Is once again on the strain with sunday shooting of a policeman which led to a siege and a model street in which 3 ethnic sub gunman were killed. Those frequent tension in the south declared with public between ethnic albanian cost of us and the sub minority in the north, International Political efforts, the latest by the you have so fall, fail to find a last in solution. The region has a population of just on to 1800000. 00 people, but is the focus of big pile is with east and west on opposite sides of cost of a self declared independence and future. Well be discussing all this and whats next for the cost of the with, ill guess in just a few moments. First, this report from fence and one of the aftermath of a siege of mazda street in northern costs. About one Police Officer and 3 gunmen were killed and sundays. Shoot out. Cost of those Prime Minister says the attack was masterminded bytes. Neighbor, serbia, it was that of my to sit on the, on the we condemn this criminal terrorist attack and organized crime with political financial, Logistical Support from official bell great is attacking country. Serbia, as president , has denied any connection. He says the interest in northern costs a vote is of its leaders making or you didnt agree what this guy was. This is really the only corporate for all that is happening in the north of costs of though, although those who helped him in the International Community are also partly responsible, is all been curtis tension has been rising in the region in recent months after controversial local elections and costs about its population is more than 90 percent ethnic albanian. But several northern districts are almost entirely made up of ethnic serbs. They want to autonomy and many boy called at the vote that led to the election of ethnic albanian mares in predominantly serbian areas. Tullocks and brussels have failed to reach any solutions. The use Foreign Policy chief says both sides are risking their prospect of joining the block. We saw normalization that we would not be to be in the future. 40 the comfortable or certainly because of the survey are risking to be left behind. We know this origin of bonus are moving quicker. Diversity of the recent filing stems from long running animosity between the 2 sides. Cost of, of declared independence in 2008. But serbia considered a break away province. Its recognized by the us and most of the u. China and russia oppose its independence status is in order to prevent more outbreaks of ethnic strife, pressure is growing on the 2 sides to find the lasting solution. Bins and monahan for inside story was bringing all guests now and in belgrade. Helena, even of so itd be an offense list of associated Research Fellow at the Henry Jackson society in pristina down as long as the heads of we set to the cost of all center for security studies. And in brussel, susanne lynch, chief brussels correspondent for politico. All right, well welcome to all of you have a, lets start with you. Weve got the cost of a Prime Minister album. Catchy once again. Very quickly. Pointing the finger here at bell grade. Think all groups are responsible for the violence in northern cost of a, but they also been state but troops all of a while, i think of course that that remains to be seen. I think we need to have a proper investigation into who these people are. How did they get the uniforms that they allegedly were wearing . How did they get the weapons that theyve used . I think and in all of these cases, whenever we see escalation between cost about in serbia, i think both the serbian and the cost of, of government immediately tend to point fingers to the other side of what plays play and responsibility on the other side. But i think i always liked the air on the side of caution and say when escalations like these happen when missing bits, information tend to fly around from both sides. Its important to do a proper investigation and really see what actually happened there. And who is responsible so cause its not the 1st time that weve seen, such instance yvonne has in this region, have that been investigations of the past. Hasnt been proven that that has been bel great involvement. Well, i think of course spell great involvement has been assumed and, and shown by many and many different cases. Of course, the connections between subsequently start and dealt with politicians is also no secret to anyone. And of course style, good price to increase and maintain as much influence over costs as low as possible. So connection is very clearly there. The question is to what extent this connection is this, how strong is it . And in this particular case, whether the serbian government was directly involved, which the serbian government continues to deny. So i think we need to, we need to wait and see basically in until the previous investigations. Again, i think neither serbia, nor costs of i have shown willingness to be completely fair and transparent in normalization talks and in other instances where cooperation is required. So of course, proper investigations are often lacking in comfortable as well. So it was definitely well get into the tools and just a moment down. First of all, what evidence does christina have . But there is sub involvement from belgrade in this lot. Its in northern costs or by as well. Uh, just uh, a couple hours ago. The Coastal Police uh, uh, organize the uh, uh, press conference where they show the arsenal of weapons and equipment they confiscated. And as, according to the Coastal Police start indication that the google is organized by a well known member of the, the gong called me along the kitchen. The there are also then very good connection between him and some elements in the, in the city and government. I think the concern is here about the extent to which the russian elements because what perhaps behind this. But one thing i want to know which is very important is the nation from the certainly not the dr. Searching cause. And it was immediately when this uh, when you went to, when you called the calendar section and started the so the searching goes to the yeah. Did that me showing to inform the following that the a its for so now the reason and there were some pilgrims at the monastery binds were being held in weight positive. So i think what this dentist is preventing the potential abuse of the situation for a much more as come authority, an escalation and perhaps a group of expected. So this is just the latest, isnt it . In a string of escalations that weve seen in this region in the policy, it really does feel like this bullet hall region is particularly on a knife edge at the moment. Yes, we