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Asked and details to begin. The Iran Nuclear Deal. Thats the inside story. Welcome to inside story. Im ray suarez. Reaction is coming in from across the world to this debttive deal with iran. British Prime Minister David Cameron said that the deal will help make the world a safer place. Russian president Vladimir Putin said that the world can breathe a sigh of relief. And president barack obama said simply that iran will not develop a Nuclear Weapon. For at least the next 15 years iran will not build any new heavy water reactors. Because of this deal well be able to verify all of these commitments. This means this deal is not built on trust. Its built on verification. The five permanent members have shuttled in and out of switzerland and austria for more than a year and a half doing the hard work of nailing down technical, political and economic details. The moment the agreement was finally reached. After hours of intense negotiations into the night, the key players here said that it was a historic deal. Its opponents believe its a dangerous historic mistake. Even one of the negotiators say it was a compromised agreement. Were reaching an agreement that is not perfect for anybody, but it is what we could accomplish. And it is an important achievement for all of us. Within machines reactions in washington, d. C. And president obama making it clear if Congress Tries to block the deal hell act. So i will veto any legislation that prevents this successful implementation of this deal. Its not clear if it was coordinated in advance, but his iranian counterpart followed suit. Its the beginning of happiness, hope, a new future and the beginning of our beloved iran to accelerate its developments. The e. U. Foreign policy chief told al jazeera that the deal could go well beyond the nuclear file and contribute to positive change in the middle east. Im convinced that the political will of the iran to use this window of opportunity that we have to build trust in an in a constructive way, iran now has an anti to show constructive engagement. The last sticking points in this luxury hotel in the early hours of the morning were about lifting u. N. Sanctions. The most controversial compromises were the decisions that the arms embargo on iran could be lifted within five years and the restriction on the countrys pa his tick missiles in eight years with the u. S. Congress starting at 60 day review you can expect these will once again be the most scrutinized parts of this deal. James bays, al jazeera, vienna. Ambassador john john lynnberg is the author of negotiating with iran wrestling the ghosts of history. He was also one of the hostaging held within the early part of the revolution. Why does this have to happen . Weve weve heard suspicion. Suspicion has been the name of the game for 36 years, but thats what diplomacy is after all. Diplomacy is making i am perfect deals as the Iranian Foreign minister described this, as people of whom youre suspicious. People whom you never like or distrust. As the president said this morning you dont make these kinds of agreements with your enemies. Excuse me, with your friends. Well, the United States for a long time, and the same thing with iran towards the United States, but the two have been barely able to talk to each other through anything but clenched teeth. We saw them develop a working relationship that was professional correct, serious. Coherent. Could this be the start of something new . In a sense this is the culmination of something that center obama raised back in 2007 during his primary campaign when he said we need to talk to our adversaryies, including iran. The ironic thing was he was then criticized by then senator Hillary Clinton for making the suggestion, and we see today that she has endorsed this particular deal. This is the way politicsthis is obviously the way politics works. But he made the suggestion, and now we see eight years later this coming to fruition. In the last whatever you think of this deal you cant deny that in the last two years we are now able to talk to each other in a way we have not been able to talk to each other for 35, 36 years. Secretary kerry and secretary and minister zariff were able to describe their discussions as positive. You were one of the americans held hostage in iran for 144 days. Is this in a way coming full circle . A thought in a freeze that began with those revolutionary guards scaling the walls in the embassy in tehran . It could be. It could be. There is a lot of work ahead much us. Were now on very unfamiliar ground. We have not been on this ground now for 3536 years where were able to talk to the iranians. One of the things were going to have to do is confront the past. We cant undo the past but we can con confront them. One of the big ghosts in the room is exactly the shameful occupation in the embassy, the shame of holding me and 5253 of my colleagues for 14 months. Some in one way or another this agreement opens the possibility that we can confront this issue and some how exorcise these ghosts that haunt the relationship. One moving part of this whole agreement is lessoning the sanctions on iran. Will this help solidify the rue than any government being able to bring a little bit more Economic Development to suffering people. Clearly iran is not doing well in economics, and people are tired of that. Weve seen the celebration. There were no celebrations in the streets here, but there were in tehran. I think thats very telling. People are tired. People are tired that their passports are worthless, theyre they are he labeled as terrorists and their their countercy is worthless. Theyre tired. Thank you. If this works will depend on inspections and enforcements b will you the p 5 plus get anen obstructed look look Going Forward . And will it be enough to keep the republic from cheating . These are babies in prison. He stood in that bathroom and nobody went to help him. How many people