Pennsylvania in the balance now hes asking the Supreme Court to intervene in unfounded claims of voter fraud. Across the nation from supporters clashing with pro biden groups. Ok lets continue our election coverage by summing up this rapidly changing scenario heres what you need to know that just for battleground states still being counted joe biden is now ahead in georgia nevada and pennsylvania biden has 264 Electoral College votes trump has 214 the number to hit is 270 any single win for biden could effectively end the race but officials in georgia say they expect a recount there weve also now got a new batch of ballots in the state weve already called them they increase bidens margin but this is one of the states the trunk campaign is trying to contest with a legal challenge. You know we have correspondents following developments across the United States our team the sellers are all a child is in wilmington bidens home state of delaware olen fisher is covering developments from the capital washington d. C. The last i heard Speaker Nancy Pelosi has already called joe biden the president elect while lashing out at trump pretty soon the hyphen will be gone from Vice President to president elect joe biden a happy day for our country because joe biden is a unifier because he is determined to bring people together because he respects all points of view and as he has said i ran as a democrat i would govern as president for all of the people whether they voted for me or not sadly instead of crushing the virus it appears that the trump administered will use its final moments in office and a desperate last step to destroy every possible protection for American Health and well being so many people have said to me and perhaps some of you along the way what damage do you think that trump will do between losing the election and the swearing in the inauguration of joe biden maybe you didnt phrase it quite that way but thats how i heard it and we knew that he would be up to mischief separate and apart from that trying to destroy the credibility of our elections which we criticize other nations for doing and now ways our enemies foreign and domestic make an assault on our elections when we have one domestic. Versus joining us from washington d. C. So nancy pelosi one of the few senior democrats to be speaking out as the counts progress. Its going to get better when both sides Start Talking about what exactly is happening the Trump Campaign and donald trump himself have been critical of the decision of whats happening in pennsylvania in particular donald trump just in the last hour or so. Because of attacks by the radical left and democrats on the Republican Senate the presidency becomes more important essentially giving a reason why he thinks he should stay and the reason hes giving to his supporters should be pointed out that this even if you count up the popular vote across all of the United States joe biden leads that by some 4000000 votes at the Time Campaign clearly are going to push ahead with legal action weve known for weeks that donald trump was considering this taking as far as the Supreme Court just quick or tweeted someone who appeared on one of the faux channels saying that this will go through the courts and have to go to the Supreme Court so clearly thats very much in his thinking the Truck Campaign issued a statement a few hours ago saying that this election is not over the force projection job by this president is based on the results from 4 states that are far from final and by discussing those states the killer gave an insight into how theyre going to formulate their legal challenges in georgia they believe there was ballot stuffing in nevada the thing that people voted there that were entitled to a mail in ballot see that in pennsylvania there was not a load into the counting is not strictly true there will be servers there from both republican and democrat as well as independent observers and they say that although i dont know has been called by fox news a favorite with many Trump Supporters and conservative viewers they say that arizona is still within their grasp and they can win its interesting to point out that donald trump was the last time i checked some 47000 votes behind. So thats essentially the Trump Campaign laying out where they see their legal arguments a number of republicans have been very critical of what donald trump said when he made this statement at the white house on thursday he talked about voter fraud in illegal ballots without giving any real evidence to do that a number of Senior Republicans have been seeing the if theres a legal challenge then it should go through the courts theyre not openly criticizing the president even know so theres still a long way to go with this were told that theyll be a recount in wisconsin of course the Term Campaign of unknowns that as far as i can find out they havent officially asked for that georgia has said theres likely to be a recurring again the campaign has to ask for that and of course were going to see legal challenges now if you go back all the way to 2000 and the battle between al gore and george w. Bush you remember that that was contested in florida protesters gathered in tallahassee the state capital all sorts of for want of a better word shenanigans going on for at least 30 or days before the Supreme Court eventually decided youve got to stop the counting at that point al gore made a concession speech and said for the benefit of the country its time for us to stop that action and george bush is the president im told that dont trump has no plans to concede this election you remember that on tuesday he was asked if hed written an acceptance a concession speech he said hed written either no intention of writing a concession speech at this point either he is intent on letting the Legal Process play out so no concession from donald trump even though everything at this stage is pointing to a joe Biden Victory in the 2020 u. S. President ial election. Allan is there any indication from the people that youve been speaking to over the last few days on the republican side that there is a certain amount of distancing going on from the trunk administrator between the trumpet ministration and the body of the g. O. P. Or the republicans or are they still as firmly behind him as they claim to be before. Claim to be is the key phrase there role of the republicans who are behind the president in public. But there are other republicans who are saying look for the benefit of the country they realize that the election has been lost and he should step away but the are not going to come out in public and say that maybe a few on the fringes but none of the people who really if you look at the president ial results isolated the people who run for the senate and run for