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Critical that when we talk about the infection rate you can expect at going on from that the number of hospital admissions to rise and then the death rates to rise so there is more to come and so this is a pretty bad picture. We will just remind you of the breaking news on aljazeera this friday u. S. President donald trump announcing that israel and sudan have agreed to normalize relations when this happened sudan would become the 3rd arab nation this year to do such a deal this was donald trump in the oval office not long ago he held a phone call with israels Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu earlier he had told congress he was removing sudan from a list of state sponsors of terrorism as well the removal from that list has been a top priority for sudans Transitional Government Transitional Government as it tries to revive its economy. Its sudan they wanted to do a deal and that was it particularly nice because they essentially veteran war with israel for. A long time i dont know if it was fighting i dont know that but probably theres been a little bit but certainly its been for many years youve been officially at war with sudan and now its not only the deal was signed but its peace so thats official. Yeah we have at least 5 that want to come in. So i dont know trump indicating that perhaps israel and sudan were at war for many years so that this was a peace deal a stretch you might say from the u. S. President s we have our correspondents in place right across the region on this story and well be speaking to them of course again during the news hour which is in about 25 minutes from now well be joined by our senior political analyst mo and bashara as well i am sure in the meantime we leave you with the latest edition of inside story with hashanah. Over. Donald Trump Defends his. But joe biden dog days ahead so how is cope with 19 shaping the president ial race in the u. S. And hes. Been saying this is inside story. Hello welcome to the program. U. S. President donald trump and Democratic Party nominee joe d biden have held the 2nd and final debate less than 2 weeks before the election the threat of having them back with phones muted laws due to interruptions making for a less chaotic event than the fast that still spawns about the Coronavirus Response racism in america and accused of corruption will bring in our panel of guests to discuss this but 1st this report from our white house correspondent. It was a stark contrast from the 1st debate fewer interruptions and more substantial discussion with the 2 president ial hopefuls donald trump and joe biden who most respected the rules the moderator even earned a rare compliment from the u. S. President so far i respect very much the way you handle the debate opened with a disagreement. Over the handling of the covert pandemic thats left more than 223000 people dead in the United States were learning to live with it we have no choice we cant lock ourselves up in a basement like. You know were learning to live with people learning to die with proper insists a vaccine is just weeks away even as most scientists suggest it could be moderates and infections in the United States are surging trump lash back suggesting bidens policies to lock down the country are draconian and would hurt families and Small Businesses trump and biden also took aim at their respective alleged foreign entanglements trump hitting biden on his sons business dealings with ukraine and china and whether biden put policies in place as Vice President that helped to sun profit i have not taken a penny from any foreign shores ever in my life we learned this president paid 50 times the tax in china as a secret bank account with china biden lash back accusing trump of cozy relationships with russian president Vladimir Putin and north Korean Leader kim jong il good its a relationship trump defended claiming its prevented conflict and tensions he inherited from the Obama White House it was a very dangerous period in my 1st 3 months before we sort of work things out a little bit ok there was a very good they left us a mess what has he done hes legitimize north korea hes talked about his good buddy whos a fog has already gone and we had a Good Relationship with hitler before he in fact invaded and domestic policy trump tried repeatedly to portray bidens policies as extreme and too little too late considering his years of government he alleged of biden presidency would bring the United States closer to socialism when it comes to Health Care President tragically he was there on tour 47 years he didnt do as america continues to grapple with the. Of Racial Injustice property tax bided for his role in passing a 994. 00 crime bill that locked up a disproportionate number of africanamericans for possessing a small amount of drugs he never did a thing except in 1094 when he did such harm to the black community and they were called and he called them super predators 100 voted for a bill on drugs and how to deal with drunks it was a mistake on Climate Change trump defended his decision to withdraw the United States from the Paris Climate Accord stating he believed it was too costly for Small Business but when biden suggested the u. S. Should move away from an economy based on oil trump had this response oh i will transition because usually what im saying is youre going to destroy the whole industry the final president ial debate was supposed to be about policy and that is exactly what American Voters got with 47000000 ballots already cast theres little time for either candidate to win new voters can really help al jazeera nashville tennessee. Joining us. In washington