As you can see on our screen. So were watching both of those things at the same time. Ill just take a moment to recap what the egyptian president was saying. This is obviously interesting in the context of what was supposed to happen today. You as president still in that plan. Still instead put on his really soil was supposed to be meeting today with the egyptian president who just spoke with the jordanian king and with the palestinian authority. President s that will not happening be happening today because they cancelled on him that was supposed to be meeting in amman and theyll set the cc as i bring you in time, or we keep watching those 2 things as i bring in our guess time or come with let me just a quick recap what cc was saying actually hold on. Here we are here. We are a high stakes diplomatic visit by the us president ial by and who is now on, is really soil being greeted by the is really Prime Minister benjamin netanyahu. This is a show of support. Remember this visit has been billed and is a show of support by the us president s to the is really Prime Minister in the way of the hamas attack that was carried out in southern israel. What 12 days ago now on october the 7th, which has killed at least 1300 people in israel. Recall also thats at least 200 people are being held captive in the gaza strip by hum us some of them american nationals. That is something that the us president ial biden has spoken with. So were keeping a very close eye on whats happening on the tarmac of been green airports as bringing alan fisher who is in tel aviv allen and give us the play by play. Give us the not the play by play, but give us kind of a context and the readers guide for of yours to this visit. But the intention is for joe biden should support for a sale. Hes been very strong in his language since the hours after the attack. He came out on that side to the be the statement from the white house, expressing support for israel, say, we stand behind you here. Mutually clears the way for Material Resources i munition to be sent to israel. He said whatever you need we will deliver. That was the intention i sent me anthony blinking has been a secretary of state has been in the region for the last 67 days. I know it only has the met with the israelis in a couple of occasions hes been testing the temperature in out of the capitals as well. Joe biden decided to, to make this visit after being invited by benjamin netanyahu. But of course, has become a very dynamic visit because the circumstances have changed dramatically in the past 24 hours because of the massacre at the hospital. And so what he was hoping to get out of this trip, which also included the trip to mind to meet the pot, was to be lead to the king of jordan. And also this is the president of egypt that has changed dramatically because the, i believe has of essentially canceled that meeting. So joe biden is now here that you will express a support once more, but his team are trying to find out exactly what happened at the hospital. The israelis will try and convince them that it wasnt them because they are looking essentially for an american thumbs up to a ground operation in gaza. So it is a very dynamic situation for joe biden, but he is hoping to limit the humanitarian impact of what has happened and gaza calculation, which will basically has changed in the last 24 hours. What has he said about the attack on the hospital in the gaza strip . So he expressed this consent. I see what very diplomatic language and called it an explosion. Not the attributing. Blame on either side. Uh huh. Yeah. Obviously the, the investigation will be carried out by the americans. They will, i have really on the evidence that is given to them by the israelis, the language on the a forced one. When there was a briefing, as the president flew overnight from the united states, to interpret who is the spokes into the National Security council was saying, look, to be a very aware that the is really, is, are saying it wasnt them. Some people have suggested on social media that, that is perhaps the americans saying that eventually were going to get to where these really are these. These are looking for an American Green light to go into guys a be delayed their plans. People said because joe biden was on his way here, and it would be difficult for him to be here to talk about kind of, to the issues at the desk. Told the guy that was ramping up, while the desk told in the last 24 hours and guy the guy that has ramped up quite significantly. And thats what makes this a more difficult task for joe biden. But he will point to the International Reaction to what has happened, how many countries are seeing the israel is to blame on point to the fact that the goodwill that is real hard in the aftermath of the how much the tax could easily disappear is pick you magnitude in crisis and guys a gets even worse than it is at the moment. All right, balance fisher reporting in tel aviv, even as were watching the live shot to the us President Joe Biden who has arrived as landed now. Air force one is uh, on the tarmac, had been growing an airport in israel. Lets, lets try and tease out everything that we can at this hour. Its 8 oclock, the mt. That means its 11 oclock in israel, st gauze in the occupied west bank. Of course, i want to bring in our diplomatic a diplomatic edits a james base. Thanks for coming back on set. We need you at this hour time or come with is also with us. There is a ton going on at the same time. So we have number one, the us president , arriving in israel and what was supposed to be this. What is still is a visit of diplomatic support. We have in his really strike on a hospital in gaza, which can only be described as a massacre. 