Ahead of its Ground Invasion of gaza, but how much is likely to be ready for them . Tens of thousands of foxes have had time to prepare traps and bushes. With the conflict about to enter a dangerous new phase phase of growing for civilians caught in the cross far along with concerned the war might spread beyond the strip. Well go to a panel of guests and just a few moments, but 1st fenton mona honda has this report is really Prime MinisterBenjamin Netanyahu had a question for the 10s of thousands of troops, mass on the florida with gaza. Are you ready for what comes next . A Ground Invasion appears inevitable in the past week. These really news readers drop thousands of farms on gaza, and netanyahu says its only the beginning. I mean, but good with striking is in the me was unprecedented minds. I emphasize this is just the beginning, our enemies have only begun paying the price and i wont detailed what has yet to come. But so i tell you that this is only the beginning, the israel, as cold up as many as 360000 reserve. It swelling the armies rank to 3 times its usual size, but the enemy is likely to be prepared. Hum us is believed to have tens of thousands of fighters and a complex network of tunnels beneath the enclave. There fighting on home ground and have had time to prepare traps and ambush is the head of its expected invasion. These really army issue to force tobacco asian order for 1100000 palestinians in northern gaza. But they have nowhere to go the lot. We couldnt leave. They said leave towards the south, but there is no transportation in the street was closed. There was a traffic jams, some cars got bombed by a strikes. This is a genocide, not a war. And its an attempt to displace the people of the gaza strip. But this will not happen. A Ground Invasion could have brought a repercussions for the region following and meeting with hamas leaders and cover their arms. Foreign ministry werent of far reaching consequences. If israel push the head with the next stage of its offensive. Meanwhile, the us is deployed to aircraft carriers and a host of war, plains them at least President Joe Biden has worked other nations in groups not to get involved. Let me say this is clearly as i can, this is not a moving or any party hospital. The israel to exploit these attacks to seek advantage. The world is watching to thousands of people on both sides have been killed in the past week advising. Further escalation is on the horizon. One that may go far beyond the war zone in gaza. Vince and bald headed for an inside story. The well, thats bringing to a panel of experts to discuss this further in bed route. We have l yes. Kind of retard Lebanese Ministry general in brussels is elijah making the imagery im. This is kind of complex and im at least for more than 30 years. And in the us state of delaware, lawrence called the retard u. S. Navy captain and former assistant secretary of defense. Thank you very much for joining us. Im going to start with you lawrence. Weve got very clear, i think is really signaling. Now, this is going to happen soon. The Prime Minister set, the next stage is coming. They will treat, put out a statement, is ready to treat this, gonna be a coordinated attack from the land and see um let me also give you you been involved in Ministry Planning at the highest level in the pentagon. What do you think the thinking about in terms of the timing, there was some reports that they were planning to do with it the weekend, but its been delayed because of cloudy conditions and they need to be able to see things from there are a couple as well, i think they were good for them, it from a Military Point of view to delay. Because given the internal problems that youve had in israel ever since the Prime Minister in that and now its a goal. But the military was an in the normal shape. In fact, people werent even showing up for reserve duty be costs are they are concerned what netanyahu was do away. It also gives the United States was secretary blake and secretary austin to go around the region to get the other countries in the region to work with us. And the as railways, after this military operation is over to make sure that it doesnt, doesnt happen again. The real question is, what, how long will it take, how much damage will it do . And when will the, as rarely stop, stop it . What will be the role of egypt . Will they allow the hostages and some of the, the people from gaza to come in . So that we minimize civilian casualties. Ok, elijah, of course the thing we dont know is exactly what these right. These are planning to do. We dont know the end game here. We dont think its going to be another limited incursion. A Prime Minister netanyahu has gone on record every how mass member is a dead man. What do you think they are probably planning on this occasion . Thank you for having me. First of all, i think that the question is whether a just an excuse weve seen in 2006 when hes right decided to the docs that were done. They took them 2 weeks to organize themselves and caught up on their reserve. It and they were very hesitant to walk in to live and that were not successful in achieving the objectives. Hey, we talking about reserve, is that coming from one of the places we talking about 300000 that all divided on 2 different funds. Plus the reserves under the command of the general commander in case one from these more than the other. Because in my opinion, there is going to be definitely a 2nd from us and we will receive that. And then next 2472 hours that the these read is all whole thing into a trap. And they, knowing these ratings are very good in the ad souls they can destroy. And weve seen what they have done in does that they can level the city, but they cannot guarantee the success of the infantry at