The 1st populated area where it has, it doesnt have running water, it doesnt have electricity, but at least it does have occasional wi fi and the migrants can stop for a while, there was an old post to help a Health Office very, very small. The places at full of mud people are coming here theyve been, theyre desperate in fact because they were roberts with the majority of the people in the to the you see here were rob. A few women were raped, things are getting more and more dangerous, more difficult here in this passage through that, that in gap on the attempted trip. Cuz United States, but still the people just keep coming us house of representatives as post a stop gap measure that could is that the government shut down the vote for the 45 day funding bill came in. The republican controlled house, the silence before the current funding did expires. So it is now voting on the bill if possible, go to present binding for his signature to avoid a shot down. The plan does not include additional funding for ukraine, and this is what the senate wanted to do was focused on ukraine in front of america. I understand our responsibilities, but im going to put america 1st. If theres a moment in time, we need to have a discussion about that. We will have a discussion completely about that. But i think the administration has to make the case for record of victory. And ive asked the administration to come down and talk to a members of our senior government officials in cost of, of told us here that said the, it has withdrawal. And some of its troops on the board that is when a sharp rise intentions and majority ethnic sub regions in northern cost of the us area of 1. 00 set, the tentative measures for what it describes as an unprecedented truth built up on the cost of a boulder. Building marks has more from the cost of those capital at 0. 15 a day, the government, the cost of, of insisted it was prepared to defend its territory. The integrity following what it called, the deployment of serbian forces. Thousands of military installations alongside the border between the 2 countries. President alex on the village of serbian, says that he was not prepared to cross the border into kosovo with his forces because of his home, his countrys hopes, of joining the european union. Thatd been calls from both the e u and the United States for the escalation in the situation. And following that, the Prime Ministers Office here in kosovo telling al jazeera, they have now confirmed that has been a partial roll down of some sub in forces. O s. The medians are fleeing, theyre going to colorado, but most are heading to on media. Fearing of persecution, of the i was about zone took control of and quite the government in your event and says more than 100000 people have crushed into its territory. Its not what else can you repeat in union for help . 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I mean, these is on cost when the president ial run of well hes favors close to ties to china at a time when india has been fixing its economic clout in the movies, this challenge of the incumbents that i sent him so that i was favored in india, 1st approach and so back here, whats a tight contest between pro west and then the pro russian punch is that the results show the positive form of less disappointment as to what fee cause and believe it when it will lead coalition thoughts on forming the next government and vote counting is finished and as pertaining author fridays parliamentary elections, 59. 00 states, and as though a house up for grabs, but they Political Parties allowed to participate for its excited votes. Was a sham. Theres a headlines monique, out there, off to the bottom by the a. Hi, im Steve Clements and i have a question. How worried or American Voters about a president ial election with a choices between one candidate is getting up there a little bit, an age, and then other who might be convicted of crimes before election day. Lets get to the bottom line. The with us president ial elections about a year away, all signs point to a rematch between President Joe Biden and former president donald trump. But along the way, a lot of stuff could happen. Congress is investigating whether binding benefited from his familys business dealings. Is it a fishing expedition or could it lead to is impeachment . Meanwhile, trump balances from one legal proceeding to another in 3 different states. And a 4th trial here in the nations capital, which is technically not a state. And besides the personal challenges of the parties leading candidates, how about the most pressing issues facing americans today, like Violent Crime or like trying to get by in this economy . To find out more about where the American People stand these days, were talking to 2 leading pollsters. Jeff, forward of heart research, which does research for the Democratic Party and mike roberts of Public Opinion, strategies, which does research for the Republican Party. Gentleman is great to have you or i always love the shows where i can get a snapshot and take the temperature of all americans by talking to folks like yourself. Let me start with you, mike, and ask how thrilled are americans with this choice of joe biden . And donald trump, which i know is not solidified yet, but thats where things look right now. Well, its great to be on and i would just say americans arent looking forward to that match up more or less. People are saying that thats not the kind of uh, candidates, uh, candid matchup that they want. Although um, you know, that is, that does seem to be where things are headed. And people have made up their