500 palace to use at least have been killed according to the sources in gaza. And we have the, the other diplomatic aspect of this, which is the, the, the diplomacy between the us and the arab leaders. They have cancelled on him. I dont recall ever seeing Something Like this, they canceled on him, obviously in the wake of the attack on the on the hospital in gaza. Ill ask you both. The same question. Well, well go round on this. Um, james, what can biden achieve in these very, a thought circumstance. I mean, ive not known a president ial trip like this one, a president going into such a fluid situation as n, as you say, just just moments before he was heading in his medicaid to get on air force one and start the trip. The arab leaders counseling on him, i mean, it really is unprecedented in that way. And i think he can only really do half of what he wanted to do and thats the is ready to off. He can, he can do what hes going to do. We understand hes going to meet a Prime Minister netanyahu. He can get some post up information on the will plans, the us a very, very close in any way they know whats going on. And then there was planned, but he can have it direct him, put the top mind having direct input on, on those plans. Hes also going to show solidarity that meeting 1st responders meeting the families of those that are held. And those that have died just for practical reasons, meeting the president of israel, a present hook. Ok. Because when a presence that you have to meet the person whos normally at the same level as you, but the other off of the trip to the more important part of the trip in some ways the, that seeing that they are well, completely cancelled. And it does look like a very, very one, the side, a day trip summer we were talking about this just moments ago. The us president s, the american president s credibility now in the region. Or is it still there or is it shots . I mean, again, going back to this simple, basic, essential fact. And james also reiterated the point that the king of jordan has cancelled on him. This is one of the greatest allies that the us has in the region in terms of the arab countries. Similar its, its even in egypt to, by the way, egypt and jordan, and i bet its has its, its a good test of who more that, you know, theyre concerned of the action of the street that up street, which is obviously the moment them is that its getting moment them is the major invest the most solutions and many out of competence, us embassies being said, all that. And so this is a lot of the goals so, so the pressure is also, so they have to respond to the demands of their own people. And i think the last president , smart, smart enough to understand this as well. And maybe diplomatically understands that by disc installation, thats the key out of need. That is also under the impression, so he doesnt want to embed as the more, but still it doesnt change the situation. Whats the purpose of his visit . Me . What i, heres an option to present it is extremely alarming. Now, 1st of all, for the 1st time, i hit him head things to a possible spit, all the of the conflict into sign up. And him sending a clear message that he will not send out this. He will not be allowed to see 1st when transferred for the cnas in to sign up. Theyre not talking about the ccs comedy. Yeah, thats the go. Yes. 1 think the same starting with the yeah, absolutely. Even problems to the transfer of palestinians on egypt. And then what really, what street, i mean to me is now its, its as if hes saying that the transfer is happening. But in which direction . Meaning he was saying if these ladies wants to pull something, so instead of guidance, they should look into the negative button. Is this option, negative desert insight is read, which is that, so im out of guys. The asian. So yeah, so, so its, it seems to be like is as if he has a piece of information that says decision has been made. But we have still not showed in which direction to put the place. And thats explained not on. And then im also saying its, i mean the presence of the german chestnut thats, you know, lot, i kind of all my people to get off into the states in egypt and youll see how much that would be to support the publish done. So its and also sending a message to the us that listen, im of the pressure as when i have a sleet was watching and they dont like what . Seeing so i can also more or less. Yes. Yeah. So what you see, so things are really thinking, i mean these are very alarming evans to be honest. And im kind of like, especially with the one that comes to the, for some of the transfer. And thats just my mind to get that quote right for you. The what youre talking about, i say yes because i just sort of quote. So cc says quote, if i call on the egyptian people to reject the idea of displacing palestinians, then millions of egyptians will he did it correctly. Thats what youre talking exactly. Exactly. So hes saying that a clear message also to the, to the bad word. Thats yes, i have a state find me and ive, ive 1819000000 exemptions will go out and its a serious situation for me as well. So these are all extremely important message. Its coming out from the egyptian president at this time. And just just, just to remind the viewers that you know what even before this was this rice when set up the government thing is that i havent been very vocal and clear about that. The transferred option, even before the start of the work. We remember nothing yall holding a map of, of the middle east in the last, the on summit that was a moment ago that was dropped a month ago, started without any mention without any punish, done. And if anybody has refers to, its like