Bidens electoral victory there. They issued a statement after meeting with President Trump saying the states city of occasion process should be free from threats and intimidation from the white house. Well, its not a great couple of hours for the term campi than those around him. A hope that you can overturn the results either by taking legal action or by getting legislators to not follow the normal procedures. So this meeting, we dont know exactly what happened in the meeting. Even afterwards from 2 Senior Republicans from michigan certainly indicate they had nothing from donald trump. That would change the result of the election in michigan and that they are going to press ahead. The u. N. Secretary general has warned that yemen is inching closer to the worlds worst famine in decades. And turning to terrorist call for immediate action to stave off a catastrophe. Yemenis are already suffering after more than 6 years of war. With terrorists reduced relief, funding and a crumbling currency are obstructing efforts to avert a famine. Ugandan opposition politician bobby weiner has been released on bail after being charged over actions likely to spread coronavirus. Police say at least 37 people have died in protests, sparked by his arrest on wednesday. The United States recorded 2015 coronavirus deaths on thursday. Its the 1st time his daily death count as crossed the 2000 mark since may. I mean, well, pharmaceutical company, pfizer and its german partner biotech, have filed emergency authorization in the United States for their code 19 vaccine. If the request is approved, the vaccine could be available within weeks. Those, the headlines, the news continues here on out of there after inside story. A decade of war. Now, a pandemic with 19, a spreading fast and syrias last rebel held province, particularly among displaced people in overcrowded camps. So can Health Workers prevent another humanitarian disaster . This is inside story. Hello and welcome to the program. Much of the world is battling to contain the coronavirus pandemic. Its even more challenging in syria. Years of war have destroyed the health system. The few hospitals left operating are struggling to cope with the rising number of infections and in the last rebel held province of idlib, social distancing and frequent hand washing are nearly impossible for displaced people in overcrowded camps. Victoria gate and be reports it province has been battered by the syrian conflict and now in its 10th year, the last rebel controlled glave in the northwest is home to nearly 4000000. People most depend on aid to survive and many live in makeshift shelters in camps for the displaced it live reported its 1st Coronavirus Infection in july. Since then, the number of people infected has increased rapidly. This on my last 5 to 10 years of dealing with bombing casualties and the targeting of health facilities. The coronavirus pandemic has really increased the burden on us if cases of cover 19 continue to increase. The Health Sector will completely collapse it live has 8 hospitals that can treat 1000 patients, but the u. N. Says 7 are already overwhelmed. And each one is desperately short of the quick meant. There are 142. 00 i. C. U. Beds and 155. 00 ventilators, to cover the entire region. The names of the beds in the intensive care unit are completely full. We have around 30 pads, all of which are occupied with patients upstairs. We have another department with 30 beds and we have 30 patients in that department to. 6 the outbreak has mostly affected adlib city safe, but the fear is the virus could spread to overcrowded camps where social distancing is difficult to be reconsidered. The situation is. Ready very worrying, admit, didnt want to stand through that, we have, we are in 90 percent of Better Company theory. It is very, very hard to be doing because you know, they have a system to increase the number of but they dont really know for the patients. And critically patients is a very, very reduced. So we are really worried about this negotiation in india. The grade of r. s pandemic has severely tested the worlds best health care services. Syria is destroyed by years of war is facing. Biggest challenge yet, victory caisson be out there. All right, lets bring in our guests from it live in syria. Is dr. Sanity the, a cardiologist at a hospital that supported by Islamic Relief from my money in jordan, im judge, director of advocacy for save the children syria response and from norman oklahoma. Is joshua landis, director of the center for middle east studies at the university of oklahoma. And editor of the syria comment blog. Thank you all for joining us and send let me start with you today. Why is there such a sharp rise in the number of covert 1000 cases in liberate . Now, intent the number of cases is not the true number. The number of these much more cases because of all patients who are running from is the drug and suspected the 19 do yes. And many in that dog there are and the gun to that hospital. He goes, some are afraid of going to the going to centers. You heard a sound, theyre talking about the fact that there is concern that the number of cases right now is, does not accurately reflect the number of people that are infected. What are the steps that are being taken to limit the spread of coven 1011 in other parts of Northern Syria . Thank you so much for this one. So we, we have another human agencies are trying very hard to try and limit the spread of covert starting from implementing some of the w. H. O. Measures in schools and hospitals in even now own programming. So for example, where we do a new addition work, we traditionally would have 10 people in the same room as said, we cut down on that to make sure that, that there is enough safe