had a series of incidents during the past year or so including can elections. Its up to you earlier in the year that were, that were organized in the north of comfortable for a fact to the point caused by the ethnic serve in the community there since the elections and when the possible to try to install the narrative ro, he elected on a couple of percentage participation in this election after weve had a very strong reaction, really from the washington and were, were brussels. S in an official, the name the International Community are using patients within the region for 2 countries. And particular, i think as, as chrome or average against the cost of leadership, asking them to step up a bit more. And traditionally you would see a different kind of language to become from washington. But weve had some very strong messaging toward the 14 governments. And so i think this is going to do no to at here for either called on the call them or survey or russell just about 10 days ago or so that we have the, the president of serbia and the Prime Minister of colorado, in brussels. And were told they didnt really much in anywhere in terms of the civic, but this is definitely going to be further set by now about where things are going to go from here. Done that has been a fair amount of criticism directed, particularly as the customer and Prime Minister alban kashi. Perhaps suggesting that hes not being a fan, negotiate in this process by the actions that hes taking on the ground. As suzanne said, one of them being installing these ethnic albanian mass in the majority areas, why is he pushing in the way that he is . You will need to remember that the Prime Minister with the ran a Massive Campaign doing the National Elections in ghost of all of the argument that the dialogue of these ational relations between close and so gay was highly i see metric is to the tax amount of the cost of also he works the critical of the process from the stock. So some of the is position you can argue is based on his stance and his positions when he was in the opposition. But what is important to note is the situation where not even possible, where it seems of not a main dimensional collision. This means the un us cross the coastal government them, but it also seems possible government doesnt trust any longer the, the national community. And this is a very dangerous situation because asked about, you know, how do we move forward from this . He is, i think of having a c space action plan to implement the agreement that both parties accepted. Although verbally only in february of this year, the so called agreement, the balance and the lowest ation or relations. And for the matter, so in this is the only additional cost as low as possible government to deliver on the stablish 1. 00 association or community of so much so we can sit down. I think this is about what it seems that go so government expense is some kind of guarantees that moving in that direction to establish this kind of mechanism will be accompanied by complete steps that brings closer the closer the patient process. Uh, because in the past, what has happened is that some of the commitments that were offered to kosovo. Uh, you, eddystone for making some, some that so like, uh, establishing these kind of boston photo glass or other reforms. Uh there was a lot to see to meet the country halfway through most of the integration process. So with coastal expense, which is very important for the countries that the for not right. Think nice is dogs, fine, you members these the dont recognize school so, but, but the label is that the, for one members of nato, perhaps the direction of accepting was, was independent and close to it has a clear path to membership enable of perhaps also the partnership for peace, also sl apply for membership of you and what kind of the state has right now of course is the only one among success and bought some countries in the state. The so this will go long way of building confidence. We need a copy, goes to link matches, but its, it is clear that cost 1. 00 is the lowest, obviously the ad. I know it does. He says that it will, he will not take the 1st step in this the go. She ation process towards normalizing relations until so itd be a, takes, a move, makes a move towards recognizing cost of those independence is next on the features, the precedents making showing any signs of doing that, you know, president voltage in fact, just last night and his public address following the events that weve seen yesterday and cost of oh, has made it very clear that serve you will not ever recognize comfortable as an independent states. So i think what it comes to serve you in making that move. Im not sure that were ever going to see that move happen. However, what i do think is also very problematic. And i think thats the reason why weve seen some strong messaging from the e u and the us towards the christian government is a court is basically now showing that hes willing to fulfill the obligation of his country has accepted all the way back in brussels. And 2013, of course conversations about serve you recognizing costs of are by no means you, but customer obligation to create the association of cert, municipalities pre days. Uh, many of the talks that were hearing right now, its a commitment comfortable as taken back in 2013, a commitment that was reiterated in the brussels and ok to talk that happened earlier this year. But whether and if its all this kind of like association is going to be formed now pretty much ends up in the air because it is made of clear this is unconstitutional and unlawful, according to cost of the law and, and it has basically rejected the latest you proposal that stipulated that the Association Must be created the 1st and then other steps will, will come into place. And thats basically why we are in, in this deadlock, serbia refuses to recognize, comfortable as independent of one hand. And on the other hand, costs what was unwilling to fulfill the application. It has and create the association cert, municipalities. So it says that hey, we ought to size more and more entrenched, refusing to bunch these talks and being going on for move in 10 years is a huge tiring of this intractable, complex. I think it is. I think the patience is begin to free. I mean, the was a lot of days at the moment, not least, the war and you sprayed and getting that attention, giving that attention and time to this christina battery died out of its nowhere near as important, but its not how the jennifer moved. You members state here, the other issue and has to be touched upon already is the fact that he was having a huge conversation