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Chinese, my friends, the American Dream is was there risk and the sacrifice on out to 0 . I have Steve Clements and i have a question. Is really forces are literally firing in the groups of starving palestinians trying to get food aid in gaza. When does the by the administration say enough is enough. Lets get to the bottom line. The israels one guy has gone far beyond killing 30000 palestinians, and injuring more than 70000. Now is realized preventing basic food aid from reaching civilians who are facing starvation. Us present, joe biden, and his administration are still fully behind. Is real, refusing to call for permanency expire and us costs for more humanitarian a have just fallen on deaf ears. There are signs that bidens policies will cost him votes during this election season. But will that force him to change course and in support for israels war . Today, were talking with matt dust, former Foreign Policy advisor to senator Bernie Sanders and currently executive Vice President at the center for International Policy mat. Thank you so much for joining us today. Were looking at, at the breakdown of a, i mean honestly, people are desperate to survive. Desperate for food, starving surrounding a trucks and being shot on. I just want to ask you is this moment going to create any change in us policy . I would hope it would, but at this point, i dont know how many debts its going to take for the President Biden to shift policy. You are right. Not only are as rarely, these really is a real is really government not owning this. You have is really minutes to are appraising the actions of Israeli Soldiers in shooting these starving and desperate palestinians. And as you said, these people are desperate. They are not getting anything close to sufficient humanitarian aid, and that is because israel has a policy of preventing humanitarian aid from getting to them. The administration recognizes that. In fact, just the other day, there was a story about how the administration is considering error dropping into gaza. That, lets think about this firm in the United States would consider air dropping aid into gauze because the, the, the military that it is arming and supporting unconditionally is preventing that aid from getting into gaza in violation of us law by the way. And thats important to acknowledge to us law as prohibits militaries that receive us supplied weapons from preventing humanitarian aid of getting it prevents, you know, prohibits them from using those weapons and ways that violate International Humanitarian law. That is clearly what is happening here. And yet, after weeks and months of evidence that basically war crimes are being committed, clear violations of International Humanitarian law. The by the ministration refuses to shift course. Months ago, we did a report that looked at sen, Bernie Sanders letter to dear colleagues saying that the United States could not be complicit in what was an unfolding with what he called the in discriminant killing. I can tell us the indians a either way to use that word himself several times. Right. And i, joe biden has use that thing. So im just wondering what is happening politically in this town inside washington, dc and around the nation in terms of respond you that did Bernie Sanders get any traction at all . Have others that have tried to shine a spotlight on whats in folding right now . I understand there was a whole ripping october 7th attack. Were watching a nightmare, a horse situation now and response. And Bernie Sanders has said, we are now complicit in this. What are your thoughts that hes absolutely right. No surprise. I agree with my former boss. We are absolutely complicit in this. We are complicit in the situation that led up to october set and the situation of continuing cj and block 8 on gaza and occupation expulsion and daily humiliation for palestinians and the rest of the occupied territories. And as you said, just the, the atrocities of october 7th, are indefensible. Israel has every right to respond in defendants. People as a senator sanders has acknowledged. But what we have been witnessing for the past almost 5 months and or continue to witness today is not self defense. This is something else. Um, so again, your question, what will it take about why it, why, what will it take to really see an upsurge in washington . Again, that is a thats, thats a tough question to answer because we are definitely seeing energy on the streets protests, especially from young, progressive democrats and beyond. Weve seen an increasing number of members of congress, not nearly enough, but some, you know, raising these questions and, and raising the pressure. But as you know, the conversation about israel in washington, you know, kind of occurs in this weird, never, never land where the kind of conditions um that we impose on other partners and recipients of that of us aid simply never apply to israel. And the other piece of this too is when you have a democratic president. Unfortunately, the case is, democrats are much less inclined to criticize what we are. We are seeing is clearly a failed and, and any 2 main. And i would argue, immoral policy. Let me ask you about this, and this is an equation. I dont fully understand folks. On one hand, the United States is blocking all efforts to impose any International Sanctions in israel. For this, it has said that it is working at the same time to get food, support a, i mean, a secretary of state anthony blinking and an actual revise and jake sullivan. Talk about how hard theyre working to to overcome is really resistance course there which which they are very public about to get aid in. And yet we are still as i understand it, providing without condition bombs and munitions and even seeking more support for israel. But in the eyes of the world, whether youre in a developed country or a developing country, what does that equation look like . Well, it looks incoherent because it is incoherent. President buying clearly believes that the way that us is Real Relationships and work. And hes believe this for a long time, is that if we have differences of opinion, we express those privately and conversations and but publicly its