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Elections 2020. 5 of the ok and youre watching the stream today tomo in front soft an attacker entered a Catholic Church in the french city of nice and killed 3 people last week the french president of manual mccraw called the instant an islamist terror attack on the french counts of muslim faith condemned the violence and said that it stood in solidarity with the victims and their families today we all skase fronts at breaking point if youre watching or you change you can join the chat to be part of the days conversation if youre following via twitter you know our twitter handle act a. J. Stream. So how does france plan to deal with acts of domestic terrorism and at the same time accusations of islamophobia and what does all of this mean for the countrys relationship with islam and muslims presently chrono address some of these questions last week and an interview with my aljazeera arabic colleague i asked. Getting a little sweet good issues i think thats all political and religious leaders who dont clearly condemn any violence towards france which is a country of freedom unlike humans have a responsibility sometimes directly but certainly indirectly for the violence which might be perpetrated against french people in france or abroad could please you dont you. Joining our discussion we have rym sara shes a legal scholar who focuses on religious freedom and Civil Liberties in france their fees hammys is an associate fellow at the International Center for counterterrorism in london and nasser latty director of the justice and liberties for committee in paris it is wonderful to have all of you here it is terrible to have you here to talk about this particular topic let me share with you a tweet i know youve seen this one this is from among your more calm president of france and he says here im going to use the french translation it is france which is under attack i have therefore decided that soldiers will be mobilized in the coming hours as part of operation sentinel we will go from 30027000 soldiers room sara the mood in france right now to you feel like your country is under attack. Im terrified im extremely terrifying but honestly. It took me a while to understand what was going on. And. I couldnt process it as a french citizen as. Lying what kind of human is capable of doing such horrific crimes is something that goes beyond me and unfortunately what happened after did not help the brouhaha in the media or the confusion but care as it was extremely scary its really really terrifying i dont know where were going yes this is not the 1st time youve had this conversation where people are what is going on in france can you understand it can unpack it for us but if youre feeling. Personally if youre showing housley how you are at this moment do you feel under attack. With your thoughts of 2015. Spoken to said muslim is a hard no there are no right to grieve her right after the generally attacks the november attacks and the subsequent attacks when a 16 and defeating is duds you barely have time to collect your thoughts and feel sorry for whats going on and for me i was born and raised in paris i was diamond i actually had to you know and i can speak about it now years later a physical burnout from the amount of 4 that was done because i did not have any time to kind of you know sit and just you know and my family was telling me yes respect sometimes you have the right to grieve and for me it was like now its that the government is a you know is doing this and they are going to happen again eccentric such were so and it got to worse where my son is now you know turning 12 years he has himself interior internalized the idea that and i think may happen in the bus in the park in the movie and its its frightening beyond any description when you have a child whos supposed to look at the movie with you to the movies whos mean with his father and hes already looking around and thats not normal thats not a sort of a fear we should be going through and when i said some years ago that this is a new norm or for us in france i said it but i did not expect it to kind of be oppressed tone to kids because my son when the attack of the. Took place his school was a few blocks away from the shooting and i was courting us i was teaching and i was told that there was a shooting going on in the high proportion there was a hostage situation and an hour of the more cycle and i had to walk like that money enough by feet expecting the worst of all which we expect you know you know god forbid they know that this school got shot and and must son was actually a i guess like you know 9 years old but then again if you get the numbers straight and took him from the police and that day he said daddy whats terrorism what is a terrorist. But to conclude. I look at must saw that was being deprived of some of his childhood and i look at him and i can tell youve got to one day another attack would take place and they would ask you to apologize for weed dissimilarly talking to me on c. N. N. Were. Going to vote i was you know live when there was arts with it was sponsored before the drugs and nothing and i see i said im not going to go into that because thats that thats another network and as a network that doesnt have a sensibilities here on the strain but i do want to pick up on what you said about your little boy. Yes is a little boy like this is the new normal for his little boy is this how you would look at france right now that domestic terrorism is to be expected. Well i mean its a strange question because even myself even though im not a french citizen i went to school in france and i studied i did interviews with people who were radicalized in france and the time of the shot we have there were turks in 2015 someone who was very near and dear to me who was in a very high level position in the previous french government called me and said this is a socialist this is person on the left wing and said now do you understand now do you understand why we hate muslims in france and this was incredibly violent you know rhetorical reaction that i got knowing that i grew up in a muslim household. You know it was it was it was shocking to me and this was just a taste for me you know im an outsider and this is what i think a lot of people who are being raised in parts of and sort of you know muslim neighborhoods if you want to call them that areas and friends this is what they suspect people think and as someone whos been on the inside who is whos worked with the government unfortunately will this rhetoric is not common in the wake of these terrorist attacks they do become comment which unfortunately speaks to the success of this terrorist attack and all these terrorist attacks i want to terrorise blows up a bomb the actual the blast radius is not the actual physical blast radius that was being injured by definition a terrorist attack is where the targets the actual physical targets are not the primary targets theres actually a virtual blast radius that theyre trying to create which affects the Public Discourse how politicians respond how the common public responds turning neighbors upon neighbors creating divisions within