the end of the day. It is not that a pull that going to pull 2 by 3 by 3, by thing in of and city is not a problem. And that is something extremely challenging. Even to these really armies. Weve seen the consequences in 2014, and we understand that these are easily received a heavily damage on all the soldiers. And again, i repeat, the other phones are not stopping and i think that will be visible very. So l e s is not true, that mentions 2014 israel, last 67 soldiers. Then tell us in your view how the 2 sides stack up in terms of the, the military forces. Clearly, israel has huge numbers involved. They cooled up 360000 resist. How do you see the 2 military forces that potentially are going to face each other . Uh, the flow is in is randy schafer. However, the characteristic on this floor is still kind of defense from 20062014. If you are planning to go into gaza for another big one chair, i mean you have to define what this, what is a good time. Youll see that you have the cheating you go. Um, no, it is so much. You want to just sort of uh, how much would you be able to use throwing on us. So i think that is 3 dynamics that edu playing. This game for political dynamics, the minute the max this of this. Busy army is a lot of these, he do, they have to use in order to go, i forgot what to, to be the, i mean, the operation of the band with they go and, and the life, you know, this, they sec, guys just check the what would be after what time they think that its just, you know, uh, damaging the cool lot over with we have to take into consideration. The reason i say did you do the thing that makes look to the happen . I didnt even use the phone, which is your, the so it could be coming out of her and talk to her. And then all of that that, that the Global Dynamics should. They should be left by the like a step of my, my gosh, its like a professor. I think this operation to a certain degree, you know, that i think that the american dev decided to what degree they would stop the water and all the 3 or 4 almost at that time model over the, in a problem or the task for these ladies who used to go into something thats pretty well they dont have the situation in our list. And then the fact that they show a sofa that sits in front of the fast and the fence usually gets in to, on this one, defender against the 3 a factor in this kind of a engine area. And maybe you have to have one focused on what is a be able to accept such kind of a lawrence, let me ask you about, thats about the about goals as it stands now, which will become potentially the battlefield. If we have this ground intervention, you have potentially snipers next booby traps mine fields. I these suicide bombers, one military person. I saw a site, thats the positive goals. And i looked like stalling grads and how mass have all sorts of capabilities. Something we might not know about, for example, drones quote, comp to is capable of drop dropping bombs, all those sort of things. I mean, if you up a military planet, youd be very wary. Wouldnt you right now . Well, no doubt about it because my colleagues have mentioned urban warfare as opposed to air and see youre going to have more casualties. I have no doubt that home loss is putting itself forces in the civilian areas including hospitals. And so you, even if you try and limit the damage, which i think the as rarely as well, you cant do with doc completely. And the real question becomes, if you have all of the civilian casualties, what else had their reaction from the United States and uh israels, all their allies around around the world . And yes, thats going to be difficult because traditionally the as really have separate very few casualties. Going back all the way through the war. So i think this is going to also be a struggle caught, you know, for the, for the got it for the government there. Fortunately they have a unity government. So that should enable them to keep going. But i do think they better be prepared to take a lot of casualties and the world needs to be prepared for a lot of civilian casualties. Because how boss is going to bed themselves with the normal people and hospitals and the apartment houses and stores. So pick, get you off what lawrence said, elijah, do you think how mass potentially have the psychological advantage . Here is ready troops, perhaps court cautious off to what happened on october. The 7th they saw a mazda is tactics, they sold that planning. They sold that capabilities, and of course, in that attack, israel lost a lot of prove that as well as intelligence wasnt good, but they also lost a loss of the senses and cameras around the casa. Well thats, thats really the goal of the shipper and the action i live is yes, of, of the separation. First of all, it is not to the 3rd come us because it is a completely different objective because this will because of this, this makes shift and these are really for Body Confidence and then minute, 3 days, a huge and certainty, all the people of these read this is why these really is all going into this full with a very low spirit. Only to impose that there was again and to be trust to the population that they had lost and questioning the effectiveness of their filters. So this thought the, we have a mass with a very hard spirit conversion to these really all mean with a low spirit to go into a god. Secondly, and most importantly, we have seen every time is red wage war on from us. How much became stronger . Is it exactly the same thing . When hes right away the whole on has a lot and he will not became such a strong non state after that today, he is really needed the support of the americans to keep it from the side. Its not going to stay on the sides, so we see these really instead of the 3rd from us and destroy from us, the mass