A more rational thing from the point of view of, from some ways to quality, as well as, as the made the most of these famous just off the coast of the main island, the day after the elections. This tranquillity may not last long for the president elect, like the face toville and sees the months ahead. Tony checking out to 0 money. Indonesia has launched the 1st High Speed Railway in the southeast asia. The multi 1000000000. 00 project is backed by china. The bush boots train will cut to travel between capital jakarta and the city of brandon. By ours they can reach speeds of up to 350 Kilometers Per Hour and can carry more than 600. 00 passengers. Sign. Is national de fireworks have returned to hong kong off the 5 years. Huge crowds, 9 to both sides. Victoria hava to see the 23 minute filing show sort of versions have been canceled since the 2019, because of major pro democracy protests only by the code of 19 pandemic. National de marks the founding of the peoples republic of china, the ssl just there. The headlines now. A huge fight has engulfed a Police Station in egypt. The Security Director it until the city of is and all the areas in flames are the place is the main facade of the building collapsed number of people that believes to be trapped inside on the car about vision of as a by sean is old. But just say to almost all of its 120000 ethnic. I mean, population of fled to neighboring mania. Theres all the headlines top to, ill just, there is next state of this a v e. Usually just Somebody Just said to take place in canada as the block next to make itself more resilient with somebody to help with the just unites on the many challenges they face on the its the knowing who did todd the west and Central African regions. The witness than just 3 years. The military sees power in all rich group on, on august the 30th for the people here after the rest of it put president on the phone, go on, didnt bus on the house arrest or the hours off the he was declared the winner. And then the election that would have extended the bung go family is 56. 00. You general brief, legally and game. I hated the republican god and the cousin to be asked the president that that the military leader was sworn in his head of state in less than a week and 3 days late to the appointed a former opposition leader. Remo and dont see much, is the Prime Minister of his Transitional Government on james phase of the united nations. Last week, the newly appointed Prime Minister travel here to new york to address the un general assembly. Is the Transitional Government regime change for real . Or whats the to a family crisis transferring power from one part of the same lead to another. We put those questions, go ramble and dont sima, transitional Prime Minister of good folks to out. Just the remo dont seem a, the Prime Minister, the Transitional Government, a couple. Thank you for joining us here on out to 0. First, explain to me why was it necessary to have a to in depth on it. And this is a passive good. It was necessary because the elections were not what bad, and the results that were given well, not in conformity with what the reality was. Outcomes that go on set them to i did to have the, i mean, didnt step in, we were to have riots and disturbances in the country. Your country go to independence from from its back in 1967 years later im up. Im go became the president. He ruled for 41 years and when he died in 2009, his son, i live on go to cobra. So the family is run the country for 56 years. Thats mine tall life had good bone become a family business. We see, im convinced that the yes, that was somewhat what the reality was and could can, if somebody on 11 isnt by well known, because his import them, he becomes entrenched in the political system and they cannot make system about whats it going to be. And it becomes a family business. Now the co took place on the 30th of august, just before dawn, it seems to have had support from a of the military. And theyve very quickly seized the total control. It was left by the head of the republican god brigadier, general priest, a league, and game a who was swiftly installed as the president. And a week later he made you the entering Prime Minister, Prime Minister of the Transitional Government. What are you in on the cool, did you know it was going to happen . Know, on the civic, i know we absolutely didnt know that it was going to happen. Did you have any hesitation about taking the job as prime this or this Transitional Government knowing that it was as a result of a co wheezy tape of book with autism . Yes, i hesitated for other reasons. Down to the 1st reason was switching, i just stopped a moment that goes involving the government would not be candidates for a few to elections to the front. This is you had to make a decision to come to that, to renounce seat of being a candidate if i accepted. At the same time, not accepting sit there would have been conceived, isnt it just its under the that me and the other people in depositions the dont go through that full well not to them does engage, are committed to making the reforms that were necessary for financial and at some point you have to make a choice. I made a choice between my own personal interest and the interest of the countries. Then in addition to many of us participated that we would make a determination on the reforms during the National Debate. Since youve taken this job, you must have spoken many times to the qu, leader who is now the president. Did he tell you when he planned this cute, what preparation see he made for the 2 and why he acted when he did is a bounce. Could lead me to, i frankly, that the mandatory reminded what happened in 2016 when the results were given. They will have purchased a lot of contest in the