basically shoulder to shoulder lock, step, support, unconditional support. And you know, obviously hes the president. He gets to make those decisions. But my response to that is how is that going . That does not appear to be going very well. And i think in the eyes of the world, the United States just looks feckless and weak. This is a partner state that is enormously reliant on us support, diplomatically, politically intelligence, militarily and the president. The United States has simply taken the tools of leverage off the table and told his and his secretary of state and others to work without those tools of the United States could cut off a. We could diminish a, we could slow aid, we could stop the towing resolutions and then you went, theres a whole range of things and escalating menu of options that we had if we decided to apply real pressure, which we should have been doing long before. Now, to ask this question carefully, if President Biden fails to use his leverage to constrain is really Prime Minister netanyahu his choices in this war to get the ceasefire to get a to people in need. And it created a monster ball difference in the, on the ground circumstances, given what we just saw in michigan with a 100000. 00 people, basically voting uncommitted within the democratic primary and not voting for President Biden in their own party. Do you think joe biden will lose this election coming up . And again, i will answer carefully as you asked it carefully and no one never, it should overstate the impact of any Foreign Policy issue, i think on us selections. Um, but i think whats important to note is that for many democrats, particularly young democrats, the issue of israel palestine this warrant, because that is not just a Foreign Policy issue, isnt it is an issue of, of social and racial justice. And thats why it resonates as strong one of the reasons why it resonates as strongly as it does. Um, because i think that a 100000 votes for uncommitted is clearly a message. I think it was actually an impressive effort given how, what a short timeframe that had to get up and going and know there are similar efforts in other primary states. And i think its important to acknowledge that these are from democrats who understand the stakes. Theyre using a tool to send the message in a way that is not intended to undermine bidens re election, but simply to send the message which is entirely appropriate that they are this, this policy is outrageous. And i do think that if president buying doesnt shift this policy, and i dont need a shift in messaging, he does not have a messaging problem. He has a policy problem. And i think if were talking about an election that was already going to be very close before all of this, were talking about an election that will very likely come down to a few 100000. 00 boats in a few key states. This could make the difference. Not i want to ask you about comments that the president made. They were made regarding the talks between is real, him not and hamas, which the United States egypt and cut our, our mediating wits. Here with the president said, my not security adviser tells me that were close because its not done yet. My hope is why next monday do you think those are solvent comments or as the president disconnected from reality . You know, i mean, well its good to hope for things. I hope well get a ceasefire. Money to it doesnt look like were were, were trying much closer. But the bottom i listen, they should continue their efforts to get that agreement to release the hostages. But there, you know, the decisions by israel and hung us, you know, the United States should make its own decisions. We are in fact obligated under the existing us law to make decisions with regard to our support of israel in this war, unrelated to whether is related and whether is real and having us come to that cease fire giving which i very much hope they do. I want to show you a quote from nikki haley in this quote. She writes, they were warned that the sky would fall if we moved our embassy, they warranted that our allies would turn against us. Americans would be killed and war in the middle east would quickly ignite. Guess what . Thats just about an embassy and i dont want to mislead people to think that that is the only issue. But when you come to the Abraham Accords and one of the notion of the area and chords is you can do a lot of deal making in the middle east and ignore the palestinian issue youve written. Youve written yourself about this recently about the president s own view that somehow you could do a deal with the saudis, between the saudi and his release, and the part of an abraham a cord like process maybe get some sort of palestinian state pathway and people are tired of were pathway, but then 3rd, use this new arrangement to take on iran, in iran, to interest in the region. Im just interested in how you see this because when you talk about us actions and decisions, how badly aligned is the us frame with a reality and what its trying to do in the middle east with the realities on the ground in the region. You know, i think, yes, thats a great question. I think haleys comments just shows the blindness that has guided, not just republican policy, but us policy for a long time. And i think by no, unfortunately bought into this as well on the initially, you know, kept the Abraham Accords at arms length. But after a few months basically decided to embrace it. And part of that logic is, as you said, that the palestinians can just be shot that aside from a few crumbs here and there to keep them quiet. But we saw the moving of the embassy and other stuff to the cup and ministration took, which are consistent with that approach, which is just as real guess whatever it wants. And the palestinians get a cage. That is what led us to october 7th. Again, thats not to absolve a mouse for their choices, obviously their, their, their choices to commit that atrocity or are, you know, that the key decision there, but it did not begin. History did not be did on october 7. Now getting to binds approach, i mean, as i wrote, its important to understand that of the ministration their projects in the middle east right now is guided as is most of their Foreign Policy by one