A transitional period. The majority in the room do not want the status quo. This is not an acceptable alternative. It is not sustainable. Everybody recognizes that the hard summer. Many libyans just passed through with no electricity, very little water, and all the other hardships and the pandemic, really, i think, was a wake up call. The leader of ethiopia has to agree region has confirmed that his forces fired rockets at the airport in eritrea as capital. He says the Ethiopian Military has been using as Morris Airport to launch as strikes on t. Gray. The attack marks a major escalation in the 12 day conflict. As a by john has agreed to extend the deadline for mania to withdraw from a disputed district of cul de jour. As part of a deal to end fighting over a back have been scenes of jubilation in peru after interim president , you know, announced hes resigning after just 5 days on the job. He had been on the amount of pressure to stand down after replacing martin. The scholar who was impeached Congress Called an emergency meeting after 2 students died during antigovernment protests. No make has called on marino to quit all faced impeachment himself. For the 1st time, u. S. President , donald trump appears to publicly acknowledge that joe biden won the election. But tweeting, trump also reiterated that he wont concede, repeating his unsubstantiated claims about voter fraud. His team is pushing ahead with lawsuits in battleground states. Those several cases have already been thrown out of court. More than 30 refugees have been rescued after their boat capsized in the mediterranean. Emergency crew was seen throwing life jackets. As the headlines coming up next up front. One of the most wanted men on the planet, the mastermind of a 4500000000. 00 fraud. And want to put him in jail, but you cannot help being in the past reveals never before heard recordings implicating some of the worlds most powerful players. Everyone would benefit by the abuse of power and jolo hunt for a fugitive on a just, you know, a big breakthrough this week on a coronavirus vaccine. Does this mean . All of our pandemic problems are over the top epidemiologist, but 1st u. S. President on a trump is still refusing to concede defeat in last weeks elections, claiming without evidence that the vote was rigged. Despite this keep figures and his party are still backing him, why last former republican congressman and trump supporter turned trump critic joe walsh. Joe walsh. Thank you for joining me on up front. So joe biden has been declared the winner of the u. S. President ial election. He is set to become president and january. That is a done deal, but the current president , donald trump, is not conceding, hes still pushing baseless claims and this election was stolen from him. And in fact, if you were public and leaders are even pushing back on those claims that enables the president to continue to push his live. Some of him are pushing those lies as well. Many of them have not even congratulated by right. Weve never really been at a point quite like this before. Whats it say about the state of the Republican Party that is so beholden to one man says does tweets. Rasha great to be with you. It says that the Republican Party is a dying political party. But understand youre right, weve never been here, weve never had a president who has literally for 4 to 5 years repeatedly attacked our democracy. So what donald trump is doing now is not at all a surprise refusing to accept the will of the people. This is who years hes a traitor, hes a traitor to this country. But to your point, we know that about the Republican Party now is even more beholden to him or a shell. And i think donald trump is, you know, dominate the party for the next 4 years. Are you surprised that so many republicans by prominent members of congress are still toeing the line with him. Hes lost, they dont have to do this. Well no, im not surprised because look for the last 3 years as i was out there saying things about donald trump. I would hear from my republican colleagues constantly in private. Tell me they agree with everything i say about donald trump. But they were afraid to say any of that publicly, the same thing richelle was going on. And now heres the deal. Theyre sick of trump. They cant stand, they want trump to leave, but theyre afraid of trumps voters. They dont want to lose trumps voters, so even though truong as lost, they dont want to alienate his voters because resell almost all of Donald Trumps voters right now. Believe trumps lie that this race was still run from him. Thats what the republicans are afraid of loosing. They dont want to lose. Oh, im glad you brought that up about trump, supporters and particulars, and youre still plugged in with the, with a lot of them and a lot of what they think they really do believe he actually won joe herself. They really, really do. Its amazing because i come from that world. His supporters used to be my supporters. I literally hear from thousands of them every day. And i have for months and right now, every single day, dear telly exactly what trump sets this race was stolen. Millions of people voted for joe biden. Magically ballots were flopping from the sky. Richelle they believed in and understood. This is the base of the Republican Party. So if youre ted cruz or your nikki ately, you dont want to. You dont want to say that it was stolen because you want them to support you. So joe, when you were in last year, that if the Republican Party did not stand up to trump, they would be wiped out and 2020, trumpets lost, but the party actually did not do that poorly. Do you think it would have been better for the health and future of the Republican Party . Had they been wiped out at the polls . Yet its a great question. Its a great record show. Trump, joe biden. Hes our next president. Donald trump, when as well though, he got more of his people out, it was an overwhelming repudiation of trump. This im richelle, i really believe donald trump made one per president. Again, 2024 no matter what hes going to keep its face on our phones and honored screens for the next 4 years. Hes going to freeze the Republican Party. So