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Welcome to the stream, the home edition on todays episode of lucky to be looking at conflict. This new regional part of the i want to remind you how this conflict got started. How to look at this. Just over 2 weeks ago, ethiopian Central Government launched a military offensive against the local ruling party. Prime minister, abby ahmed, accuse that party the t. P. M. Of attacking a military base. A t. P. M. Left dominated ethiopian politics for decades until abby came to power in 2018 when the party in 1900 been persecuting them, and purging them from government and the military. The conflict incented on the ticker, a region which the t. P. M. Governs. According to the united nations, hundreds of people have been killed and thousands of refugees have fled into sudan. Assume much to talk about today. We have a humanitarian disaster. The t p l f. And the routes that ethiopia could go to peace. If youre watching on you, and you will be part of this conversation, jump into the Comment Section to my theory. Best get your comments into today. Let me bring in todays guess i will say hello to them and they will introduce themselves to you. Welcome back to the street. Well, remind, remind everybody who you are and what you do. Think of finding your family. Im from washington. This works for a second rise. Its good to have you back in the stream is of no use in mind. Everybody who you are and what you do. Its nice to see you again. If i meet someone is a kind of salon and im a freelance journalist and i write primarily for course, mail and guardian and the telegraph. I miss a bet edition sell to a global audience. Thank you very for having me. My name is miss him, but i said, i teach art school through some professor and i write on politics and what we need to thank you. Its good to have you hate gentlemen feel so welcome. Today i spoke to belaying c. E. O. Shes the press secretary for Prime Minister of the meds. And we, in our conversation with talking about some very key issues about what is happening right now, including when a Peace Process might start. This is what she told me. The Prime Minister and the federal government made a decision to make this operation, this rule of Law Enforcement operation, the degree region there were 3, actives and one of the critical objectives at this point was to disarm the g. P. L. If an amends, they have been in possession of weaponry. And there has been efforts by the n. D. S. To disarm them or radio to the position and to make targeted military strikes on where the you are not of the arsenals. So this is a priority right now, and also part of the prior increased also bringing these perpetrators to justice. So once that is that the plea and ones that are in government command, then the negotiations and the other on recessions could happen because there has been a beary track record on the part of the Prime Minister to dialogue with the p. L. F. And it is not as the International Media or in the National Community is making it out, which we have to be very careful about. That narrative is that there has been a continuous transgression of the part of the champion of 2 or right or not to send to any of the m. P. Of that have been made by the federal government and personally by the, by the Prime Ministers wife decries a couple of things jumped out at me from that conversation. One was rogue elements, the other ones bring perpetrators to justice. And then the 3rd, who is putting the blame for the conflict very firmly at the door of these rogue elements of the t. P. M. That what stood out for you world, whether they are a rogue elements or not. And im not, i dont see there, there being any space for the dialogue that she says will follow the end of the conflict. Considering that the to be a lot has been completely outlawed as an organization. All of its members face arrest simply for being affiliated with the organization. So whether its the rogue elements or whatever remaining elements there might be. It is very clear that there wont be any space for dialogue. There wont be any space for any roundtable talks for things like what might the future of to growing be what will its place in egypt in society be after this power and how will the various political entities rehabilitate the 30000. 00 or so europeans from to grab what fled into neighboring sudan. There is, there is a lot that remains to be discussed. Wasnt addressed in her one or 2 minute briefing, that she is 11 years old has really had a we had a much longer conversation by feel at the moment. This idea about when peace may actually go, since it was very important. And which is why i wanted to stand up in particular with you, miss betty. The idea of there being friction between the government and the Regional Government. If the t. P. M. Left, this is going on for such a long time. Why are we now in a conflict . Well, there are many reasons i think, why the conflict it was obviously as you know, the e. P. Out of dave, which for them and it was so hard to cross and which that g. P. L. If was it part there would be to about 4 or 2 years. It was a very brutal dictatorship and it had very serious human, massive Human Rights Violations that have done that made very serious corruptions out in my sleep scale. So as you know, but before 2018, there were many protests in many regions of ethiopia for demanding for political change in the country that happened only a sleazy pierre de, if had lost any, you know, ideology, kind of out of its great state and coming into part of the yamit in 2018 was exactly to create a kind of a new kind of put excited dispensation in the country trying to sort of some of the, deep seated problems in the country. So owned quietens that for them as a p. R. , it gave continued new prosperity parties at mr. Abbey homage, formit. And typically every 3. 