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More night from scott hydes lawyer who is in bangkok at scotts. Just tell us whats happening where you are because youve been up that protest site for most of the day. And what has happened is that you know as we were talking about earlier you know what the protesters did at the end it didnt they do the police saying that theyre going to hold another large protest where they did it thursday evening for more than 10000 came out but instead they did it about a kilometer down the road to where we are now where this confrontation is happening now in between those 2 locations on a very popular high end Shopping Mall right mr part of bangkok paragon and what did happen is that the riot police gave warnings to the podcasters down the road and they started marching down the road and then that was met by some of the protesters i would say hundreds of the protesters marching down to meet them and then there was kind of a battle lines drawn the police over loudspeakers heard damage tried to encourage the. To stand down to move back even told them that they love them and that they should think about their families they didnt they became more aggressive they counted d on to defend twice and then they opened with the water cannon and then they marched forward and thats kind of what were seeing now a good bit of a stalemate right now and i can see some of the gates being cocked for the water cannon and this is kind of been going back and forth i would say for the last maybe half an hour the standoff lasted maybe 15 minutes before that but then it kind of pushed forward by the crowd control police and it looks like there might be retreating a little bit now yes it doesnt look like theyre moving back right now the water cannon shot moving back i might be staying me standing next to where my deputy called the triology area for some of. The crowd control police looks like that when did we know that some of that water cannon theyre using blue chemical liquid mixed in with the water cannon in that some experiences. Of burning agent most of the time theres a burning agent in it i cant confirm that with the. But that but i think its some of the why some of the policemen are down on the ground behind me now maybe a couple. Beers and theyre retreating a bit but the police have pulled back the water cannon vehicles back to id say maybe about 5 meters but now theres been sharing their stationery and it looks yeah it looks like guns on both sides get that kind of allied to a lane. 1 roadway and it looks like you know that the riot police have been on the sidewalk and thats in the middle of the road and it could be yes it looks like they have retreated back a bit and the protesters are advancing at the moment but it looks like it might have been because water cannon are not firing. The police have gone back to holding their shields i think here in the loudspeakers are still competing for them to back down. That there are dragging. 3 barricades but the police earlier used to try to keep him in place. Unsuccessfully at this point what would be interesting if it kind of a tactic of the tactics of the police was to you know want to be you dont lose was he dealt with they went to a different area a different large intersection occupied that the police didnt go over there in force base stayed where they were before and then thats when we saw this happen so they kind of. Announced that theyre going to march towards the new position and then the protesters ran up to meet them and then that is what weve had this conversation it appears that the right now if this was the its the law would have been you know i can utilize unseemliness reading back a bit sorry to cut you off going to seems a bit academy my spleen on with the protests and with the more enforcement what exactly are the protesters trying to do because. That would clear the these kind of gatherings on the street have not been outlawed protest is arent really allowed to gather in large numbers in the time. At the moment what are they aiming to do. Right now i think we can say how over all they have 3 demands the 1st demand is that the cabinet resign 2nd demand is that the constitution is written so that the distribution of power in their view to do more equally worked out and then the 3rd is a reform of the monarchy those have been their demands theyve been refined if you will over the last week or so but those are generally what they have been asking for throughout this protest movement started by by students Young Students back in july and weve seen a multitude of different types of content if you will smaller scale of schools bigger much larger venue a couple weeks ago we saw one that with tens of thousands of people peaceful i mean its very easy to say that this is the most violent confrontation we have seen by far since july and so i think what were seeing here now is that yesterday they came out after the big day when they had a protest gathering at the democracy minute then they marched onto Government House and then thats when this decree was passed those several 100 to spend the night out in front of Government House the decree came out of 4 oclock in the morning a peaceful lead left the police came out loud speaker said look this decree been passed you need to leave and they did teach really under the direction of the protest leadership and then we saw after that hours after that a protest last night it fit very similar areas where i am now central bangkok shopping district is that lasted for hours about 6 hours but ended peacefully at 10 oclock the police said time to leave the protest leaders the defense kind of new leadership because most of the top leadership the most recognizable the high profile leaders have all been arrested so i think what were seeing here now this is they just want to keep it going and it could have very well been been partially prompted by a comment. That day by Prime Minister perhaps you know just where he officially presented the emergency decree to the cabinet an emergency meeting today friday and then came out of that Cabinet Meeting and said you will get arrested