5 minutes. Have benjamin that tell you how has promised to take the 0 off in as well. Go in and get the tower channel. He accused the network of harm and gives Rise National security and actively but dissipating in the cold weather 7th attack as us as the accusations oslander us and jeopardize the rights and safety of its employees. Wells wide media. Freedom groups are alarmed and one is why it is trying to sense that coverage or the warrant garza. But this isnt the 1st time, is why it has targeted a 0 or is genovese. So how will this bad impact is coverage and what are the why the implications for the both costs of plenty to discuss . But 1st, lets set a scene with this report so that i often is of the rent the is really Parliament Posted little paving, the way for out of 0 to be banned. The whole numbers you know, lot talking about the i declare that the bill to prevent a Foreign Broadcasting Organization for the farming the state security will enter the book of laws for a full blown on a decline. The 0 has covered israels occupation, the palestinian territory since its dealt with world competing in 1996. During the 6 months of war, garza Prime MinisterBenjamin Netanyahu has been pushing this legislation in a social media post. He called l. G 0, a. Tara channel, accusing it of participating in her mouth. The attacks on october the 7th, and promising to take it off and respond to the media network, condemned the statements as a quote dangerous ludicrous lie. It also said inflammatory slander would not tire. Its john list from continuing that bold, unprofessional coverage. Journalist writes, organizations were quick to denounce the legislation. You were extremely alone by this is yet another attempt by israel to sense of the media to limit the information coming out about the role in gaza and beyond. And we do not want to say this low and knocks it us emphasized its support for press freedom. Much of what we know about what has happened in gaza is because of reporters where they are doing their jobs, including reporters from al jazeera in 2021 is really troops destroyed the networks bureau in the gaza strip, giving stuff just one hours notice to leave a year later is ready. Snipers killed prominent john list to read a blog class while she was reporting in jeanine in the occupied westbank. As since october, the 7th. The list of out is there. A correspondence killed by israels military is growing long ago. Veronica pedroza al jazeera, the inside story. Obviously this is a story about all fundamental interest here on this as we go about with our distinguished panel, were aiming to put it in the context of global human vice, the humanitarian imperative. And you politics. In the time of war in kaiser irene han view and special russell tool on the right to freedom of opinion, an expression here indo, how is most social now the policy is actually based on citizen joiners social 55 months of will and gaza and london. Daniel levy is the president of the last middle east project and the 4 piece to go shake. Whos following up a little close to what comes with the program . I mean, let me start by asking you about your reaction to these ready low a mean to ben, a 0, a network. But im alone. Im alone because banning and international reputable media optic in the middle of the war as you say, without any obvious explanation is, is in my was censorship. Maybe censorship. Im definitely body freedom of expression. But also i think broadly of access to information. Okay, most saw you have been in goes on to the sense that how important is the 0 coverage of the people that its a 0. It has uh, you know, has been with us for many decades now. My generation and the generation before me and off to me, you know, part of our culture as a 0 is ingrained and its, its, its, it basically helps model our culture, our way of thinking how we look to the outside world. It also a mold in the vision of the outside world towards whats happening in the our, up in the muslim world and especially in the palestine. And right now while i was in gaza as a 0, it was the main outlet for the people in the sizes to listen to the news. Especially for the difference radio frequencies that have given to the civilians that didnt have access to either television or the internet. Mm hm. So right now, heating about this news definitely i think um will, will hurt the people on the ground in the us that especially those one thing to get the voices out. However, i am sure that you know, the, in genuity of the people of was together with a 0 team on the ground with all of us find a solution to tell the story how it is from because and other places around the world. Daniels a geopolitical context is very important. The lawyers not in nothing. He has nothing. Yeah. Has had to use why is a hit targeting a 0 now . Do you think or what . Well, i would suggest the full things are going on and of course future sometimes see a certain western media band in some countries, the west itself banding media for instance, from the Russian Media rapids. But whats going on right here is possible. This is paul old, the attempt to control message thought of these, ready this information, campaign, part of the fight and you dont have many media rabbits in all of a sudden no real costing 247 most west and outlets have been buried themselves in these rarely its not the 1st time these rail as tried to control the message in this way, bullying the l july media towering dollars a story years ago to make sure youre not locked law. 2 years ago, more than 100 journalist, the family of wild doctor killed. This is another step in that direction. Secondly, i think it is a regional and jo political attempt by price. Ready is the knots in yahoo to go off the top top, not just l g 0, and the, the attempt to reach to, i mean, if you remember when cuts out was