minds about those 2 candidates fairly in the large portion because theyre so well known and they get to compare what a president the presidency under trump looks like versus what a presidency under under binding looks like. And so theres a lot that people understand about these 2 candidates know about them, but a lot of the calling says that people arent too excited about that match up. So let me ask you a question. Why is the system so stuck that only these 2 to whats the, what is happening in the us political system that were ending up with 2 non optimal choices that the nation is looking at. I mean, how, how do your republican can you know, conversational to see it as well, in terms of why were stuck in this choice . One of the main reasons is because of for better for worse, donald trump is the kind of the, the, the center of gravity of american politics. And we asked a question in this poll about, or are you voting me or for donald trump or against joe biden . Among truck motors and we asked the same thing and then bind orders. We said, are you voting more for a for binding or against the truck . In both instances the plurality said, oh no, this is a way more about truck for me than it is about buying. So even among bidens voters, this is a referendum on trump. He is continue to be the center of, of the economic, im sorry, of the political conversation. And even as there is, you know, theres only one president at a time. And in america, he has kind of gotten enough of the limelight that this, this is for one conclusion that were talking about is a lot because of the coverage that he continues to get. And mostly negative coverage from january 6 from is multiple indictments. And just from just being a newsworthy, uh, figure, an individual that that news outlets honestly wants to cover because of the ratings that they get. So thats where we, thats part of the problem of the, of the well problem. Thats part of the system. Systematic structure here thats keeping this locked into this kind of less than optimal choice for voters. Just let me ask you the same question, but you know, as you kind of look at the democratic side, one of the things that surprising to me candidly, would love you to comment are the polls out there that right now that said if the election were held tomorrow trump would get about 43 percent of the vote by and we get about 43 percent. Theres still about 14 percent out there sorting it out. And i am surprised by that because, you know, i think if i honestly were wanting to run a guess present trumpet. So maybe independents are a little bit worried about the guy. Maybe these convictions matter to some americans, it would look like a slam dunk for the democrats. So what is going on on your side of the equation of the people youre talking to . Yeah, so steve, but 2020 election never ended. Mm hm. We and this is not, we are not living through a normal time. This is not what donald trump keeps saying. You never know what and, and, and, and hes the reason why. And the Republican Party is the reason why it never ended. We have not been in a situation where the losing candidate and election refused to accept the results lied to january 6th and, and, and that is fundamentally different than anything weve ever experienced. And so mike is quite right, this question. Weve asked us up and its a really important question is whats your vote about . And we have access to other times when there was an incumbent president in 2004 at George W Bush and in 2012 at brock obama, both times a majority of voters that this, thisll actually my choice is about the incumbent president. Thats not what is happening now and, and that is a really important point is that donald trump did not fade away after the election, which most losing candidates, do he still front and center . And thats what this of election about thats between 20 election was about a majority of binding voters when asked who about why my voting is to get donald trump out of office. Were still in effect, reside of getting that election. And thats what is fundamentally differential with mike is saying that donald trump, this is all about trump, you mean hes, hes got a strong point. There is a very strong point, and thats where the debate tonight is going to be about trump, even though hes not in there where he wont be there. And so thats what fundamentally is different about this election. And id take your point about the democratic or concerns on the democratic side. I mean, let me just just jumping to ensure your graphic here for, you know, a 2nd about concerns about President Bidens age and, and the, and the fact is around and we get in that for a minute. But when we see that, you know, when, when uh, nbc newsboy, all says that when it comes to physical and Mental Health concerns about joe biden, with binding its 74 percent with trump is 47 percent. Theyre only 3 years apart, right . Ones in his high seventys the others and his low eightys. So whats going on there and why is age hitting one so much more significantly than the other . Yeah. So i think like the, the there are we have, we have a majority of have Major Concerns about about, about bidens house. And also majority are concerned about trump and his and the trials and what that will mean for the, for, for the, for him and his ability to serve as, as, as president if he were elected. The important thing about these concerns is that theyre not all equal. So the yes people are concerned about bidens age. But if you look at people who are, are Major Concerns about them, theyre still a good chunk of those voters, almost the one and 