this is now turned violent so were going to come out and arrest you if you turn out so he kind of turned up the volume and then the protesters not as many as as thursday night but they came out and clearly this is a case all came to a head with this it was i have to tell you that with this kind of march over by the crowd control police that has definitely been the most aggressive posture ive seen them yet weve seen the water trucks parked around where some of the protests bennys were in the past but never used never deployed not even just kind of driven on to the street or even close to the front line to go but the protesters and police are this is the 1st time and this is kind of your classic crowd control operation 2 lines of. Police with helmets and shields banging them kind of trying to intimidate the protesters and kind of wave and then the water starts going to come up down in the now that kind of retreated but again as i can see now the protesters are kind of at this stage is holding their ground they havent advanced at all and b. Most of the looking now yes most of the South Central police are now behind the water cannon vehicles and actually now i can see that there are 3 kind of side by side pretty much taking up the entire width of the road and stinginess just give us a sense of of the momentum behind this process movement he say that these are younger protest mean the use hes been driving this certainly to viewers watching the screens it does seem to be similarities with the kind of used to have been protest movement that weve seen in places like hong kong but how is i have are they managing to are they getting general public support behind them on this calls to try and. To try and. Take on the Prime Minister get these electoral reforms but theyve also been trying to get reforms to the monarchy as well which is a very touchy subject where you are is that no. It absolutely is and whats been interesting is that there has been a distinct evolution of what. Since july it started as you know most School Dismissals Young Students you want to say young i mean you know kind of middle school and High School Age still in their uniforms protesting marching to the minister of Education Officer sitting out side until he spoke at the many finally did so it started there and it slowly escalated they got more students involved more seasoned general public became involved and then we saw a real spike in support is when a group of populous people Political Group called the red shirts those are people that supported. You know out in the you watch you know watch. If they dont help Prime Ministership here and they were much more popular. Politicians so you had the red shirts become involved so that really 1 the numbers almost overnight had 4 major protests the 2nd largest major protest was because of the record turnout and then they have been coming out this well but quite honestly when you look at what theyre fighting for what they say the changes they want in thailand they get as you mentioned how you have the very touchy subject when you when you speak about the monarchy because the laws here this is territory ive been living in bangkok and covering type politics for 8 years this is the farthest i have ever seen any kind of Movement Just got good form within the monarchy and ive never seen it go that far and what really gets kind of baby this week is because the king is backing down and we had in pretty. Wednesday where the motorcade of the queen has close to where. Its not a protest march is going on a lot of protesters activists approach approach the motorcade and salute the 3 finger salute that has become an icon or the. Identifying icon for these protesters and then that was part of the reason why the great sense that it was going to put forth and pass this emergency decree that because of its great coming pilot because of the. The security of the nation was at stake so use that as part of it and next they directed to activate for that incident so when you look at the sensitivity and the testing of the power structures here that have been in place for decades this year there has white at the latest quite dramatically when you look at that the students. Sitting in sitting down in the class and demanding change to where we are now a it looks like that the South Central police are again pushing to the front buying the water can it been for. Yes its a very it its been quite a steep at places if you will particularly tonight because this is something we havent seen in these last several months and certainly hasnt got hard to leave it there for nigh but thank you so much for talking us through that escalation in the process site in central bangkok more of course from scott and the team later in the day but for now were going to teach you some london where we also have breaking news that the u. K. Prime minister Boris Johnson says the country should prepare for a new deal with the e. U. After bricks and trade negotiations move to a crawl. They want the continued ability to control our minister to Freedom Fisheries in a way that is completely unacceptable to an independent country and since we have been in 10 weeks until the end of the transition period on jan to the us i have to make a judgment about the likely outcome and to get us all ready. And given that they refused to negotiate seriously for much of the last few months and given that this summit appears explicitly to rule out a canada style deal i concluded that we should get ready for january the 1st with the rangelands that are more like australias based on simple principles of global free trade well lets say across live to paul brennan he joins us from london and poll the Prime Minister there saying the country should prepare for a no deal at but has he stopped the negotiations as they said. No he hasnt i mean there are a couple of things that leapt down to me that the biting criticism from the british Prime Minister saying the e. U. Had refused to negotiate seriously i thought that was significant in the way he was using that particular phraseology and 2nd of all the use of the phrase ology had to say were going for an