in a way it would have been much better for the Republican Party if it had been an overwhelming repudiation. But that didnt have a trump ism is alive in what you have called, trump ism, and the world around him. Youve actually called it a cult. You have work with a lot of these people, you know these people. How were you able to lead the the sinking ship or of the cult is that war and many of them have not richelle. It is a cult. Im not the only one who said that look, i voted for trump in 2016. Not because i love them or like to meet wasnt hillary. My biggest sin was i didnt pay enough attention to dons front. As soon as i started to Pay Attention to him after he won, i realized that he lies every time he opens his mouth and hes incapable of acting in the countrys interests. But rachelle, most of his supporters who are not yet it may have so far in us it, they dont understand your use of america. And i dont think thats the cheney. I really dont. I think most of his supporters are going to stay with him, which is why when i began a few minutes ago, i think the Republican Party is shaped by political party. I really do believe more than 70000000. People did vote for donald trump brighten undershot this week. This is what you said. You said, im not one of these people who will say, you trump supporters. Youre despicable your deplorable for all racist. I dont believe any of that. I believe almost all of you are really damn good people who got conned by a fraud. You got caught by a con man, joe to damn good people as you put it, vote for a racist. I think dem good people rachelle justify that. Theyre not voting for a racist even though you and i know donald is a racist, i believe, race resellers, part of it. Look, the Republican Party right now is basically older white people who are dying. Right. They live in small town america. Theyre older, theyre white, and theyre dying. Race for shell is part of it, but why they still cling to donald trump is because the american they believe in is disappearing. And its made him angry in confused. They dont understand why in total trust him along 4 years ago and said, im going to build a wall and now ill save america. And they clung to him. Race is part of it, but its also just their jobs early. There are leaving, but thats also happening for black and brown people and theyre not responding that way. Exactly. Because again, the older white people want to return to 1950, its imperative. Were never going to go back to that america. But the Republican Party rachelle instead of making better case that were never going to go back to or the Republican Party ignored these people. So along came a democrat lite them. So let me ask you this, then you talk about what resonated with his supporters. 40 years ago you were one of his supporters. What resonated with you . You know, what rachelle, what resonated with me once the disruption i believed. And i still believe that american politics is broken. Both of our parties are pro, in the whole thing is broken. I was in congress, i saw this struction often could be a good thing. And i think our politics is some disruption. Well, he did not need odds or cold air. He did not need to race that. We did not eat a narcissist is in a bubble of pushing the countrys interest ahead to consult. We need a puppet to book. Again, richelle i was guilty and stupid. And ive got photo of the show happen. So how can you say that though . Because even before donald trump ran for office, hes been a public figure for decades. He has said and done racists incendiary things. Hes been dishonest for here is how can you really say he didnt know or you werent paying attention . Come on. I did. I did. I feel richelle. I figured its just a goof is just a blowhard. Ive never watched a stupid reshow. I dont need, but i do this about him. I know, but when i didnt Pay Attention to things he said and did back in new york city, look for show he wants you to hillary clinton. I was that it enthusiastic supporter. It blocked me and it were back then because i would criticized him. I hope was he had elected he will play a lot of golf in maybe hed appoint a couple of people and maybe a couple things might now i was wrong. Ok. All right. Ok. And you have and you have, but this reckoning still needs to happen even though you have apologized. And im curious to know more about your evolution. So before donald trump sort of calling you names and blocking you on twitter, you did say things like, if trump loses, im grabbing my musket in what you say, Something Like that. Because if you get it was a musket. The famous last tweet, the musket tweet was from those when im going to grab my musket and im going to fight for freedom and limited government because im still a limited government service. Im the lection rachelle in 4016. I sent out another must be. I said no redder, hillary or trauma. Im going to grab my musket, read him in limited government, meaning less till theres. You could a felon, joe, you couldnt. You could have said that without invoking a musket or our violence or whatever you could have said that come on, i could of this, you know, i love the idea of a mosque and what about, i thought it works. But i thought it was kind of funny. Oh us. I still look, im a big gun guy. I thought it was just a funny way to put it out there on twitter that im going to fight for freedom limited government. I dont walk that. Im still while yeah, politically. I opposed. So joe, you apologize for some of the things youve said, but when it came to black lives matter, you have said a lot of bad things about them. Right. And when a Police Officer shot in dallas a few years ago, you tweeted this is now war. Watch out, obama watch out. Black lives matter punks. Real america is coming after you also said that black lives matter should be categorized as a hate group. How do you feel about those comments today . Ive walked back a lot of those because ive opened my eyes in urban i have spent the past 2 and a half years talking to black men and women who i respect in this country. And look, im very pro ah, im still very pro, but ive realized over the last of the last quote with to a bully