5 who are voting for advice for president. Thats not the same for those who have Major Concerns about trump and the ends trials, january 6th and his involvement there. Its a fundamentally different level of concern. So if you ask concern that doesnt necessarily mean theyre not there, theyre gonna, theyre not voting for by them because those are 2 very different issues. The question for voters is, do you want . What has happened over these last few years with joe biden . And Campbell Harris administration, where it is a more confident focus demetrius and get us out of carpet or do you want to return to the chaos and division and are really messy and, and even response to cobra id, which i think most americans dont want. And thats, thats rep proof in our, in our paul mike, another factor out there thats, you know, getting tossed into the soup of all of this are, you know, issues about impeachment inquiries and, you know, the, the efforts, you know, tied into issues of funding. The government, the government shut down or is an impeachment inquiry into the behavior of joe biden. Lets listen to this clip from congressman matt gates. Id love to get your thoughts. Joe biden deserves impeachment for converting the vice presidency into an atm machine for virtually his entire family. So mike and thats also in the mix. And what im trying to figure out is how americans are hearing this. Do they do . They think theres something there, do they think this is a, you know, in solvent fishing expedition . Will it have any traction, politically, from your point of view right now, or was it too early to tell . And i think americans are much more concerned about what their own atm looks like then about that kind of comment about about buying right now because of jeff. Talked about the kind of contrast that americans are making between these 2 candidates. And of course, you know, theres not, its not, there hasnt been a single vote cast yet. So we talked a lot about trump, but the culture of the other contract, so they can make between these 2. Can this is what the economy looked like under uh, President Trump compared to what is looked like over the last few years. And that is a, that isnt a really important contrast when we were doing the cnbc 4, which is a quarterly pulled. And i do as well with the heart, with the talented folks that are research um during the trip years, it was record after record, after record of High Economic confidence, people felt like things were finally uh, the economy is finally moving forward. Um cobit hits and it got very messy to, to, to just point. But since then, you know, inflation has taken a real hit and a real chunk out of out of peoples economic confidence. And now for the last couple years, what weve seen is record low record, low record, low confidence over and over and over. And weve been measuring that all of these things since the great recession. And were even seeing lower confidence on so many measures compared to even the midst of the great recession. And so talked about contrast, i think in this pull, an important contrast that people are made is for the 1st time actually for the highest margin, for republicans in terms of this basic thing. Who do you trust more to take care of and handle the economy . Republicans have a 21 point advantage is the highest weve measured in the nbc, poland going back 30 years. So we can have a conversation about contrast and these 2 administrations. But i think an important part of that is the economic realities people are facing. Well, its an out, i mean, just, mike, let me just drill down a little bit further with you on that. Um, you know, not too long ago, joe biden, and his team is economic advisor, janet yellen here at bernstein others in the economics bure. A bible land came out said, this is how great vide nomics is the named economics after this president. Is that a loser from your perspective, given the anxieties americans are feeling . Well, lets just look at what the president is promising. Hes promising Economic Growth from the middle out and bottom up. And if you look at the data over the last 2 years, who gets crushed . Whos getting crush the bottom of the economic scale and the middle class . Again, in this pull, we found a 2 point margin for democrats having an advantage, the Democratic Party having an advantage on handling and looking out for the middle class. We see record low and measures of your economic satisfaction in your personal economic satisfaction. And so both of those things tell me that that messages not penetrating. Yes, he asked to go out and talk about this because its a, thats a gaping hole in a weakness and his, and his re election bit. But the idea that by the nomics right now is a net positive for this president is really a base play. I dont think many people outside of you know, the core core. The vitamin motor is hearing that and believes it. Because again, hes making a promise that doesnt actually isnt being reflected right out. Right. Jeff is, is by nomics a winning bumper sticker. And let me just add an element. The president , the United States, went out and, and went to a store, you know, strike with united off auto workers. Went to a picket line. And you know, a lot of those strike are, you know, the folks that are striking at United Auto Workers in this labor dispute with General Motors are out there. Because if theyre concerned about elect electric vehicles and about Renewable Energy and about a guy and about various things that the by the administration has champion. So heres the press, the United States striking in some ways against the policies