australia deal which almost sounds like a far more gentle way of saying frankly its a bricks its a no deal bracks its and theres going to be issues as a result of that the to say australia kind of deal kind of wraps it up in and something that people who know lots of australians because lots of australians comes to the u. K. They were seen more cozy than perhaps the reality will actually be that said youre right what he didnt say was that he was pulling the u. K. Out of the talks all together in the context of all of this dont forget is the problem is the boris d johnson had said last month that if the talks have not reached an agreement or some sign of that there was a possible deal on the table by this thursday friday when the European Union is meeting in brussels at the moment then he would have to say well were going to face the prospect of simply moving on in his words and going going for it making of other arrangements so he hasnt yet pulled the plug on the talks there will be no more negotiations on monday here in london is negotiated Michel Barnier will arrive on the lay on albeit remotely because shes had to leave the summit for a coronavirus reasons has said that the talks will begin even more intensively than they have been so far so theres a glimmer of hope but the fact is that the terminology and attitudes certainly seem to be heartening to see who exactly is this message destined for then from the Prime Minister is it soon to reassure the british people or is it for more pressure on to try and get these negotiations to move along because the you cancel president speaking the german chancellor has been speaking and theyre barely mentioning bricks that theyre talking about couvade so whats the Prime Minister trying to see here. As ever there are 2 main audiences that the Prime Minister is feeding this towards of course there is a message that hes sending to the other European Union leaders as regards their negotiating stance for example the french president a man well macron taking a particularly hard line on the fisheries aspect of these negotiations and of course Boris Johnson has to consider his own domestic audience as well the voters d many of them who turned to his party the conservatives for the 1st time in the most recent general election because of the conservative stance on bracks it he has to keep them supportive of his party and all of his strategy it was noticeable as well other phrases they put in that that address that statement that he made inside downing street to say britain would be fine you know dont worry well be ok if we go for a no deal we are where were well placed and we will cope so the kind of reassurance that he was giving to the domestic audience as well at the same time as giving a very sort of hardball critical position to his his european counterparts ok paul bread and their previous all the very latest from london tonight thank you. 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Have been dramatic scenes in thailand in the past 15 minutes is so riot police and once a cannon have been used to break through to match the barricades set up by protests and sends in bangkok thousands of and see government protests innocent be defying a government ban on gavins for a 2nd night in a rude theyve been calling for the Prime Ministers resignation and for reforms to the more nicky lots of nice chinese china the Prime Minister is refusing to stand down and lets get more now on that story and join our correspondent scott hi there hes live for us and bangkok and scott whats been happening where you are. Or will that confrontation took place right there about 50 meters from it you can see kind of the edge of that hill or that is a walkway that goes up to the sky train here in bangkok and you can see that blue truck that is a supply truck for one of those for 3 of those water cannon vehicles and this is where that front line was it is now quiet what were hearing what were seeing is a lot of. Crowd control police here this is been kind of their triology area because some of the water is dyed lou and has chemicals its laden with chemicals burning agents so a lot of those Police Officers have come back here and have been getting treatment for that the protesters have retreated back to where they were when they were quite honestly it was it was almost a taunt i have to tell you because what did happen is initially the protesters said they were going to gather about a half of a kilometer that way but they sprouted up same time about a half a kilometer this way so what did happen is the police they have obviously stationed over there because thats what they thought the protest was going to be about an hour into the protest they marched down this avenue very. And shopping district here in central bangkok they marched down here on these loudspeakers and said disperse disperse disperse they had rows and rows of these crowd control police with shields with helmets taunting them and then the protesters built a makeshift front line if you will with barricades that were used by the police before and then we saw kind of a push back either side either side right now both sides have retreated back almost to the beginning positions i most of the protesters have gone back down that direction by that major intersection and again the police here some of most of those who are here from getting to know us for the for the burning agent theyre back over there and theyre regrouping right now and obviously theyre telling them to disperse as they have been over the last hour and then weve seen this confrontation as you said how its only been about maybe the last 2015 minutes and now of course the bankrupts all of this of course is that these kind of process have been bands cheeta this emergency decree the Prime Minister the protesters are saying to go hes still in power what was he had to say about all of this. That he came down with this emergency decree was passed on early thursday morning 4 am that is because there was another protest where tens of thousands of antigovernment protesters marched from democracy monument to Government House where the Prime Ministers