Transcripts For ALJAZ News Special 20240712

You through so lets get into it louisiana 8 Electoral College votes to dont drop again a lot of these are going to be fairly predictable ones ones like north dakota which is going to go the way of donald trump only a small state there with 3 Electoral College votes we look at nebraska next to rick. It is nebraska now just going to polls on this for a 2nd 3 Electoral College votes for donald trump there are 5 on offer in nebraska i think you may remember early i mention that nebraska and maine split their Electoral College votes so if this point we can say there are 3 for donald trump he is the projected winner in those 3 districts 2 other ones which could be picked up by have a candidate. Lets move on again in vienna or wyoming no its wyoming 1st of all with its 3 Electoral College votes in indiana as well excuse me indiana is the next one with 11 Electoral College votes and the state of nevada as well now this is when we start looking at some blue states the state of too early to coal with 6 Electoral College votes but that will be one which would likely go into the blue column a little bit later on we know one that will new york was a projected winner of joe biden there were 29 Electoral College votes the same number is in play in florida as well new mexico is another one well look at to put in the column of joe biden with 5 Electoral College votes. And colorado as well which has just been no sorry too early to call in colorado with 9 Electoral College votes and also kansas at this stage too early to call d officially but again another one we would expect to drop into the republican column a little later on as we would with south dakota in fact its already dropped in with 3 Electoral College votes for donald trump there lets check wisconsin lets go through some of our swing states now a battleground areas 10 to coal in wisconsin. As it is in wyoming and i feel we did wyoming already actually at arizona star is a lot of information coming into my ear all at once arizona 11 Electoral College votes to coal as well so lets actually have a little look at the state profile for you then you saw the virtual graphic which i was doing a little bit earlier explaining arizona in there as well donald trump with 49 percent against Hillary Clintons 45 but you see how that gap had been narrowed previously mitt romney with 54 so a 10 percent gap and 2012 it was narrowed to 4 percent by Hillary Clinton which is why weve got arizona in our swing states out battleground states this year lets check up in michigan as well which is still too early to call this will be an important one the blue wall which youve heard so much about again checking the history there actually checking the popular vote with 7 percent reporting and donald trump comfortably ahead of them but at 7 percent we cant really take too much into that it is too early to call with what is that 700800000 votes counted now as fully wanted to talk about texas with 38 Electoral College votes is too early to call lets check the popular vote. Now that is very interesting 37 percent of precincts reporting at the moment and joe biden is just ahead now how hes doing that in such a red state what hes doing it in and you saw this before again and that virtual graphic i was doing early a show in u. The urban areas the places like Harris County which is houston. Also Dallas County which is dallas and backside county which is san Antonio Donald trump im sorry joe biden is either doing as well as Hillary Clinton there or in the case of south san antonio is doing a lot better than Hillary Clinton did there and he is also cutting into some of the republican margins in places like Harris County in houston as well so. At this stage you would say not enough to flip the state but it makes it very very interesting that number on its own says its interesting as well when you look back in the history have a closer look at these Hillary Clinton and donald trump 10 percent between them. 4 years ago thats a small gap when you compare to previously when barack obama only had 41 percent against mitt romneys 57. 00 so Hillary Clinton had already been now were going to get 4 years ago the democrats have been making their inroads and clearly joe biden is building on that in and around the suburban areas would it be enough to flip texas that would be a political earthquake territory and would change the whole map completely we are not obviously at that stage we are at 38 percent of precincts reporting there so the state of the race as it is right now donald trump has 50 percent of the popular vote joe biden has 48 but then this is what happens in you know talked about it earlier with the Electoral College vote the way that it can change donald trump ahead he has more people voting for him at this stage but it is joe biden who has picked up more of the Electoral College votes thats the way the system works it can ebb and flow like that in the end the only one that matters will be those Electoral College votes there. So i think thats premature well leave it there ok because i need to take a break i think in this case that was when i was a big news on texas but that is big news it is big news but as you say. Its too early to for and to flip it would be but that would be the savior for night if an earthquake thank you come on for the moment well lets check in with Kimberly White house correspondent. Kimberly a number of states coming in this hour no not big surprises of course but i imagine the Campaign Still watching whats going on in florida very very closely. Watching whats happening in florida but already were seeing the trunk campaign sending out messages that they believe theyve secured florida. But what i can tell you yet again weve been talking about this party thats happening behind we had dont know if you can hear it this is a bit of a street party on black lives matter plaza theyre not trying to supporters they are counting out a joe Biden Victory and prepared to celebrate i dont think thats the same thing going on inside the white house right now in the east wing where we know the president is watching these returns coming in with his family and friends there couple of worrying signs for the president and for a president that were so accustomed to being very very vocal on twitter he is noticeably silent a couple of the problem states that are looking troublesome for him right now North Carolina as well as ohio he really needs to win North Carolina to win the white house and he doesnt he would need the midwestern states to really have a solid victory and again showing some worrying signs so its notable the fact that we have not heard much from the president can believe thank you check in with mike now in done away the home state of joe biden can really say some worrying signs for trump in a number of states is a concern in the