he brought to this economy. How is this playing with, with people youre talking to . Well, its important if you say youre going to be the most pro Union President in history, you need to show up when the, when the labor event is under attack. I know because the car is that right thats, thats that, that, that is a part of whats going on here. But if use and then you have to show up, hes showing up here and he is delivering on what he promised much like is delivering on the economy. And yes, im getting them and now pump some of these things, some it well, and its important. Its also important to remember that uh, you know, the term obamacare when the Affordable Care act was passed was, was at the beginning, was it was not a popular term and tell president obama embrace. So you said, yeah, its a obama care if im gonna get people on Health Insurance and save peoples lives and make a difference for people. Yeah, im going to own that in the same way. The President Biden is doing that now with the nomics. And remember its, thats a small part of a if everything is doing the economy, he is that mike is quite right on the middle of the last number that isnt really important number the cant be a plus to, for democrats, us must be much higher. But when you, when youre talking about the inflation reduction act, youre talking about lowering Prescription Drug costs for people on medicare. And thats gonna go across the board now for instance, prizes because of the Drug Companies being forced by president binding the lower cost in his work on trying to lower the cost for education and the are those things matter and do they . Are people feeling them right now . No, not as much as, as, as they need to but, but the more that message is delivered in the more you can see the infrastructure and the impact, but thats out on jobs and also peoples travel times. All those things matter, and thats part of what were going to see over the next year. How much is this . You know, the tech tonics and the divide between the different, you know, wings of the Republican Party that seem to be constantly. And i think terrorizing speaker, kevin mccarthy, something that the nation is irritated, but how much is that is playing into it and how much of that is inside the bubble of washington dc that in for a regular motor. I think that a lot of that, that internal fighting is, is not as important as the kind of solutions that the Administration Needs to have on addressing crime on addressing immigration and getting an inflation actually doing something to get inflation lower. Jeff talked about Prescription Drug prices, which may be very important, but, but at the end of the day, what were really struggling with is grocery prices, gas prices, and weve got an administration thats taking a very, very aggressive stance on against our own energy independence. And so when people talk about crime, immigration, energy policy, i think those are the types of conversations that americans want to have way more than then in fighting in, in either party. Um, you know, and were on the middle of a, of a republican primary. I mean, were going to have a lot of dust around our party right now that the democrats, by comparison, are not going to look like they have. But believe you, me, there is a, there is a schism with in the Democratic Party. You know, just look at our colts, 59 percent of democratic primary voters. What this present to be challenged in the primary. He is strong. He does not have the them, obviously, as people of a talked about the kind of mental and physical capacity to, to encourage people to feel which way to use a strong leader right now. And thats not just on the economy thats on foreign policy. And these other things that weve talked about, immigration crime, where republicans have again, a record high, a number in terms of our, our, our ability to be trusted on those issues. Well, its one a clip i one jeff to respond to as well, from Hakeem Jeffries up leader of the Democratic Party. He has some interesting thoughts on this question as well. The extreme mega republicans are focused on loading up of these Appropriations Bills with their right wing ideological wish list. And that is why the house is unable to function at this moment under extreme mag, of republican leadership. And why we believe they are barreling, the American People toward a government shut down that may crash the economy and certainly will hurt every day americans. Jeff, what democratic leader Hakeem Jeffreys space, say this is big show going on over there, and thats all of them. Is that giving any momentum at all to joe . But yeah, well its, its, thats a part of it and, and later jeff is absolutely right about that. And its, but its bigger than that, and thats why when hes talking about them not going to the Republican Party, its not just trying to tear down government on the, on the shut down here. Which by the way, shutdowns and impeachment. A lot of these republicans were not in congress in the 90s, but if they look back, they would know that both of these, when you have impeachment without something that a lot of people think, merits impeachment. People dont like that every jack that in president clintons job writing approval range went way up because of that same with the government shut down back in the ninetys and is very loser for, for, for newt gingrich. And thats going to be a loser for speaking mccarthy. I think he understands that, but is a bigger issue for the Republican Party because its not just about trying to tear down government and not fund things that weve already spend money and have to pay