Than a Football Player for argentina. Hes been Aware National hero, a man for example, that represents much of what argentina is a man that came from extreme poverty that played in the most important clubs in the world that helped argentina win a world cup that scored 2 goals against england during a world cup after a very painful war between argentina and invent a man who also be friended left wing leaders in latin. America has to be dealt castro, Ethiopian Government deadline for to gray and force. A surrender has passed. Prime minister gave forces in the northern region, 72 hours to lay down their weapons or face an all out assault. The Ethiopian Army says it is near the regional capital mechelle. A local forces maintain, they are resisting advances. Claims from both sides are hard to verify because of the media blackout. Hundreds of people are reported to have been killed in the conflict. Us president elect joe biden is set to talk about the shared sacrifices that americans face when he speaks later. This comes on the eve of the thanksgiving holiday, but millions of americans have already ignored, please not to travel over the break. The u. S. Recorded its highest daily number of coronavirus deaths since may. Protesters in thailand have urged their king to give up his fortune worth tens of billions of dollars. Thousands of people have gathered outside the countrys biggest bank in which the king is a major shareholder. They are demanding the resignation of the Prime Minister and reforms to the monarchy. Those at the top stories that stay with us the stream is that x. That have more news for you in half an hour. Thanks for watching. If i ok. Welcome to the stream. Today were going to be joined by the writer gets. We will be talking about her journey. Well, its at her nice to see you. Welcome back to new banking, so much wonder how great was the feel to have someone hold your book up as of right, so whats, whats that like insight . I still cant get use to it. I cant help it. I start smiling every time. Every time i see it, its been an incredible journey with this book. It has been years of work and its come to this point that i never, never thought possible. I had no idea that me, you would be there holding my book on television, who would have thought. So this is fantastic. Listen when i describe it as a writer, i left it at that. Im looking at your Instagram Page right here. And it says here writes many was shoot the film. How would you like to describe yourself as people love to put labels on writers and love to join was on the militant labels on them. If you were writing your own description, what would you tell our audience about you . You had a Good Research with that. By the way. I am a writer. I am a novelist, im an essayist. I am someone with a very deep appreciation for the art and history of photography. I love to make my own photographs and like my short bio on instagram says i use of old film camera. I use black and white film. But my bio, i dont know if it would have a target for on there. And this is a discussion ive had with, with a few people because i understand the level of work that goes into calling yourself a photographer. Its not just simply pretty pictures. Theres a philosophy, there are concepts behind this work the same way that i feel comfortable calling myself a writer because i understand the philosophies that guide my work with photography. Im learning, but i have a very deep respect and maybe too much respect for for fatah. Other photographers, i know the work that they do. One day i would like to get there, but right now i am a deep appreciator and a practice or so missouri right now. We are on youtube which means there and you tube is can ask you questions. I am curious as to we need describe yourself. You did not describe your nationality. I want to know why nobody is going to be really mad with you right now. You to hear them talk to the mother about her writing home work the shadow king. A bell, you can relate to and this stories that they have to tell really you have, you have a for the next 20 minutes or so. Let me get started with the chateau key. So anyone who hasnt read it doesnt know the story. Just very briefly tell us what its about. Well, the novel is set in 1935 during these invasion of ethiopia in an attempt to colonize it. It tells the story of this war from both sides of the battlefield, the italians as well as the ethiopians. But my main characters are women women who fought in the war and i sent her my attention on an orphan named tito. And the person that she works with works for us there who is a noble woman. And i look at war through the lens of someone who is very poor, who is only role in society, is supposed to be as a maid or a servant. But who feels like she was born to be Something Else beyond what society has made of her. And i also talk about this throughout their, the noble woman who has had a, supposedly all the privileges of a high social standing in ethiopia. And yet she also has felt constricted by her role as a woman in society. I mean, a raman has read the show again, this is what she told us about it earlier. So the listen. I said to the will your version of the show and i thought it was absolutely, absolutely, and fascinating read. Especially when i learned that it was based around true events that ethiopia was able to hold off an invasion by Italian Forces left only see only one of the stillness armies in the world at the time. I also heard somewhere that is then that you spent years fighting this novel and i wonder how much of that time was spent might in the novel viruses researching the events. That is a really good question. My research on this war started immediately in those early parts of the 1935. So i was doing both research and writing this story, but something happened at about the 5 year mark when i i thought i was finished. I had done so Much Research that i knew this history. I had finished the book. It was, i think it was almost a 1000 pages at that point. It was 890 or 900 something. Pages. But it wasnt a story that i wanted to write. I realized i was telling a historical story as opposed to a story of human beings. And part of the reason the book took so long was that after 5 years, i threw away that manuscript and started again from page one and rewrote the entire book centering women centering here to it. And the book took another, took another 5 years. I did not think that would happen. I thought i could get this done in maybe a year, and that wasnt the case. Anybody who really has a desire to write is going to be shocked that you scrapped look, and you started again. Let me share with people, again the process that you went through to make sure that the references in your book was accurate as he possibly could make them. And im going to recommend you, can you read this article expecting . Were behind a war novel. You talk about when we talk about war and