have to get raped before somebody says whoa, we got a problem . Faultlines. What do we want . Al jazeera americas hardhitting. Today the will be arrested. Groundbreaking. Theyre firing canisters of gas at us. Emmy awardwinning, investigative series. We have to get out of here. My name is imran garda. The show is called third rail. When you watch the show, youre gonna find us being unafraid. The topics will fascinate you. Intrigue you. They take this seriously. Let me quote you. Theres a double standard. You cant be a hypocrite. Youre gonna also get a show thats really fair, bold never predictable. They should be worried about Heart Disease not terrorism. No, i wouldnt say that at all. Youll see a show that has an impact on the conventional wisdom, that goes where nobody else goes. My name is imran garda, im the host of third rail and you can find it on Al Jazeera America. Youre watching inside story. Im ray suarez. Were looking at the deal to restrain Irans Nuclear ram biggs, how it will work and how the world will know that its working. For years to come if all the parties agree what has to happen for the deal to live up to the ambitions of the negotiators inside of being a stunningly historic mistake. With me now is ambassador who represented saudi arabia, and jeannine. Youll been here on earlier shows where we talked about the prospect of the deal. Now that its here do you like what you see . I think the deal itself as described by ambassador limbert is a step forward. Two enemies are now talking. However, i think to consider it a deal in isolation, an isolation of irans activities in the region is worth the mistake. I think that it would have been better to try to link the deal because so much was at stake for iran on other issues such as the facts that there is a Washington Post Washington Post reporter in jail iran. So much was overlooked to make this deal happen. This pretty much blocks the road for a Nuclear Weapon for iran. Do you think thats right . Well, i think we need to look at it more closely to make that determination. Thats certainly what congress is going to be doing. I would note that the inspection regime is not really any time anywhere, as the president said this morning. The key new york sites as he put it, the inspectors would have to ask permission to go further. The enforcement mechanism is cumbersome and slow. You would have several weeks of delay between a dispute over compliance and a resolution of that dispute. Anyone who thinks you can snap these sanctions back is are not being real tick. These are issues that wrong is going too look over. I think they may be resolved and i recognize that no deal is perfect, and the perfect in many ways is the enemy of the good. But here weve got legitimate questions that need to be raised, and they need to be looked at. There may be wider issues attached to these negotiations to achieve other goals in the region . That may an bridge too far. I think realistically getting the iranians to wrap that in to this may have made it an impossible negotiation. I can understand that part. It does not mean that these arent serious issues. The Washington Post reporter other hostages, other issues throughout the region are very important and do need attention. But probably sticking to the agreement that has been made needs to be done. People have been watching very closely, and theyre very worried about a possible nuclear iran. Absolutely. It creates problem not just in geopolitical terms but it creates problems on the ground i just returned from the region from lebanon and kurdistan, and there is a lot of alarm, increasing alarm that the lifting of sanctions is going to, of course, in the years time allow the iranians a huge cash flow. The question is is all of this cash flow going to be forming the economy . Or is some of this cash going to the Islamic Revolutionary guards, as they could expand their activityies in lebanon hezbollah, syria, iraq. There is a lot of concern within sunni societies that by lifting sanctions this is going to empower iran politically in the region. Mr. Ambassador, we talk about the cash flow. Prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu said that it will make the First Nuclear arm terror state and theyll be able to do more mischief in the world. Well, i think thats a legitimate point to a degree. I think theyre going to have to file a good point of amount of the cash into their economy. I think there is a further issue here, and that is the economic competition that iran is going to pose saudis. Once the sanctions are lifted and they can export oil that will depress the price of oil, but more important ly iran has superior Human Capital very strong Natural Resources and i think theyll come out of the chute as an economic powerhouse that will run circles around some of the less capable competitors like the saudis. Very quickly, youre familiar, very intimately familiar with the saudis. Could this set off an arms race in the region . I dont really think so. The saudis have announced plans to build 16 nuclear reactors. I dont see how they weaponnize that without some really subterfuges with the pakistanis or others who would have to contribute to that. I dont think the pakistanis would risk world on that at this time, but i do think that the saudis are very concerned about the nuclear inequity here but i think they simply dont have the Technical Capability themselves to go that far. What do you need to know that you dont know yet to help you understand this deal better . I need to know about verification, i guess. I think thats a huge issue at this point. When inspectors will be allowed in. How much notice will be given, and i think thats a big question mark at this point. Thank you both. Author of desert diplomat inside saudi arabia following 9 11. Good to have you both. Thanks. All eyes will return to iran. What will it get out of the deal . Will it really hold off the further development of nuclear development. There is a trouble history, will the country live up to its side of the bargain . The Iran Nuclear Deal is the inside story. My heart is racing so fast. Standing at a crossroads. My parents have their plan. 