Affect the president s reelection message particularly when it comes to cope with. What we know is that the president is trying to put a positive spin on all of this the fact that. He has been trying to convey the message that things are back to normal that the economy is bouncing back and thats why weve seen kind of a 2016 Campaign Style message but the same time the president will not be able to do that moving forward given the fact that he himself has tested positive several senior officials have confirmed negative tests including secretary of States Michael pale blues in croatia he says hes still plans to go ahead with his settled asia trip next week Vice President mike pence has also tested negative. Democratic House Speaker nancy pelosi says plans for continuing government are in place and she says that though it is tragic trumps habit of going into crowds without a mask was a brazen invitation for something to happen and trumps democratic rival joe biden has sent his best wishes to the president alan fischer has more we got a statement on twitter from joe biden and his wife saying that they wish to donald trump a quick recovery and said that he and the 1st lady would be in their prayers. I understand that there is going to be a test carried out on joe biden at some point this morning quite simply because he was so close to the president on tuesday and in other news i mean in Azerbaijan Forces have been fighting over disputed region of nagornokarabakh and its continued into a 6 day that many are says its ready to work with mediators to reestablish a cease fire in the region the u. S. Russia and france have called for the resumption of talks those are the headlines coming up next on aljazeera its the stream. Were heading to the place so deep in the truth its taken us to do this just to get from the search through. What is being done to protect one of the regions most iconic creatures. Disappearing. Legal pad trade with the. Reintroduction of a viable option to save. Techno on aljazeera. Ok a welcome to the stream i have to take a look. This is the great if you n. P. N. Or nascent stem its great because when it is finished it will be the largest Hydroelectric Project in africa but this billions of dollars project has sparked a bit to dispute between some of the Knowledge Base and countries in this episode of the strain we will look at what has been known as the geology the good will that means for People Living in the now basin and where the political ends in egypt ethiopia and sudan can come to an agreement. And i guess its really good to see i was a i think the guest cadets will introduce themselves to you but dont know it nice to have you on the string tell everybody who you are i thank you for having me i mean i suspect elaborate on what are signs of speech or based on that. Thanks for joining us i show what people need to know about you for the purposes of our conversation today thank you for having me in my member just ran a professor of peace and conflict research. You know squit chair on International Water corporation that groups allow us to do so we dont ive been working on my list for since mid ninetys its nice to have you had i timothy tell everybody who you are. The names of the kaldis im a fellow of the doctor and stupor middle east policy i work on Foreign Policy and political economy both of which are intertwined deeply with these questions around the garden. Dollar and i say the great ethiopian renascence dam was the 1st thing that comes to mind. Relations as the name and place it is really a project thats really close indeed to the hearts of people in ethiopia. And its actually the people saying were claiming our destiny again were saying no to poverty were saying no to injustice were saying no to im dignified life and yet everything flows from there sensible people minding the project from their own billions of dollars i mean were not a rich country so its a lot that people are willing to fund this spacek on their own so essentially is there an essence of if you look at us and the saying go to poverty no to a dignified life and saying yes to a better future. That is a wrong view from ethiopia timothy if he could tap into. Public view in in egypt how might that be different when they hear about the good when we talk about the great ethiopian renascence dam well its not perspective like from egypt theres a lot of worry theres a lot of worry about what the dam will do to the place of the nile which is the source of virtually all the water that is used in egypt its vital for agriculture of vital or people to go to drink and have access to the water its vital for industry. It doesnt really have an alternative thats viable that could replace that so theres a lot of stress about theres a lot of concern about the inability bus far to achieve any sort of binding agreement on the conduct of how that how the dam will be used and how water will be regulated so you know its a lot of its a lot of concern let me just bring in the president of egypt and the Prime Minister in ethiopia to see how they all framing this hydroelectric which a project so listen. What im doing. We have spent the better part of a decade in tiresome the gauche ations with our brothers in the sudan and ethiopia through which our aim was to reach an agreement on the filling and operation of the dam. In the not in the indeed the nile river must not be monopolized by one state for egypt the nile water is an existential matter and. I want to make it abundantly clear that we have no intention to harm these countries that we are essentially doing is to meet our electricity months from one of the cleanest service of energy we cannot afford to continue keeping more than 65000000 of our people in the dark. If you could brought down what the essential debate is here why would the president of if the president of egypt the Prime Minister of ethiopia be talking about a dam project in the way that they are. I think if this is not an ordinary day i think this is a massive. Development project enough because this will make. A legit 10 minute. News nile the water this will be a long tradition of the domination of egypt on the nile nile has been been said before between egypt and for the last time that will be a change but i think this is where the critical point lies that how it will be on the basis of cooperation and i think this is what is. On the way things are but for now egypt is particularly deep has a deal lies that the bomb has come up so its just from all its going to want a negotiated settlement and ethiopia particularly spending 5000000000 