offices and they pulled up in front of his office were there for several hours then a few 100 hardcore protesters spent the night and then this decree came out of 4 am their protest leaders on site on makeshift stage telling the protesters to to leave peacefully and they did so they cleared that area we were there within an hour after that decree and there were even awash in the streets then came the next night thursday night and not 3 had that big protest down here again peaceful they they they closed down. Everything at about 10 pm they left peacefully no problems the Prime Minister came out because there is an emergency Cabinet Meeting today friday where this emergency decree was officially discussed and he came out of that meeting held a press conference and said pretty much through the hard line those come out of 5 this or that it is no more than 5 people gather at a time said those who defy this will be arrested because he said that there is chaos in the country and that the protests are causing chaos in the country and that it puts national but national risks the National Security at risk so that is why i believe weve seen this kind of escalation the line was drawn in the sand and thats are seen by both sides the right now theyve kind of take it taken aback and theyre theyve retreated and regrouping you dont know its hard to say if theyre getting gearing up for another comfort and or this has been it for today but right now both sides have separate well we will let you check that out for a night of those could hide in bangkok thank you very much indeed. There a process that sort of courthouse in cynical south africa over the killing of a white farm worker is a public stand off seen thousands of supporters of the south African Opposition Party the Economic Freedom phrases and point farmers in the free state of sunoco see black men are jew in quotes accused of killing a 22 year old brinton horners sports he was fined tied to a pool 2 weeks ago for manager had injuries to his face and neck for me the miller is covering the story she joins us live from seattle inside africa the big concerns about racial tensions where you are why is this just explain to us whats been going on. Well in the last couple of weeks those tensions there have been voting and the printing on who you talk to some would deny that its based on racism and others would say its very much all about race about the economy about the political differences and the french and weve seen from the work off the printer in a war no one was killed allegedly by 2 men who are appearing in court a group of white farmers this in a cold Magistrate Court that was last week there actually work but it was also criticism that police didnt do enough to stop them from storming the quad trying to get access to the suspects. Of black South Africans the response from police would be very different than the leader of the Economic Freedom fighters malema said he and his supporters would come to cynical to defend Public Institutions state property and defend democracy theyve also accused most of. The situation at this point hands down should have. Quite dramatically in the last couple of hours we saw the new tension escalate between supporters of. Both believe we have to try to keep. Both sides have been criticized for their actions. Inside. The borders and do whatever is necessary to the fans of ocracy youve also spoken to wife who say that if blatter has to be shared sophia its. A very tense situation and we are awaiting word from around the bail application of those 2 men accused of killing a brit award and while the family left the town of. Still waiting to hear from. A lot to say in recent days around. Landownership and also the place of uptake on the bomb and in the. Ok freedom over there bring us all the very latest from thank you. More than a 1000 prisoners have been on the frontlines of yemen civil war returned home over the past 2 days the last planes carrying fighters been held by the save the u. A. E. 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This is al jazeera and these are the headlines in thailand sizes of protesters her eyes on the streets of bangkok to find a government ban on gatherings police are looking rude symbols expected to be another tense nights events the government protests there calling for the Prime Ministers resignation and reforms to the monarchy Prime Minister china china is refusing to stand and the has more now from bangkok. And this is where that front line was it is now quiet what were hearing what were seeing is a lot of. Crowd control police here this is been kind of their triology area because some of the water is dyed blue and has chemicals its laden with chemicals burning agent so a lot of those Police Officers have come back here and have been getting treatment for that the protesters have retreated back to where they were when they were quite honestly it was it was almost a taunt i have to tell you. The reporter said a courthouse in cynical south africa over the killing of a white farm worker is a public standoff between thousands of supporters of the south African Opposition Party the Economic Freedom fighters and white farmers in the free state of cynical 2 black management courts accused of killing a 22 year old farm worker more than a 1000 prisoners have been on the front lines again and civil war have come home over the past 2 days the last 2 planes carrying he suffice to sit in held by a save the u. A. E. Coalition arrived in the capital sanaa short while ago another plane carrying Coalition Fighters right in the southern port city of aden after leaving santa and u. S. President donald trump and his white house challenger joe biden have inquiries by the public during wife will televised town hall style events are asked about issues ranging from the coronavirus to conspiracy theories the Supreme Court and trumps finances stay with us in our desire oh lines is next. What can i do or the black person in this country that isnt very near my black body my role as a small beam has been weaponized. Its all too familiar in the United States a black person killed by the police. Calls