a gallery so easily that agent the, the title of that map with the new middle east. Exactly. So, so by then its not even comic. I mean, it has the lot of course he was the present the but the thing is, is, is best relations with this right wing government led by nothing else has been very problematic. I mean, it was a very cold relation with the, i mean he never, you never an invite to nothing else to visit the us. He had big problems with nothing else. So what exactly is evolving also do know, i mean these are all of you obviously as a stand against the, even the of the world. Another one as a skeleton and i see it. I see that we have the, the us would be in a situation where it could be delivered into war on the system the or against us will because you cut off the big nothing the hours next step because he is totally out of control. James, we just saw 2 pictures, 2 things happening in the same time. I dont know how much of ccs speech you called because we were rushing you back in. We have to do, but we have binding arriving, and is realty show support. And we have um cc, who is just canceled on button and context us as a staunch ally of egypt to cease. He still felt that he was in a position to cancel on the part the millions and millions of dollars. They can be able to use the app and agree. Yeah, yeah, those 2 things are happening at the same time. And you look for us at all the big picture, you know, the shifting tectonic plates of geo politics. I dont want to be a prisoner of the moment, but this feels like an Inflection Point in the region. Does that so i will. Absolutely. I mean, thats an Inflection Point. I think for one simple reason, everyone is concentrating on the palestinians on the policy of the administration. Im, the Previous Administration was ignore the palestinians, go round the palestinians, do peace deals with all their neighbors. And hope that everyone forgets about them. Well, theyve not been forgotten about i think the thing well have to watch closely at this meeting and whether it might be some common ground. We, by the way, we also know from the white house that although hes not going to meet the arab leaders present button, apparently is gonna place coles phone calls. Thats not the same thing. It goes to by president a boss on presidency on the flight back on that 1st one. And i think the area with a perhaps could be something is the humanitarian area, because youve got the sucker general of the United Nations now for the 1st time calling for a humanitarian c spa. We think he means some sort of pause to deal with the injured and get, get maybe the jewel nationals out and get some age into gaza. You go to Security Council resolutions. Also talking about humanitarian pauses. Is biden. Going to continue with israel has his right to defend itself and a no no, no pulls whatsoever, or will he leaned into this pressure that is coming from the un coming from the egyptians and others. And could we perhaps, the one, the slight glimmer of hope, which is some sort of humanitarian aid going into casa . Can you speak to the challenges, the diplomatic challenges providing here because hes come to show support for his real but at this hour there has been a strike. It was so its agencies and the strike was about i wanna say 14 hours ago, not very long ago. At all in gauze it on a hospital, 500 palestinians killed to be clear is real denies that it has them. And western countries including the us or not, are not pointing the finger at anybody. This thing is horrible, but theyre not saying whos behind it. Theyre still looking at the evidence, biden, whos got to handle this while showing support for israel with the if they knew the circumstances they would never, ever, ive gone ahead with this trip, im sure. And the, the reporting is from the white house that will quite so lots of buttons, advisors who were advising against a trip like this because the president doesnt normally go into an active situation that youve got here. Youve got an ongoing conflict and the president , the united states, normally has advance teams who go to a place, months in advance panel, the picture opportunities. Its a very unusual trip anyway, and the circumstances attend very, very badly. But the us president , president , hes in a very difficult situation. What is he going to say . What is he going to do . How is he going to do with this . It is the only the only thing thats probably a good thing for the white house. We understand hes going nowhere, but telling me its gonna be a very short trip or else is there a diplomatic event to james base . Thank you very much. Timer car moved. Youre a professor of public policy, the Doha Institute for graduate studies. I want to thank you both so much for this instant debrief. And just as we saw both those things happening to us President Joe Biden landing and as well for this show of diplomatic support with the to for israel, and the Prime Minister netanyahu and the egyptian president , one of the arab leaders who has just canceled on the us president , were going to continue analyzing all of this the war on gaza is its 12 day. And theres been widespread shock and International Condemnation after israel carried out an air strike on a hospital in gaza, killing at least 500 palestinians. It is the single worst attack since israel has launched its military offensive on the besieged strip. On october, the 7th. It followed an incursion by hum us into southern israel that killed 1300 israelis is really ill. Strikes have been relentless, at least 3200 palestinians have been killed. That includes a 1030. 