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The, the sierra leone has enjoyed stability since the end of its civil war in 2002, that was, had to deal with a few domestic crises in the us since last year. Hundreds of people took to the streets in frustration wise, the inflation and economic hardship, the protest to environment and the test since then, president dubious my, the bio is being re elected. But the accusations of widespread irregularities in the poland june a former cooley. During the 1990s bios post william team was recognized for trumpeting education and womens rights. But off to the recent cues in the region, does sierra leone faced a similar risk . The president of sierra leone, judy and some other bio talks to out you 0. The julia smiled. The p. O. The president of seattle. Yeah. And thank you very much for talking to alex is 0. I was lost in your country a very long time ago. It was more than 2 decades ago in the 2000 in the final years of your civil war. And i remember it was the most brutal, awful civil war i was actually there on the day, the revelator for a sancho was captured bring me up to present how is sierra leo now. But were just fluid democratic nation making progress as far as development is concerned. And the war is not seen of the past overland, quite a lot from the very brutal war. And we intend to share our experience with the ward as you say, the wars in the past. I mean, i remember driving. So check points. That would mind. I think that we called the west side boys. They would child soldiers that were fueled by drink. And by drugs, i remember the rebels and some of the things they were doing. I mean, the total number of People Killed as well over 70000, i believe. And its not just the People Killed the people mutilated sit down. Remember, some of the survive is telling me that they were told tape before the mutilated d want long sleeves, theyll short sleeves, and that they rather have the lim cutoff here. Or here it was the most appalling atrocities is the still trauma in your country. From these things the definitely we have not been able to do with the trauma because there was no provision for that to end up to supplement. But definitely it was one of the most important was in africa. Were happy that it does come to an end and um, the participation of the look as in trying to, its the ones that from an order to be to experience is really what is making us succeed in trying to, to hear the society to the country. Its of the country was divided is there was still a problem with regionalism and tribalism in the country were steve, have vestiges of that. But the war itself was really not on an estimate equal regional basis, most of the court. Its a senseless war because it did not have any of those sort of a characterized sessions. But um, what it did was to draw us october, the combination of various factors from Bad Administration to corruption, to lack of trusty associate justice. All of those dots which could be native into that was so um to describe it has been estimated call. What does not treat our so quite a lot of people. Academics include it described as a socialist war because they did not have an idea legit not did it have the the, all the descriptions that one would ascribe to some of the wars that we know enough are good. Lets look at the lessons from see already at one point to new country. I believe that with nearly 18000 un peacekeepers. But actually the thing that changed thing was, was 800 british power soup. Us who went to korea and in the 2 thousands if you look at things now to decades on theres no appetite to tool for an International Intervention like thats enough for christa ball towards destructive dia, too many crises. And i dont think theres space for that sort of a huge un intervention. There we go. We have a huge presence already in the d r. C. But why we tend to give the credit to the videos International Actors that after the end of the war, i want us to go back to look at actors that play the vert. Could you carl . Especially women, department cheese organizations thats with they have from the beginning. But of course they do not have that presence and to project what do we are doing. But that kept the wall that kept just a site to going on a hopeful that the what we come to an end. And if we talk about this stability to please without relapse into another conflict, it just because we used to read unions wanted to end up for on. We are looking for a group that tweet hapless because already the what was on let me talk about some of those who intervene and that so United Nations and United Nations peacekeeping because there are lots of questions now about United Nations peacekeeping in your country. They stayed there until 2006, they dissolved all of the various groups. And that mission is seen in the un is a great success. If you look at the situation now, you had a large Un Peacekeeping mission in molly, which really didnt stop the violence and its now being kicked out of the country. And as youve already mentioned, the democratic republic of congo, the you and its being that for decades, im the father is still raging. Is the role for you and keith peacekeeping in the world . Now, there is a rule for that initial description, but like to have said to you that must be appetite for peace within the country. Its of the biggest octo is the main actors or setting a political quotes. Or i know the actors must be willing and ready to have the process, you know, a situation and as much as the domain and literature out there does not talk about the readiness syria dean is played to colorado and in that for. And that must be, that should be taken as one of the experiences to the fact to, into the mix. As, as far as d. C. And other places that going to look as i important. And if you can identify what we have to now is the you and becomes the midwife to bring the, the, the groups together. But the, we are interested in peace and we are interested in making sure that we make progress. But because conflict, its, have been extend communication, what wed need at that time, most of the time is actually that to me, did. So with the democratic republic of congo, the you and have tried all sorts of things. And certainly theyve been speaking to the women and they mean speaking to the Civil Society, some of that sort of things that youve mentioned. And yet nothing seems to look. Is there a new approach needed to see . What is it . Um, i am not this carla diaz, the i am certified of i know quite a lot about it, but im not deeply knowledgeable to make any a category test. Its minutes about what should be done once i, im trying to emphasize this is that the little cause that important contribution, different knowledge about what is happening. Sometimes the International Troops that go in have no understanding of the on the line