biden camp about any particular state at this stage. Rather like in the trump camp the silence out of the biden camp at the moment or last simply. Watching the results of the ongoing analysts and malice of what is happening but nobody breaking cover at the moment the situation is soul close so absolutely tense in a number of states that nobody wants to come out and make any calls at this particular point in time joe biden said it very clearly early on in the afternoon that when hes got something to say he will come out and hell say or 10 very clearly this instruction has gone down to his staff weve heard very little from the Biden Campaign headquarters behind me here we understand that joe biden himself is still at his home here in washington delaware in a few hours time hell come to the Convention Center with his Vice President nominee a comma there harris but at the moment the campaign being very quiet but there are some encouraging signs that have been seen throughout the evening however florida once again remains a major major issue the trumps likely widening his lead there which would be a concern for the Biden Campaign they really banking on florida as something that will flip and actually give them a surge with as the other results come in but that is still far too close to call at this particular point they are happy that their projections indicate a virginia win for biden that would be important for him but the key issues here still remain florida at this particular point texas is looking very very interesting for the Biden Campaign thats a state that hasnt been properly contested by a democratic candidate for a long period of time so the closeness of that particular struggle there a point off encouraged meant for those sitting in the Convention Center behind me but as i said just like in the truck Campaign Headquarters theres a silence out of here certainly theyre never regular tweets from the from the Biden Campaign as are from the trump one but. Just like President Trump and his followers is a wits wait lets watch lets see and we are waiting mike hanna in dunaway thank you mike talking about florida there of course a big focus tonight florida lets check in with florida and gallagher in miami and the florida is proving typically dramatic. You know i mean how unusual that we are here in the state of florida talking about yet another tight race it up back in 2016 and im 20 years ago when this state decided between bush and gore and who was going to be the president so it is extremely important though for donald trump to win this state because there are other ways that joe biden can stop trump getting to the white house as kimberly was just saying a team trumpery saying florida is in the bike that is not a certainty at the moment although if you look at those polls trump does seem to be edging ahead in a margin that would be more than how much he beat Hillary Clinton by which was only about 112000. 00 votes so for team trump for the president this is a vital state 29. 00 Electoral College votes the biggest battleground state and this entire president ial election so they are calling it early themselves a team from as kimberly was saying the president himself is very quiet we have to watch wait and see what happens in this vital state for the Trump Presidency and he in miami thank you for the moment florida and now we are going to look at ohio where nearly 2 thirds of the votes have been counted and theyre showing that joe biden is in the lead has come a santa maria on why ohio has been an important swing states in all elections taken. Just what is it about the state of ohio you might have heard it called the bellwether state a kind of trend setter when it comes to u. S. Elections this is because since 944 higher and its 18 votes have chosen the losing candidate just the one time that was Richard Nixon back in 1980 its quite a record to uphold but thats not to say that these have been easy victories most winning candidates have won the state with tight margins if you look at 2004 in fact it was critical in deciding george bushs reelection against john kerry but by 2016 donald trump managed to win very comfortably and 8 percent when it was over Hillary Clinton and this is why high it was older and wiser than the National Average more than 80 percent of eligible voters in ohio a white africanamericans make up only a little more than 12 percent now joe biden would like to win here of course he would but dont trump probably has to win after all no republican has won the presidency without the Buckeye State they say as ohio goes so goes the nation and that is why a massive. Well for more on whats going on in ohio that speaks to john hendren 2 thirds of the votes counted there john whats the latest. Well trump won ohio in 2016 by 8 Percentage Points it was an easy win for him and what were seeing tonight is that joe biden is significantly outperforming Hillary Clinton all across the state were not seeing trump outperform his own 2016 performance now one of the problems here is that early votes come in and daily votes come in at different times we know that the of the day voting tends to favor trump early voting pretty heavily favors biden but what were seeing here is that biden seems to be holding on to that advantage that hes got hes run up the vote. In urban areas like cleveland and columbus mit or importantly in lake county right next to cleveland he is also captured a county that Hillary Clinton why is that important because its in the suburbs and it was in the suburbs that donald trump one the 2016 election this time around what were seeing is that biden is improving in the suburbs not just in ohio but in other states as well and so that is a sign if it remains we still got a 3rd of the vote to count in ohio thats a big sign for biden right now in michigan we see trump leading i wouldnt read too much into that thats because they count mostly the of the day votes of those favor trump were going to see early voting counted later and it might not be tonight it might not be tomorrow before we get those cleveland votes wisconsin is another vote another state that we need to watch that is one that trump one very narrowly breaking up the blue wall all of those states were states that barack obama won they called it his democratic blue wall this year its looking very different but if trump loses ohio his path to victory narrow dramatically he won by 36. 