Friday. Let me move out of the frame so you can actually see for yourself these protest as a, standing outside be very comfortable chunk things slogan in favor of palestinians in favor of gaza against israel. And also urging the government to do more there being firing speeches here all by various leaders who been talking about how the is nomic world needs to come together. How muslims across the world need to show solidarity, not just with words and protests, but an action as well. And that is the scene that weve seen throughout friday across most the majority countries. Very often, friday prayers for testers came out. I showed solidarity and there was sermons. Very moms are saying that it is not just protesting industry that they need to do, but they need to do it with their actions as well. Do a white glove is made the products to come out and demand auction from the governments as well. As you can see, it is past midnight here in assembled, and the number of people and the jobs that have been, weve been hearing it continue to grow. 11 other rileys across the middle east and so forth. If the palestinians in yemen thousands founded in the Northern City of marines, im in the council on the condemning as well as for on guns. I am the cunning, a sort of of the in jordan crowds of right in the capital, amman, many waived palestinian flags. And denounced as well as a tax also write about it for me. Money inside. Theres lot small on our website pouches. Era dot com coming up next is to to out. Is there a way you can get organize to slides . Stay with us. The too often of kind of style and its betrayed through the prism of war. But there were many of the kind of stuff thanks for the braves. Individuals who risk their lives to protect it from destruction. An extraordinary film archives funding for decades reviews the forgotten food of the countrys modern history. The forbidden real part one, the birth of ive done cinema on just the the in may 2021 and the often miles of israels, and 11 day palm bob, went to garza the killed 250 promising ins the u. N. Independent, International Commission of inquiry only occupied pulse the entire treat, and israel was established its monday to investigate full of extra violations of International Humanitarian law. Established the underlying cause of recurring tensions document and verify the evidence and identifying those responses. The woman leading the inquiry is formally un high commissioner for human rights navy play weeks before her mouse carried out. Its on top of the several surprise offensive, little southern israel and israel launched a Major Military operation of goza delay release to report. It says the Commission Finds the increasing the militarized Law Enforcement operations of israel, and repeated the tax by israel and casa range, maintaining its on law for 56 years will keep patient with the latest escalation now, and its the week now, they feel like talks to alger 0, the not very polite. Thank you for talking to out to 0. Lets just stop at the beginning about what your commission is. You are a distinguished judge, but this isnt the cool. This isnt an investigating mechanism. My understanding. It was because it was set up in 2021 immediately off to the false cause of war. I assume the Human Rights Council who set this up wanted to avoid another cause of war. And yet we now have a 5th cause of war, which is bloody as in any of the conflicts in the past. Mm hm. Yeah, thank you very much for this opportunity. James. Thank you for your program. Um, this is a, uh, its obviously not a court of law, but all commissions do follow some of the precepts offered judicial and quality. And that is respecting independence, impartiality carefully weighing the evidence so its much more secure then, you know, press statements issued by institutions and so on. So thats the beauty of commission, of inquiry. They do investigate the produce reports, they make recommendations, which is what we have done. Now in this particular commission has a very wide mandate, especially its not time boned. Its almost permanent. And thats one of the reasons why some states, including the United States and europe, did not support the establishment of this commission. That it doesnt have an end date to which i have said, well, the occupation doesnt have an end date either. And you tend to support that occupation and the other aspects of the mandate of that we have an investigative mandate. We can identify suspects, key perpetrators, work with judicial institutions such as the International Court of justice. And the, as i said already to make recommendations to look into the root causes of the conflict. Thats a very important mandate that has not been done before. Above all, or we havent territorial jurisdiction that does not apply to any other commission. And that is we have jurisdiction over is inside is the palestine, the west bank and gaza. So thats a wide jurisdiction and thats why we can cover new and emerging issues such as events. Thats all happening now. Yes i, i agree with you that clearly palestine that moved for this commission had in mind that once and for all they could attend to crucial questions such as the observance of international law. The end of the occupation and other matches that are crucial to in the conflict to achieve peace in, in the middle east. And i imagine that thats why they say they wanted this commission of inquiry. And youre quite right then if we were all taken completely, i know as by this a tech that was committed by him. Us now you will, they just report doesnt cover the events off to