conference that i actually keep in the conflict a life. And we talked about the transition in your country since 2002 since the war ended. Is there any risk of balance returning and youve started your 2nd term as president in july, there was an election that was controversial. Ill get onto that in the moment. But as the results were announced, the opposition lead. Similar camara claimed live rounds with father these office. Are you worried that finance could break parents in any way in your country . Again, there are no shots fired there. Theyve got claims of that. The police investigated the um uh, some of us went there. The so no, no sign of anything, of course is actions are owed as contentious as you would definitely agree. And therefore quite to the end, a process like that, like what would the to be says the is the 1st cause you ought to. So people we say anything to, to, to, to, to get the same budget of the international community. Well, let me just pick you up on the election of exactly what happened because i said it was controversial. You need to 55 percent to avoid the 2nd round of the election of our 56 percent and according to the Election Commission but an independent code coalition of Civil Society groups, National Election watch, ive just been looking at your elections in 15 years. They estimate you and youve got 50 percent. And also in some districts the report. So a more votes cost and the registered voters and the you said that there was some mistrust around the electro price. So just on the record where you fairly elected for us, we read again for went to the end of the election. Ive worked very hard for the country and that was every evidence in available even before the elections that i was going to win. The election was free, fair, and transparent, as opposed to like outset, elections out. Very contentious, even even while were speaking in new york in the us, that contentious a well, i mean the speak. I think given the president by this position is the being contested. So up, elections everywhere we are fledging. Democracy. You have elections and see earlier and but if you look around your region in recent months and youll part of africa, power is changing. Hands not with elections. And i tell you, molly, youll next door neighbor guinea between the fast. So these yeah, and most recently come on o cruise. You go back just a few years between 2008 in 2017. They would know whos on the continent of africa, our tools, whats going on, something strange is going on. And we need to put a finger on that. Because in different countries, have different. Those will have cited results outside the Different Reasons for the cause from uh, from uh, a got born to get it to my, the, to a new share and so and so forth. But i think we have to continue to try to understand on the line raising. And i, we not sit here and say i have thats of the costs now. But i think we should collectively make the effort to understand why this trend has picked up so quickly. And these almost been golfing what was on was in on all of these countries in west africa that have had recent twos. A french speaking former colonies of problems, its not just a coincidence of what i think it is too early to say. And i dont want to jump to any conclusion at this point in time. Bad things to the host, post power, to actually make the effort to understand whats happening in the region. So that we can try to contain the spread of uh, of extra constitutional changes. When president my mood, a zoom was over, started a new share. In july, the Regional Group which your member of said it would intervene militarily. Nothings happening since was as an empty threat. While we decided as a region that it was an acceptable and that were going to engage, we had to talk to the engagement, it just not be a remainder fruits and the we decided that at some point it isnt necessary. Well have to intervene many times with the to, to, to reinstate the, the constitution of the elected government. So, and they have not done that yet. So it echo was military operation is still looming. Its not something that youve given up on, correct. But after that, a lot of dynamics have changed the, the, the core, the, those are beginning to soften deposition step, beginning to accept the dialogue and the quite a lot does apple. And then then once we encourage you know, is to take that down, look for that for it because movies are interpretation as you know, its not not, not necessary that the best way to deal with, especially in this situation like uh, a new chair would such a military intervention by echo was the Regional Group require a Security Council resolution. Is that the only thing that would make it legal or not on the yes, because uh this would be intervening into another country. So echo was wouldnt proceed without the Security Council resolution and your i, i, i am sure im not the chair. Of course, at the moment i am a member and i, i believe that that is how we will proceed. Lets talk about your own experience with curtis because before you were the president , you were an army break of the im going back a long period in the 19 ninetys you were involved in 2 k as in 1996, you became the military head of state bots, im going to put site for you said you became books, we had to state and then you called elections. So my question to you all the good cooks i think is the most difficult question ive had to answer. Yes. Lets put it into context. We have just come out of the bipolar award. The whole word was in the state of flux, the governments that we had there. We have a one party state that has refused a new form of democratic uh, tenants or principals and the other 45 to use every attempt to democratic attempts to change the governments touch saved. Yeah. Whats the mass corruption which impunity, there was. They had cause to such a cottage, i saw as a, the management of the countrys consent to the point that we had to war. Some members, betral. So i said sometimes its a senseless. But people who just got tired and went to the bush. We we have young sort is we sent to the front to fight and yet we didnt have the we have we all. But at the same time, what was the main for us . The waterfront was being squan that in the city. So, i mean, um, when you send somebody to the waterfront, you must get chemo. How do we have . Weve all. So wed be leaved at the time that we have the goldman, the task close to this war. And yet whats to benefit him from the war at the expense of our own lives . We thought each was beginning reason for us to come and remove that and to bring about democracy and dental surgery date. So you say that can be good. Twos in double in the room, li bongo was deposed. Hes real that country for as long as ive been alive, and a lot of the population seem to support. What happens in gap on was the cooling group on a good