00 electoral votes last time this would be 18 of those votes and biden appears to be outperforming Hillary Clinton in several places across the nation. Thank you for the acts lets not go to christian salumi crucial battleground states of pennsylvania ohio michigan all of those up for grabs today christine you are in philadelphia looking at pennsylvania and 2016 of course now only one and sylvania with less than one percentage point how of things going to look in 2020. Yes well democrats are hoping that they were able to rally suburban women minority voters particularly black and latino voters and also some disaffected republicans to avoid a repeat of 2016 when Hillary Clinton was leading in the polls much like joe biden has been but president was able to pull off an upset victory winning by less than a percentage point and. It may take a while however for all the votes be counted here in this crucial battleground state and thats because theyve only just begun processing some 2 and a half 1000000 mail of mail in ballots because state law required them to wait until today to begin that process they say theyre going to do it as quickly as possible the governors just been speaking about that but they say it could take as long as friday. That of course. Could favor. Democrats in the end if theres a lot of votes outstanding it could look good for President Trump by the end of the day because its expected that the early votes would favor president whereas the mail in votes would favor joe bidens nearly 3 times as many mail in ballots were requested by democrats and received from democrats than they were from republicans and right now only about 15 percent of the vote is in and joe biden is actually doing very well here but its way too early for those percentages to mean too much given all of that but clearly the candidates have been very focused on pennsylvania theyve been here more than any other state President Trump was here 13 times joe biden was here 16 times as recently as a few hours ago he showed up here in penn philadelphia pennsylvania the states largest city and he was making an appeal to philadelphia he really needs voters in urban areas that favor him strongly to to come out he needed them to come out and certainly we saw a lot of engagement from voters here but again maybe a while for we know for sure how it turned out christine thank you christine tsunami in philadelphia pennsylvania now so far you know the polls have closed in a number of states. What theyre expected to be so far but we could be in for a surprise in texas. How do you castro is in houston for us heidi whats the latest from there. If only it is still too close to call here in texas which in itself is surprising typically by this time of the night on Election Night the u. S. Network would have said that texas is solidly red in favor of the republican president ial candidate but what were seeing here is that this very close results thus far with some 60 percent of votes be reported and trump is edging ahead by a mere some 1300. 00 votes at last check of course is still early in the night so were still expecting some of the border counties and El Paso County to repeat reporting their results later they are the last polls to have close and they are democratic leaning so certainly theres still a fighting chance here for joe biden which is a highlight in itself for democrats we saw that this 1st time in a long time texas being competitive. Interpreted as a large voter turnout especially among the urban cores of texas and large metropolitan areas and in the suburbs and in particularly the suburbs surrounding austin texas flipping blue for the 1st time which is a continuation of the trend weve been seeing since 28 in the midterm elections certainly state democrats are already counting that in itself as a win and theyre Still Holding out hope even though political experts are by a large part saying that it is very unlikely that joe biden wins texas this year however that trend toward turning blue is certainly ongoing as continued demographic changes in this state with more latinos voting more young voters voting certainly tend to favor the Democratic Party. In houston. Texas well have the latest from texas as soon as more results coming in from there. Results are filtering in there of course still questions about delays legal issues Court Battles and to talk about this we have now with us Karen Greenberg in westchester season author and director of the center on National Security at Fordham University school of you know all and also with us. John malcolm director of the me center for legal and judicial studies thank you both for being with us. Its already starting to look tense in places like nevada and its been widely reported in the American Media over the last few days john that. President trumps plan to victory is to create doubt and challenge these results in the Supreme Court is that the plan you think. To begin to be knows what the plan is its still very early in the night no incumbent help lost yet none of those socalled or toss off senate seats or swing state have come in yet and im not sure were going to know the you know who won the selection of for several days before any lawsuits are filed michigan has said that theyre going to count their ballots for up to 3 days after the election North Carolina for up to 9 days after the election i certainly hope that there is no litigation filed by either the Trump Campaign or the Biden Campaign but i suppose in a very close election thats always a possibility Karen Greenberg do you are you as hopeful that there would be there wont be any litigation i mean were already starting to see some concerns in places like nevada and about 1000000 ballots. Yeah i mean i agree with with job dan the best Case Scenario is that there is no litigation youre right theres been a lot of talk a lot of threats particularly coming from donald trump himself that you know he would contest this in court. Im really hoping it doesnt go that way i mean lets look at whats happened today so far nothing really unexpected has happened yet some of the violence that was expected at the polls did not occur the way so many have been very police and others so i think in a way this election is playing out in a way we can kill a little safer than we did before am i think as john said theres been no upsets yet theres been nothing to to let us know we really whats going to happen a lot of the experts said that wed be able to call this by 938 tonight it doesnt look like thats going to happen not even close to that so i still you know to talk about a Supreme Court case seems to be where so it all on that if a mature but but yet john john i mean if they were to challenge is i mean how do you go about challenging any Election Results so you can only challenge the results or demand a recount when the when theres a narrow result like we saw in florida of course in 2000 do you expect a number of states to have such a close result way they could be challenges. Yes look i i think it is safe to say that both the Biting Campaign and the trunk campaign have lawyers up and they are all watching what is going on in these in these states i think there are a number of states that could be decisive where its going to be incredibly close and theyll be doing things they