to be sure you read the book, its putting those 2 things together. No idea that you dont shy away from science theory is one of the many things that the novel does brilliantly is string gauge with the violence. This is central to the book was the novel because that for an hour, not just about the beauty of all or but also any and the imperial struggle it in google owns not only at the level of for nations, people, castles, but also married that are of that men do to men that men do to women and women do to them. And for my question of the earth, when you started writing with malvo, and while you were engaged in writing it, to what extent were you aware of the need to engage with violence and all these shapes, with all these contradictions to a time. And how did he go . Thank you so much for that. I mean, i think we understand war, at least my sense of it is that we witness more through films we. We see war through photographs that come from areas of conflict. And those are either images that have been sanitized and made to look good for the cinema, or they have been flattened and made still for photographs to be printed in newspapers or magazines. And i, i wanted to create a movement of a violence to create this, this sense of war that affects everyone, not just soldiers, but civilians as well. Because this is the reality that when force meets force, it creates devastations beyond what we can ever imagine. And i am speaking this right now as an ethiopian, when we are witnessing conflict in our country, that is heartbreaking. It is absolutely devastating the humanitarian consequences of political and ideological disagreements. They are devastating generations. Its not clean, its not neat. It does not happen between 2 men who have weapons and point at each other under fair circumstances. And i wanted to understand the true brutalities of this, that impact generations can a country truly heal from this. And what happens when a country has had one last one war, one conflict after another . Where does the trauma go . And how do we begin to speak of this so that we can speak together through this divide . And i wanted to think about this in my novel 1935, but writing it also as an american who witnessed the afghan and iraq wars who witnessed the devastation is the way that we are still dealing with this. Now guantanamo prison is not closed yet. What does it do to us, to witness this . Can language bear, the weight of all these violent acts . I wasnt sure, but i wanted to try. I wanted to see if there was a way that i could put into language the many layers of devastations that happen in conflict. And i think that the language in which i wrote you needed to be Something Special to, to understand all the complexities of war. Thank you for that question. Mussen i was just scrolling through your tweets to see if there was any hint of what was happening in your ancestral home of the sea, in your thoughts as you were on social. And i found this and maybe im reading a lot into it, my country, ethiopia, i feel that you poor tool, your pain, into that very short sentence about what is happening for you. Back home. You will 2 books, both talk about worn ethiopia, but you different types. Is that something that is will continue to be a scene in you as nice you can do you always think somewhere about conflict . You know, i really dont rush and roger was somebody the only president , i think im like ok, nobody said punches are just the most ridiculous question in my life. Im a libyan are laughing at me. Let me tell you. Because this is what happens. This war 1930 has shaped my understanding of what it means to be ethiopian. The fact that we beat italians, you know, this highly equipped, aggressive, and brutal military. We beat them. So if you can imagine as a young girl coming to america, immigrant, black, african in a place that didnt understand her where i was often ridiculed and you know, i was bullied. And i had this history to fall back on. Because when americans are telling me that i dont belong or that i am nothing, i can say im african and i have a history much longer than the new. What do you have . So war has shaped my sense of who i am. And i came to the United States because there was a revolution in my country, and heres another conflict that has shaped me. And the reason i laugh is that i think that ethiopians, im not unique. We are, weve been shaped by the conflicts that have made this country by the conquests that have been that have broadened, developed its borders. We have been shaped by this. You can, i can go to a baby shower and i can go to a wedding and you know, very so somebody is going to say, we beat those or tell you, you know, in the glorious moment well have more of our lab. And thats a joke. But its not really saying, i appreciate the laughter, because on the continent of africa, ethiopians are very proud that they bring back the colonial is and they didnt hang out if you have a very long and you say times how you are acting as always when i read about what you did in fact, back in the eightys. Let me, let me to go back as you would in a different way. This is mr. Money, and shes wondering if the way that you, that you wrangle history is helpful to how we understand it. Now hes mr. One, and i want to stacked by thinking you for writing these 2 brilliant books that i have read and completely loved. I think the shadow king is an exceptional story. Its an exceptional retelling of history, and i absolutely love the way you have cornered these women at war. You have given them a voice you have given their body and you have given them a platform for their stories to be hard and to be remembered. I wanted to ask, how do you think the shadow king has influenced or has shaped the we reach . If you can see any talons now, remember the 1935210042 extension 1 of the patients . Thank you. I. I realized well 1st, let me speak from the italian aspect of this. This is not something that was taught and readily spoken of in italy. This is a history that most italians dont know unless they have actively sought it. When those soldiers came back from ethiopia, when they came back from east africa, a friend of mine whos an italian told me in her family when her relative came back. Nobody spoke of it. She said, ethiopia is, was a wall, is a wall in, in our family. No one speaks of it now. So the book, my book will be published in the spring of 2021 in italy. Im very interested to see the congress stations that happen, but its not a, its not something that is readily spoken of, but there are other writers in italy, italians who are working, and who have written on this history go is another, is one of them. Gabriella. Good monday is another one, friday is another one, and theyre working on this history. So im joining a group of, ironically, women who are doing this on the ethiopian side. I think that everyone knew the history of the victory. But i am not sure