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The military sees power in all rich could fall in on august, the 30th for the people here after the rest of the week, it put president alief on go on didnt bus on the house. The rest of the hours off the he was declared the winner and then the election that would have extended the bung go. Family is 56. You general grease legally and gave him a head of the republican god. And the cousin advanced the president that, that the military leader was sworn in his head of state in less than a week and 3 days late to the appointed a former Opposition Leader remote and dont see much is the Prime Minister of his transitional go. Im james base at the United Nations last week. The newly appointed Prime Minister travel here to new york to address the un general assembly. Is the Transitional Government regime change for real . Oh, whats the to a family crisis transferring power from one part of the same lead to another . We put those questions very well and dont see much transitional Prime Minister of good phone talks to out just the remo dont seem a, the Prime Minister, the Transitional Governments of double, thank you for joining us here on out to 0. First. Explain to me why was it necessary to have a 2 in gap on it, and this is a passive good. It was necessary because the directions were not what the path and the results that were given. Well, not in conformity with what the reality was. Outcomes that goal set them to i did to the, i mean didnt step in, we were to have riots and disturbances in the country. Your country go to independence from from its back in 1967 years later im up, im go became the president. He ruled for 41 years, and when he died in 2009, his son, i leap on go to cobra. So the family had run the country for 56 years. Thats mine tall life had good phone, become a family business. We see, im convinced that the yes, that was somewhat what the reality was and could can, if somebody on the table is in file, can you find that alone . Because it is important, he becomes entrenched in the political system and it cannot make system. If i click on and it becomes a family business, now the co took place on the 30th of august, just before dawn, it seems to have had support from a of the military. And they very quickly seized total control. It was left by the head of the republican god bracket, a general priest, a league, and game a who was swiftly installed as the president. And a week later he made you the entering Prime Minister, Prime Minister of the Transitional Government. While you in on the cool, did you know it was going to happen . Know, on the civic, i know we absolutely didnt know that it was going to happen. Did you have any hesitation about taking the job as prime this or this Transitional Government knowing that it was as a result of a co wheezy tape of book with autism . And yes, i hesitated for other reasons. Down to the 1st reason was is sweet. Ill just stop some of that. That goes involving the government would not be candidates for a future election. Civic problem. This is you had to make a decision to come to the, to renounce seat of being a candidate if i accepted. At the same time, not accepting the city, of course would have been conceived, isnt it the best under the that me and the other people in job positions the dont go through that a full well not to them guys in gauge are committed to making the reforms that were necessary and at some point you have to make a choice. I made a choice between my own personal interest and the interest of the countries. And then when i did see that many of us dissipated that we would make a determination on the reforms during the National Debate. Since youve taken this job, you must have spoken many times to the qu, leader who is now the president. Did he tell you when he planned this cute, what preparation seat he made for the 2 . And why he acted when he did is a bounce sca limited to i frankly that the mandatory reminded what happened in 2016 when the results were given. There were purchased a lot of contest in the army, work or phone do was, i dont oblige to repress the population that were demonstrating in 2016. They were casualties and material damage in the country. And this time around they did, they come to the realization that if this time the result would have been the same. And then we would have face met on the same situation with more dire consequences and is not considered. And then it, and it says they did not accept that they would step by and follow the same orders as in 2016. You could do miss. Why did he though express to you and your conversations with him . Any misgivings . Because of course, his job was the head of the republican god, the job was to protect the regime and he ended up as the man who over through the regime no, no minute. No, no, no, no, no. See about the president of the transition that the clinton has expressed himself on the subject and i did. Its not a secret that re elizabeth to ship because they have been him and the all the, the thank you the forces with the chief ship it and they decided that uh what was happening was not reasonable. They hesitated, but they had to make a decision. The decision was a choice between being in the results as they were being planned on it and the swinging violence. If i the to the oh groups and it is enough to take that responsible decision to avoid. What was that busing for me . And you would have to shift and the way they organize it, i dont know, but i know that they talked amongst them. Just dont know if we go back to the election and the result came out just was before the crew took place, the official result showed that alley bomb go, one with 64. 