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Where every now and cable watching news stream home edition, jay leno looking like but like much of protesters and activists appealed to be on the plates. I mean, the question should be all of the talk to these. I know you have thoughts about the way in if you want to get into the comment section, each can be part of todays discussion. I wish to keep back teaching all states year when us so many that i protest people waiting in the streets. I want to get a sense of why or wanted to stay in particular, was from tasting against Police Brutality being tugged at people who were black and brown in the United States. So this is i dont hear if you had something, every member that was effected by the Police People are to turn up because it is literally years of oppression. Theres only so much people can take that are oppressed with this capitalistic society. All this, this is what i bring. This is exactly what it brings, better people. We dont want this to happen again. This is going to happen and bowed her head over and over again. So now were all here. Were doing exactly what they gave us. They gave us that we dont want to be out here. Thats my one protest and was out protesting just a couple of weeks ago. Let me guess because they understand what its like to protest. They are at least as well as being a break down. What is happening to cope just as annoying, slawson, and im like, oh, what he said, everybody can do. Hi. My name is michael and call. I serve as executive director of the prosecution project. And were a long term data science project focused on cataloging and understanding help Political Violence has prosecuted United States kids if you, michael maximo, welcome to the streaming studio south, tight international audience. Hello, my name is max and i live in arizona, a community organizer, long term around the issue of immigration and that intersection, that would, you know, there were to speaking about policing, criminalization, immigration . Thank you. And welcome back to aljazeera. Its really good to see you, please remind people who you are and what you do. My name is bruce franks jr. Ferguson for our activists now living in phoenix. Im a former elected Officials Say representative members are also have an amazing documentary where al jazeera and m r a virus, a large number are going to liberate our people. He said, we got to mention that document because in that documentary we see in much we see much these kind of the lines Matter Movement. When you walk out on testing, what are you seeing from you and force me . How can you explain to people what may well be happening to activists in the streets from whats happened in this, from my personal experience or from what ive seen is the fact that activists protesters organizers we have been the Accountability Measures for the system are force met for a very long time and they dont know how to handle that. And so they, you know, arrest us, they give us these trumped up charges in order to silence us. And i think thats what youve been saying is kind of his over forcing it. You know, i mean of side has said those who have voices and who are willing to speak up and be unapologetic and expanses. Michael essien articulate knows. I mean, i think were certainly seeing a lot of heavy handed prosecutions. And one of the things, i think a lot of us expected to track protests and protests really do. The arrests was we expected large scale mass demonstrations and large scale mass arrests. Somewhere that we saw in the earlier parts of 2017, but were actually not seeing that. What we are seeing is lots of people more than 300 people being arrested federally and being charged with pretty strong cases built against them. And then approximately, and this is a very hard number to estimate, but approximately 20000 people arrested throughout the United States on charges below the federal level. Makes an easy excuse, is you know what its like, can you know a little bit of that story, give us some insight about what its like to be and to use that to fling just on the other side of the influence. Yes. So at the end of, at the end of may when the pricing was beginning, i was actually arrested with a group of 114 people. The Police Department, local Police Department had absolutely no place and on how to process all of us. There was no plan and even what time it was, what the charges were basically just creating anything on the spot to write on this report. As bruce was just saying, trumped up charges that were there illegally arrests. I was actually a passenger in a vehicle driving off the protests during the time that the police just barricaded the whole entire neighborhood of one entire block. That was that people were out. And so there was no reason for a lot of the arrests. There was definitely the weapons are used and the 2 people drawn weapons that were there. So very an escalation that we have seen at least 2017 every single year. Now we have in phoenix, i think the most Obvious Police and the nation. And so you know what, whats a directory does that say we dont address these issues now, where will it lead us the next 3 or 3. Ringback years from now, if this is not accountability thats not happened yet, it would have been huge and edition of voice into our conversation. This is rooted in a key who points to just number of months of playing chess and will make some very similar his toughness. Were 93 percent of protest associated with the times Matter Movement since the summer has been peaceful, meaning, demonstrators have been engaged in a violence fanless or looting. And yet, despite being