00 to 2. 00 mechelen. So its significant that in difference in terms of how they want to resource deposits, cutlets in the country, thats what its tactical, basically sort it to people. If it was not ready, its very tragic. I mean, for more than 40 years of political support, its very existence in this country. It has never tried to reorient itself to change in some kind of political change, which the country needed actually, urgently sort, little and on any idea, put ideological change. If you see even that person, the people that, that leaves his party for 40 years as a state. So its really breaks my heart because for anyone or observing that what if you could change in the country in egypt was already for the lines. The country in the country. You know, change was needed and it was all this apparent as a country our strength in july. You dont change by i hear anything or as he says, listening to you as well. This comes from him. How does that add new chief . Thank you for being part of this conversation. Nelson ethiopians with us today of course, is the now it is t. P. L f. Is the aggressor in this conflict, correct . Does the t, p l f have any genuine grievances aluna you pick up without one place . Ok, well in fact, the provocation was made by the federal government for the last 2 years. It has talked to dry roads that connect originalist for the rest of the country was broke for 3 years. And there was disagreement between it behoved, if hes wearing the party and forming a coalition and new coalition party. So that means if i dont say that he believed us for vulcan and the conflict that we are witnessing now, i dont even agree with what precisely 30 off the primaries to try to claim calling this conflict. Law enforcement operation is a joke for me. What is transpiring on the ground right now as we speak is actually a civil war, a civil war expanding to a regional conflict that in what was the Syrian Government . Now we have heard the us to be a villages, into guy using dross. So we can, you cannot say like this, this is just a Law Enforcement operation that has transplant for the last 2 weeks, almost now on the 3rd week. So there is, you know, distortion of facts. What we are always missing right now is kind of little doubt refined. And you know, if i may, im going to bring in another voice because another voice from outside it ethiopian in the aspirins is very vocal in this conversation. Its very hard for us to get forces from, with in ethiopia, because of things on going come out, signed whats not spent the pinion see sicker. And this is what she told us about what is happening right now in her country. The war thats been waged against the people have to go is having a devastating effect. People are fleeing their homes in the thousands to the sudan because theyre being indiscriminately bombed because theyve lost access to basic needs. What were seeing here is an impending genocide. We need to all speak up, we need to use our voices, our platforms to speak up against war because no one is going to benefit. So could i assume the journalists point of view, which you agree was sick of them to theyre looking at a genocide. Is this civil war or is this war . How would you define the ends . Well i think over the past 2 weeks there have been a number of claims and counterclaims us to exactly what has transpired in ethiopia. What was the instigating cause for the military clashes . Broke out on november 4th, first thing for us, there are no internet or phone services to the entire region. So there is absolutely no way to independently corroborate the claims that are left for instance, just made. What we can say is this is that for war it takes 2 sides to tango. And the grain in general going to chorus of selfmade, you know, halfords to cool things down. Or we have, we have one of the insides more than 50 or in size until hes imprisoned. And you know this lot, i dont guilty of exacerbating the tension there of every other missions. And when theres a lead to war, it requires that it required both sides. The objectivity and there are some rising starts. So uncompromising stances are one of the great sides of the mission between the not Regional Government and the great and the federal government in addis ababa. So hopefully with the restore ation of internet services. Over the course of the next few weeks, maybe months, a journalist will have a better chance that are determining what led to what . And obviously the breakout of the horrific a military conflict and the and sowing humanitarian disaster. Moon does it amount to nonhumanitarian. I mean, theres a point to, there is a new and in that i am clearly just going to gunpoint and im going to go yonder in atlanta man, because i know what is ahead if they want dollars and 1500 hours or so to get it in. If he has more than 51000. 