years. That cops do not treat black lives the same way. They treat white lights. If you had me on your show 4 years ago, if you said joe black matter, i would have said strictly shell though all life better. But now i understand how important that phrase is black lives matter and us white people need not lives that we could move in that all. d lives matter you have said that you do feel. d were sponsible for nudging the u. S. Along too to having donald trump as a president. So what more do you think you can and should do to rectify that . I believe those are shallow and when i hope challenge downs from the republican primary last year, it was a public apology tour because a lot of the personal, ugly politics that i engaged over the past 10 years helped give us. The beautiful thing about trump is that he selp wake ice up to this ugly person all the chicks, and i dont engage it. Or i think step one is to get rid of all and weve done. Step 2 now is for people who believe what i believe it literally is sit down and appear with democrats and you have to respect our own decisions about issues or find out where we can find the ground. Do you think thats going to happen any time soon . Though its not just a matter of being polite to each other, dont you think that this election has exposed just how deep the divide is in this country . Its not about just being polite. No, and its not about strong either, because results will divide america. This country was divided, or troll trumps the oath the product of the divide, were still going to be deprived of next fact. Were still biden. Is that recklessly unite us . I do understand that we have funded and will differences. So what are those are going to be . We need to have ins. I want to be a part of. It was our conversations, but i think we need to try to do it respectfully. Joe walsh. Thank you sir for joining me on upfront shell. Of multiple countries across europe announcing new curfews and lockdowns, the United States surpassing 10000000. 00 coba cases and spats between brazil and china. Over vaccine trials bro. Looks like its entering the worst and most challenging phase of the krona virus pandemic yet. But theres also been some good news. The us pharmaceutical company, pfizer announced this week their new vaccine is more than 90 percent effective, but who will get it 1st. And will it work over the long term when us to talk about what this means for our lives and the challenges ahead as our 5, holding an epidemiologist and help economist who is a senior fellow at the federation of american scientists. Eric, thank you for joining me on up front before we talk about the vaccine. Lets just kind of check in on where things stand right now. With this pandemic, its been about a year since the corona virus 1st emerged. It seems that the world is entering a new phase, possibly a deadlier phase. Theres fears also that is when terror comes in the northern hemisphere, the numbers can get exponentially worse hospitalizations are up in the u. S. And in just the 1st, 10 days of november, the u. S. Thought 10000000 new cases in the immediate future. Eric, how much worse might this get . I think it could get much more worse before it gets better. Because if you look at the trajectory, were at 10000000. 00 now, but the 8000000. 00 took 20 days. The moon took 14 days and it 10000000. 00 only took 10 or 11 dates. And at this rate were averaging 100 20000. 00 cases a day in the u. S. Were going to hit 200000. 00 cases in the u. S. By the end of this month if this rate continues. Which means basically every less, less than a week for another 1000000 and the hospital beds are full and you can add more hospital beds. We can invent more doctors and nurses. So in terms of actual crush, were hitting their brains where people cant get treated. And just feel sore even through there, and with the winter, not even here yet. Im really worried because were going to see a real bad onslaught this winter. So lets talk about this announcement from pfizer. Pfizer announced that in this initial phase 3 clinical trial, the results indicate that this vaccine against the corona virus is more than 90 percent effective. Obviously, that sounds like amazing news, but theres a lot we still dont know. We do know that there are cases of people getting infected more than once. We know that this virus can mutate. So can you put this news in some sort of context for us . You know, this is a very preliminary analysis. So this trial had over 43000 people, and this is the only had 93 events as in injection events. And that just means that compared to the placebo, the vaccine was, you know, when the rate of the placebo was so great was for infection. So thats good. But its only for the 1st 7 days on average, 7 days follow up after their shots. And so we do have no idea about long term efficacy. We have no idea about safety enough because we only have 93. 00 events. We need a lot more. We need hundreds, if not thousands of infections are truly know the full extent and how long. But this is why we invest in more than one vaccine. So one vaccine, its hopeful, we dont know how long it lasts. But i think having more or more different vaccines that adapt to the virus in different ways allows us a more robust combination of preventive treatments when next year comes to roll out. So pfizer has said that by the end of 2020, it will advance factored enough doses to immunize 15 to 20000000 people. That sounds like a lot thats about the size of new york city, but in perspective, there are 7800000000 people in the world. So obviously that is very, very small, that little bit of math for you. Thats about point 25 percent of the worlds population. How do you decide who gets the vaccine 1st . Thats a very good question. I think traditionally, traditionally people have prioritized Health Care Workers because theyre on the front lines treating patients. And if we have doctors and nurses getting sick that actually hurts the rest of the epidemic. And then theres essential workers and frontline workers, those who work at say, grocery stores, those who work in nursing homes. But again, we have, we have millions and millions of Health