for justice and the cycle repeats. The other. Night outside the white house by some estimates 2020 has seen the largest protest movement in u. S. History all centered on the killing of black people by police. Dont want to argue the march Briana Taylor shot in her own home. Alone when he was at the range and then in may george floyd in minneapolis where more than 8 minutes were caught on cell phone of an officer kneeling on his neck despite his pain samata. The day after how tough they were up to the upper lip read across the country let him tell us that all these millions of people across the last took to the streets in the middle of the pandemic that have largely shut down the country. But what was at the center of all this were too many cases that are gone unseen and unheard. My name is to me asta my son as mark hes hasta marquees was killed by d. C. Police on jails 12th 2008 its names like mark east alston they you may have never heard as well as the ones that are better known Michael Brown sandra bland eric garner and it pushed the us to this moment are dying right now and children are being shot right now black people should not be defending their very existence and urging i do my brief in this violent we cant even sleep in all we came up. Play video games are one of them are going to mourn with our nephews i came a book to play music and a car the gas station at home. Its also years of promise is a performance change that came without justice reforms is just not going to work and so were not here for that conversation anymore we have to remove this institution that was built on systematic racism and built on the backs of selling black and brown individuals. When we met him at the alston in july it had been just over 2 years since her son 22 year old marquiss was shot and killed by police in washington d. C. How did you find out about what happened. Was headed to dinner and i got a call from one of mark he says friends and. As soon as i answered i heard the pentagon on the phone. And so i said whats wrong. And she said mark he says been shot. And i said ok what hospital are we going to because of course i thought positive. And she said were not going to the hospital hes gone. I got home. And of course on the 10 oclock news it was there police have been on scene here for hours they tell us the shooting happened just after 7 oclock investigators say a group of guys were out in that alley when officers approached them thats when shots were fired i had not been notified. I didnt sleep that night. So i was just waiting for them to come. And they didnt get there until. About 2 oclock pm the next day. What is it been like for you to get answers about what happened that night its been. An agonizing traumatizing disheartening. Dreadful. Ive just been trying to get simple questions answer. What would it initially took place to cause this to happen. I want to show you where it has the d. C. Police Department Said that officers were on patrol on the approach they were initially it was unclear why when officers entered the back alley there was a group of adult males one of the adult males produced a weapon there were shots fired but witnesses at the scene disputed the police account. It was. Shot multiple times. Report the gunshot wounds and stated if the gunshot wounds were repetitive that they would not individually list them so i cant even count. The total of gunshot wound. Was one of the 13 People Killed by d. C. Police since 201512 of whom black. Since her son was killed tried to find out what happened that night as of today in p d has not provided me with any sufficient facts of this case shes testified before the city council submitted public records and filed a civil lawsuit against the city but its been nearly impossible to get answers from them what i wish the city would give me. To treat me is. Black life matter. Human being that matters if that makes sense. The truth accountability transparency thats what i desire from the city. As shes fall prancer committee has also had to relive her loss when another black person is killed by police in the u. S. Each time. I hear a life loss due to the polies. Brings forth so much anxiety so much pain. And i say here we go again. Here we go again. With. The. The the complete police man in the it was a horrific killing of george floyd on may 25th captured on cell phone by a bystander but he repeatedly told the police he couldnt breathe it sparked the protest thats why i feel. The law. Because if youre going to get me everyone is telling. Me the question now is will this be different people. Are tired. To realize that we have a whole generation of people who will die hard time just heard almost every week another black person killed another aspect. I came imagine what that does to psyche to grow up for over half your life is just another black by be killed on the street and the black by the slain out of the black person killed by choke and you know by say my cape very like tracy wright is one of the thousands of people that took to the streets in d. C. In the protest after george point the scale last week that may be deployed with shields and tear gas as the protests grew police were more aggressive each day when i bust open leave someone how it was all over the body got teargassed purpose perry and after they eyes were flushed out they went right back out to the front and that energy to me was just so raw and so sort and. I am president of law and order and an ally of all peaceful protesters. On june 1st one week after the killing of george floyd and just after the president to liberate these remarks. Police began to clear protesters from in front of the white house. The police did this for President Trump who wanted to take a photo at the church across from the white house. After the by the clearing up the park that day the president flooded the streets of d. C. The scores the federal forces without police but 2 weeks later and as the protests continued the president took a slightly different approach signing an executive order and urging Police Departments station wide to adopt the highest professional standards to serve their communities the standards will be as high and as strong as there is on earth the executive order called for the creation of a nationwide database to track excessive use of force by Police Officers and for Police Departments to adopt better practices but it was unclear what tangible impact the order would really have. Even then it was still a change and how trampas approach policing since he took office by moving away from Police Reform efforts of the Obama Administration. Those reforms were sparked during another reckoning on Police Violence in the u. S. In the wake of the killing of 18 year old Michael Brown in ferguson missouri and 20. 