october the 7th, but you obviously have an inquiry. Your investigation can look at those and future reports. Let me ask you about those. What. How much did 1st on, on that date, all those will crimes . Yeah, firstly, so let me say ill cut into the port was actually completed in august. These are the you and rules. It was filed here, but immediately after october, 7th, when the this a tech code a must as admitted their responsibility. Thats why we acknowledge them as the responsible party we because of fi extended mandate, immediately dropped our own planned program of work and jumped into investigating this. By the 3rd day, we issued a press statement condemning this a tech because its home to civilians and violated international law. And we called for submissions. We immediately started collecting, gathering evidence to fulfill our mandate of achieving justice and accountability. Working with justice institutions such as the International Criminal court, from the evidence that we get, that its clear to us that the war crimes being committed and now with the, the, is the way, the action or the action to the mazda attacked. We really find from the effects that will kind of being committed, have been committed by almost all being committed by israel. And thats because of the indiscriminate attack and the killings an injuries to civilians including children. Obviously, since then, weve seen a massive bone bob. And by israel to you, in your view, consider this is legitimate, self defense, or is this collective punishment. And in fact, brutal revenge from the evidence. Weve already got that. We are concluding that this is indiscriminate attacks against civilians, very excessive and does not conform with the requisites of international law, which is disproportionality and with the focus on protection of civilians. And therefore, we thought this cannot be created with self defense. Its, its a monster collective punishment, and we know the facts of those who dying overhaul for those who died. A women and children safe as ive loved the statistics of you know, when we not show off any of this when we will establish these statistics later. But without verification, i am horrified at the finger of just 2 of the children who have been killed. How can children ever be deemed to be a to that so much so that is there and has to defend itself against these babies and children on the 6th day of the war, israel itself, they said they dropped 6000 palms. Thats the same number used by the us in that battle against ice. So in rock, and in 6 days they use the mobile homes than the us used in afghanistan in a single year. What do you make of that . I think this shift shuck on a fuss into rapid reaction. Im right. You at the u. N. As i speak to you, james, and im appalled at the lack of a quick decisions in the deliberations that are going on in the Security Council and the General Assembly. These are the facts that they should, that should be before that immediately demand what we have already called fully now press statement, which is a cessation of hostilities, not just a humanitarian pause. I think i believe thats the subject matter of the discussion, but a ceasefire and why we called for that is because civilians are at risk International Humanitarian low and the geneva conventions are being violated very seriously in front of all eyes as well. Let me ask you about some of the young man, a lot of these. Let me, let me ask you about some of the other things that is around the done and whether you think these are violations of international. Theyve cut off the water and the electricity, theyve only allowed limited aid supplies and then not allowing fuel. And now fuel is needed, as you know, to pump the water and for the celebration of the water. But also for the hospitals of the dialysis machines. Bentonite has they now you will have to be shut off. And theres also a very disturbing report. The perhaps incubators, which of keeping more than a 100, a new babies alive, may also have to be shut. All of these will crimes. These are welcomes the clear violations of international law. And yeah, let me take my cap off as the chaff the this commission and to speak as my lengthy judicial experience. Both on the one to the United Nations type in the federal on the and the International Criminal court. So i know the way, judges way, the evidence that these facts will clearly amount to, very serious for okay, its have to stop immediately. The other thing that israel has done is all the people in garza city and the north to move to the south of the gaza strip. Initially, they gave people only 24 hours. Soon as you know, that population includes elderly people, people with children, people who are in hospital cannot move. Thats sort of old uh that sort of instruction from israel does that count is false deportation in your view. Weve all the thoughts. So were looking at that, you know, we report to these false deportations posted removal, dislocation of palestinians in the report that we had completed in august. And now we see the situation much worse when people in the north of gaza, a being audit to move out of that. I mean to move where nobody wants to receive them. But the worst situation is weve already heard from some families that when they moved from the north to the south of garza, they were bombed. One person said his entire family has been killed. So with a great anxiety, weve now adopted an attitude of expedite st. Oh, investigation as fast as we can. And these latest events, as i said, the not seeing this current report, but the current report shows