d. C. Franco a republican strategist is also former adviser to senator john mccain in Salt Lake City utah rick wilson cofounder of the Lincoln Project and author of everything from dies in os will clock back soko former North Carolina state democrat senator and elected delegate to the National Democratic Convention Welcome or to the program a doll for. As a republican i think the general mood yesterday was this was going to be a game changer for trump in other way this could be his last chance do you think this was a waste of the porch and it. Well i dont think it was a wasted opportunity and i was happy to see that there was an opportunity to have a contrast between the 2 candidates you know for most we can certainly double into the details here go back and forth on on the points that were discussed during the debate but generally for the American People in the voters its you asking about it being a game changer its an impression that is left. And for my take on the impression is at the end of the the evening you have again donald trump as a nonpolitician an outsider with results thats what he was projecting the other side joe biden is a person whos been in washington for nearly 50 years in key positions in government and insider part of washington and what the American People still want to continue with that course of action without frankly results and there id say this just very quickly. Bob gates who was the secretary of defense for Vice President biden and president. Obama said that in his book in his reaffirmed it that joe biden was wrong on every decision in his entire career so you had a candidate and i think trump hit him hard on this saying im going to im going to im going to do the following things why have you done it and thats why i think the impressed and i think in the next 12 days with a quarter for americans to see and whether they will agree with that particular characterization rick do you have do you think they that term can still change the subject area of the race. I think its very late in the game i think last night donald trump needed a knockout blow against joe biden he didnt get it joe biden decided to survive the fight and he did but you know the idea that donald trump can can change himself as a person something that we as americans learned is not a possibility weve also learned that that you know the vectors of this campaign in swing states are moving away from donald trump not toward him. You know right now hes tied in texas right now hes beginning to lose ground in kansas he still had these lose ground in kansas one of the most red states in the country so you know that without some Shocking Development in the campaign right now you know americans are exhausted by the incompetence of a truck the mouthpiece its a truck and theyre looking at a different set of choices on another 3rd i think its a very difficult to change the game at this point ok klock the the handling of the pandemic was a key issue during the debate and throughout the the campaign do you think that by does aggressive federal action and but who are talking about the doc when i had this could be playing to his advantage in the ne in the coming days oh absolutely i think biden made a great statement when he said i will shut down the virus i dont want to shut down the country and the ultimate insider in washington is to present the United States. Donald trump is the president of the United States so what has happened in kovel 19 in the pandemic ultimately responsibility is donald trump you cannot walk away from the fact that 220000000 people have died 40 seance are in hospitals today and ourselves and people were dying every single day donald trump had to do 2 things last night he had to show the American People that he had a plan to deal with the pandemic which he did not and the other thing was he had to hope that joe biden would fall into space joe biden is sitting on the lead but he didnt sit on that lead last night he went on the attack and he showed the American People basically the change here that is wanted is someone with the direction to decide what to do with the pandemic how to handle Global Warming how to deal with the racial issues and a plan in a vision for the future and thats what he did last night adolfo when you have in some surveys 70 percent of the voters saying that health care is going to be an important thing for them and compounded with the outbreak of covert 19. Comes to the podium and says that he is determined to axe obamacare do you think this was a misstep at this critical moment. Well let me let me just respond by saying that the most important thing remains in terms of the polls the economy and as it always been and always remains that and the latest gallup poll yesterday showed the president s. Approval rating and preferences for him handling the economy rose one point to now 57 percent. Now obamacare has been something that i dont know about rick in the past before although he was not a trump supporter but certainly the Republican Party as a whole has been against obamacare almost unanimously from the beginning of 2010 we want to replace obamacare and in a sense perfect it so i think that message came through i just want to make a couple of servatius that but quickly 220000000 americans have not died its 220000 in the 1st instance secondly is the president s point its always hard to pull will prove a negative the planes landing and so forth the president made a very good point had his actions which were criticized by the former Vice President not been not taken prudently and quickly against the advice of dr filed gene others for example shutting entry from china the death toll would have been much higher those are