00. Sort of felt like people who were used to being bullied for many years suddenly started to stand up for themselves just in hansford live 10 minutes from ferguson at the time working as a law professor people were excited people were happy he was a legal observer and one of thousands of people who took to the streets then even in the face of a heavy militarized response from the police. Ferguson was the spark i think weve had a long history of responding to Police Violence was. A ferguson was the 1st time were people who didnt just take to the streets in protest but but they actually had to bring out tanks because they saw that people were going to take it to the next level. 0. 0000000000000000 it was in the aftermath of this that the department of justice under the Obama Administration began to ramp up efforts to reform policing in the United States. One part of that was increasing investigations into Police Departments including purpose and this was about the death of Michael Brown but not only about the death of Michael Brown Jonathan Smith was on the justice departments team that conducted a civil rights investigation into the Ferguson Police department and so we went into ferguson to try to understand what was happening the community the operation of its Police Department the effect of the police to work on the community and whether the Police Report was engaging in patterns of violations of the costs which. Among the findings of their investigation was that the Ferguson Police department disproportionately use force against the black community. While everybody looked like me got to be a criminal. Is no on in effect. I guess the rain on the daily give us a last minute to go every day the people who live in myself included a lot of these black males are in line are under our law says they used to and that the police along with local officials systematically targeted black residents with tickets and fines as a way to make money for the city. Africanamericans were targeted. For by the Police Department or brought into the court system and their pockets would be continued to be drained sort of almost in perpetuity were you surprised by any of your findings and ferguson i wasnt i mean i had by the time that we investigated the Ferguson Police department with there was in the last research that was about the 20th i think it was the 20th investigation that we conducted a Police Departments across the country and investigations like this were one of the central components of the Obama Administrations Police Reform effort you know we knew that as you we looked across the country that there was a serious and deep problem and a core almost of all of them was a failure of Police Departments to be accountable internally so that officers who engaged misconduct were held in account to account and that departments themselves were all held accountable to their communities oh my god oh thank god. That was. The ferguson report do a lot to help people to really come to grips with what the protesters were saying from day one we had been telling people that there was racial profiling but they didnt believe it until they saw the d. O. J. Report. But the Obama Administrations Police Reform went beyond investigation funding and grants were issued for initiatives like body camera to increase transparency last year the ferguson and a task force and beyond making a number of recommendations to improve policing in the u. S. Specifically by focusing on Community Relations and having Police Officers undergo training for bias. But now 6 years after ferguson the country faces yet another reckoning in minneapolis where george freud was killed there have been. Calls for the trumpet ministration to investigate the Police Department. But they have to have to do so were going to probably reacting to this and simply immediately putting the department under investigation doesnt necessarily results in improving the situation but i listen its consistent with the attorney generals previous Public Comments saying that the problem is only a few rogue officers and that theres no systemic racism in policing and not. The trumpet ministration has largely stopped federal investigations into Police Departments the more fundamental problem is in the structure of policing and the culture of policing what happened to george floyd is a very good example of that you had not one officer engage in misconduct but you had officers that were bystanders that didnt intervene to prevent that from happening. In the minneapolis raises another question though does reform work. More than a year before george floyd was killed the city had put all of its Police Officers through trainings on implicit bias. And nationally Police Killings did not go down in the years after ferguson and the obama era reform efforts. Were going to see 5 or 6 years later we have cities Like Washington d. C. The city. Where there are plenty of body camera. Youve got all these different rules and regulations in place but these are all things that can be manipulated and. Body cameras were a key part of both local and federal reform with the goal of increasing transparency but even that has come in challenges for families for you and your sons case what has it been like trying to get access to the camp but its i thought it would be a simple what they initially told me to do we submitted their requests only for them to respond back to say markey needed to submit the request says he was involved in the body. And so my attorney then responded