2 percent of the vote. If the military felt it was fortunate. Why not just put the 2nd place candidates in power the best because it by them to the internet is down because it wasnt the many trade that wherever responsive voted for giving the results of government in of index it was the electro account so that were responsible for the results and if it is so the admitted truth about this had to leave, the electronic may come. So give the results. They had to wait until the council will give the results it is. And when the results were given, continues on. And if it isnt the consequences that going to take out of the results, if it is what the military thats good did not want to see happen or too many people to go. They knew that after the results, when the, the population would wake up, they would have said wed not happy with the results and take you through the straits on the federal court. And they would have received orders to the effect of repressing the population. And the repression mackenzies and would have been put in face, and the ministry made immediate. Oh, i wouldnt have accepted that. That is, that as you and isnt sold, as the ministry had stepped in before, the results were given is what it would have been conceived as if they had an agenda and that they wanted to play somebody else. Let me clarify the status of the former president , ali bongo my understanding is he was initially placed on the house arrest, but he since been released and the government has said he can go abroad if he wants for medical treatment. Why have you decided to release him . Why are you not potentially pressing charges against him . Was indicates youre going to get a saw on your asking a question. That is the responsibility of the committee on transition and the distortion of institutions. The ministry, as you see, avoided to they mean that only the short of the population stuff and we had a process without any bloodshed. And the ministry want to maintain a peaceful environment. And its not. It wasnt reasonable to stop by pressing charges and arresting people, keeping them in jails to come and see uh at the p. Im. It is all done to present. And if that had been done, probably some uh, photos of mr bundle would have to take him to the streets and say we, we were going to start fighting people for the stuff said, ive worked on that up as a. But in your view, is he actually guilty of mismanagement and corruption during his long rule to this im, its not, would you like to me to uh, answer the investigations. Any inquiries would determine what happened much good suited if money had been embezzled. Html smuggled a deposit and then we will see what the responsibility of those involved would be. You realize that in the hours following the cool lots of money was found in residences in houses across the city that we have to find out where that money came from. How that money found itself in these houses and residences . Yeah, you talked about money and it was money in suitcases. I understand. You say that needs to be potentially investigation already. This being investigations over the years. By phones theyve conducted a series of investigations, one of which, which was dropped in 2017. But before it was dropped, it revealed the t 9 properties owned by the bone. Go family in france and 9 luxury cause this is your countrys money. Is it not . Hes been standing your countries money. Im funded. Thats how the, the mileage were now talking about, you acquired those assets. The logic is that its a vast amounts of money that where embezzled it, youre from uh, instead of the country and lead such a number of people to acquire assets in front and elsewhere. But i have an opinion on these questions that you made. And i, and i think that there will be a time where i can speak. What about the rest of the phone . Go family i the bone goes son. Nadine had a very senior position on his, you know, the phone go family is very large because oh, my phone go, who was the president before . Had 54 children . I believe fronts is charged 9 of them currently with financial crimes of a going to be loyal to your Transitional Government. All youre not worried that they could be some sort of counter crew as weve already set the bone, good family and a rule this country for 56 years past. Go down, even if i mean, if we did think on see best on the 1st, the amount is on. I think that in a family or 56, there are people will think that whats not right should be exposed to move uh, citrix premier. I think one of the daughters me through the time so, so it into that as express ourselves. Yeah. Well, and saying that im from the committee intervention was the right thing to do. Most these children, there are a, some of them when we went in really uh, happy uh, accepted what was happening, a big level of business. So it doesnt mean that if you are a son of bundle or daughter of bundle that you accepted the bad governments. That was, that was happening. Yeah, its uh, the investigation that would show that there where and youre not limited within the family. I mean, they will us now the, the general, the launch the, the to general and get him off. He was also a cousin of any bung ago i understand. He himself launched in 2019 somebody called the clean hands operation to get rid of corruption. But youre probably aware of this as a group in the us, an Anti Corruption group, the o. C. C p. The ledges. He spent a 1000000. 