army. Work or phone do was, i dont know, pride, she meant to repress the population that were demonstrating in 2016 they were casualties and material damage in the country to 7. And this time around, they come to the realization that if this time the result would have been the same and that we would have face met under the same situation with more dire consequences and this sort of thing. And then it, and it says they did not accept that they would step by and follow the same orders as in 2016. You could do me. Did he though express to you and your conversations with the many misgivings . Because of course, his job was the head of the republican god, the job was to protect the regime and he ended up as the man who over through the regime no, no minute. No, no, no, no. See about the president of the transition that the clinton has expressed himself on the subject and i did. Its not a sick richmond re, it is up to ship because they have been him and the all the, the thank you the forces, the chief ship it and they decided that uh what was happening was not reasonable. They hesitated, but they have to make a decision to the decision. Was a choice between being in the results as they were being tried on the and the swing balance. If i looked in the o groups and is enough to take responsible decision points to avoid, what was that busing fail looming when you go to tradition of the and the way they organize it . I dont know, but i know that they talked amongst them. Just dont know if we go back to the election and the result came out just hours before the crew took place. The official result showed that ali bolton go one with 64. 2 percent of the vote. If the miller treat felt it was fortunate. Why not just put the 2nd place candidates in power . The best who can sit by them detected internet is down because it wasnt submitted for you that were responsible for giving the results of the video. It was the electro account so that were responsible for the results and that is the. So the ministry about this had to leave the electronic may council give the results, they had to wait until the council would give the results. And when the results were given, content is on. And if it isnt the consequences that going to take out of the results, if it is what the military thats good did not want to see happen or too many people to go. They knew that after the results, when the, the population would wake up, they would have said, wed not happy with the results and take you through the streets on the medical and they would have received orders to the effect of repressing the population and the repression. Mackenzies and would have been put in face and the admitted treat made immediate. Oh, i wouldnt have accepted that. That is it, its you and isnt sold. As the ministry i had stepped in before, the results were given is what it would have been conceived as if they had an agenda and that they wanted to play somebody else. Let me clarify the status of the former president , ali bongo. My understanding is he was initially placed on the house arrest, but he has since been released and the government has said he can go abroad if he wants for medical treatment. Why have you decided to release him . Why are you not potentially pressing charges against him . Was indicates youre going to get a so do call me your asking the question. That is the responsibility of the committee on transition and the restoration of institutions. The ministry, as you see, avoided to they meet that only the short of the population stuff. And we had a process without any bloodshed and the ministry want to maintain a peaceful environment. And its not, it wasnt reasonable to stop by pressing charges and arresting people, keeping them in jails, therefore mostly uh at the p. Im additional down to present. And if that had been done, probably some uh, photos of mr bundle would have to take him to the street and say we, we were going to start fighting people for the stuff said i wouldnt that up as him. But in your view, is he actually guilty of mismanagement and corruption during his long rule to this on its not, would you like to me to uh, answer, investigate some investigations. Any inquiries would determine what happened must go secret. If money had been embezzled, all smugglers. If i did, and then we will see what the responsibility of those involve would be. You realize that in the hours following the cool lots of money was found in residences in houses across the city. For that we have to find out where that money came from. How that money found itself in these houses and residences . Yeah, you talked about money and it was money in suitcases. I understand. You say that needs to be potentially investigation already. This being investigations over the years. By phones theyve conducted a series of investigations, one of which, which was dropped in 2017. But before it was dropped, it revealed the t 9 properties owned by the bone. Go family in france and 9 luxury cause this is your countrys money. Is it not . Hes been standing your countries money. Im funded. Thats how the dear mother, were now talking about, the eagle acquired those assets. And it said that the logic is that its a vast amounts of money that where embezzled, if youre from a, instead of the country and lead such a number of people to acquire assets in front and elsewhere. But i have an opinion on these questions that you made and i, and i think that there will be a time where i can speak. What about the rest of the phone . Go family i the bone goes son. Nadine had a very senior position on his, you know, the phone go. Family is very large because im up on go. Who was the president before had 54 children. I believe fronts is charged 9 of them currently with financial crimes of they going to be