overwhelmingly a Peaceful Movement beyond protests have been met with Government Intervention more frequently relative to other protests and relative to transplant center. In the thirtys are using force like tear gas pepper spray record all. Its well over half the time when responding to these protests, which is a really significant increase relative to trying to solve last summer. And in some contexts, like and or at least for example, this really heavy handed Police Response has actually inflamed sentients and increase the rest that while escalation michael, these heavy handed response, i always feel really naive, even even articulate to get by. I dont want to say it myself. Why is these happening . Its a black ice matter trying to this is that predominately people of color out there on the streets . People who support that . Why is this such issue of force against them and 93 percent using that, that are completely nonviolent time to us . I mean, its always hard to interpret how, you know, why these things are occurring. Certainly one of the things weve noticed is that the framing in terms of the media and a lot of politicians is this notion of violent black lives matter. Activists pliant violent and teach violent and archivists. But what were actually seeing is that most of the demonstrations and most of the crimes are occurring that are being prosecuted or are property crimes where were not seeing wide scale assault charges. Were not seen wide scale physical violence. So it does seem though that the agenda of arresting people in these particular cases and in building use particular prosecutions for the protection of property. Which is why we see more people in indicted for you know, arson charges, for example, as compared to Unlawful Assembly charges or more and more traditional charges that weve seen. And the demonstrations. One of the things that i think has brought this to a lot of our attention and a lot of people are finding this particularly odd, is that the traditional ways in which protests are policed and prosecuted. For example, on Lawful Assembly charges or disorderly conduct, charges are not what were seeing. And instead were seeing people indicted for, you know, are significant interstate commerce, which is a far harder charge to defend against than Something LikeUnlawful Assembly. Which we just heard, saluted by replays from the commission. And i think what they are sharing with the public if he coached and website. And this is quite stunning, the number of life, much attention as a many people watch the street and they look how many friends is that just gradually fooling away to get to increase the list. A few, a few maxon can speak to that. This is a right and i want to touch to instituting an essay by eric ward where he means i have to, which is sort of here in america, the more liberal, you know, fighting for human rights and sort of becoming this racial racial. I swear to policing people of color and the escalation around that in the numbers around that. And so we saw a really this peak of folks are coming out speaking around their rights. People are coming out for the 1st time. And really what we have seen is that there are these arrests, they are actually and to trying to intimidate and silence a lot of the voices that were out on the streets and other i think i can mount for myself. I am a doctor recipient, which means i am not a u. S. That is saying, i am permitted to be here and work in the u. S. But when i was arrested, i was transferred to immigration and i was at the urging of ending up in a Detention Center and ultimately facing deportation. And so all these risks and you know, that, that puts a different mindset of like am i going to go out and protest, use my voice and speak out about whats happening and what were seeing. And thats all to attack, you know, to create fear, to silence and normal try to normalize what were seeing, which is not something that should be happening. And were going to continue to use our voice in a variety of planes. But you know, we see the impacts and the effects of the number of folks that come out and continue to to voice their concerns to see concise and then likely to come to an insight. When i ruin everything that maximus i think people like back here in phoenix, i think a person right. A young man who was hit on the pool and held in jail for a week for basically speed you know, in speaking out and having a strong voice. I think of folks like maxim activists and organizers here who, you know, have the ability to persecute you know, one thing that i say is that it doesnt just impact you. One way its this multifaceted impact on your livelihood, on your Mental Health. Especially for the folks as max was for, you know, for the folks who are just coming out here in making their voice heard for the 1st time, an external passion, they feel strong and they come out into the streets and a lot of them have never had a brush with Law Enforcement, a lot of them have never been arrested. So its curious that you know those most who maybe more seasoned or been through this, been through this and further are going to 6 years. So it doesnt affect me as much mentally as it would someone whos just stepping out here. And what they see is that our sense that you see a multitude of people from different backgrounds from different walks of life. And those folks will be scared because they havent had these brush brushes with Law Enforcement and thats exactly what theyre trying to do. d something that was there earlier when talk about these protests we were talking about, you know, this idea impeding traffic. I simply dont, i think back