dollars on this lot massive project which is much more important for its development it also wants to. Deal with the. Integral part of the mantle we wanted to show really to focus on people to impact on people politicians are having a conversation as well to speak of people i would need to listen to some of these the options have been looking because ethiopia mason storm this is what they have to say about the project. Z. Z. Z. City so she stayed home and comment on the source we have to reason it would be and you could help you too lazy to. See it is not easy and. See the sit down scene panties should complain only 2 because we have seasonality so small it on its own country has a huge problem with electricity that it will help us break free from the bondage of poverty and reach every household which i listen to you see what do you see how transformative i let you in ethiopia could be. But i have no doubt that the utopian people sincerely believe this is a vital project for them in their development its quite clear you know peons on social media have made that very clear to me in the past and i mean it makes sense the majority of the european have been living without electricity. In 2020 thats unacceptable and and i totally understand why they would want to support a project that could change that there also as as was noted by our other guest personally invested in this literally many of the o. P. s have bought bonds and helped to finance the construction of this dam so they have a personal stake as well and it will not respect. Thats not my i mean for mike if you thats not really whats in dispute but this is around the management but its about how will there be an agreement about ensuring that the flow of the water will not harm downstream countries or not significantly harm them and to ensure that in periods of drought that there isnt a significant reduction in the flow which could have adverse impacts on the agricultural and and fishing environment in both sudan and egypt. But i was really surprised to see this are interested on your take on this this is the ministry of tourism and antiquities sharing all social basically and mad saying this is the source of the nile we are really important the night is important for egypt and they are seriously appealing to the International Public to actually be on their side if there can be a sign when you talking about a dam what do you make of that. Im not surprised and i way theres this constant narrative of equating the noun to the existential life of egypt and. Also mentioned earlier that the nines are the only. Egypt which is not actually its true there is a massive amount of Groundwater Resources in egypt under who found what not a minute and a massive amount of gravel but thats my point now you know but nonetheless a massive amount of ground water 55 trillion trillion cubic meters of water theres a decided they should potential so lets not to frame it as if the night is the only lifeline of egypt it is indeed a major source of that we know it will surface water of egypt and egypt has been developed based off of that this huge civilization well known world renowned civilization was based of that built on that so nobody denies the right of egypt today if men in the sense that its but by the ad earlier yeah everybody has that life has the right to life and right of life is tied to watch especially in a region like them out basement which crosses 11 countries but i agree with president sisi early action that actually not be monopolized by any one country and history shows us that that has been monopolized by one country so the dam is not the problems here its the status quo in that region that im just status quo in that region thats the root of all the problems in the egypt so if we really want to move forward the data is not what we have to talk about the demos are very minute issues compared to the grand scheme the grand issues that we have to talk about delhi we really have to move forward to make their own youve got to go to meet Timothy Mcveigh is frowning timothy will be hung up on the head i mean i. Totally acknowledge that you dips behavior of the respect of the nile waters historically you have sought to monopolize control and i totally understand why now but its a country subject to. Suggest. That these alternative sources of water could make up for cuts in flow really poorly reflects on you because you understand as a water researcher that the rate of flow is not going to be supplemented by the sale and desalination nor outlines im stuck on the bit about you know flow the reduction of flow effects fisheries effects agriculture effects desertification of land interest legitimate concerns im not saying that you know he doesnt they do but lets talk seriously about the fact that both of these countries have serious concerns as opposed to pretending like one doesnt. Im not pretending at rest as is really a serious issue to me but if we were if were talking seriously which is why i keep mentioning them that issue is not the what exactly are you talking about when you talk about reduction in the flow the flow which egypt is used to the story of key the 55500000000 cubic meters that you just look at it for itself in the mind and if you know in agreement thats a nonstarter for if you look at it also already know that we carry on countries this is why i say the bird is not the data is not the fundamental pop and they would say that its a good idea and has been saying that the floor which is objectively untrue this is how it goes is i dont how to project i have proof you know no one else is going to guess with my words to guess just just just tell me what i may use it isnt made of military let nonstarter let me let let me just take a pause remember because remember yes this conversation should start with the people and we acknowledge that the politicians are arguing about this percentage not percentage but lets start with the people because the people who are actually going to be impacted let me bring in some egyptian farmers and delegate i really am interested in what you have to say to them so lets bring in those egyptian farmers and hear that perspective. Police have changed their hair temperatures than normal during this time and in winter it gets colder than before there is more change in the common than before temperature now of hair than ever and it has affected our farming how to look out and. There is very little nile water in winter sometimes as a bit more but mainly because the land doesnt need a lot of water in the winter but in the summer we dont get anything