loyal to your Transitional Government. All youre not worried that they could be some sort of counter crew as weve already set the bone good family. As a rule, this country for 56 years past go down, even if i mean, if we did think on see best on. Yeah. For him on digital. I think that in a family or 56, there are people will think that whats not right should be exposed to citrix premier. I think one of the daughters me through the time so. So i think that as express ourselves. Yeah. Well, and saying that transcript on from the committee intervention was the right thing to do. Most is children. There are a, some of them when we went in really uh, happy uh, accepted what was happening, a big level of business. So it doesnt mean that if you are a son of bundle or daughter of bundle or that you accepted the bad governance, that was, that was happening. Yep. Its the investigation that would show that there where and youre not limited within the family. I mean, they will, is now the general launch to the to general and get him off. He was also a cousin of any bung, though i understand. He himself launched in 2019 something called the clean hands operation to get rid of corruption. But youre probably aware of this as a group in the us, an Anti Corruption group, the o. C. C p. The ledges. He spent a 1000000. 00 on St Properties in the us in 2018 and he purchased them in cash without a mortgage. So is the man youve served, the new transitional president busy. So you notice he corrupt. I dont know if i can answer these questions. If there are workers, city information, then well 10 by searching people that have to leave for the information on the table. Lets talk about your countrys economy. You are an economist, that that is your background. So it must be evident to you that theres something wrong in a country with 2300000 people. Thats an opec member that has the full highest g d, p per head in sub saharan africa. And yet a 3rd of the population lives in extreme poverty. Re, well, is there somebody at our politic then this under a be july point this of guess . I want to remind thats the notion of the Gross National income. I oppose this notion. That income is the sum of the value of the National Enterprises terms the phone could listen to peace. You produce the following investment up to look at the taxes on for me, make sure that the benefits of these companies, these investments and it becomes a following really income, the benefits us and say go who purchases the benefits that were talking about going to is in business monday through thursday is also going to basically separate bill of benefits. The government. Its not the government is, but these Foreign Companies that invest in countries are different and read the benefits of their investment. Maybe some of it provided for goodness and id be best cuz i did wrong. These arent i live forever. Said yes, just up in that of probably because in reality the share of the government, these people is not what is meant to impact the reality. Because the National Income is and the aggregate that is easy to use to compare. But the reality is easily different to i know, sundays investors onto that. It dont feel appropriate to the capital. So how do you change things to deal with the poverty and unemployment you have in your country trip . Oscar bush, im sure this was double if i frankly change the situation. We have to invest money on the bumper and thats a significant money in collective infrastructure. It comes up with this, weve gone to just take money and to distribute it amongst the population. So when i did it at the career, theres info, certificate of the interest of the state is to create infrastructure so as to improve the conditions for the country in what uh, uh, the, the energy and all the collective services public. So theres an individual, if we could improve and if you want to improve individual revenue, you have to create employment of develop never been available. One area where the governments of ali baba was price was by environment lists and protecting the rain forest. 85 percent of the land must have good bone. I understand is a is jungle. Do you pledge to continue that commitment . Weve been to say 10, but im the amount of putting up item over just yes, of course it was a good commitment. I think it can. You can send that to piece of the environment and remind you to, to implement. So you dont pick up the, its a question. Uh, thats important for the entire humanity, not good, but only if we could contribute to a specialist, our policies that would help protect the environment in the climate thats it gives you bet bye. The most of the problem is that the population doesnt see the link between its a commitment efforts in and the uh w, the benefits of these efforts. So thats a problem down im, is, its a very, a symmetric or proposal that you ask countries to make these efforts. And they dont see any revenue, any income, any benefits flowing from these efforts to get this going down 5. Lets talk about the region because the cooling good ball and was just the latest one in west africa. They were cruising molly guinea but came to pass. So anesha, yes. If you look back a few years, there are no curves anywhere on the continent of africa between 2008 in 2017. I wonder what you think is going on. And i won the roles. So why look who seemed to be in french speaking countries, former calling these are from, this is not a coincidence. Heres, heres a page that come up. Of course, theres a bunch of them. I dont know why exactly these are situations are in the form of friendship. Color and some of the fit on the thing is above or maybe in google, its a different situation from whats happening in mario or in new jersey. You know, my gosh, we dont want to see