Care Workers in this country. And you know, the rest, the rest of the world also has the same supply issue. This is why at the beginning it will be very, very difficult to get your hands on it. But thats why i always say the general population has to aim for late spring at the earliest, most likely, later this summer, before it becomes widely available. How do we even decide which climb trees might get it 1st . I mean, obviously theres politics, its money is going to be the rich and the powerful people that have access to this 1st and other countries are left behind. This is a pandemic. This is not a, you know, 1st world country developing country kind of disease exclusively. As long as this virus is in any part of the world, the entire world still remains at risk. So this is why rolling out the back seem to entire world, equitably and affordably is so critical. And at the beginning, i think obviously the u. S. North american, you know, u. K. Will have access to our works be vaccines. But again, putting all of our eggs in one basket is not necessarily the best idea. We could actually be more successful if we can actually cross share and see this vaccine could be better in this situation. This vaccine could be better in this situation. We have to see, we never really saw in the u. S. The strict lock downs that we saw in places like asia, europe and australia would never happen. Even if the numbers are going up. Theres real talk of a lock down like that. Why is that eric . Do you think . Is it because of that . Its a spin so politicized in the u. S. To talk about individual freedoms. And is it a mistake . Do you think that if we had had this Strict Lockdown that other places had that we would be a little farther along in this . Yeah, i think the strictest in the lockdown is very different because that though what, who hunted and what singapore and hong kong did was just, you know, leaps and bounds much more strict. You know, for anyone entering hong kong or singapore, you would get an ankle bracelet actually in terms of your quarantine rules. Meanwhile, anyone who flies the u. S. Has almost no quarantine measures. Their contact forms are actually not even checked by custom in the border control. And you have no idea where they are. No testing entry, testing is needed and a lot downs. We cant, theyre not going to see it by themselves. We have to test and Contact Trace rapidly quickly. And we did not do that either. And also japan, assuming that this virus was airborne from the beginning and as well as korea, they took the precautions against an airborne virus. We did not. And we had way too many laxatives, a call exceptions. All together, u. S. Reaction to this is, has been very terrible. And i think its part of our culture. You know, freedom is as we say, but its also this trust in government where people trusted what south korean government did. Hong kong and singapore government did in taiwan government did. But in terms of solidarity and trust, we have a very fractured and when we do eric and i, lets just be honest. Part of that is because the president of the United States did not encourage people to wear masks. Multiple members of a staff have gotten coded, so really not set an example when it comes to this, right. And even a week after losing the election, he has not conceded. So thats kind of slow in the transition to the buying the ministration. Does that concern you that were in the middle of a pandemic . And theres not right now a smooth transition to the next administration that needs to deal with this. Oh, absolutely, and thats what i was trying to get. Theres been so many ways in which the pen demick is a mess and whats trump ministration. Lack of testing like a p. P. S. Lack of defense production act. You know, like context tracing a mass testing, you know, deployment. Theres so many things and of course the downplaying of masks, of hiring scott atlas to push quack theories around a turd immunity. Dismissing that almost virtually no, you know, no one actually died. Its all these things have been terribly terribly for this response. And you know, we knew about it, but they did nothing for the most part and i would say. And now all right, theyre all there in terms of the transition. They are refusing to approve any transition funds. Theyre refusing basically to accept it by anyone. And so this delays and hampers the transistor transition and ultimately hurts Public Health response hurts trust and science hurts everything. What were trying to do as epidemiologist, Public Health scientists, to stop this epidemic and spew conspiracy theories on top is just just the last thing we need right now. Ok, that will be the final word. Eric bible bank. Thank you so much for joining me. Thank you. And we will be back next week for that instead of the these men are survivors of covert 1946 year old is a limousine driver. Hes the only one here who needed to go to hospital when he became ill in early march. We believe things will go through the balance board, you know, going so deep. It is a 34 year old driver for kotori family and he tested positive. My body is good, it will be small. But will you want to build the Health Officials say the rate of new infections has slowed . The goal here is to conduct a broad serving to better understand transmission and asymptomatic cases, which in turn could help policy decisions in the future. So it would be easy for us to inform the Decision Making on what to do next. The goal now is to increase testing and contact trees that the government provides free testing and medical treatment for those who need it. While campaigns to raise awareness, continue on charging the cost the once mighty financial capitals of the world have been reduced to those talents by the kind that make committee reinvent themselves. Last to accuse president of far as the Central Bank Governor out of this summit, little steps, dollars, finance minister countering the cost on aljazeera the world the majority in the room do not want the status talks aimed at ending the conflict in libya finished with a agreement on a unity government money. 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