wont be doing what they did in florida in 2000 looking at hanging chads but theyll be looking at postmarks and comparing signatures on mail in ballots to signatures on the registry and i think both sides will be will be well represented i certainly hope it doesnt come to that those of us who are around and paying attention in 2000 still get a headache when we think about it regardless of which side you were hoping would prevail and you know for the good of the country im hoping it doesnt come to that but you know we are a very very closely divided people and we have an Electoral College system and it certainly litigation is a possibility karen you talked about the fact of course that everyone before today was talking about this want to go all the way to the Supreme Court what are the 2nd senses in which that could happen. Oh my god theres so many different circumstances in which that could happen i think john laid out some of them and weve seen it in the run up are they going to challenge the reading of the absentee ballots are they going to challenge the ones that were stopped from being read are they going to challenge the signatures and whether the signatures compare and then of course we get to the bigger issues that were raised by bush v gore one of the reasons it would not be helpful for this to go to spring court is that the Supreme Court the bush v gore it decision is really not easy to read in terms of a precedent and it didnt give us much as a country to go on and so the question is wed be in sort of a New Territory if this came to the court we just saw a writing by cavanagh in the last week which talked about the what the need for the role of the federal government to take more control over state elections so this could be much broader than just this election if it goes to the court so im really hoping it doesnt go that way for everybody but those are some of the issues all right thank you both for talking to us youre feeling very optimistic about you know this not going all the way to the courts Karen Greenberg john malcolm thank you both for your insight weve got some developments out of nevada where the Supreme Court has rejected an emergency motion filed by the campaign to stop processing a mail in ballots say weve spoken of course to rob reynolds about this last hour rob so bring us up to speed with whats happened. Well this is very relevant to the conversation that you were just having with with your guests on the panel the Supreme Court of the state of nevada has told the Trump Campaign and the state Republican Party that it will not halt the counting of ballots on an expedited basis that is right away now this dates back to several days ago when the those 2 bodies the Trump Campaign in this state Republican Party said that there were problems they alleged there were problems with the signature matching of mail in ballots the they took that to a lower court the judge in that case summarily dismissed it said they hadnt proven any factual basis for their assertions now they went today really at the last minute up to the state Supreme Court and what the Supreme Court said in a sort of a complex and split ruling was that they would not consider this on that kind of emergency basis that they would not stop the counting of the bow of the ballots a right away but the state g. O. P. The state republicans and the Trump Campaign can file a more fulsome brief by thursday and they also criticized the justices criticized the republican argument saying that they had provided any real factual backup for some of the assertions that they were making about the problems with these mail in ballots signatures but this is a folly a sign of how quickly the lawyers are pouncing on things especially in these swing states nevadas only got 6 electoral votes but it could be very important if President Trump doesnt do well in other places so he would like to have some. More assurance that that his forces would prevail in a state like nevada despite its relatively small size this ruling also allows the polls to remain open for an extra hour in clark county nevada thats the home of las vegas thats by far the biggest city in the its a kind of a democratic stronghold was won by Hillary Clinton back in 2016 or theyll stay open an hour later than scheduled because there were some problems with the balloting machines earlier in the day so thats the story from nevada we will see when the polls close what the voters have decided in that state as to who they want to be their next president rob reynolds with the nations sat on whats been happening on the west coast of the United States and thats discuss Foreign Policy some more now and under the presidency the u. S. Has become more polarized than ever before polls show americans increasing the identified by their political noise. Divided on what should be the nations priorities she is back in our d. C. Bureau with a panel of guests to discuss the divisions in the american body politic. 3 new guests join us from arizona we have namiki called stews the directorate matriarch of a Political Action committee focus in particular on low income womens issues but i should actually feel i should say Political Action committees all keys are u. S. Politics because that they raise money and without money in american politics your voice will likely to be heard at least in washington hes a former National Star of good for Bernie Sanders for president in kansas city thomas frank columnist with the call you newspaper but also the author of the legendary book whats the matter with kansas how conservatives won the heart of america and in the studio Steve Clemons once again of the bottom line here on aljazeera those friday lets talk about polarization we have this situation where both sides fear some sort of coup detat that youve written about this. And we have the democrats as we were just hearing fearing the sort of judicial moves the might subvert democracy but whats often notes not discuss is republicans do 1st look at russia gate for example and they see a Democratic Party that is willing to stop at nothing to try and remove trumps legitimacy at the ballot box with wild conspiracy theories or whatever have you ever seen anything like this that deep state they call it yeah. Well. Not exactly like this but there is this weird way in which the 2 parties continually mirror each other youll have the same fears expressed by both parties but with wildly different interpretations like the same raw emotion underneath like the Tea Party Movement remember this how they they harness peoples anger at the bailouts but directed it in this entirely different direction its it happens a lot actually but i couldnt polarize ation theres long been a key you want to action someone as well as complicated that polarization in some ways but so in tradition and out somewhat what your book was about