blue, painted those countries talked about, ill just 0 is one of the reasons for that. And i think its nothing you always have to say, hey, ill just do is ill come in any be, i dont think that resonates really today. Ill just 0. Im the top to opposition is part of more than our consensus. Its not an outlier in that context. I also dont think we can know, but this is happening just as taught. Tar is playing a crucial mediation pro negotiations for a ceasefire at a hostage release. Nothing yall has done everything to undermine those tools. Bombing the tests out does a reconstruction building, pull the rhetorical attacks and phone cut off. He doesnt want the steel. And finally, i would say, all of his domestic political management is part of speeding the extreme is of these route. He has looked for distractions from the world, but hes not going well. Beach right in public tend to not be shown. The images coming out of gauze, a witness came to a vote. Imagery nested . Only 10 members voted against no design. This member of connected voted against only the 10 members from the parties representing the palestinian arab citizens visual, bought the human rights community, the association for civil rights in the ground and said, this is dangerous. This is an attack on freedom of speech and expression. The way this little photos of pads of what alta 0 has been targeted with bites is to change families killed. Now its the next step, which is basically trying to find is as is, what does the International Law say about this . Well, what is very odd that jobs are civilians under International Humanitarian, new, and c. Gotcha. The number of john is set up in the previous read thoughts, conflicts in the last 30 years. It indicates the use of disproportionate this minute attacks, which of course ben kathy. Uh well, i think weve also seen some evidence some suspicion that some journalist, particularly i just happened. Ready about target civilians in the middle school and then now comes an escalation. Im just the, is the floss shutting down by just the euro independent. Me yeah, now loops the only one operating i international. Ill click operating on the web browser. So under International Law, be seen by nations, attention body, monte war crimes, a, b, c by Nations Office international, the freedom of expression, which does not. Yeah. People still have the right to access information that is gone. So i see it from not just on did you have a back from the human rights perspective, perspective, a slide, think that signing of democratic body principles. I know it just read this. One is the 1st thing to do when they want to travel far, shut down to meet and shut down independence each month. So you and your neighbors and the people you know and gaza, you what the watching the media coverage. We have to remind all of you the just that if you media out is operating in gaza, how closure was that coverage in shaping you perception to what is happening on the ground and how significant it is beyond. And its extremely important. I mean, does it gave a voice to those that didnt have a voice . You will have to also remember that inside is what are those a very big go out of the palestinian population who did not leave their homes and 19481967 who rely on a 0 and who we have many relatives data that need a da 0 to ensure that their stories are being told. The people in the was, like i said, all the time they are on the radio was listening to the 0 and the coverage from inside that occupied lands. And what is happening in the west bank and in the visor, i just see it uh is, is extremely, extremely important. Again, when it the cat, when it comes to shifting the mentality of not only the inside world in the most them what out of the world but internationally, i think, and frank stated in the top 12. 00 or 3 tv broadcast stations. So right now the most heated place, the place that is changing history to now is the occupied land in palestine and attempting another time to try and bind a da 0. There is just another to another facade. Its another. Another way to show that is the democratic nation of design and state. And its, its gets case for them supporting human rights. And freedom of speech again is another lie. And its going to continue to work against them as they try to propagate their lives towards the world. Danita youve spoken about the key for reasons why. And thats and yeah, who is taking that path. Now, when you say that you are the only democracy in that part of the world, and then you decide to shut down and use out as when you know that it is absolutely going to be sort of difficult for you to build bridges with allies globally about this move is a, hey, confident or emboldened in a way or another that the International Reaction is going to be new to business as usual. Move forward. Nobody gas. Thats the key thing, isnt it . Because without that western american guaranteed impunity not only this measure against against out just sarah. But, you know, lets go broad. Could israel be doing what its doing to also studies 1000 plus deaths, perhaps many, many more. A 1213000 children, the devastation, the use of salvation as a weapon. The for the poll, committing of the crime of genocide, ignoring because of the International Court of justice on top of the cost of decades of belligerent, illegal occupation, and a regime now documented and discussed. So that would be in the human rights, but by states themselves in the course, as the origin of apartheid could any of that, let alone this late just measure be possible if it were not for the absolute absence of accountability guaranteed by the us. And i think when nothing yall took this measure, he did so confident that the state Department Spokesman may appear in front of the podium and say, well, we worry about democracy in the role of the media, but