the events of the last year before what weve seen in the last few weeks. And one of the things thats in this color and reports is the killing of our out. Is there a colleague showing eyeball class . Now . I always try and be an impartial, but its very, very hard on this occasion because she was all colleague and i worked with sharing. But let me ask you about that day that she died early in the morning. That was and is riley military raid in janine a pre dont raid. Im along with all the reporters from out to 0 and other media. She went to go a couple of what was clearly a news where the event you looked into this closely, what happens then . Our investigation and our conclusions that we incorporated in our report and delivered to the General Assembly is not in fact a United Nations investigation. So firstly, thats the beauty of the mandate. They didnt have to create a new mechanism to investigate this. We have done so well, even with limited resources, we were able to engage in forensic examination. We identified the easily defense, false mid unit. Its the division of unit and we know the come on to offset unit. We have ease of name, we havent disclose the name as yet, but we will to a judicial institution. And so we found that that was a direct, intentional killing of sharing with her. And shes been deprived of that right to life effect telling is not the investigative. And if not, if theres no apology in compensation, that at least that must be justice. And the perpetrators must be brought to account, not sharing was with other press, they were clearly why they not identifiable as members of the press. Also, i understand sharing with shots in the head, they clearly intended to kill the as a commission, we have selves held oral hearings in geneva and the journalist who accompanied sherene and he took a bullet in these i think he gave evidence before us. So we already have his evidence that this shooting was there to report on violations as she saw them in jeanine. So she was there for true journalistic reason. And i think we the public as a pulled when a journalist is attacked because that jim, unless it was doing a service for us, the public, she was you a great risk. She was reporting on the events so that we will be informed. And thats why this has a killing is causing so much grief not only to the family, but to the media world. And to all of us, what do you make to what these rate of what these rileys said about this . Immediately off to the killing, they said it was palestinian terrace, following indiscriminately. And then they came out with a preliminary investigation. But they said it was a hundreds of bullets from published a new gunman and possibly an exchange of far between pulsing and gunman. And these Riley Security forces, and then when they came up with that final report in september last year, a high possibility that she was accidentally hit by Security Forces come fall back. Their explanations have changed repeatedly. Which points clearly to how to the, until that we are being presented with it makes us suspicious. It makes us so suspicious that we find it hard to have any confidence in any explanations that is that i have gaves. And what makes it particularly suspicious is why once they allow an investigation, they brock, the f, b i investigation. But we have again and again aust to to be able to enter is not on the to investigate this coming off shooting. But to hear from these are there any victims they have a right to tell of the experiences theyre suffering. And particularly these recent events, victims of these attacks civilian is ladies who ingrid, whose family members were killed them. Id like to speak to us as well. So therefore, this is what i said at the General Assembly saying to the is a, be a master who was present that to us. And if you have nothing to hide, why not let us in so we could conduct impartial investigations. Im satisfied with where we got with the limited resources. Theres a lot to answer full. I should think that its ready to be considered by a prosecute to of the International Criminal court. So, you know, the tools can be hidden for long. You identify the come on the unit, the du du pony, also known as unit 217 being responsible. Ive been reading about them. They apparently carry out high risk in complex operations including targeted killings of militants. But they seem to have, on this occasion, its a targeted killing of a journalist. Is it just the soldier who fought that round, who is legally responsible . What does this go up, the chain of come on . You know, international law, a look under the wrong statute provides for cmon responsibility. Thats why we zeroed in on establishing the name of the commander. We dont know the name of the soldier who actually fired the bullet, but we havent stopped oh, investigations well, well be pursuing it. Its important that we know the name of the commander petite, because he probably get it should be or to on which the soldier who did this extra shooting the exit, the followed orders. You have said that you will not allowed to go into israel. All the products in new territories, theyve not given you permission to go there. Not only that though, youve had lots of criticism of your commission of inquiry from the us who says your bossed, but israel is gone even further. They say that your commission of inquiry is empty. Symmetric, what do you make of those allegations . You have my 1st st. James, you know i was uh high commission, a full full. Its a full year to me. I was the only one who was tim was extended to 6 years. Yeah. Well is that voted