uh, uh, image. Its a model give it to the interpretation of what happened in the bonus here is im confronted in these countries they are facing, im increasing pressure from terrorism. And also theres a section where it is not good news of these countries where they dont see the performance of the International Community actions under the front still maintains and ministry base and give all, all they still welcome on to the new Transitional Government. You know, bump up, was it lucky . So on tim deluxe, the village, and we didnt stage our position in terms of our relations between uh, given partners you something and or if that question comes, when we have a National Debate, we will then tackle that question. Then and then we have for us to resolve on domestic problems before we Start Talking about our relations. Weve just our International Partnership that normally when theres a qu, somewhere in the world, one of the 1st places its discussed is among diplomats, the un security council. But of course, in this case, couple currently serves on the un security council, just one of the 15 members. Did this make the last few weeks more, inc quote, or did it, or is it making it easier for the new Transitional Government to think . Because i, frankly, because 2 people are asking questions when they talk about cool or not. Is there a number of decisions that im out here in the bicycle and they consider themselves the change the this is not in accordance with the standards and the principles. If you demo relationship with this man with it, but what else could we have done . So at the security council, people might ask questions, but all we do is to explain why the change happened. And what do we want to do in the future . Can you tell them, should you need them to . And the reason was to avoid callous law should this is difficult and uh that thats, thats a situation. We always ask, what would have been the best situation or the best option off to the to cabal in the was suspended by the African Union by the regional group. He cast and partially suspended by the coming wells. And yet, im somewhat surprised you were able to travel here, just a few weeks off to the code to the un general assembly. Tell me how easy was it to get the visas and permission to come to new york as a new government met . Yeah, do to be of own which already the cool it done the present and solving well other countries where cool happen the that the you know with will present a discount to neale avenue. Well, off the us, the government to me and thats still waiting to come to new york and theyre not allowed to come. Is just an account pencil. I dont know what happened in memo. Okay, well let me get back to democracy in double and lets be very clear what youll purchase when will that be democracy again in your country, when will that be . Elections wont date. So could the, the present that 20. So i, in the key what take the prism of the transition indicated. Its not him that would set the depth of the out of the transition dependence and ask for everybody to be a National Debate level to discuss the problems and the solutions and how to go about and theres a whole appropriate elections. But whats the timeline for those elections . And when you call you call and have a debate that goes on 510 years, can you invo bundled as can with the Different Things we dont want to just uh, rush into what we want to do. We want to make it right. And we think that 24 months is like an appropriate average given what we, what we have to do. And just to be clear, will you all the transitional president , will you be candidates in any election in 2025. So instead thats chapter nick or Jennifer Patrick on data. At this stage i, the job to say is i can be a candidate to the body shop. So you know, if there are all the changes made for less come, but as of now the charge, it doesnt allow me to be a candidate in the next election. Okay, were about to finish, but i just want to clear up one thing because ive seen this assessment and i want you will views on it. You previously served as group owns Prime Minister 420122014 then you join your position. The transitional precedent. Hes a relative of the former president of the bunk of some people. A saying that this wasnt really a pump for the crew. It was a palace coup. Its the same, a leak running the country just with a different man on top. What do you say to that . A sinister identity, the circular, i need to exact them a Bicycle History is what a tell you what it is. It is really we could speculate. Maybe we could work hard, that position if then taking a term good history. Well, tell me what this something is that if the minute you had and step in, we would have had 100 different dig situation samples. That is in what definitely mean people are what i prefer around the world camp. I visited people when the Ministry Step in, i wrote a paper in stating that this was a more im going to get a better solution. I didnt say i pointed remote, i believe me about his id on accept it, but it is that by student, if we couldnt have just a cut on our pub in a bucket, bob knows. And our photo was to say, were not accepting. Lets take you through the streets, and if we had done so, and it was a recipe for sending our partisans through the streets, facing the ministry would have been repressed. Remo dont seem a Prime Minister of the translational government to give on site to, for, to see throughout the the to the teams to, to do staples control and information controlling the narrative to dominate thing, the media. How does the narrative improve Public Opinion and pet enormous 5 . It might not be the most important story about china of today. But thats what the big piece attention to. 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