your famous. One is whats the matter with kansas was it was trials that question which you often hear why would a working class Blue Collar Workers vote for a better get a republican. In washington and then the assumption that being that to vote for the democrats or somebody in their economic interest i suppose yeah well well theres 2 answers to that theres both what the republicans do right and what the democrats do wrong and what the republicans have done really well for the last 30 or 40 years is this game called the culture wars where they present themselves as this you know warriors against the shadowy elite you know and thats very attractive to people here in a place like kansas and what the democrats have have all along while this is been going on while the republicans have been reaching out to the hard done by if you will the democrats have been saying you know were not really interested in those people anymore where we want the sort of you know affluent white collar suburban voter the highly educated they come up with these pet names for them and stuff like that but that is playing out right now before our eyes and i mean youre at the center of that debate what does the Democratic Party actually styling for anymore. Its a great question having been on the run from committee in 2016 and and part of these fights for the last few years there is a divide and part of that is because when you look at the Democratic Party as a whole it obviously a very big tent as as thomas knows very well this is a party that used to represent working people diverse groups of working people people who dont necessarily agree and might even be afraid of each other but there was an economic platform that unify them all and so what happens when the democrats pull further and further away from union style politics and progressive economics and more towards technocratic positioning is the republicans have an opportunity to swoop in and thats thats ultimately what donald trump did and what the tea party was channeling their energy into was pointing out errors and saying you know your the reason why i am hurting economically not the policy is not its the others that dont look like them and what the democrats used to represent and i think are starting to again is no no were the party that understands working people who who may come from different perhaps backgrounds across the country need Economic Solutions to their problems and thats really kind of what the last 35 years 40 years the democrats pulled away from and i dont think they have a choice now as Steve Clemons knows so well joe biden thats thats sort of his brand right and hopefully theres going to be this moment where hes going to rise to the occasion as potentially a president to have these Economic Solutions to problems because otherwise theres no solution to this crisis but to go big bold and progress in a 2nd but the very key that i mean that that the noises were hearing from the bike and camp yes we have some progressive voices but we also hear lots about healing going back to how things were bringing republicans into the cabinet you know going back to brunch places you know you were there balling i know you you know have to talk about it live the wonderful thing about you know going but also you have to think about politics anymore just leave it to us you can go back to brunch i mean thats what will happen if biden becomes. And he just goes about their ball mobile i think the problem is this is not 8002008. 5 and then we just sort of not to cry off the ball and then again suddenly Larry Geitner got excuse me and Larry Summers where they heard solve all of our problems this time its going to come from the ground up because folks are organized there on the streets theyre angry about Racial Injustice and systemic inequality and theyre not going to let joe biden appoint all these republicans to the cabinet i am really hoping that is just intellectual. I mean i really hope so and if it was all i dont you know what i dont care at this. Musty promises here not to have him because hes always go to his ear and with the elites well so i dont. Really so you know i mean i think what he just said is so import because back in 2008 there was a mckinsey report called why offshoring is great for america and great for americans and it was one of these crazy reports of the officers that were trying to you know to to defend the offshoring of american jobs from the midwest from kansas from wherever they may be the authors of that report went to work in the Barack Obama Administration they became part of that one of the people who is somewhat upset about that was joe biden you have to understand after the 0809 financial crisis there was a team of economic advisors you know miki mentioned some of them you know tim geithner summers Gene Sperling Austin Goolsbee and others but theyre getting Jared Bernstein who is bidens economic guy who said were doing it wrong but they were in the minority we have to watch and see what happens with that minority view now becoming the majority the dominant the president ial view and whether or not hell remember have the courage of his convictions that microeconomics whats happening for real people in the ground matters or not otherwise if he does take what she just called the brunch route branch out is not a good option you know dont frankly surely theyre working closely just going to see the same. When in trouble they had with obama given that. Its the 1st to get bell that is once again wall street very much opposed as go bomb and 2008 off the economic crash surely that should be a fact they should write about with trying not to mention all the races divisional stuff. You know youre absolutely right of course and the pandemic itself is just so absolutely maddening and to have such lousy president ial leadership in a time like this but but isnt it also why the polls are closed well. Ok so let me get to that theres of the other thing you have remember is that joe biden is not Hillary Clinton ok so hes not hes not a hated individual that republicans worked on Hillary Clinton for 30 years joe biden is fundamentally a guy that everybody likes you know hes a great friend maker he likes speaking in union halls hes very comfortable around those kind of voters and i think thats probably going to be thats probably going to be enough for him tonight but im sorry that you and i you said something really interesting and ive already forgotten what it was what did you just say when you say it is what it is and why the polls are closed i mean it is what it at the polls it hasnt in the rest of us that is a that is a great question and i am puzzled by that myself but its because ultimately the democrats for all of almost all of my well all of my life have been trying to eke out little you know minimal wins by appealing to this this sort of white collar