distance in full coke people. Essentially, senate only in education we have, weve closed a lot of the face to face education and activities and decide to substitute, seen in some of the more creative, well more innovative ideas. But sadly, the situation remains very of a difficult for families. We are, as of today is the best number we have is that is that east 1150 different settlements or sites where people live in tents and camps. And they cannot possibly have the big cities to satisfy sedation. They need them in the hygiene amitie, and they need to maintain and have some of some of the appropriate measures that they need to take to prevent all this at the stage of the virus. So we dont mean in a place where there are high needs, high levels off of contact between people. And even if you block all the different sepsis people who still need to continue to live to eat true to wet. And its sadly a very, very different situation for the families right now. And city joshua, despite the truce in there, is still intermittent fighting on the ground. There is there, i mean, how fragile exactly is the situation right now . The situations pretty fragile. Turkey has put in many more reinforcements, but the Syrian Regime is eager to continue to put pressure on its lid. And if its determined to take back the entire province, eventually russia seems to be backing this syrian, the syrian desire. Although its interested in keeping the truce, but as weve seen, turkey has pushed ahead in libya and are going to go. And this is upset in russia. Russia is using invalid as the Pressure Point for turkey because its turkeys vulnerable. Its a vulnerable position for turkey. Yes, and when it comes to the spread of covert 19, what are the hardest hit areas and they are the hardest hit areas, the cities or are the hardest hit areas, the camps for the displaced people. Unfortunately, the oil is fairly right now. All the artists only just are says and this is hands. I think he mentioned that in the house a solution. Hes also how it is alyson selves meet with elites. d why didnt we other members of the senate of the house, the know the situation or may situation cant get us the big deal. Now the situation is nearly under control back. Thats not the total. The police know that the situation now is nearly 2 blue agent. The number of cases more men and now the. d number of deaths, the number of there is right through a fence will be of what was it like now, what is it now . And i want to try to just take a step back for our viewers, and how do you explain just how traumatic things are for the children in italy banned in Northern Syria. I mean, you have, of course, the trauma that they faced for so many years when it comes to the violence. And now you have this, this dread. And this other form of trauma, which is because of the spread of covert 19, how are they handling all of this . How do they cope with it . It is sadly as United States, it is a very, very difficult times the children inside of city and particularly northwest city at the moment. And we use that is the law on consent and in terms of the news. But with were hearing today that there are, has been the cases of that in northwest city among children. And these, if confound the past cases of deaths in among children in northwest city. And it just sammys all in this situation where they now have to balance how to feed themselves to feed their own children, the tectum sense of virus and some how to cover a from years and years of active conflict, you still look at more than 1500000. People in northwest city hall law still displace the asked the hundreds of not thousands of them who have no place to live in. So we start seeing children displays signs of trying to cope with all of this, but without any of the forces necessarily available that helps them deal with this. We hear heartbreaking stories from children who either live with say, 111 pedophiles that theyve been waiting for for months if not longer. And weve met children whove lived in a destroyed car with no parents until weve managed to find them to a to another tenet of solution. And its, its a very difficult time for them when they have to balance. I dont have a physical school to go to, i also dont have enough food to eat, and i need to go to school. But at same time i need to feed my sense. Or even sometimes in some cases, even richer than just too young to take in the 6 possibility. They have to feed themselves and that one families. And you end up in this situation where some, a 12 year old would been working within the last few months. Ive been working throughout the day, been studying in the, even the, and its just not a situation you want children, law, even children on that tend to find themselves in, joshua, if the truce completely collapses, if all out fighting resumes once more. How much worse does that make the situation . And would it be possible to see the escalation efforts again . Well, you know, as, as your other, as your other speakers have been saying, poverty is the real poverty and chaos. The lack of Political Organization are the real killers here, and weve just heard this morning that naipaul is cutting, cutting back on on its efforts to limit covert. Its going to cut isolation centers. Its cutting all kinds of vaccination. Im not vaccination is cutting the Testing Centers because it says it cant afford to do them any more. And its going to save us money for the vaccine because it cant afford to to buy the vaccine and to distributed amongst people. So thats happened in uganda, nepal and many other poor countries. If you take Something Like like syria and italy, provinces, where there is really no centralized health care where there is chaos. And there is this threat of continued warfare. Its