becoming stronger. How much doesnt need to hide behind the scenarios because these really already all taken care of getting the civilians. We have 8800 wonder most of them civilians. We have 2800 did most of them to the videos. So these really are pretty good involved in these agreements and getting them because they are finding things, embalming using a quarter of a nuclear bomb on the city in only 5 to 6 days. Nobody can use up to 5 pilot. But these really and if they have confidence why they need to level the whole city where they want to go in because they are afraid. So stopping before the beginning of the. Busy operations they are losing a l e s. Um you just had a lot of that talking about the file. Power has been used. 6000 bombs in 6 days. We havent had an update from the is ready since then, but thats more than the us dropped on the syrian city of record during the siege, which last 8 months. And its small than the us used enough kind of stone in the, in the tall. Yeah. Yeah, 7007000. And how do i know . I mean, ever since you have to, i mean its literally just something isnt break, it isnt big dilemma. The problem is really despite the state 19 in 2006, the United States of america wanted the use and you, me to use. And then they gave the green light for this reading. So i thought his beloved for 30 days they didnt to, but that is the formula that has a lot as long because they didnt choose and its very low because it didnt as the, the whats happening today was because after the flow and this spectacular last versus im pick him up for the news, i guess how much and instead of the story, im a and the, the big the why . Because the is really repetitive. Shuffle the whole fair. Never full and 16. I remember i do remember and i need you to when day and they did live on on the side of the fire. And then it goes to silent and then shut the sides and then went to the director to surveillance and when they tied to it. So i had a baby with that face, so i mean a fight to get a citizen. So the 3 of us on sort of you start. So the dilemma which really what to lead to engine, is to destroy or minimize or, you know, uh, uh, the guy takes the deals from us. So they have to do something. Otherwise, i mean it to be a definitively a they can, you know, you know, the biggest, really, as the, the power as good as the bottom of the thing is you can, if you imagine, if you go in and you know, uh, the goods, the scenario of the election, i mean looks like isaac says size. Busy speed is the street, and i think the how much have really flat or different scenarios and they have succeeded with a level upside. What will happen . I think they, they will be the rid of defense. They would have an advantage for or they have present portfolio. She not as possible, including whoa and vision from this lady and to the guys. Lawrence, let me bring in another fact. So, and its more than a fact because its very human. And thats the captives that are being held by how mass right now in gaza. Does that make, do you think this operation much more difficult for these rileys and of course were talking about a 100 or so people, but then not only is riley, some of them are all foreign nationals that wrote us citizens, french citizens, you case citizen some, some of the israel is close allies, have a stacy and all of this. Well, that certainly does make it more difficult. It was a real question is whether through the is really sad, the intelligence to know where those hostages are compared to try and on the line. The military capability of hamas and the ice us to the home also spreading them out all throughout the region. So that no matter where the is really is go to try and eliminate home loss and their military capability. Theyre going to be endangering hosp searches. Theres no doubt about the fact that well do that, and that of course, will have an impact on opinion around the world, including in the, in the, in the United States. So thats makes this very difficult, is israel has the capability to do what the real question is, are they prepared to pay the costs, both in terms of lives and in their uh, the perception of them around the world is certainly olaja. It looks like now is the israel has the gloves off. We talked about the number of items that have been dropped this time around, then not doing what they used to call the roof knock. So its low intensity strikes as a warning, but just warning and tar areas and were hearing and ill quote this because its from new york times, apparently for the ground defensive. That going to have new military rules of engagement, let me loose and to allow. So just to make few a checks before shooting suspect to them is this is going to lead to a massive test total. Is it not obviously because they also have the kind of directive where they can build their own soldiers if they are inc of to be. And if there are a found a taken away by the minute. And so they prefer to negotiate that or on, over the funding rather than i still do it. That is their lives. However, i would like to Say Something weve seen that then yelling impala for the last 15 years. And we didnt have a job city in captivity, and he did not go shaped for his release. So negotiating at the end of the day, 400. 