00 on the Street Properties in the us in 2018 and the purchase them in cash without a mortgage. So is the mine you serve the new transitional president , dizzy, so you north, the corrupt. I dont know if i can answer these questions. If there are workers, city information, then we often by searching people that have to do information on the table. Lets talk about your countrys economy. You are an economist, that is, that is your background. So it must be evident to you that theres something wrong in a country with 2300000 people. Thats an opec member that has the full highest g d p per head in sub saharan africa. And yet a 3rd of the population lives in extreme poverty. Re, well, is there something that are public then this under a be july contest . I guess. I want to remind thats the notion of the Gross National income. I oppose this notion that income is the sum of the value of the national enterprises. It terms from conditions of peace, you produce the following investment up to look at the taxes on for me, i mention that to the benefits of these companies. This investment becomes a following income. The benefits us and say go who purchases the benefits that were talking about going to isnt, this is my did it, it sounds like its not the business appropriate of benefits in the government. Its not the government is, but these Foreign Companies that invest in countries are different en route the benefits of their investment mit this under the, by the bus. Cuz i did all this on a live forget i said yes, just up in the target because in reality it would be the share of the government is people is not what is meant to impact the reality. Because the National Income is and the aggregate that is easy to use to compare. But the reality is easily different to let know soon as investors are going to, it dont feel appropriate to the capital. So how do you change things to deal with the poverty and unemployment you have in your country trip . Oscar pool shows you this shows double if i frankly change the situation. But if we have to invest money on a problem, thats significant money in collective infrastructure. Come set up with this, weve gone to just take many and to distribute amongst the population. It certainly did it, it, the kid isnt for us to, to go to the interest of the state is to create infrastructure so as to improve the conditions for the country in what, uh, uh, energy and all the collective services public. So theres an individual, if we could improve and if you want to improve individual revenue, you have to create employment, have develop ever been available. One area where the governments of ali baba was price was by environment lists on protecting the rain forest. 85 percent of the land must have good bone, i understand is, is jungles. Do you pledge to continue that commitment . Weve been to say 10 button on the amount of pay to move it just yes, of course it was a good commitment. I think it can. You can change that to piece of the environment and you might need to, to implement. So you dont pick up the, its a question thats important for the entire humanity, not going on, leave it on the model. If we could contribute to say, for the 2 spaces or policies that would help protect the environment in the climate thats it gives you. But i, the most of the problem is that the population doesnt see the link between its a commitment efforts in and the when everybody w, the benefits of these efforts. Thats a problem down im is, its a very, a symmetric or proposal that you ask countries to make these efforts. And they dont see any revenue, any income, any benefits flowing from these efforts to get this going down 5. Lets talk about the region because the cooling good ball and was just the latest one in west africa. They were cruising molly guinea between the paso anesha. Yes. If you look back a few years, there are no curves anywhere on the continent of africa between 2000 and right in 2017. I wonder what you think is going on. And i wonder will. So why look who seemed to be in french speaking countries, former colonies from this is not a coincidence. Heres, heres a page that came up, of course, as a bunch of them. I dont know why exactly these are situations are in the form of friendship color and some of the fit on the thing. Is it 5 or maybe in good ball . Its a different situation from whats happening in mario or in new jam packed to you. And im, ive gotten, we dont want to see uh, image, its a model giving it to the interpretation of what happened in the bonus here is im confronted in this countrys, the fishing and increasing pressure from terrorism. And also theres a substances where it is not good news of these countries where they dont see the performance of the International Community actions under the front still maintains the military base and good will always still welcome on to the new Transitional