how many people really understood the daily realities of living under occupation, living under a war, the daily occurrences, interactions between italians and east africans, but also libyans who came into east africa as ascii. I dont know how detailed that information, how that detailed information was available in ethiopia. I really had to do research to find out i. I also realize the villagers kept their own histories alive by repeating the stories of what happened in their specific areas and their regions. But those stories did not often get out to the masses to become history. We basically have a book club happening on you tube right now. There are so many questions. I am going to fly the questions at you, and you are going to throw my answers blacks, and we dont know. What are you ready for lion of judah. I love this muslim, do you think ethiopian women are still in the shadow political power in modern ethiopian politics . I think, you know, i think ethiopian women have been present in politics for a very long time. We can think of empress title leading men to war in the 1st conflict with italy, empress ody to. We have had women in positions of power, but my concern has been those people who are born in prayer or families. They were born to different groups of different ethnicities, different regions, and ignored because of who they were. How have we, how have we paid attention to them . How have we given them . Support, how if we empowered them. And my concern is with those women, particularly who dont always have the means to be noticed and to be heard. As i remember this is the speed round and we have a 100 people in our virtual grazing where you dont want sex. Sorry, i wasnt here. Yeah. All right, next minute, disaster. Next. This ones from Marvin Marvin is waiting. What do you think . Drones those women to fight for their country, even when they will still say switch being subjugated, subjugated to the harshness of the patriarchy in ethiopia. The question, this is a very fast square, very fast answer is they saw war as an opportunity to change their station in life. They were fighting not just for their country, but for themselves as well. So uneek, thank you for your courage and determination to tell the story. How do you present facts, dates, and sense and violence from overcoming your voice revision. I mean that its just, this is what we do as writers, everything happens in revision, write it all down and then revise. Chris fine. How do you deal with criticisms of focusing on conflicts a century ago . Its, it is more current ones being that the role of women is so much different now. Oh, i dont know if the role of women is so much different and i dont know if there has been a i dont know about criticisms about writing from the past. The past helps us understand the present. And as far as right, if youre not writing about this very moment, youre writing the past. So i writers do that. We need time and reflection on what has happened in the past. Heres a quote from the shadow king, which is about the battlefield. Im going to share that without reince and just give you a moment. Youll save a bit of the book at a tiny little, not even a page. I get a little snippet of a page. Youve got the time to find out. Well, i read a little bit that we love you. So this is about women in it being it being a battlefield on their bodies, as well as actually going to war. Shes a soldier trapped inside a barbed wire fence, but shes still at war and the battlefield is her own body. And patches come to realize as a prisoner, that is where it has always been so beautiful. Can you imagine how much better this show is going to get now that mothers meeting our own mother . I said, im not a little snippet of what even to only i had a little bit. This is when here it is. That barbed wire fence should just not change her breathing or stiffen her body or feeling hopelessly when that same hospital reacts, open the gate and bends into her face and shouts her name until it is a hard and painful blast in her ear. Instead she looks up at his face glowed with futile anger, and calmly waits for whatever comes next. Because this is one thing that neither the ascii northwich nor this stupid soul doctor staring at her with a gaping mouth. Well, never will ever know that she is here or would daughter of fos, ceiling, gayety, feared guard of the shadow king. And she is no longer afraid of what men can do to women like her. Thank you. If people dont go get them, but now theyre never going to get the vote. This is identity. Shes an assistant english professor and she has afan a question for you by any go ahead. African women are we clearly in the, in place in history through early trade show that centers, women, as principal actors in historical narratives. Its important to know that this is a far cry from another leg, actually because things fall apart where women seem to be generally oblivious about the changes taking place around them. To date what we have seen, the historical fiction written by African Women are female characters who are deeply aware of the forces shaping their world and the impact of the air on actions on this forces. Absolutely, absolutely. We have katrina we have Jennifer Mccombe and there is a line of women writing who are centering women. I think its partly for the fact that we know that we have been there and we have always been there. And the stories have not been a shifting of any lens, but really just cleaning it off so that we can see whats actually been there all along. Most of whats really obvious from where you choose to share your thoughts you would show is that you inspire a lot of people. Let me show you what maazel did. A few hours ago, she said, im going to be on stream. How do you answer this question . This was the question that we asked about black in african workers, how they write, working to reclaim their narratives. And the response goes on and on, and on a what i got from this was that people who were already doing it, they did the permission. They did this, you need inspiration. But this one phenomena was really nice. A funny artsy is the time that he came to syracuse and you help me be part of my answer. You were like, you could just say your parents, a gun in which i was being clearly and weird about for some reason. And something to me just being myself was ok inspired to be full. Thank you for being on the stream today. Months in getting you know, thank you so much of the shadow. Thank you to everyone who joined in. Thank you. Its been a pleasure chatting to you. Thank you very much. Thank you. This wraps up the streams book club. Its been fun to see you next time. Thanks so much and everybody. Bye for now. Business leaders is both to buy no brass. Paul Business Leaders does want to buy no brass. Pox coded 19 is a Public Health crisis that has been compounded by capitalism. 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