at the moment about an hour, but opening up the new member to the country. You want to join the you are the ones are and they are on the top or the west are going to the western pulse and at 20 to wants to join our various stages at the top of the t a, the year for the day. But it is, all data should be defined that delays about a amount of the rolling on the between the 2 side is going to have a detrimental effect on us. And the you is going to have a huge conversation about that in december. And its so much, its also meeting close, had to stay potentially at the survey at a leader and at the called the president in spain are in early october to talk about this idea of this year. Please visit the units here at the organization, the e u. So this whole discussion about oh, to allow you is from centered here for the better than instead of having now and your comfortable definitely not quite set aside in the desk now, but it is, and ill be good to be a major problem and i will call the wizard try full in different ways to progress and theyre really into the what about says out on top of that ive done mentioned just a moment ago. These number of countries within the you who do not recognize costs are both self declared independence. How much of an obstacle is that, and could they not recognize the independence as a confidence Building Measure to then bring the 2 sides cost of it . And so they close it together. Its a big issue at the end of the room because a lot of the time is because of their own domestic considerations. So for example, space and have an issue, it recognizes possible because of its own problem. We break radians the 3 and, and now when you say to call them and follow patients, they did their work and by law pretty these countries to try and convince them to recognize that the ben stock number was number 2 is not a conversation about that. Are there may be some kind about halfway has that me okay. Call with not going to join the you at the moment that youre trying to do, but it may move toward that. Theres a lot of conversation that the Different Companies that you bring the west from both of you to buy maybe have a 2 tier system that youre kind of in and some car im not on the other. So those kind of conversation the big ads, because no, the issues are continued yard, but very much is the buyout for the. The other issue, of course that survey is less keen on general items and expands here. But you know, a lot of which is do i have to go to, but tired, waiting a price during the u. S. Navy, that patient was made many years ago at the time of Service People actually was joining the you and now i live on the boat to see increased engagement by russia and services in particular. Where as opposed to a couple of in particular, do want to join either band saws or that other join. I had to keep in mind here. Well, at the helena just on. So thats a good feeling is a within, so be a for to join the you or is it more aligned with wash it and done . Well come back to in just a moment as well, havent Jackson Society actually conducted research on this . And weve examined the level of pro russian sentiment and serve you as well as the appetite for joining the you. And according to that data, if the referendum you membership was held, tomorrow, more servers were would vote against joining due to opinions and favor which is extremely problematic. Because that is the 1st time that were actually seeing a flip in, in the volt. That would mean, so it was not into the you and, and when it comes to rush out, the support for russia is, is overwhelming over 50 percent of service, things that russia should be. Serv. Yes. For the 1st and foremost, Foreign Policy partner and even more so 78 percent of service believe that serbia should not impose sanctions against prussia so. So i think the Political Climate here is very much changing to for many reasons that susie mentioned. Don, how much does that concern cost of, of the movement of bell grade towards most good. Well, i think its uh, the relations between uh, serbia and ross are concerned with the whitening region in the west and bought them to you. I think rush along the in stable west and boxes and, and the bass on this, the, but i said, well, we need to focus on is the speed sure. Or the new opportunity, the past, the mazda suzanne, will say, on the emotion policy, the cost of president charles, we show, may be some of these fees that youll be should be ready for in boston to new members by 20 guessing the unique opportunity that our region the mass and we need to work towards reaching Business Partner and cant get you to reaching the star. It is that the region to be solved by lots of disputes into the discrepancy model region that it really states. No new members will be accepted. The outstanding result of by that so this use and for cost of a lot of somebody uh or proposing generally just clear on the pallet, tomato. We just fundamentally funded for us. And to me you goes to the dining room for normalization of relations of sylvia. And just to be, uh, i think correct in february this year uh, Prime Minister, the impression which is bull accepted the deal that you offered the so about uh for the uh, agreement on the taxes on the stations of relations. And part of this deal is the obligation, again, for the cost of what to establish a sol, solved management mechanism for the subsidy. Because when this part, the association of somebody is working this about this and i will finish here. So i think the government hasnt started this on vacation, but the question is not gives you on going to establish this association of what kind of association you have. It should be provided be sufficient, useful, the subs living in the door to excise the it to become part of the cost to society. So this is the key question, and to do extra work association, the world needs to be sequestered in a way where possible progresses towards looking to ration as well with the driving that because theyre talking about this association of the majority of municipalities. Its a key issue in tools and a stumbling book and took up some damage weeks. Its okay about it being accepted as a way food and yet Prime Minister kazi is not setting it up. Why is he not doing that . So just for the context of interest on the 13th from the 1st time, this was agreed to establish the association that there was another view in 2015. And the Constitutional Court issued the birth date on the constitutionality of this mechanism. And decided on concluded that establishments of the association, im so mines only thing that was developed is constitutionally a okay. In a way that isnt a