suburban demographic that we were talking about earlier you know the. Creative class or whatever it is that they call them instead of going big instead of doing the Franklin Roosevelt i was looking today at the results from 1906 Franklin Roosevelts 2nd 2nd president ial election where he won all the states but 2 you know thats what democrats used to do we used to deliver results like that and the only way you deliver deliver results like that is as no miki just said you go big on progressive Economic Issues very quickly then that made you want to. One of blood loses despite all these compromises what i was the Democratic Party that interim slims who i mean you have to see in the squad in court bush was just elected tonight you have the case of amy mcgrath not being able to take on Mitch Mcconnell when we could have had booker i mean you you we have the last 4 years and the wave of progressive that have gotten elected and hopefully will continue to get elected will really be dictating what the Democratic Party does you know there was a big internal fight over the rules and the makeup and i was part of that i just think demographics are moving so much in favor of progressive ideas and frankly i think that neo liberals even are going to have to start backing some of these bold ideas because if trump wins theres the alternative is i mean theres no inbetween theres no incrementalism thats going to get us out of this one job or Hillary Clinton side incrementalism is the safe bet thats not going to solve our problems thats not going to get people out of their affections thats not going to get people. Free healthcare which they need right now with code thats not tied to their employment thats not going to get people jobs thats not going to get people childcare pay off their Student Loans you need big Bold Solutions to the economic crisis that were facing which already existed precode it and it is just going to get to getting worse and worse and with that i just want to say one more thing as i think you know the Biden Administration cant afford to make the mistakes of the Obama Administration in 2008 and you do you have a very awake group of voters and a rising millennial. Diverse progressive and extremely and along with gen z. That they have to respond to that is going to be the base of the party as the rest of the base the Party Continues to age out so i think were going to see a huge the Seismic Shift in party like up after this election and im excited to see where that goes though we give back thank you very much and even our memphis not talking about deficit spending enough so i guess things of tourist dollars for our guard steve let me thank you very much but before she had thank you and nonis check in with come on and. And 7 states and updates on whats going on here a while ago i did a scenario where if joe biden flips and Southern States he could get straight just to 70 i want to check in on those states again because well as we know hes not doing very well in one of them and that is the state of florida. Just the fact that were 95 percent reporting is really quite something and that laid only extending for donald trump now up 2380000 votes the difference i think you would know i wont say safely say this is going to trump. But very very solid for him at the moment so couple of other states in the south then a florida is not going so well for joe biden house North Carolina going its actually very very close there almost 825000 vote difference out of 5000000. 00 votes counted so far nearly 70 percent of those joe biden doing well in some areas where Hillary Clinton did well for example which is around charlotte the biggest city in North Carolina joe biden actually 50000 votes ahead of where Hillary Clinton was in that same area 4 years ago in fact hes ahead in all the major cities really the charlotte. Raleigh durham as well so good news for joe biden coming out of North Carolina and georgia is the other one i want to look at that was the 3rd one in my scenario a little bit earlier where nearly up to halfway there and donald trump is comfortably ahead at this stage the interesting thing is that the areas where joe biden needs to over perform havent been counted yet so this is another one of those ones which might be slightly skewed at the moment even though were looking at 50 percent of precincts reporting its skewed because of the geography and because of the precincts which have reported already the ones which havent ones which could be better for joe biden so we keep an eye on georgia as well lets add one more state though on to a map or on to our projection the winners and that is colorado which we can now confirm for the democratic candidate joe biden which means when we look at the map the state of the race as we like to call it this is how it looks at the moment 131 plays 92. Weve colored a few more states in yellow at this stage texas yellow being too close to call of course weve gone from too early to call too too close to call florida resort of a were putting North Carolina higher as well as being too close and texas as well so there are a good number of Electoral College votes there you took about 38 in texas utah in about 18 in ohio and of course the 29 in florida so theres a lot in play then now ill just pop out way so you can see the full numbers there of 131 which is playing 92 for donald trump at the moment the time is 43. 00 g. M. T. So in 15 minutes the polls will close at over 300 hours g. M. T. And they will close in these states just the 4 of them montana nevada utah and iowa so well be keeping a close eye on iowa and nevada as well robin its of the reporting on the situation there a little bit earlier so thats coming up in about 15 minutes or so being very cautious about florida even though trump has because all of the lead there because its florida 537 votes in 2000 right never forget never forget thank you now everyones watching this election of course and we are going to talk about Foreign Policy some more now to china and chinese leaders watching this u. S. Election very closely after relations deteriorated to the noahs point in decades President Trump started an effective trade war saying the u. S. Has been ripped off by china for years katrina you has a report from beijing. Concert honoring the people of time and those who lost their lives during the korean a virus pandemic entitled dedicated to 2020 and the film to turn to beijing Music Festival behind the. Spying since. Its a collective a piece that provoke. The true Human Emotion that we need compassion and love and thats the solution more than anything else you know the gathering is but since the corona Virus Outbreak began the worlds 2 largest power as the u. S. And china have never seemed more far apart this was joined. The Trump Administration has leveled almost weekly attacks in beijing over its role in the pen