cook. I, i, i, we have not describe you. Thats a good cool. Um, i have described buying the one i took the button. Im that im for the knowledgeable about. I said good, good. Because when we catch to our time table, and even when some members of a particular of a force went it to change, i stood up and say, if youre saying there was a 2nd cool because some, some members wanted to renew and wanted us to continue as to change our uniform and, and im be literally this by just a conduct in a thick election. I said to, theyve know we came to reform and we have done what we can, we have to conduct the democratic collection and gave over and hand over power to do the electorate. Government capital is how i have to remove my boss, just so that we can have democracy. So when you look at the, as bob governance, to the extent that it can cause the will and divide and cost poverty, a misery i think, should not be accepted as democratic government. When you have both only 3 and governments being supported sometimes by the west. I think that is not good to democracy, is the rule of the people and therefore this you enjoy from that. And that is why we thought it was necessary everything. Nobody was coming to our age. We were at the sufferings we at the waterfront. We did not have a munitions, we do not cause the war, and yet we are supposed to put our lives on the line for a government that was no good fights of. Lets turn the page and talk about how the, the whole world interacts with africa. The United Nations back in 2015 setup, something called a sustainable development. Go 17 goals to try and improve all of humanity with well behind on all of those targets. As things stand the slogan at the time was nobody left behind in countries like sierra leone. Do you still feel left behind . Definitely, maybe to continue to assess, like just to radio. And weve been struggling for a form of the United Nations security to consume with 70 percent of the decisions concerning africa. And why we talk about representative nice in or uh, word bodies measuring the bodies. We get our, our, what p for representation in the United NationsSecurity Council, state continent of one point to be the is as follows on the sofas sofa. So yes, we feel that to get is a deliberate attempt by some sections of society to keep us in the back. You talked about reform of the un Security Council, the you inspected general antonio guitars is also talking about reform of the Global Financial system and a burden of debt. How would debt relief and debt restructuring make a different sincerity . And definitely we are not able to breathe properly. We need some type of that relief book, which ever terminology to give towards kelly the Bretton Woods institutions and all the other International Financial institutions. The guys published at the end of the 1st 2nd world war. The things have changed. We have different variations. We no longer a subjects of accordingly. A must is quite a lot has come into play. Were talking about climate change. We. We provide one of the biggest monks to the wards to drop us up uh uh, the, the, the, the, the byproduct of the many wrong things that are taking place. We contribute to less than 4 percent of a of the come on and get weak. Hi, disproportionately, in jewelry and some of the, the effects adverse effects of climate change. So the ward is definitely not a fabulous, but we see holding on. And we have thinking that if a awards we listening to us and say yes, they are making the genuine efforts. But then that is a lead me to what we can do. And we need the support of the International Comments and not when us readiness on fire, but points to it and its making efforts not to being fired. If you have less debt, would you put more money into education . Because that seems to be 1. 00 of the land market treatments if you will. Government 20 percent of the states budget going into education. Youve made schools free both primary and secondary schools. Wise education being such a priority for your presidency is the biggest weapon for transformation into what is the best investment in human beings. It is the best thing we can do. We, if we are enlightened in the 21st century, which fit for purpose education, a lot of our challenges once we but we, we reduce the impact on society. We are talking about Inclusive Development leaving no one behind. That is why we have what to car, to the right, cutting collision, meaning that you respect people for you, where you are, what political inclination you have, you should have access to education. It is the best weapon to fight over to it. It goes right across the 17 is did use that you have named, and we vouch money. We had the audacity to embark on free quite a good occasion. It measured in our program. We used to, what do we get the from domestics us is revenue. So if we had support, if we had relief difficulties, we can pull out of that into education. I need to has on for security. Because for me, these are the 3 of us that keep the human being going. If you have going to have good education and you have for security, there will be a room for development and lead to strides. In january, sierra leone enters the wills of big power politics with you sitting on the un Security Council for 2 years. How are you going to play with regard to the various superpowers, particularly china . China has investments in sierra leone. Yes. On the other side, you have the us and europe, who your friends, the width, and they say, no, you should be on the Democratic Team. How are you going to play those different tensions . We are on the Democratic Team already. Weve had some right democratic elections. I see im a democrat. Yes, but you have Big Investments which, which ive done 2 years, but investments the one thing that we have not. So 5 from china intervening in our democratic process, we need help from everybody. We need support, technical support, we need the friendship, we need good partners and we, we need partners, but we respect us to that retreat. Those estimations, peters of nations that i yet we are not 15250 as into the democracy and definitely showing this time when we tumble, we should not be punished. I see if we have committed murder. We should be treated as countries making a genuine effort to ascribe and took part in the process that is extremely contentious and difficult democracy anywhere. So if you have dont to 150 years into that, and we just 60 years into that, you should be hunting us with some compassion. Knowing that we are on the, at the a, the, at the, at the beginning. Do you this my, that be a president of the see already . I thank you. Thank you. The to wish and is so bad by the next to this moment on the fiber optics of goods. What are the people in a state of shock . People are very scared, very stressed. 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