and said hes. Hes not able to make the request so thats why his mother is making the request she was finally able to see some of the footage in august of last year but not all of it and even then she says it was heavily edited the 5 minutes included a narrow ration of what they depict it happened. Which included some power points it was a package edited version 5 minutes of what we saw. Good morning this message is for mr. Days after we interviewed her committee i received a voicemail from d. C. Police department will be releasing the camera footage of the shooting. We just want to. Let you know it will be. The footage was released publicly before can if you could see it. In the Footage Police began the interaction with mark east by jumping out of their car and running after him. Because the audio is not turned on until later we dont know why they went after him. I dont know it should be shot they claim they saw the outline of a gun in his pocket and that marquees shot 1st before the officers repeatedly shot him. Yet the metropolitan Police Department declined our request for an interview. In a statement miss alstons lawyers that the footage does not show mikeys fired a gun or that the object in his hand was one shot and that without the audio key details are still missing and anything out of me everything i hate Everything Police made the video public along with footage from the das of 2 other black men but they were only released because of a new city legislation that requires them to release body camera footage and battle shootings it was passed in june in response to the latest wave of protests. But people on the street part calling for more reform or legislation nobody was holding up signs saying more body cameras for police more money for Police Training right thats how they got out of the last crisis was with more money and more resources body cameras in the training and all that but none of these directly addressed the sort of set goals of policing and the substandard outcomes of policing. The lack of success or performances turn the National Conversation to one local activists have been advocating for years. Defunding Police Departments on the path to eliminating them completely abolition. They want to cut Police Budgets and the number of officers patrolling and often surveilling their communities and redirect that money to Health Care Education and housing. Weve been following a lot of money into Police Reforms thats not actually keeping anyone in more safe i have no faith in the institution that needs to be reminded not to choke me but the group of d. C. Organizers and one of the most policed areas of the city what has happened over the years is that the police have become the place where people call for everything like we are creating work for police that not only does the police not to do nobody nobody needs to do the work nobody. There criminalizing. Nobody needs to be criminalizing people who. Need health care what would abolishing the police. And look like looks like knowing where i can get food and water that looks like having safe housing all the time that looks like being able to stand outside and not worry about being literally surveilled in terror as for existing law and basically any other war to have multiple choices and over here we dont we actually have no place to give birth theres no. War over here is the river and not the type of thing that like literally doesnt keep you safe like i think even. Thinking about getting pregnant this is dangerous over here as a black woman when i have a 13 year old to tell me that. He took the ladys purse because. His mother had no food in the house to feed his troops were you given the resources and the community. Still in the purse he could be a Recreation Center which would lead. D. C. s mayor has said that cutting the Police Budget will make the city last but that doesnt feel true for some residents we just had 11. Murders kill. It was a policeman in there. And he still got shot and therefore you cant breathe. Couldve kept. Reform dont work this mentor is what works and the rest of the resources that keep us. Brothers and sisters are not a moment of reckoning in america as the summer came to an end and as protests continued yet another black person was shot by police just within these past several days we have seen the attempted murder of jacob lake in wisconsin jacob blake was shot 7 times in the back at point blank range. It happened just 5 days before thousands of people gathered in the u. S. Capitol to mark the anniversary of the historic march on washington in 1963 and as they continued to demand justice and change. Committee 82 with her granddaughter mark uses daughter lyric she was also one of many family members who spoke about their loved ones killed by police all 7 this number right here for an hour and you can find out where your funny unfortunately there has been the only communication the metropolitan Police Department has shared with me in regard to my 1st ever chum exactly the mother you know did i made sure to transmit me from our chief doing. This aside she still doesnt understand. What it is to. Not continuously kill us as a people. Because of the color of skin. Its hurtful. And it just reach traumatizing each time. I was just going to see this right now. Thats walmarts in full all much of. For brianna for mon. Buds a coupe. For prominent journal. For Michael Brown. One. d anybody else who loves them. There is a strength enough coming together as mothers who lost our sons due to police brutality. And this to reach a firm in me that im not by myself. In this walk in this journey and i know what we go through. Be strong dont stand tall and currents dont stop sampling man or dont stamp piscopo test stand. Up you. Know one this is the ballot but this. Today is the recharge for more to come to me advocating for marquee fish true. What keeps me going is mark he says 4 year old daughter shes very curious and so i want to be able to provide her church as to why her father was killed by the metropolitan Police Department. Oh. Sure you go. Through. 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