Hello and welcome to the program im fully by table. Garza is facing a humanitarian crisis of catastrophic proportions. Israels total seizure of the enclave has cut off the prize of food, water and fuel for more than a week. Border is a close, so 8 isnt getting in and people arent getting out. All this is ralph. The Bombing Campaign kills any just thousands of palestinians. Many of them children will go to a panel in just a moment, but for a spent in monahan has this report posted using gaza, or desperate for the most basic necessities of life. Israel has cut off supplies of food, water, fuel, and electricity to be already perceived enclave. Its relentless Bombing Campaign that supports hundreds of thousands from their homes and put further strain on already limited resources. I have 7 homeless families in my house. Ive been a since 7 am. Is this enough for 7 families with the children over my house has had no bullshit for 5 days yesterday we got was sold for so of israel has told 1100000 people in north of garza to leap ahead of intense military action. Families are gathering everything they can carry and heading south, but bullet awaits them as a closed border is riley bombing, as far as the closure of the roof of crossing with egypt. And there are concerns that a potential influx of refugees. A trucks are lined up on the egyptian side of the border. Unable to enter, the United Nations is trying to convince all parties to allow the aid through. We need to get aid to those people. For 2 reasons. Number one, to make that movement safe. To where they want to go voluntarily and to just sustain them while theyre there because they wont get out of gaza and they need to be helped in garza so aid access is our overwhelming priority. And we are in deep discussions. Hourly with the israelis with the objections, with the ghosts of the how to do that. It has been a lot when it came out of terry and crisis is growing worse by the day. In addition to the rising number of palestinians killed, these really bombardment has injured thousands maps. You end up getting out of your job, but we have no results. Theres no equipment to help those drop down to the rubble. No medical facilities to treat the injured. We are digging without bad hands. This is a disaster. As food of water run short, more and more people, they feel ill. And when the last of the fuel runs out, hospital struggle to keep them alive. Benton, monitoring for insights, storing the to that spring in august now in gaza is nash lasha was ox fam spokesperson. And a guys a resident if im these one of the hundreds of thousands disgraced right now, because of these really bombardment in australia, in the u. K. Is dr. Nick may not a consultant search and who visit scholars have regularly to train medical students and doctors. And hes also a member of the u. K based charity, medical aid for palestine and in cairo, egypt. As sarah kiera, founder and director of the European North African Center for research, a warm welcome to your thank you for joining us on inside story. Im not sure i shall want in god, but please let me start with you. Its been more than 10 days now since these really bombardment of guys i begun it. Its few that the situation humanitarian situation, could get much worse. Can you just tell us 1st about what the Current Situation is inside garza and how much longer can people hold on for without any aids coming into the beseech territory . Special situation is, is the state during causative and uh sufficiency and the extent of uh, of tax and air starts on homes, are natural structures and that has been and continuous the fast food have the have not given any opportunity for any, for anything that can be added storage or even for assignment use to connect to communicate, to even move on belongings. These have been networks out in town home in garza city. Prior to this samuels at the sound of the steps, we all did all together. We went over the plan to 22. 00 or more in our house and dressed all together to, to this place. And the situation is, is its extremely dyess. And because there is no access to fuel, there is no evidence in damage. And the Storage Infrastructure and waste Water Treatment class that has no access to all time. And it is very limited is capacity to, to physically move it even within those cities within the towns. Right. And let me just ask you something. Sure. Please. Yeah, national or no, no slot, you talked about water the these really is that said that theyve restored water to some parts of guys which from us has denied. Can you tell us about some of the basic necessities that you have right now . You and your family. Is there any water at all . Is there any, any food, are you able to get uh, bread for example, or is that running out completely . No. The yeah, the situation where i am incentive garza is less of a domestic song, but the south west is more of a numbers of people dismissed and the that has more has any populated in areas like in some eunice. Im into a lot of money to do that is sorry, its not, not stopped, not stopped in front of you and this orange of folding sensor yes or on the road. Is that the claim to be a safe passage doing that evacuation after the instructions that the site is not put out . So i also dont think the claim of though the, i dont have the information on the, on whether its actually its back or not. But because the problem is much, much more complicated than this, you have the networks that have been destroyed. And the 1st structure that has been destroyed that is, its mindy, i succeeded distribution of water. So even if it is a good next step, which im not sure about that, i cannot confirm its has also limited to a pass. So not the antonio sauce will get to, it gets to a certain area and then it has to be like cousin was something has to be