legal obligation for coastal government for, for that. So in this, out to this. Absolutely right. And the coastal government should come full and does a proposal over the costs of dollars on how theres association so much that we can install. It does look like, but the key also going to do that should have been but i know, i suppose ation. We want to give me here from united states, they say that the association from the, the coastal constitutional cor, but for many 1000, but know that perhaps is not sufficient. So it is fundamental that the discussion in a way and then the discussion is about the, the Condo Association of. So my goal is to balance is the needs both the needs of the subset of living possible, as well as the concerns of that goes to the government. Which in all cases the idea of how the socialization can become a potential obstacle for functionality, okay . The duration of the state, the situation in boston. Helena, could you just give us an idea of the why this solution . A just give us idea of why this association is important. Why is it such a Sticking Point of how might it benefit subs living in northern cost of i well, i think obviously deserves who, who live in the north. Do not want to see cost of independence. And all Things Considered would have preferred the cost of whatever declared independence, right. And i think for a lot of them, they have substantial concerns whether their rights would be protected if they would solely to fall within the legislation of the cost of the government. Subsequently, the argument goal was given that we are to graphically located in this area. And given that we are the majority in this area, and given you know, the past differences, the conflicts, the history of the tool. These people believe that they have the right to to more autonomy and to make decisions for themselves. And that was basically the key argument that was presented. And i think right now in the aftermath of everything that weve seen for a lot of these people could to government is, is unacceptable. And they would probably not feel comfortable living solely under the government and authority of mr. Courtney, which is why i believe this assistance on the association has further increased on top of of course the fact that this is a obligation comfortable has indeed accepted in in 2013 and suzanne. Were talking about one issue here. Theres of course, another issue about the elections, where the albanian ethnic maj, within stools, christina has said there will be new elections to replace them, potentially boy taught it or not by the says, well have to wait and see, but that is another potential flash point. And weve got another one, havent we . Another deadline of the end of this year, which we really should be looking towards because thats is for an end for sub issue license plates on vehicles. This 3rd line is already slipped because of the tensions that had quotes and the violence that had caused. What do we think is going to happen towards the end of this year . If no headway is made around negotiating table . Well, i think the advantage is that i speak of the change the conversation around those 2 issues. As likely, weve taken a number of the backwards as soon as we know the signing of any program between the 2 countries in the last few days and the amount of the incident. So i think theyre not going to be quite a marker by the government. The cargo has said that they are committed to having you elections, but very few yet of the bar to new elections will look like thats the key issue. I mean, they have the elections before the rock problem law and they were not, you know, the, the, to serve a majority didnt work agent for the day. And then, so it all depends on what kind of like you have. So thats number one and number 2 is a, you know, she said that and before the latest i avoided. So i think its joe, those change the dynamic, simulated with the number based on the 1st kind of sign that are really, you know, a re appearance of tensions in the area. What over a year ago now, which was about as a right to house or number place for a Certain Community in on this call, very important symbolic c and a very important issue. So i think the event, the last week of changed, added conversation right . About another letter, and there is some progress in the coming weeks before the deadlines and well i see the not much progress on either of those issues. Do you agree with that . Do you agree that the situation has taken steps backwards and there are a number of crucial flash points to look for to, towards the end of the year, the force of the situation has become very stable and not the deductible. And unfortunately, the, in a way protected this in this very also, i think it was the and how it as well with the calling just focus situation and the a clear the processor that it will produce a political solution that i think that so it will just be uh can you prefer the more so we need an urgent return to the, to the dialogue. I think it is the responsibility to meet you to come forward with a sequence based action plan. It says the responsibility of a possible government took off the proposal and establishing the system so much. I think thats about these. And i think it is the responsibility of all this. The lead to think also and certainly a to send the right kind of messages. And to refrain from restoring step further on top of nice to can use because the service in the its not the norm a and the there are just those living swamps coastal. Okay. And im just so i just want to just want to jump in that time because weve just got a less than a minute left. And helena, i want to know what you think it will take to see a real breakthrough and prevent move on. And i think one of the key things is for the you to actually find enforcement mechanisms. I think at this point we have seen rounds and rounds of talks where, you know, right now one person just walked out and absolutely said no before weve had some verbal acceptance as but nothing really signed. After almost every round of talks, we see another installation and each following escalation is worse than the one before it. So i think that you really need enforcement mechanisms. I think at this point, if the sides are committed to something unless they do it, they actually have to be properly sanctioned. Otherwise were just going to keep on going into circles. And this really makes live that i cannot stress this enough. People uncomfortable only mysteries, incredibly difficult. So thats i believe what we need, that we will have to leave on the discussion today. 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