dr 5 g. s words so obviously its a Global Pandemic lastly the mortality rate in this country which nobody wants to talk about is going down and its far lower than most European Countries so the president has handled the pandemic 2 quick things when a candidate talks about darkness which is what. Joe biden is talking in negativity that usually doesnt play well President Trump is talking about optimism i started in washington as a reagan person in the 1970 s. And he was always about optimism the president was is optimistic and that is the president s role and the president has handled the coronavirus very quickly the only gaffe last night was. About fracking an oil rich talks about the well well see how cancers vote swell and how texas i think that was a major mistake by the Vice President on the Energy Issues i think going to cost him in pennsylvania its going to cost him in key states ohio included ok just on that in a long rick adolfo hes saying they still are handling of the coakley 1000. 00 he was exemplary was what was to rhetoric by president. Well the American People already made up their minds about the president s handling of covert in that in every survey they view his handling as a disaster there are 220000 americans who have died because of coded and if we have the same death rate as germany where we had a where there was a competent leadership that directed people early in the process today that they didnt have a somewhat of a shock who lied to americans for 3 months now and what he knew about this virus lied to americans for 3 months about a severity and at about the impact of it we would have a different outcome there probably the 50000. 00 fewer dead americans now i will say this the the the polling judge but its quite clear its abundantly clear the fact that donald trump is having to try to compete in states that he won last time like texas and kansas now of all places is a disaster for this president its also another thing that the that was mentioned that the old people had not darkness it doesnt work well donald trump is a fundamentally pessimistic candidate hes always talking about people coming to kill you the caravans and this 13 if all these a magic villains in his head that hes always portraying as this as a media trip theyre coming to your suburbs to destroy them etc this is a guy whos a whos primarily primarily a recursive dark pessimistic message i think that that shows through very often but again last night donald trump need he didnt get it clark the these are extraordinary times in the u. S. And by did yesterday hinting that if the Supreme Court was to scrap the Affordable Care act he would go ahead and own it as biden cat is this something that could. Be another tough moment for by then if the Supreme Court decides to axe the Affordable Care act well he would be a tough moment for the American People if that happens i think would joe biden has said regarding the court is that obviously if youre looking at politics sort of in play and look at what Mitch Mcconnell republicans have done under the leadership of donald trump completely different to what they did 4 years ago when president obama had announced his candidate. That was not taken up this time theyre rushing through someone and their idea is that if you go back to the constitution is nothing in the constitution that says we have to have 9 justices that is just a Historical Development weve had 6 weve had 5 weve had 9 and so its legitimate to say lets have a non partisan or Bipartisan Group look at that issue and decide if this is the best way to go forward and not its made no commitment on that but on the obamacare but joe biden has said its we want to that is a 1st step to 1st step toward more health care for more people and American People deserve that and thats to joe biden was talking to last night he looked directly in the camera and he said that to them and i think that will resonate a go for you said that the economy was trumps strength but you know his trailing behind in states he won easily into 1016 going to say this an indication that people are looking forward to time thats up to donald trump. Well you know all this stuff about trail eenie and were behind and its news to me im on the campaign that were competing in texas and kansas and were writing about these things of course this program could have been a program that we could be having 4 years ago you know i can get Election Night coverage of my friends on the panel here remember this. On television on Election Night and that morning the New York Times predicted that there was a 92 percent probability that i was the last polling data 92 percent probability that Hillary Clinton would win the election and so i think its a very different scenario thats been painted here its it sounds great to try to frighten people on this is that the somehow this election is over far from ramat by campaign itself has issued a memo saying that theyre worried about a over over confidence that the election will largely be decided in 4 or 5 states i think one of the key states is pennsylvania i think the Vice President hurt himself yesterday on oil and thats my view and in the fracking positions in pennsylvania a key key state so the election is very tight in those 4 d or 5 states that are going to decide the election and then the other states that are traditionally red and blue its pretty much decided i dont buy that its a nice talking point here that really has about cant just play and play but thats a thats just not it the last thing is i think too bad the guest year is not on t. V. The talk about for packing and the fact that its been 133 years and its been tried 60 years ago that to try to do this when its