distributed and this capacity is no longer bad with no fuel generated no or no, no from food network. So its, its a subject for the media is just, thats my, my thoughts. Another thing is and when it comes to other issues like this area of mind, the problem is that the one thats connected to public, thats where we did not on walter less because we had a lot, im also rather small to was not been so depleted and so, but in terms of quality, we cannot use it for drinking. And even if we have the capacity, which is not every day, we are trying to this off the top down for the people to yes is who gets you to one because we had some fuels from before we have been managing elevator, we have only executive hold it until tomorrow, and we had about 60 people here and we dont know its tomorrow. We wouldnt be able to find the, the, the walters on those uh, in, in the area. I think that the biggest halter this is all the searches and very very kids are also depends on, on the us to come full search for cleaning and washing. Yeah, so its, its this complicated. You describe a very dire situation, the national toyota, i briefly on food and then ill, ill bringing doctor lean on to talk to us the situation of the hospitals and you guys are right, this is the food situation. How do i think the states, when does issues today from the roots were broken . Which is great, alarming, because the situation is already very click. You have to be aware of that before october 7th. And this program has been suffering from lots of funding to support very poor population. Now its saying that if we will actually supply ones on house within 4 days. So the stocks thats available in districts who will be with the, uh, the patient uh will not be not gonna be available in the coming for this. And this is a very interesting and the problem there is no and window, no hope for any. And for any humanitarian car doors, or any i ceasefire and anything like that and spouse such its impossible. And just but to see suffering more and more evidence, what else is the worth waiting for on crisis . The big thing, the news because of the communication, we will discuss it the because the question of humanitarian quarters in just a moment national but i want to bring in doctor may not in oxford, documented as nationalist said that the situation was big even before this latest conflicts began and they were ready shortages of medical supplies and hospitals, medical equipment, what are you hearing about the Current Situation in hospitals across guys, whether its in the north or in the south way some hospitals have been asked to relocate to move patients to the south which has been extremely difficult, of course. What are you hearing about the conditions in these hospitals . Is that the situation is absolutely desperate and there is a very clear view and the share that the Health Care System and causes on the verge of table collapse is 8 is not allowed. And i have it up to full hospitals in garza off unable to function actual as hospitals because the infrastructure has been so badly damaged. Ive had most triple some cheap all hospital which is rather hospitalized, but most of my time in a, over the years. And they all essentially find me own, but with extremely limited results is very wired about the amount of water they have in the russian thing that now they are very frightened that the fuel, that is the thing that generates is about to run out. And if that runs out, then they will no longer be able to keep people alive on ventilate to. So the minute that fuel runs out, full ventilated patients will likely died. Itll be extremely difficult to run an operating phase without electricity from the generators. So they were in a state of, of, of a polling desperation and nia collapse. So the whole Health Care System and doctor may not when youre talking about access to clean water or the lack of access to clean water, youre talking about also here the possibility of a, of an even wider and an even larger health classes. Arent you . The most certainly, i mean that the, the washing facility is a very, very few and far between the table is a big concern. And that the situations around see right, for outbreaks of, of human, a gold Infectious Diseases. And thats a very, very real risk of, of sweeping through the goals and population satera. And let me bring you into the conversation. Sarah immediate unconditional access to live. Saving 8 in gaza is what the United Nations is calling for today. And a number of agencies including w, h o unicef, w s p n on right . Say theyre all ready to bring a to 2 guys to the roof of crossing with the, just about also to the Israel Border with casa. Why is that not happening wide a why is a not going into guys that is it being politicized . Well, thanks for having me. First thing, its very important to exclaim, the history behind that, everything that the doctor in the u. K. Mentioned and not just letting guides mentioned, this has been the situation for guys that for the past 18 years, its very important to point out that this is not the state, but the guy that has been living under for just the past week or the past 10 days it is the situation that the guy, the people, the guy, the population, the plays the guy is a trip that is the most populated, please in the world. Ok. This is the dire situation that everyone has been facing guys for the past 18 years because gaza has been under siege and block it for the past 10 years. And its very important to point out that is there a has the control over 6 to 6 crossing gates or crossing borders. It dates like the rough one, but the but the ra pointless chair between the injection of 32. 