out of. The dam is already started to fill as the dam fills there will be less water available. For gyptian outdoor land that means that people will have less water in an area that is historically death that what do you have to say to them if they lose their avalons they lose their livelihoods how do you resolve 1st of all the greed as a hydro power project which means its not consumptive its it was not consumptive leaves the water but youre right in framing it that while the dam has been enough the water was likely reduced and the narrative that the farmers are giving now resembles more issues with Climate Change than the actual building of the dam because this year the amount of water that was held in the data to support point might 1000000000 cubic meters that is just 10 percent of the ad will be united flow not even the night if not the blue night so i think its great the farmers may have that impression and i dont blame them at all but its disingenuous to link any kind of climate to core agricultural impacts that egypt farmers may be facing with good weather that said however yes there are People Living on the ground in both sudan and egypt actually dependent on the water as there are people in ethiopia that is why the that is why cooperation is not is not an option and then that would be someplace safe but that but just because i mean life is life writes a life an egyptian farmer it is equally important as to a life of if youre going to farm or so id only have love and empathy to everybody living along and that reason because i have personally seen how much people are dependent on this water personally that is why i advocate for an act of elimination that we use Going Forward especially when you take Climate Change and sustainability issues into mind the watcher will not be enough for us if we keep at this narrow myopic way of utilising international capitalizing on. Crossing to the white house now where the white house chief of staff mark meadows is addressing the press office of the u. S. President on the trump tested positive for covert 90. 3 gives us regular. Numbers you know we learned where he is so obviously been tested were hopefully more than 6 feet away and if theres any any concern there from a guidance standpoint we have protocols in place and we you know when when when when early on early on when we 1st started to tackle the covert 19 battle we actually did 2 Different Things in in the white house number of contingencies as we looked at not only additional testing but it certainly. Mitigating the risk for social businesses and private meetings and the like but i think it goes to the broader question is is even with a lot of the mitigating factors jim what you what you have is a virus that is contagious that that certainly continues to be regardless of whatever protocol we have that that it has the ability to affect everybody is you know the president we keep a pretty wide circle all of you that have interacted with him know that and so even with that wide circle around the president we we find that. Hes having to deal with this like so many millions of other americans and people around the world have had to do and i can tell you i can tell you that what were doing is focusing. On the therapeutics the vaccines continuing to do that and that doesnt change youre going to do your residents no matter where you go ahead youre in a kayak or anything really quickly given your own labor. To be doing things. Where you. We tested all of our core staff and i can tell you that. Mr mr commissioner mr scruby you know myself a number of us have been tested come back with negative results and yet at the same time i fully expect that as this virus continues to go on other people in the white house will certainly. Have a positive test result and weve got the mitigation plan in place to make sure that the government not only continues to to move forward but the work of the American People continues to work for it move forward and so even is it is recent is is this morning at a little after 8 oclock the president was giving me a number of things to to make sure that i get done and im im sure that i will actually have those. Do outs have to be back to him later today ive got ive got a rather i mean look ive never said anything to me that im not going to ask so i wanted to come out and give an update to all of you is so that is show the courtesy of giving an update well have future updates ill be glad to do that but any other specifics in this point would really go to you know youre ready for your. So that was mark meadows the white house chief of staff talking about the u. S. President on the trump testimony positive for covert 1000 he said the donald trump has mild symptoms and further Health Updates are expected later on friday he said that donald trump is still on the job and will remain on the job and is open to mystic that the president will have a speedy recovery he has also said that all cool stuff at the white house have now been tested. Ok lets hear now from a white house when can we how could he wraps up the developments during the past 24 hours the shocking news came in a late night tweet from the white house President Donald Trump wrote tonight the 1st lady and i tested positive for coded 19 we will begin our quarantine and Recovery Process immediately we will get through this together its not known how despite elaborate precautions and caustic coronavirus testing of white house officials the press corps and others in contact with trump how he contracted the virus but earlier one of trumps aides hope pics was confirmed to have tested positive for hicks a Company Trump to the debate in Cleveland Ohio on tuesday trump phoned in to a Fox Television program on thursday and talked about hicks having been exposed its a tough kind of a situation its a Terrible Bank so i just went for it and well see what happens i mean who knows the white house physician sean conley said trump and the 1st lady are both well at this time that the White House Medical Team will maintain a vigilant watch malani a tromp later tweeted we are feeling good trump has several risk factors the put him in danger of complications from covert 19 hes in his mid seventys and overweight. We have to wait for the next few days. You know for some people get really sick within hours but you know some people dont get sick until week after and so we have to really be carefully observing the situation travis declined to wear a mask on many occasions looting at rallies where many of his supporters also scorned wearing a mask his entourage including