00 plus the med soldiers officers or civilians. He know that he had to release all the senior and soldiers, all the senior prisoners. Hes the how much and did you have . And then oh, i have 200. So the number is itd be coming right at the, at the end of the day. And so having these hostages, all these prisoners been during the boxing, is not going to affect a law, the americans and all the other nice. And thats, and i do because i already have the approval of the american for a ground defensive. Taking in to your com of the day all the games of theyre not center. I said come us and that you have preferred to have them a nice because its always the have we have seen in the negotiation of hostages between the 15 and ended ebony and because really its always better to have a hostage that does a lot of brother that nevertheless, with this though, i think the degrees are going to have a mood engagement where there is no massey because weve seen all the handfuls is behaving with this of a yes and with the guns that therefore i think these really ami that in done with piece is behaving heavily with the battery that we had on the 1st thing it says it means is going to have mercy on anything that is moving particularly when the level of attention is extremely high. Among these relays that for some bugs, migrating from one country to another, they weigh a deal on all the x rays, and they are a really high tension. And they have struggled against each other when they were trying to repair electricity or groove down the whole, the main thing because there is a hard tension. So when theyre going to walk in the city of 1300000 in the last and 1000000 in the saw, they going to go for this more the area. And then our area that is in the know and they going to open the city. What they know under every debris they, its a try. Ive seen that and then turn them on by the interior because this is what i was present. And ive seen how its nice to put them sense really at the bottom of the big. The knock on the top and they managed to get in many of the fight is trying to get by the city. So there is a lot of experience today. We talking about the amount of the, how much scientists and militant in the city where they have gained so much experience in previous one more. And they know how to fire and safety. But these really dont. And we feed them in 2006 and the spending a solid snap. And then all they really with source to we throw on the, the hate of the grade level. The fact that im not, they not used to. On the contrary, these really special forces, know how to, how to fight this guy in the full big page, right. As you know, especially the closest of bush and how much the gods up of course not. Okay. Um las um, if you look already, weve only had a week of this bombardment the death toll a Palestinian Civilians is now mold in 2014 and that will last it for 50 days. Ive seen one analyst saying the civilian death toll could equal the battle against iceland, both sole web, that is estimated to be 9211000 debt. How worried all you about a vast civilian casualty right here . I am deeply worried because as far as the cheese its close, they have to go inside going inside. They have to been bought me, especially the city. Oh gosh. Where do you have like 750000 people and that goes into the east coast. They said that most of the bones, underground tunnels with. Busy the masses commanders, indeed this, we have my id in a big be below the ship hosted. And so i mean, in order to eat late or define the fixture, the. Busy the tell you the book city, when you do stop and saying, how do i do what he achieve . My goal is to say, you know, because you have to have much to say because you are going as in the world war 2 additional surrender. Were talking about sort of that now thats talking about the story of how much. So can you the store or how much is it nice, but its been going over a good guys and you are, but i need to change the population density over position. And we didnt do any member and the other thing or for that is c as in the lady we the new. Busy and the city, the, the, the program, the n g, im going to send this to use. They do have, especially in general going to be the, they change, they change the, the landscape, the big, the big change, the state. They make a difference. Maybe maybe we can say on a 60, its like a level that is the mother who lives in between the balance of power, the biggest. But let me just bring in laurens to the end because i, we, weve seen now i think weston countries were fully behind israel, beginning to be a bit of us, a splintering, some really cooling, very strongly for restraint. What do you think could be a break on these . Rileys, if we do have mass civilian casualties, is it really only us Public Opinion in the white house in the end . Well, i think whatever side the white house is, will be the key. These other nations and International Organizations are already coming out against the casualties that are big cause just by the bombing. So the real question is, what role will the United States play . I assume that secretary blake and going around now to the other countries in the region as working with them to come up with some way to deal with this situation, which is inevitable once they send in ground forces. As my colleagues have mentioned, this going to be an awful lot of casualties. A lot of innocent people. Israel says their objective is to completely eliminate home off, not just their capability to eliminate them completely. That is a very, very difficult goal. Busy for them to achieve in a reasonable amount of time, and with a reasonable amount of dest falls to the civilians, add to the israel a forces trying to lawrence. Im trying to to our panel for that military and political analysis today alias Hannah Elijah magneer and lawrence, colby. If you didnt catch hold of the program, you can find it on our website out. Is there a dont call me if you have comments on our discussion. We want to hear from you go to a facebook page, thats facebook dot com, forward slash h a inside story. And on x, the one that used to be called twitter. Were at a j inside story. Stay tuned out is there is comprehensive coverage of the gospel meeting space and the team bye for now. 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