00 children. And tuesdays our strike targeted a fleet Baptist Hospital in central augusta city. At least 500 people confirmed that as we said, authority say that thousands of civilians were sheltering inside the hospital. Israel has denied involvement saying that a palestinian arm group was responsible and invoking a possible misfire by an ellis thing, an armed group on tuesday at least 6 palestinians were killed in another attack on a un run school, a refugee camp. Oh, suffolk calhoun with theirs inside the gaza strip. You are joining us on the phone. And while all of the diplomacy is happening in jerusalem in amman and cairo and stuff, what youre obviously looking of whats happening on the ground in gaza. Do you know what the scene is like at the sight of the strike at the lastly hospital in gaza . What was the, turn it out of the, the victims of last by the attack on the one who started soon on the deck government, the test office called on why did a Public Participation in the district of a by the way the body is all the victim do will not reach you the bunch to symmetry that way. The people used to be there at the people, but that would be like a special place called by barry such big number and serve experience. And over the past, the 2 days of is really the nation, the only the most of the people who either way have been digging the ones on very, very, and, and, and open. And, and so without the following, the regular procedure of, of the, of, i need to get that efficient on to and that i was and so on as part of the victim, the minutes of the, to the, to the number of the a, the 500 people i chose, the majority of them are, are children and women. Um the families oddison getting to place the place to another. It depends on the areas that say that i the, the, those are the automated, carry out the doc or rate on in different places from south to north. Im not even the people i display thing from the south to what . Back to the north onto a kind of tv because theres no space plays all over the goddess trip. There is no, as you might have period, basic uh, elements or basic items that they can rely on. And the thoughts on, even in the, in the, not in a good underwood. Scores are completely full of the universities that can the god says the most able to wear and god was no phone as if you choose to display things from different areas to uh, to another. Even inside the 1000 we could see people moving or taping from the bottom in towards another places. So people still coming from north to south or has that stop now that i what they can see now is that people are returning to that. Not because i meant some of my neighbors right away in the area where im staying now on the planet that was last night. The media of the off to the doctor or not on the hospital. They said, i think i must find words ive been on the to think the no fuel, no food. So why to stay know, safety. Why for stay in the south. One that has nothing to do here and that you are waiting for a or you out expecting and try kind of grade and psych anytime. So what she said, i prefer to go back on, die in my home, in dignity done to live in this human relation uh, in the south or other areas of that sort of displacement. As far as you know, are there still is the bombardment continued since the strike on the hospital or not as well . Yeah, lets try it out for the future, which is in the central area of the god that just a few pre to meet that is from what im staying the according to the sources. And then thats right. I have one of the. Yeah. And so i take a bakery, i said 3 a local on but we, we couldnt follow the news because we had good disconnected. Yeah. Totally. From internet about a low country distribution. Since those are 80 out of me, i have been intercepting these look a letter during the spacious to publish the warnings for the public, for the guidelines for leave and evacuated from time to time and stuff like that. Uh with the latest from inside gaza. Thank you. Very much for joining us again this our a palestinian president who the boss whos denounced israels attack on the Baptist Hospital as a hideous massacre saying the palestinians will not be forced from their land. Abbas was also supposed to be part of that summons in jordan. But as we told you, he canceled his trip while im fix, tentative moments of Israel Government has no red lines anymore and it should be held responsible and punished since the beginning of the aggression as being bloodshed. Given to night semester, i decided to cancel my visits and come back home to be with my people joining these hall times. Well thats no, not enough like it. Im sure we will not surrender. What is important is we will stay on all land. We will not leave all our and we will not allow anyone to force us to leave as they did in the past. The past will not repeat itself to the hospital massacre as triggered, protest and the occupied west banquet. Hundreds of palestinians taking to the streets in ramallah. The demonstrators there marched in solidarity with the people of gaza. There were confrontations with security forces, one palestinian protest, or has reportedly been killed by his really forces in a village near the mead uh joins us live from ramallah. We need to debrief the political position of the policy and president would have us all of this was happening and gaza, especially after the strike on the hospital yesterday, puts him in it politically speaking in a very tricky situation. Doesnt it is absolutely. I mean, the bus was already in jordan when the news of that massacre, the hospital in guys that emerged she had already met with the us secretary of state as any blinking the teams where the to prepare this quadrilateral summit that was supposed to happen later today after but by didnt arrived in a month, but he was