they will not do anything weve just heard yet more of transfers from the us to drop on. And this is a crucial point. How should we so months of demonstrations in israel prior to october, sense of people saying save is re democracy. The judicial reforms was nothing. Yahoo smokes expected to be a color issue. Were doing, but they never talked about the occupation. They never talked about this apart type regime and here we have no one zine is member of congested raise that hand against this bill, which is an assault of freedom of expression, freedom of the media and democracy. So it how unfortunate the democracy does not extend to the protection of palestinian rights reign 9 to jo, noticed, killed in the war and gaza. The international jo. Notice bobs from entering does have they have to be embedded with these ready on the if they want to, to cover the story of the wave of a tax to the price of scrutinize ation, sanctions, flats, intimidation discrimination against the jo. Notice yet you will see over the International Community of the u. N. M, the americans in particular, we botanic nothing. You know enough is enough. Its not happening. But i cannot say what to post the United States or any other member state. Weve had understand it from yahoo, but i can tell you from the human rights and she does. Im an independent x and it becomes a by the un. We would be made every laws, noise that we believe what is happening is not only the deprivation and violation of the right to freedom of expression off the inhabitants of god. But also these ready people, these really people have a right to access diverse sources of information that is part of freedom of expression and mr. Yep, at yahoo domestic are based starting. And that is how or talk or see enters a democratic and that is extremely dangerous. I believe is read as well as for the off any impact. Very important thing. Can i Show Community as a Member States like the us, where as you know, big of freedom is, is a big issue of Companies Like that must stand behind it. Because otherwise, we will know what the bbc would be expelled from another public situation. So we have to be extremely careful. Thats an International Community. What president s asset here in these red most. So youre a back to the citizen genovese give us an idea about the challenges that joe noticed was go through on a daily basis just to cover a simple story for the viewers domestically and globally. I guess while i was in gaza, invoiced a shift and loss of hospital, like you said, im out im, im a, i became a citizen during the list reporting the news on different tv networks, radio stations, doing a lot of social media content on different platforms. And 9 to act as with dozens of journalists and social media influence thats in the old world kink in the most difficult and most dangerous areas. I think in the world right now. And there is no safe place in that as a and if you are holding in your hand, any piece of technology, even if its a switched off, its can be tracked then you can be taught to get to it. So you have to understand that these journalists have families have homes there, and many have lost their edits of their loved ones folder. Well, theyve lost their residence. They are living in tents. Theyre living on the pavement, step living inside. When the refugee schools and hospitals, in order to try to get an Internet Connection to get the media out, they have to have e sims and they have to go through the india to dangerous areas on different elevations and different remote locations in order to access the signal and try to get the message out the video, the voice message, the text out to the world in, in, in, in, in a very dangerous situation. Many people, you know, every day whenever we met in the morning, we never knew if you would, we would see each other a tonight, similar to whats happened, for example, with the fun of what the, the door who we met in the morning and we, we, we prayed our, our, our farewells, prayers on him. Later during the evening. Similar to many other journalists who lost family members on one day and the next day they came back and said, look, whatever they still with us, were going to continue. This is our strive, our struggle towards freedom, not only for the 1st time, but for the whole the world. A danny. What, what is that to the hood trying to achieve . Its no secret. He doesnt want to have any peace deal. Find a hit in though. Huh. Hes a big fan of having the announcements made elsewhere. Number 2 has been extremely critical of the cuts out is over the last few months. And you get to this critical phase of the negotiations to solve as it did above the hostages. And yet another warning to shut down, ill just see that which could compromise the safety of its employees. Is it a fairly phase message to look outside is once again, but ultimately it has to be my way or no way i think is know that single you fail, then we have a very consistent is right . Yeah. So its not just against cut off against anyone who tries to be uh, that 88 a contrarian voice to what hes rileys doing you see is really actions against south africa. She is right of the actions against all those type that styles. You see the pets, give us the news, relevant supporters, including some states from, from the region you all read, trying to cancel the arrangements with the american universities who benefit greatly from the campuses they have in topped out like texas a and then and so i think i it keeps possibly the to send that message. I dont think that message will be effective or successful. I be dropped, always committed to this mediation after the discontinue, despite the all the publications on these ready side. And by the way, be use ready. Most sachi continues to go back and for a meeting with the country, but american addiction mediators. And