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For a closer look at ryan apodaca bingeses and intentions you am janed by executive director of the center for extra teen i can and diplomatic studies and professor of politics at the university of south florida. Welcome back to the program. Lets take a look at this incentives that iran has to comply. Dont they have a lot of interest on the line in this work something. Thank you for having me on. The agreement that was Just Announced includes the most Intrusive Inspections and monitoring in the history of npt. No other country has been subject today that kind of scrutiny. Of course the incentive for iran to follow the provisions of the agreement is that the sanctions can be reimposed on iran if iran is found to violate its probation. But i dont think it is very likely that iran can do that. Because if you read the actual text of the agreement, which is over 100 pages, and i have spent hours going through it all day today, you will see that this agreement has effectively closed all pathways for iran to build a bomb. Iran has given considerable concessions, including stopping enriching uranium at 20 , a technology that a few other countries in the world has mastered. At no time in the course of the next 10 to 15 years, this agreement will will allow iran to have enough enriched uranium to build a bomb. Let me just jump in there professor. Because you say closed all pathways. Will the situation in iran be different in 10 to 15 years . Will this be a country that has seen progress from its compliance that will convince it that maybe Going Nuclear is not worth it . I certainly hope so. A lot can happen in the next 10 years. We could have a new leadership in iran. We have a young, vibrant population that wants to be reintegrated in the world economy. And most importantly, this agreement will allow iran, will allow the u. S. To begin negotiating about the issues that they have differences until a year and a half ago the two another. They have had 37 years of war between iran and the u. S. Without this Nuclear Agreement there would have been no possibility for anything between these two countries. Now there is that possibility. And once the United States and iran begin to talk about important issues, such as defeating isis, such as trying to find a political solution to the crisis in syria, then iran does not have to be as aggressive in its regional policies as it was before. Well, skeptics note that the presence of china and russia in the p5 plus one talks is cover for iran. If they break the rules, snapping back the sanctions wont be that easy in actual fact. We have very little time left. What do you make of that analysis . Well, the six countries that negotiated iran, five of them have thousands of Nuclear Weapons. They have the best scientists in the world. The document has been examined by the best scientists in the world and they believe that this agreement will not allow to build a bomb and that i think is good enough for me and is good enough for overwhelming majority of the countries of our world. Great to have you with us in tampa tonight. Executive director of the center for strategic and diplomatic studies at the university of south florida. Thanks for joining us. Ill be back in a moment with a final thought on making peace with your enemies since you dont have do it with your friend. You are watching inside story. Stay with us. Television icon norman lear we hoped we were delivering real characters. Creator of all in the family the jeffersons and good times talks race, comedy and American Culture today. Youre taking me to a place in this interview, i havent been before. I told you this would be your best interview youve done. Every tuesday night. I lived that character. Go one on one with americas movers and shakers. We will be able to see change. Gripping. Inspiring. Entertaining. Talk to al jazeera. Only on Al Jazeera America. Ali veslshi brings you a rare the people who say that iran has lied and cheated in the past are right. We still need to make an addition about what to do about today. The United States has had a hostile, frozen relationship with iran for more than 35 years since the islamic revolution. In those 35 years iran has become a powerful force in the wider middle east, supporting revolutionary groups, leverage ing its oil money and sectarian influence in iraq, syria lebanon, the palestinian territories and elsewhere. If there is any country you want to be able to talk to if youre a diplomat, its a country that you see is making trouble in the world. Having no influence in a country of 80 Million People strategically located and prepared to meddle in its neighbors affairs does not make you stronger, it makes you weaker. No deal is a bad deal, the president said no deal means greater chance of a war in the middle east. Their domestic opponents may call them week. I might agree with Winston Churchill who said its better to jaw jaw than war war. Im ray suarez. Thats the inside story. Al jazeera americas continuing coverage of the iranianamerican al jazeeras Investigative Unit has tonights exclusive report. Stories that have impact. That make a difference. That open your world. This. Is what we do. America tonight. Tuesday through friday 10 00 eastern. Only on Al Jazeera America. On Al Jazeera America technology. Its a vital part of who we are. They had some dynamic fire behavior. And what we do. Dont try this at home tech know where Technology Meets humanity. Only on Al Jazeera America announcer this is al jazeera. Welcome to the newshour live from our headquarters in doha. Coming up in the programme under pressure the Greek Parliament debates whether to pass major reforms demanded by its creditors. 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