the house who are not going to criticize donald trump because they believe that they got their victory because of donald trump heres the thing if you take the president ial election the equation republicans actually did quite well on tuesday night they didnt lose a single house see i cant think of a time in living memory when that happened the look as if at the moment theyre on course to continue to control the center of the doubt me with the results in georgia and runoff elections which will be january the 3rd and they kept control of most of the state houses that were up for grabs as well so they had a very good night the person that had a bad night was donald trump and even then he expanded his vote from what he got the last time around its just that joe biden called a lot more in fact 4000000 more so the republicans are very reluctant to attack donald trump because they know he controls a large base in the Republican Party and there it will be a reluctance from those who are eyeing a president ial run in 2024 i think thats the 1st mention of me. If that congratulations 3 days after the 2020 alexion that were talking about 2024 but there are those who want to run in 2024 and they realize to do that they cant upset the Trump Supporters and possibly even donate trump himself because he still wields huge power in social media and also in the Republican Party which has become the party of trouble so do expect any of them to come out and start criticizing the president anytime soon thanks very much indeed thats alan fischer in washington d. C. A lets speak now to kristen salumi in philadelphia so as i mentioned before joe biden is ahead in pennsylvania how is the count progressing and do we have any indication about what the timeline might be for this. Yes well joe biden is ahead by 110th of a percent here in pennsylvania but as the vote count continues and keeps creeping forward he is moving steadily away from the president hes now ahead by about 9000 votes and the majority of the votes mail in ballots that remain to be counted are here in philadelphia and also in the area of hit spurred 2 Major Urban Centers that lean heavily democratic in this state and this state will continue to allow votes that are received up until 5 pm today to be counted as long as they have been mailed prior to election day or on election day so that. Court ordered sweep. Has turned new mail in ballots in postoffice Mail Processing centers here in pennsylvania and elsewhere around the country adding another 700. 00 ballots to the total so we estimate that there are well over 100000. 00 ballots still to be counted in this state these late ballots are something that president has. Very much ben contesting and concerned about him complaining about on twitter hes calling them illegal and even though they were upheld by the state Supreme Court the ability to accept these ballots leading out to all the way up until 5 pm today that is something that he is hoping that this isnt priem court is going to take up there are other various legal challenges in this state from the Republican Party and counties specifically dealing with mail in ballots as well so president refusing to concede pennsylvania or anything because he knows that the 20 electoral votes up for grabs here the only way that he could possibly eat out a victory and will contest every last one of those votes his rhetoric seems to have somewhat of an effect on his followers in terms of discrediting the vote process going on here the 2 people were arrested taken into custody here in philadelphia early in the morning after officials got reports of a possible plot to attack poll workers here that people were in a vehicle with the weapon and. The license plate indicating that they had come from virginia so things remain tense weve seen. National guard troops patrolling in case things get heated here as people have warned but so far everything is calm but the vote count keeps proceeding. Of course were going to be checking in with you in the next few hours but for our interest and salumi in philadelphia thank you very much want to bring in. Hes in wilmington delaware which is of course joe bidens home state bring us up to date its was how the biden camp is reacting to all these changes in the figures. Well we heard earlier from Speaker Nancy Pelosi will be here she isnt in the. Certainly on the campaign by the campaign but as a senior. Democrats essentially declaring him. The inevitable president elect as far as the campaign is concerned its more action that it is. Evident than words were seeing a lot of people converging here on the campaign h. Q. It is a large empty parking lots where possibly some of the public will be gathering theyve come with their children with placards of drawer biden t. Shirts written on them by the harris and other kind of. Demonstrations of support for him are we expecting him to speak here when are we expecting to speak here were not quite sure but certainly there is a stage set up with going to prove. They are for him if and when he decides to address both his supporters and the nation aside from that weve been reporting obviously that theres been an increase in security personnel dispatched to him the u. S. Secret service has announced that they were doing that that comes just a day off to the federal Aviation Administration announced it was implementing a no fly zone bidens home one of that indicates that it appears to be just a matter of time before he is announced there was a comment that was made by one of the spokespersons of the Biden Campaign and debates when he was his reaction for what Trumps Campaign had said that they were not intending to admit defeat to which the Biden Campaign spokesperson said that the u. S. Government was quote more than capable of removing trespassers from the white house so there are a lot of memes or jokes that are going on online about donald trump having to be dragged kicking and screaming away from the oval office well the Biden Campaign says that is possibly a scenario which they believe authorities are capable of so the movement around here is very much one on. Of anticipation for a decision or an announcement that their candidate is going to win but not lost on the people here is the huge challenges that he will face by then if and when he has announced. That starting with but also trying to bridge the huge divide that currently exists between one section of the population millions and millions who voted for by then another section of the population also in the millions that voted for donald trump. Jamal just very briefly youve been in wilmington forest for the last few days and i know youve had a chance to speak to some of the the local people there how are they feeling about the way that the election has been progressing. Theres been