to st. Louis, where we were able to have a judge come down and say, hey, you cant deem something because you dont like working for us. And that directly infringes on your 1st or offered me their rights well as in traffic or obstruction of a basically block in this 3. Of those things that the police use in order to start these kind of domino effect of prosecuting and charges and so on. And so they use all these tactics to use all these terrorists and basically beat us down. But at the end of the day, even though we have 60 or 70 to make out whats he said is exactly right. I want to cling to is michael, go ahead and im going im going to jump in here because i want you to hear from an attorney. Cool. Johnson. Its what michael, thats what i just. Yeah, i want to say that. I mean, certainly we see the effects of these, that the chilling of dissent, the criminalization of protesters without question. You know, since, you know, midway into the obama administration, with 8201520168, lot of people have been paying more and more attention to these socalled anti protest laws. There are some good resources out there. People are tracking them, but what percent is exactly right. You know, we see these, you know, in a sense that prosecutorial farnese are raising the bar so that theres potentially higher and higher consequences for people coming into the streets. And so for those of us who have a higher tolerance for that because of experience, you know, maybe were still going to go. But for people who go out for the 1st time and see rubber, bullets and pepper spray and people around the been charged federally. And the chance of them coming out a 2nd time is very, very slim. I think thats entirely the intention of the scenes that to an attorney who john phillips, whos represented a number that like much to be some justice. And this is what he told us about the impact of 20 means sleepy by the police. If you will, that she just tasting. Weve represented several individuals whove been wrongfully arrested for simply protesting. Theyve been arrested from everything from being in the street to being on a public sidewalk, to actually filming the police. In each case, the charges were dropped, but the problem is, the stigma doesnt end there. The arrest record can stay on their background check. They may only have a limited number of expungement where that can be erased the employment ramifications, the personal ramifications, sic, even on these on lawful illegal and unconstitutional arrests. Police need to be held to a higher standard. He does, i want to do is happening at the same time as youre speaking to a t. V. Union. And i want to share some stills with you in an instant reactions that maxim since the majority of rice with justified because of the vandalism looting. Accenture dont put yourself in that situation, thats not the same back today. So i think its a very when the livelihood and literally the lives of everyday people in my community are at stake. Its really hard to not put myself or to take action and actually call on something thats, im just, theres murders happening like its, thats cannot and should never be normalized. And i also want to call the, you know, its like, why are we not questioning the actual abuse and use of lethal weapons that the police are using on people every day people. And we didnt see these attacks until we were actually caught calling on the they funding calling on the, you know, we have a lot of protected immunity where you cannot and theres no process to hold police accountable. And so its the accountability of the system that needs to shift and to be really this mountain in a different way. Its not, it was never meant at least here in the u. S. To protect people of color. And it still operates and works in that way. And thats what we should be questioning, not why the people are coming out and asking these questions, what its like, why is the police being allowed to do and continue to do . And this is police and thats Law Enforcement and all types of agencies all the across the country. Let me put this one to a who brian. Right . We need to insert science into the d. L. And peaceful protests. You dont have to agree with it. Im interested to hear your i mean certainly, you know, in your mix between the 300. 00 plus cases in which were tracking some of those are right wing cases. And some of those are what we can call left wing cases or demonstrators cases. So theres no question that there are right wing agitators. I dont buy the notion that, you know, in a sense theres clandestine agents either on the right or the left, stirring up violence going, i have, ive been a demonstration organizer and you know, for a further long time, i feel like i have a good grasp on how these things work because outside agitator, narrative, whether its coming from the right or in this case kind of for trying, there is a problem. I think its very problematic. The notion that outside people come in and rile people up has extremely racist and antisemitic connotations. And its not something that we should kind of parrot because it denies the whole agency not on a man. Its is factually inaccurate and has very little basis in reality. Jason di a swatch, hes only, she was low. Bruce, he wants to know what he sees the way forward for him with us as a society because i know youve been thinking about this that the way i see forward is Martin Luther kings looks and he do something not because its political, not, its safe, not because its popular, but because our conscience tells us right only very little. And in this idea of safety in the, in this idea of staying in the middle and we havent, we