demick and other issues its been unrelenting pressure on beijing whether its taiwan tibet hong kong. The south china seas. Casting all sorts of aspersions and doubts about chinas technology separating the economies this is covered great cost chinas leaders are watching the u. S. Election closely many believe a new u. S. President will provide an opportunity to brief set relations Business Leaders are hoping for a biden presidency and a reversal of tariffs imposed during the 3 a trade war between the 2 countries but analysts say the overall relationship will remain strained regardless of who wins if biden wins the presidency it definitely not mean that chinas International Environment is Getting Better its definitely not Getting Better and people say bidens more corporative it is he is the last interested in the trade war related stuff but to his very much interested in getting alliance against the china. And biden have attacked beijing for alleged human rights abuses and should junk tibet in hong kong encouraging other western democracies to do the same many in china believe washington is intent on containing that country and unfairly targeting Chinese Companies students and journalists its led to a wave of anti u. S. Sentiment here and increased sense of nationalism president xi jinping really comments on. U. S. But its called on Chinese People to focus on rebuilding the domestic economy and becoming less reliant on Foreign Technology while the election of a new president in the white house may signal a return to a more conventional style of diplomacy many here believe the age of friendly relations between the u. S. And china will remain a thing of the past. Aljazeera peaching so whats the future of the u. S. China relationship lets bring in our panel in washington d. C. We have Laurel Miller asia director for the International Crisis group also in d. C. Joining us once again James Carafano Vice President of the katherine and shelby colum Davis Institute for National Security and Foreign Policy at the Heritage Foundation and senior political analyst marwan nora let me start with you when it comes to the u. S. China relationship the secretary general of the United Nations antone of the terrace has warned of a global fracture do you see it this way as a world of 2 power blocs potentially its that way and it seems to be heading in that direction ever more there is no question or the United States how to engage with china how to compete with china is going to be the defining or in policy if you look are those who really was the selection but i do think there will be enormous differences in how bad relationship is how bold and what kind of policy towards china the United States has to any upon whether its strong or biden. James when donald trump speaks about china of course weve seen the relationship deteriorate considerably under this administration when trump speaks about china its all about trade he doesnt talk about human rights nationalism regional tensions does he care about these issues at all or is it is a using them as leverage in his ongoing trade war with beijing. Well this is one where i think it will be really interesting because unlike all the other countries around the world that the United States has concern about russia iran north korea china has a lot of cards to play and in part regardless of who wins a lot will depend on how the chinese play this and i think thats actually the bigger issue here are the chinese authorities signaled that theyre going to come much more internally focused are going to focus on Domestic Production becoming more domestically independent consolidating political control theyre anticipating more and pressure from the outside world regardless of the result of the u. S. Election the reality is yes the United States has been tough on human rights theyve been on Security Issues territorial issues like the south china seas diplomatic issues are supporting india and its a border has been so yes its been tough on china across the board i think thats actually but bipartisan the United States i think many allies in other countries are are trending in that direction i think china knows this is coming and theyre their expectation is a more well a more adversarial environment from external actors to china i think that they see that as in their mind do you agree that do you think the u. S. Has really been tougher with china then than any other country when it comes not just to trade better either nations like human rights to solve the site china sea tensions and so on well certainly it trumps hasnt been but also could i agree with that to a promise that china is probably the most formidable challenge to the United States in the 21st century it is going to be the dominant challenge of the 21st century so is what has the administration been up to task absolutely not in fact that was shocked yes to everything the Washington Post editorial. That the deficit the trade deficit with china has not changed since President Trump took office that was an amazing news to me what was even more amazing of course that trade deficit internationally has grown from the present shock so this whole issue about the trade wars didnt exactly work for him but at the same time he walked away from the Transpacific Partnership which actually ensured some form of economic containment of china or some sort of a more of a leverage on china he would draw from that and what we have left with is some sort of man to man to zuma view with president xi and present trump but certainly did not work out because president xi does not work according to that kind of a new york temperament if you will and we end up today with the United States. Worse advantage than it was in 2016 loreal so many flashpoints when it comes to this relationship so many flashpoints to consider is of course the mass attention of wigglers in st john you know that the ongoing crackdown in hong kong what is the most concerning to you and how do you think the u. S. Should deal with a more assertive china because this is what were seeing right now china becoming more sensitive on the well stage. Yeah i mean one question which china is more assertive on the world stage and internally more repressive over the last several years than it had been in the past the trumpet ministration from himself personally has been obsessive leave focus on trade issues and in a very narrow way focused really pretty much just on trying to get china to buy more American Products in order to boost his own Electoral Prospects and as marwan said i mean even that hasnt worked out particularly well i think what you would see in a buying the administration through stiff or most is a renewed emphasis and the heightened them as compared to even past on american alliances. And on american cooperation with european allies with respect to china i think theres an