society and groups like al qaida and isis have written about this explicitly in various manuals and so the very fact that were even here having this conversation unfortunately speaks to the success of that that. When you were speaking and when you told that. When sarah you did what i did i did internally cry a waitress. Yeah and on your show you were very young i saw you do that asma says what are the reasons this is asma on you tube what is the reasons behind the rise of a slope is of some islamophobia in france that is a documentary that will probably take weeks to actually put together but if you could power it to rise it for her what would she say. From where to start really unfortunately in turn will soon be a tree is not near what. I mean if you really want to understand its history you have to go back to to a colony of france and especially in north africa where muslims were not even considered french citizens either time you know gerry especially but indigenous and where related to do not apply to them because of playing like french secularism to the persons would mean giving them the same right and the same status as you know other french citizens. After decades of these asian we had an influx of immigrants. You know after 962. View that muslim is. Cannot be part of the west that there is a sort of. You know for a bit of muslims coming to take all over you know but the if like musician of your of this near that basically its like muslims cannot integrate has been growing for quite a long time and especially since the nineteens with the 1st cases of headscarf affairs the matter was utilized and this is where we are so on the legal level or a. Mainstream position if i can use like this where the board of bigotry is so lazy to have for example that implies a state neutrality towards religion that protects religious freedom by imposing state and you know a religious neutrality upon the state has now been weaponized and use that a Political Tool for political identity reasons targets muslims and try to make them invincible in the Public Square so we have some room thank you you do that so beautifully and so tightly a movie also has another idea of why theres so much islamophobia in and shes pointing the finger at politicians and the leadership of this and that the. Board out in some people is the most got behind them 1000000 for to have islam and. Muslims from work hard and noble to. Justify even so all the time for which we will be for. A real divide as we have to live against terrorism unfortunately this is not what is happening racist and some of the political figures use these masses. To appear in the media in hatred and thats makes me really angry yes or is that fair to say that france is politicians or some of them are flooding the flames of islamophobia is that possible. Actually i tend to disagree with. With all due respect but also for who says does islamophobia in france comes from the top and its because of the elites already there was definitely a grassroots acceptance office time of year and you would see it oftentimes in the interaction between good. Diaries are with the end to no lies idea or types of you know what arabs are about what people are about what asian people are about for example well for example a dot in the arab is framed as a thief of the arab woman is framed as a woman who needs to be freed of the black people black people are free and you know you would like you know no good at sports eccentric and oftentimes you see dogs at the intellectual subjects for example when you are in school are oftentimes it kept away from the unknown white kids i went through it myself and you know throughout my my school you know my smile might made occasion years in the public schooling system it was constantly there from that to push me out a system to like you know learn like you know to become electrician number they called in my parents and i want to become a pirate for if since i was in Primary School and to them it wasnt acceptable that iraq would be abided but i dont want to know to keep it all on this i want to just will bounce back on what the reams said in terms of how full of you know odds its own architecture and unlike what many people think of broad for the past 30 years it predominantly came from the left and there were what you call the secular fundamentalists. Inferential where the 1st ones are again as i am said to one in the early ninetys were the 1st you know opens a going for the burning of the headscarf in Public Schools and of course despite the council of the state which is the highest at least where people throw it in front saying no kids of the right to wear the headscarf in schools know they manage within 15 years they were. From being a loud minority to being a majority capable of passing this nation into day as the the lady said just before me did you not only used to cover up your government screw ups to buy them a language now the same time to always find the perfect skin go through it to nationally going to meet with National Security threats or National Identity and thats what it is very difficult to dismantle because there is a deep profound architecture not only for any muslims are the problem but many didnt give them a surge anything done and i just yeah i mean hes got that but i just jump in and theres like a little anecdote id like to share with you guys i mean in 2000 and late 2602070 i was doing a little work with the former Prime Ministers Office manual of all this office on their counter Narrative Campaign it was basically a social Media Campaign to try to curb radicalization that was called stop this and i told them very frankly that this is not going to work this is a subversive a movement that sees themselves antiestablishment and you have a government government sponsored web site that the french flag on the corner trying to tell them not to radicalize the ludicrousness not going to have any impact and they said to me oh we know this is a counter Radicalization Campaign although its talking about jihadism what were actually trying to do is curb the far right because the far right will say were not doing that enough if were not doing the sort of active handwaving act that seems like were strong and muscular and anti jihad this link radicalization and so were doing that to calm them down so this is a common theme that a lot of politicians believe if i can come out an acolyte i am very against what the job that are doing it will keep the right wing calm however if you look at whats up in the United States as donald trump came into into office and he started fanning more of this. Rhetoric it didnt it didnt have this cathartic effect that everyone thinks as it actually fanned the flames even more because it normalize this kind of language and it gave people permission to think some of these thoughts were expressed some of these books so the very hypotheses that a lot of prime ministers and president s and chancellors use that if i just come out and say some of what the right wing is thinking then the right wing will be placated just doesnt seem to be borne out by the evidence. In fact if i may because i find extremely. Relevant. Basically today in france. And turn muslim