havent embraced things like defunding the police. And when we talk of black and brown communities, this will possibly affect the Law Enforcement. And we come out and say, how about we defund the police . How about we take money and put back into our communities and, and replace the resources that have been stripped out. The education jobs be access to Mental Health resources, whatever his own can ingest the issues and the inner community, the violence thats going on. And we can address that from the front end. There probably wont meet police that well, we dont need them, you know, coming into our communities and treating us like us on a. So the way for us to move forward is to understand that math is school that has to go to school where im sure its a school to say all these Different Things put into you show us our lives matter. Thats, you know, thats how were going to be able to move forward. We want to be able to move. People being willing to be uncomfortable. Come, youre silos. Come out of your, you know, rooftops and your high tech last apartment or wherever it is and come down to the streets, right at these conversations with we. Cuz if were not going to have a conversation, if were not going to address the issues that directly affect us, the only chance to move forward in the end. We also have to understand that not everybody is going to be able to fall. Some people need to be have and i think those little ways to, you know, that we can start to this england who fall, but i want to just a really quick way when, who is talking about the, the, those who show up and the vandalism. Its on a so what you cant compare to a window to toulouse through and when you talk about whether the folks on the folks on the right, if i organize a protest and theres a young brother there from, from the community, from the, from. And he decides to do a group through a window. What im going to do is im going to embrace him. I may not be the one drawn to great. I may not be the one condone it, but what im going to do, i want to embrace him because what i understand is more, im thinking, see a right and its a language of the unheard whos not listening to this young man. Because at the end of the day, in our communities, the police show up when we stand in a coma all of this militarized, they come with all these things only to protect property. If an athlete throws a gate or a bottle of cross and feel we say is passion. If college screws burn a car outside of a National Championship event, they get a slap on the wrist. But if a young black man, a young black woman, somebody of color breaks a window or sets a trash can on fire the end, they are domestic terrorists because they got sick because Law Enforcement, florida showed up in their community and decided to protect the property revenue and protect people as if they were supposed to know was a young man in farms. And we said in a meeting, he say, i wish i was a downs pound. I was going to downtown because what we saw is that mom force me showed up and put barricades around his downtown, and they showed up in force solely armor to protect this downtown millions of black folks that are half a mile away that are going through extreme challenges and various nobody shows up to protect them. So i dont want to hear bricks through a window or buildings or anything else until you address the black and brown bivens of me and women who are transparently everybody else that are laying in the streets at the hands along. I dont, i dont want to come out with ramping up the coming close to the end. Im sinking, if you know, when i change that you can protest in the streets on the insults and one of the strategies that you employ to make sure that you stay safe as possible. Yeah, i think the 1st one would be likely or communication who are like making sure that youre there with a group that youre there with people that you trust that you have that look out of the, you know, what it, where are the police at . Are they are ready and right here, have they made an announcement . What type of announcement dotting down all of these details because thats something that we can use in the future. And we also want, especially here in arizona, we know that the police come out and respond in an entirely different great way to our stop to the left and to the right. You have folks that are coming out with rifles with weapons and their response and with from the other side. And the police do not do anything to them. They dont come out in the same way that they come out and attack our on the back of our community and our license. So making sure that you keep an eye out. We know that theres violence. We know that the police is that im here to protect those, and we need to be vigilant. When we come out in that way. I want to leave you with. One mostly says this is from angie shoe, who is a doctorate from such necessity of money that was going to the u. K. To krausen this very straight food. So just amendment rights, police are always going to want to protest, but when one is down in a predictable try to trade away is dangerous. But moxy, im not happening with that approach might in the us, the f. B. I. Reports that white supremacist tebbit will try to do martin or was meant as an argument to be made hit that Police Surveillance of black eyes. Not a protest isnt about question violence, but rather about actively stomping out movement. And although protest is in shaw and in the 1st amendment of the United States constitution, the Police Surveillance and intimidation of dracos mom to protest is under the press during the protest. 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