thing, strategic competition with china. And they see, you know, this is real normalization deal, which in my view as ive written is, is mainly a us, sorry, security deal. Um thats kind of wrapped in a, in a candy coating of, of piece with israel in order to sell it to democrats. But thats the main function of that is to box china out of the middle leaves. Theres also a component of confronting your own. But as, as you know, i mean iran and saudi arabia and other countries in, in, in, in, in the region have been reaching slowly step by step towards some form of the top. Which is good because ultimately iran is going to be part of that region just as israel is. Um. So any kind of arrangement that seeks to kind of box the run out. I think its not going to be sustainable either. Thats not to downplay me. Rons horrible behavior in the region or to its own people. I mean we, we, we clearly need to take steps to confront that as we have been doing for a long time. I think we should take a different approach. I know that we were both supporters of the wrong Nuclear Agreement and regret trumps withdrawal from it and, and bidens failure to get back into it. But i do think its important to understand the kind of the key aim of their middle east policy, which once again is china. Im just interested in kind of the message and brand of United States when it comes to democracy. As you look at what you see on folding right now in israel, guys are what you see unfolding. And the region does america have standing any longer . You know, you know, taking what you just said about this being a Saudi Security deal. You know, in terms of its intent and purpose right now, how much does america lose standing in the region given that approach . I think we induce enormous that mean the president bind is fond of this saying we should lead by the power of our example. Not the example of our power, and i say on the, in that standard we are family, the example we are setting by continuing to unconditionally back this, this catastrophe in gaza is sending a horrible message. And i would add, especially in the wake of the russian war on ukraine as ive written. I, i just, i think the, you know, the by the ministrations approach to ukraine has been very good. Its been a, you know, defective. Its been moral. Its been principled in helping ukraine defend itself against an illegal the invasion. Um, i think all of the principal principals daylight laid out this entire argument they made in support of the ukraine policy. They have a slightly burned out to the ground. By the way, theyve approached israels assault on garza again, im not going to pretend these 2 things are exactly the same. They are not. But if we are talking about a set of principles that were talking about International Law and the need to observe it, they, theres such a stark double standard being applied to these 2 conflicts and the entire world can see it and they have acknowledged it may ask you a question about the american political scene. You know, my best efforts to describe whats happening in the United States is that were seeing whats always been in america. Isnt you know, slightly isolationist wing that really does not see being engaged in the world as being in the interest of United States at all. And this populist merger with this notion that we can withdraw and that be when you look at the chaos that youre seeing and israel gaza, the weakness of the president of United States in this case. Or you see the rejection of the notion that ukraine is relevant in any way, or the idea that maybe we just leave nato. How worried are you about a real isolationism taking hold in this white house and in this country as we see brewing right now, but with the 2024 elections and after right. Essentially, i dont know if i would care to revise it as a selection, as somebody would characterize it is just kind of a unilateralism. You know, trump is, i know hes labeled a nice relation as a lot, but i dont think he is. He just has a very different approach of his, of the trip to how the us should behave in the world, which is in america completely unbound by any rules in america. The behaviors of essentially as an imperial power that seeks tribute demands tribute from the rest of the world by virtue of our power, i dont, thats not isolation is thats just i can just imperial, but i see what youre saying. I mean, a lot of americans have very serious questions about this, this kind of set of multilateral organizations and partnerships and treaties and alliances the United States helped build and in which we have imbedded our interest they have questions about is that serving our interest is that serving my family, my community, and i do think one of the lessons coming out of trump victory, and i think some people around President Biden, to their credit understand this is that we need to do a better job of helping the engage with these questions on the part of the American People to explain why some of these Foreign Policy choices are in their interest that actually help their families help their communities. But we have to actually make a credible argument that its doing the i dont think we can make that argument about garza us support for this war is not making american c for it is making americans less save by virtue of just in vastly diminishing our power in our credibility and our ability to say to stand up and speak credibly for a set of very important principles. We just see a case where the Palestinian Authority of, uh, cabinet has been disassembled, has been, has been a dissolved i guess my question on that is, do you see us influence on the palace any inside a particular with the p a is leading any direction that will get us to a different equilibrium. And this relationship many palestinians looked at the p a is essentially the guarantor for is really security and is really security services. Im just interested in that move, which has been welcomed by the United States while saying no, i should say changing government in the as rarely cabinet. Yeah. You know, i will say, i mean, as you said, i mean that is how unfortunately United States has treated the p a as essentially a sub contractor of these really occupation. Theyre the priority. Theyre