not going their way they want to change the rules and have it larger court believe me it will run the other shoe be a different or something rushed about this process its absolutely constitutional and its absolutely appropriate and note how they dont want to talk about any komi baird anymore because she was a stellar a candidate for the Court Nominees should say and the performance was suspect but dr but i hope they bring up court all right i hope they bring and they want to change our system and of course not tell the American People what they have in mind to their elected. Rick the swing states florida pennsylvania michigan North Carolina i was so in and wisconsin weve seen the many republicans joining in now and spending on those states trying to tell the ground in favor of joe biden which of the states you think could be the size of. Well look im a florida guy from the beginning and florida is always going to be close by whos maintaining a small but but meaningful lead there its going to be a tight race no matter what. Wisconsin and michigan seem to have safely drifted out of trumps orbit and are looking safely joe biden to this point pennsylvania is similarly moving toward biden were seeing enormous numbers and of of the collar counties around philadelphia performance is very high there. Ohio will also be close the swing states are what are that for a reason they are swing states arizona which is formally a republican state seemed safely out of trumps grasp and again we theres a highly competitive that is true this year in the state of texas more people have voted in texas this year so far than voted for trump in 2016 the turnout demographics were seeing in texas in the early voting are very favorable for joe biden im not saying texas is going to go red blue necessarily what i am saying is it should even be a problem the other thing weve seen. Is that Donald Trumps campaign is off the air in many of the swing states now they basically still have the Congress Advertising program only in florida North Carolina they put some money back into pennsylvania the last few days but theyve been dark or low or largely dark for several weeks before that so theres a lot going on here you cant analogizes to 2016 for a host of reasons most most importantly that Hillary Clinton was a deeply unpopular figure and joe biden is not in the same category in the minds of Republican Voters as the sort of demotic 30 year nemesis that theyve missed so its going to be close weve got to argue its going to be a landslide it all be like it to be a landslide because we believe trump and trump is a more proximate danger to the country but you know. This is a race where donald trump should have had here 1000000000 dollars a 1000000000 with a b. And hes now down to you know taking his ads off the air in most of the key swing states theres something has got badly wrong campaign obviously so were going to see are shakes up obviously that its going to be a tight race. Clark i see the optimism of the has been expressed by democrats over the last few weeks at this stage you seem to be quite confident the 3rd of november is going to be an historic moment for the americans do you have any concerns about Voter Suppression well let me address the 1st part having been on the ballot ive never agreed to let our guard down until all the votes to be counted. Weve seen this before and it we have an Electoral College that makes a decision not a popular vote and those crucial states are going to be so so important the swing states but theres a huge difference between 20202016 donald trump could run as an outsider there no question about it now he is the president of the United States is harry truman said the buck stops here and all the things that weve been discussing he has all too much responsibility for that he cannot blame joe biden who has not been in office the last 4 years it is donald trump an adult folks what do you think would happen in the upcoming days until the before the day of the election what are the chances for donald trump to tell the ground in his favor. Well i actually think its in his favor of if there is no different take the president and house now has announced day by state swing again hes been on the campaign trail unlike the other candidate that has been you know used the term the president uses correctly pulled up and is. In his bunker and delaware in a basement and not really going to you know why because he cant have crowds of us and theyre going to say its cold and the rest of it bring up 30000 cards ok theyre there so there but but let me let me just tell you i think that a bradley has been a dominant on us on the ground and its going to be hitting the states i dont swing states i dont think this is an important point for the viewers just to hear now theyre whistling that its a different tune in 2016 nobody before the election was saying that donald trump was going to hand her that she was such a look at it but let me some one last quick quick thing about rick you can have it both ways oh its going to be a close election which it will be but you know were winning arent exposed in texas and kansas and theyre out of the Air Wisconsin and so forth it is going to be a close race and alcohol trump a whimper but you cant have it both ways dissent simply say its a runaway and then say its a close race there they want to make it look like its a runaway election in wisconsin and michigan and pennsylvania are very much in play and very much within the president s grasp unfortunately were running out of time Adolfo Franco brick wilson clock plaxico i really appreciate your contribution your insight thank you. 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