understanding broadly in a bipartisan way but not here at least shared by president himself that it is the United States alone cannot take on the challenge of china assertiveness and this has to be done in a multilateral way if there is any prospect of tempering that a service and binding china to some International Norms that benefit everyone so you know far as james on this what would be the most effective way to face up to china. Well i think the u. S. Is challenging china across the board and quite honestly i think the other panelists have ignored all the key indicators if you look at the Alliance Structure in the pacific with the offer example u. S. India Australia Japan the great democracies alliance much much much stronger look in the south china sees us as much more serve infinitely more. Freedom of navigation other countries coming in germany doing. Other countries in the region standing up to look at europe for example in 5 to just a few years ago nobody had an issue of 5 thats changed significantly weve already had several country band 5 g. And while away from 5 g. Entirely many other youre going that way so actually all indicators suggest that people are lining up to deal with the concerns of chinas global you stabilising behavior and i think thats just the reality and i think that will continue regardless of what happens in the election tonight whether its republican or democrat running the white house mind you you have the last word what would be the most effective way to deal with this rising chinese into into whether you know the us or or the elite the European Countries that are also adding to deal with china. Alliances alliances alliances there is absolutely no way for the United States to be standing up to china while that same time making an enemy out of europe and not exist and another exactly what king out some serious stuff with india and japan lets all remember when trying for 10 into the white house he was only talking about lifting the Nuclear Umbrella not protecting just japan and north and south korea in case they were attacked so all in all this has been destabilizing to american persisted allies having said all of that let me say the following 40 there is no way to take on china china is going to be an asia power it is persistent that way it probably deserves to be if theyre not says going to be global power and china is going to be an asian power because this is the this is the step before becoming a global power and i think nothing is going to stop china from becoming an asian a global power and the question is how and what role will an asia power a global power china clique in the world would it be a responsible player or would it be and a responsible player is it going to be continue to be addicted to ship or sort or is going to open up and be a response about that International Relations all right thank you very much myron bashara James Carafano thank you for talking to us there about the u. S. China relationship and what the future may look like for this relationship now we have polls closing in about 5 minutes or so on town in nevada utah and of course. Kemal will be here with the latest and they join is continuing our coverage i will leave you now with a look at how the media and social media have become war zones during Donald Trumps 1st 10 he is rich it gets back. Donald trumps inauguration set the tone from that day when he flat out lied about the size of the crowd it was clear that the u. S. News media did not know what to make of the president s on again off again relationship with the truth series of well we have to label it untruths we now have a case where hes made another charge and he has not got evidence why are we surprised that such a racist theres until donald trump came along the White House Press corps had been reluctant to accuse any american president of lying that is no longer the case the Washington Post has counted how many times trump has lied or misled americans the number is more than 22000 forcing journalists to call it what it is this president is a serial liar and he seriously lie tonight how do you defend 22000 false wits by attacking and calling the Media Outlets reporting on them fake news the Dishonest Media nobody has any idea how corrupt the media is just like its a nasty question one false story after another you are the enemy of the people who are you. With this administration constantly misleading citizens journalists have grown ever more reliant on leaks from disgruntled white house insiders ex insiders turned pundits or ex cabinet officials turned authors some of those leaks have proven to be misleading and have come back to bite the news outlets that bought into them remember russia gate the allegations that russia might have been gathering material video of mr trump it could be used to blackmail him stories of russian meddling in the 2016 election and allegations the Truck Campaign and the kremlin had worked together complete with that sexy cold war angle were too much for news channels not named fox to resist the eventual retractions were damaging since they lent the president s fake news narrative some credibility we actually correcting a story that we have been reporting throughout the day today the us media landscape divided before donald trump was elected has since grown far more polarized in one corner the. Liberal side including outlets like c. N. N. M s n b c and the New York Times in the other fox news broadcast upstarts like one america news and conservative platform such as the Christian Broadcasting Network and the Washington Times which oh theyre resurgent audiences to the president time and again americans have seen those rival journalistic camps take the same new story and spin it in entirely Different Directions the covert 1000 story has proven to be much harder for fox and its ilk to manipulate since there is no way to spin infection rates and mortality figures if donald trump loses this election prepare to see some journalists claiming at least some of the credit calling it a victory for the 4th estate some of them will be justified to a certain extent there are news outlets that have been locking horns with the president for years producing some adversarial quality d journalism along the way but until 2020 they failed to really move the needle in fact fewer Americans Trust their news media today than in 2016 what it took to sink donald trump in the polls was covert 19 and the science hard data it doesnt lie and try as he might the president has no answer for that. Hello im Adrian Finighan and this is out of 0 special coverage of the 2020 us elections it is over 300 hours g. M. T. 10 pm in washington d. C. The white house still very much up for grabs these scenes outside the white house right now protesters have been gathering there. In whats known as black lives matter plaza over the past few hours