i imagine that well continue costs all by the way, is back with the families of hostages in cut our emissions in different capitals in the world. Had some members of the families in dall, so i think thats all well continue. Its happened despite this. I think yes the the b is raised may help, but the message will not come out as much as a consequence of this action. I think we just heard from, from very powerful testimony of from months. Ready i think the truth will out whether that citizen journalism, whether thats the efforts that you without just 0 will im sure maintain in terms of getting the story out. So i think when it comes to trying to hide from the world of what is going on, that is not going to happen either. So i think these have to be blunt is but as part of a quite sophisticated and transparent game, domestically and internationally that nothing yahoo is playing hes playing because he can get away with it. I realize the salt of the ball and because of these rather government has passed more time regulations and how did not been for the combined just raise. Sometimes lonely. John noticed operating on the ground, some of them holding the camera for the 1st time in the line said hes not being for that cuz we would never have been able to see that. But then the less bombardment of the massive destruction in gaza. Do you have any concerns that what we seeing is just the same path or which is basically the right to deny the world from knowing exactly what is happening to the people in gaza . To yes, you might try to deny it, but i dont think we succeed. You know, im working right now on, on a, on a report on journalism index side and from doc ive seen around the world to get the same story. Journalist, we stand up, they will continue to the work, even citizen journalists, we replace them if uh, independent journalists are thrown out. So from the back fence work, we continue on the ground. The big question for me on my side, what accountability to that before you switch and there, i think we can actually community has a duty to ensure that these kinds of creatures International Humanitarian know mean can actually human rights. People are indeed, and its right, its in because the account for those most. So is this something that is likely to do to the journalist operating and goes up from continuing the work of the see the how sort of progress ongoing not the toilet. Luckily, fuel them to even work further and the more strong and fed them on that emission. I actually feel bad for the, for the is really during this because im seeing that uh, theyre there to come to your life now as, as values are being demolished. And slowly, you know that intentionally crumbling and, and honestly uh, once slowly the values that your country supposedly built on stop to advocate then, then you need to be scared about the future for you and the generations to come. So i think that the boys in the isnt, isnt the course of the, is there any of these and these fairly Public Opinion as well, and is there any during that as im do they want to see this, the beginning of the company of so called democracy and thats the slight daniel, if nothing. Yeah. Who decides to go ahead and band as a 0 . Would it be a to any point . Unprecedented move . No, its, its raw, the old. A fat really. You kill the messenger. Thats the attempt to you. Uh, quite literally a devastatingly, in the case of sherry, you know, the family of while and many offers. Uh, but uh, the buyers legal move via visa be out to 0. Uh, but no, the message will come out. And if it is rel doesnt want this kind of coverage, theres a match better, paul. Then not passing these laws as role could cease to violate International Law could cease to commit crimes in garza could cease to dehumanize entry palestinians in this way. And thats all to be going to be the way out of this month. So it makes a really important point. The walk, this is also possible is a phenomenon insight as well with the media inside israel has been sent sold, but it is also self sensitive. During these past 6 months to an unprecedented degree, and if anyone who understands the language spend some time watching his writing media, it is a horror show of quite often of insight into genocide. The International Court of justice is called out. I really, if you look up the last of the 2017, the hes very involved to expel i 0 june of this, 2022 shooting a. Balkan has give the strike cause the 5 minute way. And i do have to about 20 the 5th general realize that the son on an and hums and another and the camera man, what killed is this a case for the icbc . And secondly, i didnt think they done. I understand. I think the National Committee is looking into uh, getting such on this as puppets investigation. So i can be a good fare if there was ticket score. But i also think i just want to pick up on the point is that some others have made and that is what is due to media inside is read government upon them and the process to go without much fault of its own legal system and its own value from ministers who decides to bad . Ill click without much reason for political geopolitical purposes. Dont forget to put money relations. How much will they think next about what can be done inside these red encrypted systems when it arrives . When does our sports itself . So this is actually a very, its a beginning for very warring stage and its random, so political nice on no need, no need to remind our view as globally that its the media that really makes massive impacts and difference in the spots of the world that this explains why they have to stick around and continue doing what theyve been doing real hard on social month 1011. I really appreciate your insights and looking forward to talking to you in the near future. Thank you. 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