Government. You know, bump up, was it lucky . So on tim deluxe, the village, and we didnt stage our position in terms of our relations between uh, given partners on the end, or if that question comes, when we have a National Debate, we will then talk of that question then. And i think we have for us to resolve on domestic problems before we Start Talking about our relations. Weve just our International Partnership and that has to do more normally when theres a qu somewhere in the world. One of the 1st places its discussed is among diplomats, the un security council. But of course, in this case, couple currently serves on the un security council. Just one of the 15 members. Did this make the last few weeks more inc quote, or did it, or is it making it easier for the new Transitional Government to think oscar list, i frankly because 2 people are asking questions when they talk about cool or not. Is there a number of decisions that im out here in the bicycle and they consider themselves . The change is not in accordance with the standards and the principles if you demo relationship with this man with it, but what else could we have done . So at the security council, people might ask questions like that, but all we do is to explain why the change happened and what we want to do in the future, can you tell, im sure. And the reason was to avoid couch not should this is difficult and that thats, thats a situation. We always ask, what would have been the best situation or the best option off to the coup cabal. And it was suspended by the African Union by the regional group, the cas and partially suspended by the coming wells. And yet, im somewhat surprised you were able to travel here just a few weeks off of the code to the un general assembly. Tell me how easy was it to get the visas and permission to come to new york is a new government met. Yeah. Do to be of own which already the cool it done that are presenting something and well other countries where a cool happen the that the, you know, we will present a discount to neale avenue. Well, off of the us, the government to me and thats still waiting to come to new york and theyre not allowed to come a just kind of pencil. I dont know what happened in memo. Okay, well let me get back to democracy in double and lets be very clear what youll purchase when will that be democracy again in your country . When will that be elections . What date . So could the, the present that 20. So i, in the key, what take the prism of the transition indicated. Its not him that would set the date of the end of the transition dependence. And they ask for everybody to be a National Debate to discuss the problems and the solutions and how to go about and theres a whole appropriate elections. But whats the timeline for those elections . And when you call you call and have a debate that goes on 510 years, kind of your info bundle as come with the Different Things we dont want to just uh, rush into what we want to do. We want to make it right. And we think that 24 months is like an appropriate average given what we, what we have to do. And just to be clear, will you all the transitional president , will you be candidates in any election in 20 . 25. 00. I says that last chapter, decision for patrick on data at this stage i, the chapter says account to be a candidate is able to show. So you know, if there are all the changes made for less them, but as of now the charge, it doesnt allow me to be a candidate in the next elections. Ok, were about to finish, but i just want to clear up one thing because ive seen this assessment and i want you will views on each of you previously served as good buttons. Prime minister 420122014. And then you join your position. The transitional president , hes a relative of the former president of the bunk of some people a saying that this wasnt really a pump for the q. It was a palace coup. Its the same, the leak running the country just with a different man on top. What do you say to that . A sinister . I think idea, 16. I need to exact them a bicycle. History would tell you what it is. It is really we could speculate. Maybe we could work hard. That position if then taking a tom good history. Well tell him what is certain is that if the minute you had and step in, we would have had a different situation. Simple checkup is in what definitely mean people would have preferred around the world. Yeah. But does it people use when the Ministry Step in . I wrote a paper in stating that this was a more of a better solution. I didnt say i pointed remote. I believe me about this id one accepted by that. Is that by stronger we couldnt have just caught on our pub in a bucket. Bottom nose and our photo was to say, we not accepting, lets take it to the streets. And if we had done so, and it was a recipe for sending our partisans through the streets, facing the ministry would have been repressed. Remo dont seem a Prime Minister of the Transitional Government to keep on trying to for, to see throughout the the, the, [000 00 00;00] the expo 2023. The world, the fast to make sure make sure to join us and lets discover a better world. Expo 2023. The i have the right to boycott. Anyone i want to in the state has no business getting involved in that got chosen and blessed us because we protect israel. 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