out of control. And theres really very little that central authorities can do. People are living cheek by jowl in the same confined spaces. Once one Family Member gets that they can isolate it from anybody else. And thats, thats the real terrible problem is, is that desperate poverty and war only makes it worse. What kind of pressure is being put on the Health Sector there right now . How close to collapse is the Health Sector and innit. We know that in the area or song and if we have the situation, in fact, this tractor still leak and the displaces the large amount of displacement. People in a 1000000 people are going out in an ellipse. There arent any center, its just they have one primary care since our and these may then shoots or 3000 or 30000 regional. The nearest hospital may see them suffer and dont supply the goods health care for. And then also the ones in centers where peoples ice, you act, they are just a little bit counterargue. Will we be 90 in all . Will it go to 90 the formal myself . I since might need more still in hospital about unfortunately not an empty bed for him. And hes saying to the next, he was not nervous. I think you know, youre writing fiction was so much severe is situations here are his son did his best to be the embattled syrian and thats all he can do. Unfortunately was that the situation at the station is not cases so he doesnt say that. d he is not going to be 6 or 8 months and 90 im did, i want to also take another step back and look at the conditions in, in the informal settlements in, i mean, the world right now continues to tell populations to social distance when youre talking about the displaced when youre talking about refugees in overcrowded settlements. That is something thats nearly impossible to do. How are children, how are their parents protected against this virus at a time when they live in conditions so dire that something as simple as social distancing is pretty much impossible for them . And this is specifically the problem is right now. We just saw a last week being flooded. People have to take everything that will get somewhere and try to find a new place to live. In the meantime, they have to escape explosive weapons. We just released that quote. This week that says, bill, believe it or not only on stevia 25 children, a date are dying from explosive weapons for the last few years. And city a is, is one of the many major countries in which children are being killed by explosive weapons. So you the child in it, in northwest city at a bail in that you have to escape for your life. Some from can supply to them. You have to find a place to live, the u. N. Your family with, but a little comic resources. Theres nowhere. We all know how they can amaze, looking like now a city as a people dont have enough food. And then they find a tentative that gets eventually gets flooded. And at the same time theyre trying to sort of distance it does. Were almost impossible to deal with all of that at the same time. We see in the countries where the situation is more statement, they are still struggling to deal with school that families them sense of dont know. Instead they have to deal with it entirely. And then you put a child them in that has been under, under bombardment for years, has been displaced, maybe 10 times the last 2 or 3 years. That campus been spotted and they have no place to go to. And they have to outwait him. Im more scared of the virus or in my mils, that is the need for me and i need to escape and this camp. So it becomes, its an impossible that families have to deal with and, and they just simply try to get the best out of it. That they come, joshua where do things stand right now when it comes to the opposition and their fighters in adelaide at the moment. You know, the opposition is in terrible disarray and weve, weve seen constant fighting between the various factions. Turkey is trying to organize them. And bring them under control. But a lot of the fighters dont want to fall under turkish control and weve seen al qaida and other branches had acid being breakaway from the main group highest ahead of him. Weve seen other, other fighting groups split and fight amongst each other as they, as they begin to decide, are they going to work for the turks . Are they going to try to remain independent and, and not work with the turks. But increasingly, the area is desperate and people have to fall in line with the turks. But as they do that, they get accused of being you know, proxies for another government. And they, the revolutionary objectives are increasingly falling away. Is personal protective equipment available to the population in libya . I mean do people there have access to masks and Hand Sanitizer and other supplies and there are always you go and its not windy at a global all of the us. d starts showing the sounder barracks in a moment, or at the center. For example, i suppose of my friends in the army as it is very hostile, there is not in center or in their lives easy, and its an active stand there. Unfortunately, the protective, theres another death if it werent standard for the people, we will gain by mosque, just mosques, and the stores and the sure. But you want people to buy the mosque or wherever they want to eat mosque, he will be, are even angered. People are lying back. So go and buy a mosque is not, its not scam been going to be embarrassed. This joshua, it looked to me as though you were nodding along to some of what your son was saying. Did you want to add to . Well, the point he was making well the point he is making, which is that the situation is, is theres really very little that can be done to stem the spread of coronavirus. And, you know, i think my son just had coronavirus here, but we were able not to become