family members went without masks at the tuesday debate trump even ridiculed democratic candidate joe biden for wearing a mask as recommended by virtually all Public Health experts i dont wear mesh like him every time you see hes got a mask he could be speaking 200 feet away from it he shows up with the biggest mask ive ever seen if trump became seriously ill and was unable to carry out his duties the constitution provides for Vice President mike pence to take over temporarily pence said he is praying for trumps recovery and on friday tested negative for covert nighty there can be no spin you can be you know harbor ups there has to be clear understanding of what is going on with this person this president United States because otherwise hes not a passage to take care of the business he will have to be by the 25th amendment transition has to occur. But a glaring question now is how the news will affect trumps Reelection Campaign hes already trailing nationally in certain key swing states it would seem the truck can ill afford to stay out of commission for a quarantine period of 2 weeks trump joins other World Leaders including brazils president and the u. K. Prime minister who have also contracted the virus worldwide the death toll from covert 19 has exceeded 1000000 can really help aljazeera the white house while its close no 2 of them for sure whos at the white house or not and so we have this outbreak at the highest level of government weve just heard from the white house chief of staff what is the latest. Well i was there listening to mark meadows hoping to ask a question he says that the president is walking that is given him 6 things to get on with this morning suggested that he was perhaps watching the live pictures and would be critiquing his answers what was interesting is that mark meadows said that senior staff around the president have been tested most of them are negative what he wouldnt say of course is whether or not they will now go into self isolation which according to this or an administration is guidelines they absolutely should do for the next 2 weeks we know that the business of government has got to go on but so many millions of people around the world have been walking from all over the world would have been able to over the last 6 or so months and so you would expect the white house to do the same what was interesting of course is that mark meadows is the chief of staff someone who is our own senior staff all the time close to someone whos just tested positive for covered. Wearing a mask and that is part of the problem for this white house that has been a mixed message. On one hand they say we absolutely encourage masks but if you go to trump rallies then you see that there are so many people there who want wear masks who dont believe in Wearing Masks because the president right at the very beginning didnt endorse that idea and that was a point the nancy pelosi the speaker of the house made speaking in the last couple of hours saying that there would have to be lessons land from the president contracting corporate and one of them is a message to everyone in the country and that is with a mask all right so thats thats the picture of at the white house what about the Donald Trumps opponent in the upcoming election joe biden there was an infamous president ial debate this week what news from the by. Oh well a couple of things 1st of all were told that joe biden will undergo a test that he hasnt already this morning to see whether or not he is covered because of course he was very close to the president on tuesday what is interesting is that the Biden Campaign. When informed by the white house that there was an issue as they were going through Contact Tracing in fact the 1st the phone note about it and the potential risk to the democratic candidate was from the media itself joe biden a statement it took a few hours for that to come out thats unusual the Biden Campaign has a Rapid Response unit which tends to respond to any statement from the white house very quickly took a very conciliatory tone some would even see president ial when he watched the president well and prayed for the recovery there was no political message tied on to back of that ive been speaking to people close to the campaign and said what was the thinking there and they said well to use the president s own phrase it is what it is and people will be able to draw the inference essentially no need for joe biden to attack this with a hammer when people can see for themselves what the issue is the Biden Campaign has said the last 24 hours theyre going to start in paris and canvassing particularly in 4 key states that is no being reviewed particularly in the news here and of course joe biden will have to wait to see whether or not the debate that was due to go ahead in miami will actually go ahead its about 2 weeks away the reality is that. Donald trump although is showing mild symptoms as mark meadows said he is in his mid seventys he may not recover in time and of course theres always the possibility that joe biden might catch it hes 77 hes definitely in a High Risk Group although doesnt carry much excess weight so all of these things have to play out over the next few days it certainly is an unusual Political Development and certainly nothing weve seen in modern political history here in the United States and everybody was talking up the possibility the potential for this socalled october surprise i guess this is that with bells on isnt it what does this do you think. To the election and into how the electorate will perceive things now. This is 2020 this is the United States when you see this is the top of surprise with bells on i can already see the members that see hold on hold my beer because thats where this is going to go after this you would expect it to be a big moment absolutely but theres still a long way to go to the end of october how does affect the race while donald trump likes being out in the crowds he thinks that thats a way to get the message across he picks up Television Coverage both in local stations when he goes to swing states but also in some national stations although not everyone carries him know in the way that they did 4 years ago so he believes this is a good way to get his message out the problem is he cant do that anymore hes got to self isolate at least for 10 probably for 14 days in fact the Trump Campaign this morning sent me a note saying that donald trump will be in texas next week while hes not going to and thats going to hit the fund raising is well he really needed something to change the face