bigotry. Comes is now a Business Model they monetize on these fear. And basically today for example we have an equivalent of fox news in france it seems and this is the narrative has been so diva log that nobody is questioning it anymore and muslims has been left completely out of the conversation and in what i find extremely worrying is how you know we say we need to prove that we need to fight the fire right back cetera but i always say the fire right may not be in power indeed but it spirit is. There research and normalization of the feeling that even a question becomes a bit like they think youre suspicious if you start questioning it you know putting. Going after Civil Liberties going after the basic notion many pleading lace to do we use later to for everything and nothing and i honestly think its its extremely worrying and dangerous in the latest events unfortunately have proven that so thank you for sharing this anecdote because i think its really speaks volume guess i feel like we have had islamophobia conversations about france so many times but im just picking up on the basher a tweet that you shared after each terrorist attack there was no question about the failures of the state that fails to stop these attacks instead to state scapegoats muslims and takes more power all the while violating peoples human rights if were looking at this from a counterterrorism perspective nephis. Help us from lets deal with this what are they to. Well i think the problem is not to look at a necessarily just as a Counter Terrorism perspective that actually is the way the french government tends to look at it very much in terms of police and intelligence domestically and intelligence and military abroad what the french government has a hard time investing as much effort there although it doesnt but some effort then is counter and violent extremism or countering radicalization or preventing violent extremism theres different words but basically it all kind of comes down to we have to change the susceptibility of society in the 1st place to extremist narratives and that susceptibility Largest Group actually what does that mean machines that what is that so partially so partially what most governments ocus on is what they call counter narrative that these messages they just put out on websites and hoping that someone will be attracted to it because they assume that the reason why people like terrorist groups or whatever is because of the propaganda thats just naive. An Extremist Organization offer someone so many things that offers them identity and offer them a sense of belonging and actual brotherhood and sisterhood and offers them a pathway to purpose and meaning ive talked to multiple people who want to isis to join who went to syria to join eyes that are almost were and the one thing they said is what you want to do become a become a bagger in a Grocery Store or go potentially be a revolutionary was going to go change the world theyre being all theyre being offered the opportunity to plus press reset on the video game of life and to come back as a better character with a whole new life and so i mean you cant like completely offer exactly that to just normal things and but if you leave start funding Civil Society organizations and n. G. O. S and so forth who are at least are trying to offer people in these local communities think about this the majority of people who went to syria to go join isis came from just 10 neighborhoods in france you dont need to do and nationwide program here why not invest a little bit of those efforts in france i was in lu know the city that had the highest per capita rate of people who went to syria and i was going around talking and there was police. And there were intelligent they didnt the surveillant people but there was pretty much no prevention or counter and Violent Extremism Program there was one typical by the organization i met the guy who ran it you could hear 20 7000. 00 euro near the pay him though and the pay the overhead of building how is he actually going to combat radical i think and among the that kind of budget i want to bring in 1. 00 more voice for the french people that we spoke to. Damian and damian was how he was trying to be hopeful as have a nice and. So addition between friends and islam is very complex and if i want to speak about to propose and we need to if you were speaking about secure his speaking about could he about still he best friends and speaking about poverty but yes the situation is very tense weve heard of islamophobia among the population and among political leader us and the right of our rights most ph but of. There is also people also a lot of fringe peoples who stands against zuma sophia and who stands for peace and so. Just looking at some of the comments here on new cheaper allow hi her lao thanks for being part of the conversation shes wondering why france is blaming islam or says im french you will never have unity and harmony in this country as long as this freedom of speech is used to create scandal and. Asked is the french secular law take ive put that in there because she said i forgot the official name for it applied equally to all religions is there some movement to adjust it a lot is really what you are saying is it almost been used to weaponize. An idea which is supposed to protect people of all face and its been used to weaponize it this is a pressing conversation. And fisa and. Youre back here again talking about the same thing is this a different time from the last time we spoke to you. We are seeing the beginning of the show is this a is this a breaking point for france is it just briefly i think it is because when you see the amount of the emerging poor layers of education being lost and i think and i agree or what im to know if you did not see is that when the government of mobile virus has been a notorious example forward for the bust in of these 2 you know 15 years or is that their next to last the bottle of ideas because since you have been carrying the ideas of the 4 white new pushing for more security measures your identity syria they lift that seed they have adopted the mindset of the forward thinking they can you know beat them in their own game the other problem is not that simple youre going to count you know or whatever what the guy was ition they think is a they they want to tackle they have legitimacy whatsoever you can to send the one morning or yes thing up finish a sale its just just one point is that there was a Domestic Intelligence report you know pushing 24000 it said that the repression model is a failure we need to reach out to communities the dream reports it means of this approach based on blaming and repressing is not working within the government then also might be going to make it theres always more to say in a feast thank you very much from south we thank you i will irish that i never have to have you on the street ever again to talk about this topic but i know thats probably not the case thank you so much i think part of this conversation and ill say for thing on each each of us appreciate you very much all right so coming up next we have an Instagram Live guest at 2030 g. 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