affected. In fact, as a family because he had his own room and he could, weve managed to find a bathroom for him to go to and we delivered the food to his door and for for over 2 weeks. Thats the way he lived. But if youre living 10 people to a small shelter, theres no way you can do that. The infection is just going to run rampant through the entire place. And thats, you know, thats the desperation. Its the poverty that, that stops any of these mitigating efforts to be carried out that can, that can stall the spread. And as a cold weather comes in, we are seeing the spread really pick up. And its only in places like we just heard that france has turned the corner a teeny bit on this spread and other european countries. But in places like the United States, its continuing to go up day by day. Were breaking records every single day. And thats because the cold weather is coming in, and people are getting exhausted with trying to fight this virus. So really, the hope is for this vaccine to come down, but how will a place like it live, get the vaccine when theres no money and all the rest, the rich countries are fighting for it. Joshua 1st of all, i hope your son is doing better. Let me also ask you about a glad to hear that about a point you were making when it comes to the international community. Do you feel that they are stepping up at all when it comes to the Syrian People or have they just abandoned them . You know, increasingly, unfortunately, the Syrian People are being forgotten and you know, were hearing the United States is trying to shift to asia. Its theres debate about where our policy should be in syria. And i think this is, this is true for the entire european community. Weve just seen a focus on lebanon, lebanon has much stronger and better relations with the european community. And, and theres division, the jordanians need help. The lebanese need help. Turkey is just putting in new, new actions to stop the spread of code. So syria increasingly is being forgotten. Once isis has the spread of isis, its been tamped down. Increasingly, its unclear what the country, what europe and United States and the rest of the, the western worlds policy is towards syria. I want to talk about just how difficult it is getting aid into northwestern syria and not just now. I mean, even before this pandemic, it was extremely difficult. Could you, could you talk our viewers through the logistics of trying to get such much needed supplies to such a desperate population as your i. Q. Pointed, it has always been difficult and it has gotten to humility hot that since july of this year, when the crosscourt, it is lucian to move to one of 2 Border Crossings that we could have used. The falls live in humanitarian aid. Now were looking at supplies that could come from anywhere from the west, but they need to go or only through one Border Crossing thats we are allowed to use. So the u. N. Security council resolution, if you look at today to deliver aid into areas in live for example, study into a leper, for example, that a bit fat east within northwest. You could need to drive for more than 20 hours just to get basic supplies in because the political scene that was closer to that has been removed. And this is an issue we see right now in city across as the International Attention on city is decreasing. So is the funding and so is the political tension. So then the discussions around humanitarian needs become entirely more politicized, where its decisions are no longer being mean based on what people eat, but rather based on the politics of the different states that are involved in city area. We currently have startling to be teachers satins, when you need them the most, for example, for us to be able to reach children nowadays, we need, we send teachers what we will do more by teachers. We, instead of having the children come to the school and because of the impossibility of such an distancing that we started sending teachers to consumers to help them, at least not to some of the gains they made in the education. But then use baby teachers saturday because you are particularly underfunded. We just have a couple of minutes left. Let me just ask you to expand on a point that you were making before how risky is it right now for Health Care Workers in adlib . Are they becoming infected at high rates as well, with covered 1000 you know, there are patients. Well these are and they are the more. d people, while these are artists to learn that is not under you know, me or a loser, and you know me, doors and nurses and nubian were killed while these actions, for example, in days ago, doctors are, as it was, there is some to be going right. Doesnt its not that goes the sounds of the day and the next day he was dead. So many horrible easter effectors many miles into her, the rays that just a few have severe sentence and the, you know, nerves flare and fortunately the healed by east action. Im sorry, i said weve actually just run out of times were going to have to leave the conversation there. But thanks so much to all of our guests for joining us today. Dr. Sanity the m j. D. I mean, and joshua landis, and thank you 2 for watching, you can see the program again. Any time i visiting our website at 0 dot com and for further discussion, go to our facebook page. Thats facebook dot com, forward slash a. J. , inside story. You can also join the conversation on twitter. We are at, at a. J. , inside story for me, and the whole team here in doha. I find out talk to al jazeera. Were school realistically. How can you do it . Institutionalize corruption in this country. We listen. If this breaks up until conflict between august and india, this has implications for the rest of the world. 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