00 and a israel. Ok, so the have the authority over 6 crossing borders out of 7 and they are still not collecting the 8. And its very important to point out that the guys of people are under collect the punishment ok. Licked this published meant and, and, and, and this is much easier situation to live under. Uh, like the doctor mentioned the status of the hospitals according according to human nature, area and reports. Attitude. Only one person, one an individual has a bed in the hospital for everyone to understand what are we talking about . I will do 1000 people. This is the situation. The gaps that has been living on through and my reports are, et cetera, where human yeah, everyone reports can act india. Sarah, let me just pick up on something you said, and that is the israel controls 6 Border Crossings into di, gaza, and theyre refusing to let aiden egypt as you said, controls the roster, crossing with the rough a crossing in southern gaza. Now theres been talking the last few days of opening that crossing. Rafa crossing to lead a didnt to egypt, and also allow people to nationals to get out of the gaza strip. Right. Why it has that not happen . What conditions is egypt putting on to allow that rasa crossing to open or is it the is radius . Whos putting the pressure on a roof or right now . Is it egypt or is it these release . Ill explain to you. This is the only crossing border that to that is shared. 13 between is right and each from our part from the egyptian border. Its ok. And we have hundreds and tons of, of a resources to left into our brothers or sisters inside of gather. But the whole eh, the tolling comes from is right in part, the crossing border from our part is open and was older boys with colors of things waiting on the border. And is there a doesnt let that thing we need it . We need something to guarantee that its rein, wouldnt let the human, he tire it into guys that so we said were not letting any other a nationalities rather than the philistines get outside of that border. And we have foreigners, other a nationality holders, even americans, friends and everyone waiting on the board. It to be back, waited from the rough crossing body, which is right. And boom, being the rough border from their site. So they dont even respect the other nationalities who are not palestinians while waiting to be evacuating. And thats on the diction condition. Its very important to point out, thats an addiction condition. Just the pressuring force is right to let the humanitarian aid in. And the did in a bind to that the, we need a deep set supplement just as fast do you to let the human a, terry, and can boys get into got that and they didnt get that. First, they a put a condition a to inspect the going full is and they are tons of convoys. So, but egypt said, we are responsible for that, right . We are responsible for nothing that humanitarian aid inside it guys and okay, under our supervision with you as a go supervision as well. And i just dont want to let that he me every an 8. And sarah, let me Bring National national a on this national. What do you, what is your understanding as to whats happening at the roster crossing with egypt . Of course, the 8 good come into the border with israel as well, 6 crossing se, but theres been a lot of focus right now on rafa. There are lots of 8 convoys wasting outside of profit across seem to gone with a much needed aid. What is your understanding as to whats happening at that Border Crossing and the conditions in which this aid would be allowed into gossip . No, honestly its not very clear. I mean its, its very vague. Even so im trying to eat some something. Me just so i dont, i dont i that kind of came, i have, i need a more information except thats how we did it in, in, in, in goes ice that theres a concern also by the egyptians up and that this would be a evacuation that would lead to actually the transfer and kind of outside of sentience to a refugee kind of state of the board. And, and you know, of course not a stand in stone to on that. And educations dont want that. An exam is done and is, is, is pushing to a box or whatever. And some other leaders are involved in such a discussions or such them. This is how its kind of broke up and in the back of our minds as part of senior living. Here is uh, the minutes i left my home from garza city to center garza, i had the spheres immediately. Is this end of the 1948 . Are we going to come back . So thats one thing, but on, on, on the other side of the its, its not the, its, its, its um, if there is any, since he is. And how can listen to, i mean, is there, i would not say the, as a kid much. I mean, its says for them, its instead of petition and thats, uh, theres a, you know, ben, business that matters. It doesnt matter. Okay. Its just the amount of pressure that, that the outputs on its on the, to a now, in that it seems its not enough. So we have to even have to be seen in the coming days. Yeah. So you know, how much more is the model of that session . Is it only to evacuate their citizens or other chaos as friends are going to instead of going to the yesterday . Because the minute they was saying that the window that they can go and, and, and actually cross, nobody trust nothing. There was another attack on the board that its a tool that a mess and send on the other side to the tense needs. Yeah, i mean, the code is, uh, they do. Yeah. As people are standing then. Yeah, as people congregate conga, great towards the 7, a border with, with guys is that they are of course, some cascading effects that are being created. The national, i wanted to ask you one more question about the age before i bring back doctor may not to talk about what the most immediate needs are right now. Naturally, i just wanted to ask you about something israel has said, and more specifically, the former prime minister. Yeah. Le pete, who said that her mom is trying to prevent aid from coming into gaza, accusing her mazda of taking some of