00, if they are in prison right now, as we speak in our days, how are you going to justify this one . As i think i will exact the record. Not that im sure if i do anything, im sorry, i dont know what it really you know . Surely i dont know if we have interviews where i was enjoying or not. You really cant be so much of a son to tell them. You can also feel that youre all talking at the same time to them to school time out, or write a new finish, just a sentence. Ok. Ok, we have this concrete evidence from the interNational Community in the International Media was a sort of 2000 civilians have fled their country and crossed the border to sudan. They are suffering from humanitarian crisis right now as we speak right now. I see that save lives, and i dont, im going to corroborate that with what i have here on my laptop that i can share with him since hes the head of the un. And thats the uns refugee agency, more than 25000. 00 refugees. And while frankly, the tikrit region of ethiopia to sudan, messam that this speaks to the issue with military action and the impact that has on civilians tool to us about exactly how per pan, but its the federal government to take care of civilians. Well then doing this hacky on where theyre looking for perpetrators and bringing them to justice in their words. Yeah, its very tragic. I mean, we should not be very objective of whats happening and when there are bad things, obviously we should be very sympathetic to the state. I dont think we should always to excites, you know, one in this kind of conflicts. So its really breaks my heart to see more than 20000, people out of, you know, refugees now currently going to sudan, mostly to grandstand or so some had us as well because the border area. I dont know how the boys ethnic groups living got around here sort of, its very tragic and the, the condition integrate is very tragic because this particularly, you know, is it, you know, its complex for many years. I myself, my family live in 2000 part of the great my family thought lives. Tom, part of my family fought for many years, but its good for many years. So we feel very sympathetic again. And of course, the government should trade as much as its come to provide humanitarian support and provide humanitarian access. But nevertheless, i think we should not of those claims of genocide claims of it, it can sink. I mean, i would be responsible. What if thats what its our position. I dont know. Its not, its this. No, no, no, please, please, i do not. You know, were not going to cause a lot of this is not going to do justice or that people have to go away. Im still here. d its not only that you had on to the last of the young to care about the people of the grass agenda has to see that they dont have some clarity of yes, im a citizen and theyre not going to, im going to raise, i mean, you know, you know my life as we could at the end when i am cannot. Thank you for a moment. The way you see it, because were going to let you come into this conversation as well. Marise marise, make a point. You know, you did not finish your plate in the beginning as you watched in there, finish, you know, finish your sentence. You know, my point was and i will have to. Yeah, im just saying, talking about ethnic cleansing, genocide is absolutely out of the picture. This is very dangerous that you needed and i have like, i have like even though you were at the end of the conflict, i did that. Dont believe the way i said, but you know, you like to me just bring him, are slim, bring him us. We could mississippi a conversation with our audience as well. Morris says, do you think the marginalization of the tea, great people, parenthesis, which i dont agree ever happened, and not justification for attacking the minute she front, stationed in the region and stealing military weapons. How are you going to just defy the killings by the army in the thousands any of the countries in . Well i, for example, 75 civilians, innocent of being killed by the military thing one day. And how are you going to just fight just before todays 7, or was it me or i must have been killed by the military in the area of the leg up in a district called i feel how are you going to justify this . Is it because he was attacked in initiative when he said he wasnt ok . I said, are you there inside your nation is letting Syrian Government you say come on here is a, it will have to be objective. You know, you have to take your pick your, i dont know what you cannot do. I dont know. You dont get a lot. You dont have to answer. Yeah, i have my, im always going to look at him. I can guarantee you, i know youre just really good, but just my family, you dont even know. We let you know what we can do. Our kids was not moaning. You can also want to play dates. What we hear is that you come through very distinct points. We hear that i dont hear every word youre saying, but we hear that your very many disagree with each other and yet we push, but we kind of give you a certain point. You know, what perhaps should i not cemetery . So yeah. Gentlemen, you know, now we are going to have needs in this show. I do not want to waste moola. Ok. Its concerned about how we get to peace. I walk my, it happened if you 2 our war inc, this in conversation and theres a regional war going on in ethiopia. What is going to look like by the end of it, his 1000000 syrians. We are 5th