in support of the extension of my to im the only high commissioner who was invited to conduct a mission inside. Is it, i mean nobody could, to size me for by us all of being an anti semitic these kind of what i call abuse of being held since i, on the took this responsibility of chatting the commission of inquiry. I will continue my work in a, in the manner in which i have been a custom to we have our own stand up together with the other commissioners so we will continue to abuse. Does not detect us. On the other hand, i could see that all these actions are really to distract attention from the contents of the report. I would like them to look at the substance of all report and see where weve gone wrong. In terms of the effects weve gathered and the law as weve interpreted it, so im very happy that all of the conditions have been adopted by the General Assembly. And the question of the lawfulness of the occupation and the responsibility of public of pocky states. Members who support and unruffled occupations are spelt out by the International Court of justice. I do see that that will advance the piece process and knocked up struck the piece process. As our detectors k, you will not the only person whos come under attack by israel in recent days. Israel has been attacking a man, you know very well the secretary general of the United Nations, antonio terrace. He said in the Security Council, the attack by hamas did not happen in a vacuum. Israel responded by blocking you and officials, including the humanitarian Chief Mountain griffith from visiting and as cold on the set go to general to resign. Do you see similarities in the attacks on the un now on the attacks on your commission of inquiry . I think will be a tax on the commission of inquiry, a mild im im, i find that its remarkable how much the the critics from is that i have mounted the attacks on the 60 generals himself. This has never happened before asking the 60 general to design when he has made a legitimate statement. One country member should not be allowed to make statements such as this article and for the withdrawal of the secretary general. I understand that the foreign minister has since worked it down. He statement it should never be made in the 1st place. The secretary general made a legitimate statement in my view, and actually we are the ones who provided the evidence of whats been going on in the past. Yes. Which sets the factual background to why the 60 general is quite right in saying that this attack is not just something that arose in isolation, but that we must look at the context. We must look at how desperate palestinians off with some end to the conflict and the oppression under which they have to live daily. You talk about the context, annual reports, you refer to the broader context of these radio occupation, which is. Busy has no intention of ending with your background in south africa as the 1st known white female, High Court Judge in south africa. Do you think this is in the potty regime . Yes i, i think it is. I know that weve been asked to invest it as the address the issue of apartheid. Now in the commission, we still getting there because we think the root cause is the occupation itself. Apartheid is one of the acts of discrimination that regularly practice that and let me, st. James as a south african law, none of the apartheid. And in the struggle we, we were very desperate to have some kind of relief. You know, at the time i never thought well see change in our lives. And it was at that time as president monday, law late to explain to us. At some point you had to read either blocked and key results to the principle of embarking on. And the struggle of costs, admittedly, they didnt to go into low lot of white people or civilians. They went full a strategic the it is structures such as a, a light pole or a oil storage. These kind of things. But the point im making is when youre back, when you have a whole population are pressed for sol wrong with the no remedies, no the leave. They actually forced to resort to trouble. However, as a judge, we do condemn indiscriminate attacks on civilians. When you say that you dont think is route, once the occupation and you know, the position of the International Community and you hear it every time. Theres a Security Council meeting from all of the main plas is that needs to be a 2 state solution. But you seem to be hinting at something that none of them are prepared to say the current is right. The government doesnt want a 2 state solution. No, james, what do we see . Effects on the ground . Yeah, theres hardly any tendency left. Theres been forcible, dislocation of palestinians, of an increase of settlements or even again, Security Council resolutions. The moving in of outside is all of which goes against the rules of occupation. Actually if there are any rules to this. And this is why we think that this occupation as continued for so long that is while does not have any intention of ending is. And the possibilities of a 2 state solution are the mode directly as a result of their actions. And im really surprised that many states, particularly in europe, think that the state to scroll should just continue as is, but to watch and, and this is why i am proud to serve on this commission. Which majority of them the states have adopted, you know, to, to address the root causes of conflict and seek them. It is not very polite. Thank you for talking throughout the, submits the world, slow down. We stand firm as homes with tests of global nichols reserves. 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