faced with no choice at that point. He had to immediately cancel that because for my mood, a bus to stay there and come back empty handed while those pictures were being beamed across all the tvs across all the middle east with people pouring onto. This tree is not only palestinians in the occupied west bank, but in lebanon in jordan, and in many other countries, for him would have been a political suicide. So why that was happen . So he mediately took the decision to come back to ramallah and his after that that actually be so him on t v addressing the policy and people. And that was the 1st time because his silence was deafening. Of ever since the beginning of this war. Yes, we heard some statements through the official news agency, but by a large he had stayed away from the public eye. Staying in a mind, going through the summit and coming back with nothing for guys that would have been for him as a you, as i said earlier, a huge political suicide. So you had no choice, but to come back here. Now looking at the future mean relation and communication is not cut off with the us. And if he doesnt speak directly, there are other countries who will speak to like georgia, like egypt. So that will be ongoing. But my mood a bus needs something concrete at this point. Tell us more about the, the, the anger of palestinians in the occupied westbank because since the war began in gaza, we see an increasing number of protests. Weve seen larger crowds in yesterday. What we saw were watching the pictures from last night right now. What we saw there happening in the, in the Central Square of ramallah was a pretty sharp escalation in the process. It is absolutely, and its quite, it was quite interesting because while my mood a buzz was making arrangements to return to ramallah, people were pouring on to the main square. Here, a boy sing the anger. Boy, you seem to frustration and also calling on him to step down is something that doesnt happen very often. In the, in the west bank, it has happened before, and then you can see people and it just all came to, to the surface, oldest pension, the as been seminary, while it came up to the surface. And they were very code exceeds not only hid romanella, but in many towns across the occupied west back, including hybrids including visit. Janine there was exchange of gunfire between Palestinian Security forces and government, and one young. A girl of age between 8 and 12 lost her life in the crossfire. So certainly it just all sort of phase and it exploded all of this a time because make no mistake. Palestinians here are geographically separated from the polish tvs and guys, its very difficult for both of them to meet. Its very difficult from someone from garza to come to the west bank. They need to go through a lengthy process of security checks by the israelis and permits the same thing if you want to go from here into gaza. But despite that, what is happening to him guys, is, comes is very close to home, too many palestinians who are here and we spoke to some of them. This is our report that she might be safe from the boulevard meant calling to escape the grief and pain that has engulfed guys. O e man says, is this sense of guilt that disputing her hardest. Her father, mother, brother, and the nurse killed on october 9th, while i told she last spoke to them at 4 pm on that day and the miles my father kept on telling me, were old people and why would they utah these rileys neighbor roads. So why would they talk a tough . I agreed. Now im thinking why didnt i stay longer on the phone with them . The last words i told my mother with that i have to prepare a dinner. I would call her back. I wished id stayed longer on the call. The next morning, imand receive the much dreaded news, the entire neighborhood, the elderly man had been flattened in the blink of an eye, the family house went from this to this old, those inside, buried under the rubble. Hey, man managed to get the pictures of the bodies. We wont show them to you because theyre absolutely gruesome covered and rob of her mother missing her limbs and part of her head. And then the body of her father was retrieved 3 days later. And were starting to decompose, its a few shared by the workers from guys who found themselves trended in these well when the war broke out, they came to the occupied westbank for their safety. This man who doesnt want to be recognized says he hasnt heard from his wife or his 4 children in 4 days. So that youll some context blaine, the feeling i dont know anything. My wife, my children, my parents. I dont know if that were alive or dead. If i would that i could have made them feel safer. My children need me. Im a file that i should be protecting them. My body might be here, but my mind isnt gone suddenly. Rami also doesnt know about his family, he wasnt a medical visit in occupied East Jerusalem and says the is really police expelled him. To ramallah says he has been trying to reach his wife for a week without success. Mazda, she can, um, a how much they both have a phone anymore. I was told they went to seek shelter and are you in school bus . I havent spoken to them in a week. I cant stop thinking about them. I feel guilty. Im hit. If the crossing opens, im not going to wait a minute, say, i dont care about my treatments, even if it took 6 months to get to medical permits. I just want to see my children. Bradley fears they could be among those who were killed as they seated israels Evacuation Order to go south of this trip or among those were killed. When are you in school with it . He simply doesnt know. These are just a few stories of war and distressed comment to so many trying to survive as guys that crumbles in front of the