the aid, some of the goods that were left in other shelters at the you and had to evacuate from. Did you see any evidence of this nash law, or any evidence that her mazda is preventing age from coming in as ease really say us . Um, i havent seen anything and for so it, i cannot comment on anything like that. But i mean test the test and thats the 1st time i did about such a thing. I think it doesnt make any sense honestly. Because any way, no one knows that the, the amount of a thats has been for example, stop by and add something new. And agencies of stocks is hardly enough for the search on to day so, so, so i, i really dont think i wouldnt imagine some where would this be coming from under all this had people in bozeman and as we see how there is nothing that moves into gaza, i would doubt that that much, but again i dont have to. So the information, let me bring in doctor may not, not doctor, may not their children still being born in gaza today. There is no water still, little food and the situation is becoming worse. What are the most urgent needs right now . What would you see those 8, would you, would you like to see those a convoys carrying into guys once theyre allowed in . Yes, i mean, i think, but the think is role defensible thing. But opening up one bold up at rough uh, is gonna get an agent to serve as a hold of garza. And the most the roads from the hospitals are being destroyed suddenly and she felt fully access roads have been boned and not been possible. So the notion that the large numbers of patients in pennsylvania is going to be evacuated through one opening down at rough or i think is, is frankly, from civil. Um, so i think that needs to be a lift of the siege completely. And the, its mindy more bolt across things that can be opened from israel, need to be open to allow aid to come in that way. Speaking from the u. K. Perspective, i know, magically the palestine has got many health. Okay. Well, because of a place to come and go in and help, and im sure of that comes with the same. So the minutes, the minute 8 is allowed a and it needs to be allowed in for moldable. Does that really have to . It needs to happen and then in the next day or 2, and even if the age is allowed in talk to may not, its not going to be a light switch, is it . I mean, even if it gets in it, does that mean that a humanitarian crisis is averted . Most of that and you know, a because i think is going to fall down that road now to, to, to, of, to, and the great risk of, of widespread Infectious Diseases will remain a, there are many people who are injured a and may not be saved anyway. So it wouldnt be an immediate turnaround, but i think once, once there was no fuel for the generators, once there was no will to ones there was no, there are no blood products which are running out. Then that will be a total collapse of a Health Care System. Sarah, what about creating safe quarters . Whats the potential for that to happen in the near future . A just like just to comment back today, are you on a Security Council resolution has been locked as an initiative to result in a resolution of course to top the fire in gaza and that has been blocked. The owner and the who and the unit assess are doing great job, but its, its, its very contradicting how the politics behind this conflict is blocking those. You an agencies from carrying out their own missions. Its very important to a pine top, but is there a asked to respect human rights and let the humanitarian gallery doors a worked out for all those teens and something fire is a must 1st and hopefully in the future know you and Security Council resolution in that matter would be blocked. Yeah, the politics are really important in all this with the us. We know as a pointed, what theyre saying is a special envoy for middle east and humanitarian issues. Present binding is heading to the region in the next few days. You think bite and so i can push things all over the line when he visits a wednesday on the humanitarian question. This is why egypt, egypt went to the u. S. A supervision over that. The past, the to let the humanitarian aid in. And thats why president of the for bessie gold for an International Summit on the palestinian codes next subject. 8 points 1st of october. And its very important in this timing to stop and, and this for preston biden wants to impress a inside us and out you want to cut in the results in this conflict. Nice lot. Ill give you the last word in guys that i know youre talking to us under very difficult. A 2nd top circumstance is very difficult conditions. What would you like to see happen in the median . What would, what is your message to the International Community today . And my message to the community is, is actually a question im to run. I mean, what should happen to stop this to make this, not this stop us. And because once we are focusing on the managerial process with also focusing that theres regular skimming every day time so spots them inside or sort of storing more and more of the infrastructure and then also alice and neighborhoods and also, and its simply nobodys able to stop stop tops and i think that works or to should stop it, set double standard. And remember that we are equally human palestinians and the rest of the world. The other thing is that they must be and it needs its immediate humanitarian ceasefire, at least to try and minimize the hardship. In addition, theres where that child since of paper and suffering as 3 minutes. And im, im, im only experiencing a sample of thoughts, fran. Its, its very, very difficult to measure that. Thank you so much. Now should i thank you for talking to us now. Joshua, why dr. Nick may not. And sarah kia, i think you told 3 of you for joining us on inside story today and thank you. 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