being there to deliver security, not for palestinians, but for his release. And i think changing that approach is absolutely necessary if were going to move in a better direction, i would say about the dissolution of the policy and the government. That isnt it, its a step towards recall if it is a step toward re constituting kind of the Palestinian National movements or creating a kind of unified consensus based palestinian voice that tend to go straight the eventually with israel. Thats good because that is absolutely necessary to, to get to, to, to a resolution is to have a palestinian leadership that can make credible commitments in around the negotiated table, which we simply do not have right now. And again, that part of the netanyahus strategy was to make sure the palestinian state divided gaza ruled internally by a mass and thought to with its you know, the areas that they have some control of in, in the west bank. So ending that division and supporting the reconstitution of a palestinian natural voice and leadership is absolutely necessary, certainly best to something the United States cannot do, but we can get out of the way we can support them as they do it. But importantly, we have to recognize that a credible palestinian leadership supported by the Palestinian People is going to include people that we do not like just as the as really leadership includes people. We do not like it. Im not just talking about been given here in small traits, even though we very much do not like them. There are others who have been parts of israeli governments in the past. Um, you know, whos before, you know, legitimate constituencies among israel. So we just need to prepare, we just need to prepare to accept a palestinian leadership and you know, with people that were not crazy about, we need to respect palestinian politics enough and take power has been in politics seriously enough to acknowledge that they get to pick the people who speak for the so let me just ask you, uh finally, what are palestinians being asked to do at this moment . Are they being asked to accept the are unacceptable and to remain in, in a, in a place where there are no buildings infrastructure. I mean, if youre in the west bank, youve got killings, harassment going on there. Youve got basically a destroyed and flattened infrastructure and most of gaza. You know, were walking march 10th ramadan begins. Im just interested in what palestinians are being asked to do in this moment. I mean, in gaza there being, as we can see, what theyre being asked. I mean, most of garza has been turned into the moon and they are living in tens, crowded in what was already one of the most densely populated regions of the world. So i, i just, i like the words to describe what theyre being asked to endure in gaza. And lets understand. Garza was in the midst of an enormous humanitarian crisis before october 7th. And as you described in the west bank, its, its, its a daily grind to humiliation of check points and harassment by settlers whenever palestinians, you know, are able to leave, you know, theyre just Population Centers and, and, and villages is really military has total control and then goes anywhere it wants in the entire west bank was complete, impunity and this has been the situation for years and decades. Okay. And this i just want to say has been part of how masses recruit recruiting program. This has helped to make the argument to many palestinians, and this is an enormous strategy tragedy. But the way to achieve your goal is the way to achieve freedom. The way to take control is to use violence. This is a lesson, but the United States has helped to teach because the problem is that was made to the palestinians years ago was embrace diplomacy, stop violence, and diplomacy and negotiation is the way to achieve your liberation. And we have helped to show them that that is not true, and we need to change that equation very quickly. If were going to get out of this on that task, executive Vice President of the center for International Policy. Thank you so much for sharing your candid use with us today. Thank you. And so whats the bottom line . Israels deadly encouragement. The guy that triggered by a surprise attack that knock this really sideways on october 7th, has turned into one of the worlds worst nightmares. God says, Living Conditions have disintegrated. No schools, no health care, no housing, nothing on day one is real, said it wouldnt allow food medicine, water, or fuel into gaza. So us President Joe Biden and his team just cant being surprised that people are starving and dying. 5 months later, yet they still refused to play hardball with his. Well still send munitions and bombs that killed palestinians and still insist that theyre doing our best as the white house spokesperson says to encourage israel to change course. But with each passing day, palestine punctuates the weakness of the United States visa v. Its own allied and reinforces the idea that this is not some small regional mass, but rather a less than the other countries that americans somehow diminish now. And then if it wont stand with people for under physical and moral siege now, its hard to believe that it would do so any time in the future. And thats the bottom line. The one, somebody should somebody else did. Most people expect the police to arrive with him, test on that person and take them to jail and then stand your ground. You can shoot somebody in getting their truck and drive away. Is that unusual . That is very unusual because were talking about the crime of murder, but its a very clear in the statute. They dont want anybody arrested. Thats why its a get out of jail free card. Its time you pull the trigger. What do you think the shooter was interested . Because of the law . I feel like shes hiding behind the stand your ground. This is the 1st theres a disconnect between what we are witnessing on social media versus what were seeing on mainstream in the listening post covers have been used as co writes organizations filed a civil suit against and that states saying supply is around with via parts for f 3055. 00 projects makes the netherlands complicit. Impossible war crimes and gaza. 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