a lot of shock at the way in which donald trump has reacted to this. Ordinary americans would never of assume. That they are electoral process would be. Held in what they consider to be contempt by the president or at least the comments that have been made about it obviously this is coming from biden supporters so there is that true context realize it and add to it the drawn out process isnt anything new weve seen it before in 2000 maybe its a different generation for the Younger Voters who may not necessarily remember it but back then it took about 3 weeks for florida to be decided obviously there is a timeframe a cushion between those elections in november and when the president takes over what they call those lame duck months that up until the end of january but so that so there is that space for those Legal Processes to take place however the way in which is being done the rhetoric thats taking place is something that is concerning and we heard it even in the campaign trail where we saw a lot of the candidates talking about this even biden himself acknowledged it in the 1st statements he made a couple of days ago and then yesterday talking about the need for patience and calm you wouldnt necessarily talk about that would use the term of calm unless there was evidently a sense of tension and that tension has only been heightened because of the lack of clarity that continues surrounding those those results and the way in which President Trump has been essentially rejecting what a lot of the News Agencies as well as. These have been declaring so far jamal thanks very much indeed in wilmington delaware. Well in the battleground state of georgia joe biden is leading by about 1500 votes but Election Officials there say there are still more votes left to count and that could make a difference. There are still an unknowable amount of ballots that will be available to be counted at some point they are in the hands of the Elections Officials now other than maybe the military knew a couple ones and i can assure you that there are teams of 20 somethings around the state who are republicans and democrats finding those people with those absentee ballots secure and theyre going through the process in county by county in ones and twos and just to preempt a question is going to come up do we see any widespread fraud are we seeing anything that makes us question the outcome of the election were not seeing widespread regularities or not see anything widespread we are investigating any credible. Accusation with any real evidence behind it but let me tell you one thing when you have a narrow margin. A little small things can make a difference so everything had to be investigated to protect the integrity of the vote our office intends to do that and i said we get a wide margin doesnt matter as much narrow margin it does we are literally looking at a margin of less than you know a Large High School so we understand that in the state the county officials are aware of that our investigators are aware of that so its an important thing to protect the integrity of this election from all sides ok to discuss the rapidly changing election the scenario and the months to come lets get a perspective from both sides of the political divide weve got tada doug bell shes a Democratic Political and Marketing Consultant and were also joined by steve rogers is a former member of the donald trump for president Advisory Board and he was an adviser to the president s 2016 president ial Campaign Good to have you both back on Aljazeera Tom i want to start with you after this election given the fact that donald trump has come has commanded such big numbers in this election how much introspection if you like will the democrats have to go through to try to judge where they went wrong in not being able to god though those people to themselves. Well 1st i want to offer some context as weve talked about before this country is deeply divided and those divisions existed before donald trump and they were made worse under donald trump so i think that the context within which were operating and so i think when people look at the end of the election they look for these large swings but historically in modern times we have not had these large swings right this is in fact based on modern times in electoral politics new United States this is a large swing the fact that joe biden is by historic numbers in terms of the popular vote is in fact a definitive when but with respect to your question democrats do need to do some introspection of course and they should do some introspection on a recurring basis all of the time to make sure that what theyre communicating and what theyre doing is responsive to the needs of voters and to the American Public so i think there are some areas where were basing needs for improvement with latino men in certain states there clearly was a ground that lost in certain states with that population in some state again black men in the u. S. There was a ground lost with those populations as well so i think that thats where the Democratic Party needs to look at their policies and again i said this earlier its all about how you message your policies how you communicate what you want to do to make sure that people understand fully the implications for them and the party has to be better about making sure that people know all of the policies and that exists and why those policies will benefit them. Let me bring you in here not the same question because it does seem as though to outsiders to those of us looking at this from outside the United States that the Republican Party the g. O. P. Is essentially split youre not have republicans and you have trump ists and cannot be good surely for the future of the g. O. P. Is the work to be done there. Theres a lot of work to be done and look we as a party and as a country have to stop blaming each other our side has to stop pointing fingers at the democrats and they have to stop pointing fingers at us at the end of the day were all americans and i believe part of the problems that were facing have a lot to do with the media whether its to the left or the right that that has caused more problems to divide people because they have been creating false narratives opinions we dont have journalism in this country anymore so thats part of the problem but part of the solution is you know theres a saying that says all politics is local i tend to want to listen to the leaders of our communities around the country the people who are facing the tough times the people who are facing the policies that these politicians with democrat or republican are imposing upon all of us so yes of a lot of work has to be done not only with in our parties but between our parties and once we get on that road then were going to find out that we have