for. But it is a talk on peoples rights attack on democracy, reject and election results. You have hundreds of republicans who voted against the certified present, binds election, and you have a really focus focused on trying to take away peoples rights. And thats that. And this is on abortion is non Voting Rights, and thats where youre seeing the passion and in the heat with, with, with democrats, but also really for independence who are rejecting and ends and matter of applicants, or rejecting the sort of extreme it back or republicanism that that liter jeffries, well let, let me ask you both this question and i want to be careful how i frame it that you know, joe biden, when he ran 1st. Instead im, were fighting for the soul of the nation. Were fighting to save democracy. Does that work with americans today . So americans remember what happened on january 6th, and that has not gone away. There were people who were literally fighting against Capital Police officers in the capital for democracy is a democracy is its like a never went away that, that we are still fighting for this all over the country and, and, and what there again, its Voting Rights whether its happened on january 2nd or something, just very simple apartments that someone lost and someone one in election thats still going on and, and, and, and americans remember that in that, in and again in normal times we wouldnt be having conversations more about policy. And one of the things that strikes striking about the nbc paul that we, that we, that is we, normally, we dont ask democracy as a voting issue. Mm hm. Its like, well, that so sort of assumed that democracy is a thing that everybody accepts. We put it on our, on bc paul last year, and it was the top of the list of building issues. And so this is something that the American People really care about. And is it a real important priority, mike . Or do you agree . Like i think weve got a, uh, weve got an extreme partisanship on both sides and heres what the data says, not my own opinion. The, the data says the repub republicans when they think about the democratic agenda, 80 percent of republicans say that that agenda, the democratic parties agenda is so terrible that it will destroy america as we know it. Now heres the flip side of that. 80 percent of democrats feel the exact same way about republicans. And so we have this, these loggerheads, so we have these extreme positions about the other party that well let, let me ask you, let me just interrupt, ask your point. You know, donald trump is out there on donald trump site and saying hes going to go after the bidens, who we seizes corrupt and hes going to obliterate the deep state which is killing america. Did those messages resonate . I mean, its along the lines of what youre say. Well, heres what the, the other data says from this pole, which is when we ask who have, who do you trust more to protect the constitution, protect your rights. That is a, thats a split even across the country. And so thats the other point i wanted to bring up is, you know, i think just point about january 6 and nobody, you know, if people havent forgotten that does not just, that does not just divide it in one direction. And so there are very, very x, very, very strong feelings about the other party on each side of the divide here. And we have to recognize that, you know, this doesnt just, this doesnt just split one way or the other. Its not donald trump against the the, you know, the, the rest of the world. Lots of americans, half of americans feel the exact same about the Democratic Party and about joe biden. So both of these, both these candidates are curing and all of this baggage corruption. You know your concerns about their personal ethics and, and also by the way they have about equal feeling, feelings towards them in terms of positive and negative about them personally. Well, why is comments new both surveyors of American Public opinion. Jeff hor, with a part research and mike roberts of Public Opinion strategies. Thanks so much for sharing your thoughts with us today. If you see or so whats the bottom line . Have you ever have that feeling that youre watching a train wreck in really slow motion . Thats how i feel, as america bowl remarked, as towards this next president ial election. Its a sad indictment of both parties when they simply cant produce any viable candidates other than the guys from last time. So we see the republicans and democrats limping along very exhausted. Theyre stretched in opposite directions and not providing a great lesson about democracy to young people in the way they are run. Maybe were going back to a time in American History when the parties broke apart and new parties were born. Maybe its time that the corruption and the stagnancy of the 2 parties collapses and new options emerge. Of course, thats not likely to happen this time around, but it may be coming sooner than you think. And thats the bottom line. The other solution question is more which lawanda immune rigorous debate. People are dying because of black lives. Dont really matter in the police. Join me, mark them on hill upfront. What else is there to talk to the teams to a coming of age story and the Community Fighting to push the heritage in an ever changing world thing on an ancient way to to future generations. In an Award Winning documentary, ill just say well, photos, a group of young men on the right to pass each county in the most sorry, the ivory coast, the sacred wood analogies era. The reason the mental disease accounts for 15 percent of the
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