through that part of that is more or its all going to come for one of the greatest part and bodies around me that its likely its going to need for some time if the order are gone for a longer period. I fear that there will be a massive humanitarian crisis, a mighty good economy, we could do you market out of the country, really vendor for your guy who does internet . If theyre going to, how survive this conflict . I dont think i dont see the gravity and i was a variation of this secor i asked the vet isnt a concern so that when i spoke to Prime Minister sufis was, was not even on their radar. Was like, thats never going to happen if you will Stay Together from the sources that your going to the picking up. What are they saying about the future at this point of your country . Well, i mean, i guess thats the crux of the problem, isnt it . Its not even on their radar. I think we need to come to grips with the fact that this war will definitely have a do a sitting impact on the social fabric of the country. I mean, were hearing reports of atrocities. Mass killings in towns like my cut there are from refugees who are landing in sudan. Meanwhile, in the capital city, only days ago, youre seeing parades, and near celebrations, calls for outright support of the military, despite the relative impunity with which they are conducting their operations. Are there is the sympathy that mettenberger referred to, thats of all the other words you need to realize that there are communities suffering there entire population of suffering. There, there in there are, there will be, there will not be any winners in this war. There will be a lot of losers and theyll be a lot of heavily impacted populations. Are we on a concentrated effort to try to sort of relieve them of their agony . Not even in terms, not even in, not even indexed in words, not even. There has been and there hasnt been any open express of solidarity cause for restraint from our own armed forces. And this a guest shows how the viewpoints of under different communities can trust a great leader. And i think the concerns are expressed are and are, are based on, i mean theres, theres a way to these claims, i would say, so really go to my laptop here gentlemen, because i want to show you some of the International Concern that im seeing right, now. Since this is the u. N. , a high commissioner for human rights concern here about there should be a ceasefire. This is prism 70 of uganda. It is an ethiopian. If we dont come to some kind of peace agreement, the entire continent of africa, it have a bad image. That tweet was deleted. And then this is from the African Union. But i believe even when you delete a tweet, you probably still mean this is when the African Union in africa need in our asking for the immediate cessation of hostilities. And then from the Prime Ministers own account meeting here, with officials in rwanda singing about peace and security. So International Forces that are involved are concerned. Im going to ask you briefly maisonette. What difference does that make to a Peace Process . It doesnt make it here is difference, i think obviously with if this war drags on for a longer time, obviously the International Pressure for a peaceful settlement, which it would be much more greater because obviously the humanitarian situation in the ground would be also catastrophic. Saw it all, depends on how manageable this conflict would be if the federal government, as we hear it, if the advice and if they try to neutralize the situation much earlier, then the social would be much to cover. But obviously the concern of the interNational Community is very understandable because if youre tragic for many reasons, its a cancer for more than 110000000. 00 people, People Security wise, it has significant ramifications for the entire region. So these concepts are very understood and but of it, the problem is, and i know you talk people talk about peace. But the problem is people, it has only a bad name, and im sorry to say this because so there may be a better one. Im not living that i suppose, as you very few lays out until your analysis. Were right at the end of the show. And gentlemen, if you would allow me to wrap it up. But im going to do that with a voice from the t. Gray community here feel that their concerns are not being that. Have a listen to tekla. According to these, to express my support to the, to go people and government who are at war against a dictator who has been destroying bombs on them. Killing, according to reports of hundreds of people and subjecting people in the thousands to flee to neighboring countries, likes to call on the interNational Community to step in. And of her a crisis if left unchecked, could send the whole new puppy got into the darkness. Im going to give the last voice to after a vibrant community on this conversation, not goes to liz rainey. She says its while to think that abby achmet just won the Nobel Peace Prize in 29. 00 t. And was in the year were discussing intense conflict in ethiopia. Gentlemen, im going to rest areas. Its a pleasure being very serious conversation. Thats very and i think thank you very much, vibrant conversation. It is not over yet. I am taking new audience to Instagram Live and let me tell you who im going to go there with sam. Do you really . 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