a lot more in common than a lot more which is dividing us steve you concerned that the the traditional values of republicanism the original values if you like of republicanism to have been lost amongst our sacrifice if you like 2 personalities on both sides. Well im concerned yes that the traditional values of the Republican Party as well as the Democrat Party when john f. Kennedy was indeed. The president of the people as go way back to the are you know we are a party you know we talk about god and we talk about country and we talk about flag and i believe that the democrats have a conservative group of people in their party that have been buried by the socialists i dont want to see that happen to the Republican Party but indeed there been a lot of voices out there doing a lot of complaining but the question is what are they contribute to a solution now to Donald Trumps credit the President Trumps credit hes talked about god hes talked about country hes talked about america 1st and those traditional values in which our party im sorry our country was founded on so his credit hes brought that to the forefront so thats an issue that were going to have to work out as we move forward i need to bring you in obviously because youre shaking your head you clearly disagree. Well. Several several points here in terms of 1st i want to make a point about the Democratic Party and its not Democrat Party its the Democratic Party i wouldnt call the Republican Party that Republican Party so i think we want to talk about tamping down some of the rhetoric we should also be respectful with respect to to the party the Democratic Party has always been diverse it is extraordinarily diverse even in this election cycle we saw that diversity unexplained display again so of course there are going to be parts of the party that dont always agree with each other that happens in both parties so i want to just point that out but its a party thats the 1st racially its a party that the various religiously Sexual Orientation gender all of those things and thats to me what makes the party great because thats reflective of america at the same time in terms of the rhetoric that that trump is offered about gods earth and thats and that you know rhetoric is one thing actions are another thing and in our country if the back suffering we had 200 we had 240000 people who are dead because of a pandemic thats raging and so its its one thing to say certain things but its another thing to actually have a plan and have action to deliver results and thats what i think has has been missing and and its quite laughable as someone who knows that that hes embraced god all of that. But let me bring in a man that immigrants have rather than some others ignorant of your gives a steve a chance to respond to this there is no considering how the government acted earlier that a significant perhaps number of lives may have been saved that subsequently died from coronavirus this is the problem not so much perhaps with the g. O. P. With the republicans themselves but with the leadership does the republicans have to really address how they choose their leaders. Look as Ronald Reagan said here we go again you know we look at things that you just heard thats got to stop that simply has got to stop that doesnt solve our problems to your point book that theres enough blame regarding leadership around that can that could be shared a look. Of blame donald trump everything i mean if the guy had a cure for cancer theyd find a way to blame him for something the point is when i say theres enough to go around regarding blame i remember the president saying in the beginning lets not create a cure thats going to be worse than the problem were facing with the virus we did just that suicide rates are up the pressure is up the mess that violence is up Violent Crime is up now whos to blame for that im not going to place the blame on the shoulders of any leader theyre doing the best they could with something that came upon us by surprise perhaps lessons will be learned but there were no one was out of ventilator medical care got to the best of it im going to have to interrupt you there because unfortunately this discussion is far too short we could go on for so much longer and steve i appreciate you joining us and al jazeera thank you very much indeed for giving us your views pleasure thank you very much President Trump has promised quote tremendous amount of litigation contesting the vote counting process in several states his campaign has filed suits in georgia michigan pennsylvania and nevada and his suits in those states include allegations of late and invalid votes and campaign observers being denied adequate access to cases in michigan and georgia have been dismissed for lack of evidence none of the complaints provide examples of times massive voter fraud claims but he has promised to take his case all the way to the Supreme Court well we spoke to a lawyer amy pope in london she said in the u. S. Department of justice as deputy Homeland Security adviser to president obama she explains why Donald Trumps legal complaints are not likely to reach the Supreme Court. To get to the Supreme Court there happen to be some material cases issues of law or a fact and were really not seeing either its not against the law to vote against donald trump despite what he might allege and so thats why were seeing so many of these cases being thrown out as quickly as they are hes filing them both in federal courts as well as in state courts it looks that some of them are not actually being filed always in the right place there have been some cases where the judges actually questioned why its being heard for example in federal court when there was a state court issue that was disputed but that just demonstrates that these are not carefully crafted legally and evidentiary based lawsuits theyre really nuisance lawsuits that are meant more it appears to gin up Public Opinion we do know that the chief Justice John Roberts takes very seriously the independence of the judiciary hes made comments to that effect in the past hes made clear that he does not see the Supreme Court as an arm of the president the other issue thats at play here is how much difference does it make even if the trumpet ministration were accurate in its claims so when were talking about a handful of votes in a state where the president has lost by tens of thousands of votes then it makes no material difference and the consequences of that lawsuit really dont matter that much. This is all it is even these are the top stories democratic nominee joe biden has pulled ahead of president tom in the battleground states a pennsylvania and georgia is also in the lead in the vada trump is now really ahead in North Carolina biden his own people to be patient he says hes