I am going to be ok youre watching the street in the United Nations has declared its attempted Night International date to take education. Because among the well there was 75000000 youngsters who live in countries that and we quite says which means that their education is in jeopardy what does that even look like unesco put together a video where the kids literally dropping out of school take a look. On the stream we are marking a national day to protect education from attack by talking about nigeria and Northern Nigeria and the chinese for youngsters there have a great education i will not be doing this alone and say hello to rosie rosie introduce yourself to our international audience. Good afternoon imagine you have a filmmaker also a journalist ive recently been working on a fellow that to me this week on the. Scene that we were to nigeria who is building the social. Situation nash we have to remember also tonight line delighted to be undisclosed location today bill and i repeat youre very welcome to send us a lot about the film in just a moment but 1st bookie welcome back to the strange friend of the strain remind everybody. Anything more efficiently bears out to be accept through their own freaked us out because where we walk to blows the air quality guards are affecting of our were only 7 vantage population so who every day are based on a collaborative action weve got to be. Good to have you back and bill are a really great to have he tell you a who you are what he did. Thank you very much for having me my name is well im a book atty i work as an analyst are focusing on Subsaharan Africa of the 20 institute for Global Change based in london i am a senior associate nonresident at the International Center for strategic and. For strategic and International Studies which is b. S. In the United States and also economists with daily trust in Nigeria Newspaper im very happy to be here and looking forward to this conversation. Happy to have you well more introduction to duke and that is for you to hear you are in the comments section were talking about education in overnight geria you can comment right here and you too can be in the stream rosie 1st of all made the architect it gives us a really good view of whats happening in Northern Nigeria and to youngsters there and to the Education System that very briefly tell us what the film is about a minute going to play a little bit of the training. The ok suit is really. Who is 36 years old young in her. Final years ago to design of what he calls or being called medicine. Ball no saying this is where people are uncertain thoughts around the name. We against western education. We should find fun for the sake of international donors. 5 years ago building 24. 00 schools in a degree and designing for 20 around the state even though the insurgency is still raging in will areas. Ok as a great set up lets take a look at the trial. You know what i want him to make us have some kind of trouble but he is going to be doing. It whether you believe the other thats going to feel good about anyone not liking water winter i dont know what i was. Going to do was read my book what i mean she didnt seem so coming here was that i would just sing that ill be home that has been one that has made Good Progress in. Education one and one is ghosts go to schools thats a rosy set us up with this film looking at building schools i dont want to give away what happens in a document she rosy but this idea of not enough schools in Northern Nigeria explain why and if School Building is going to help. Sue civically in all her job he says in the northeast nigeria they have been hit by this insurgency before by bahram they say to create an Islamic State is being fulfilled for 11 years and over 2000 teachers earth to form of the children thousands who are children have been. Approved and also 1400. Been destroyed by the insurgents since around 2011 when that any. Power declared war on western education so the fight is about burning down many schools will lead to the most should remember that most in this insurgency you know around the world was the nappanee of these 200 school girls some less school also dollar state. Government Girls Secondary School and so on the. Last 3 or so hes not do not like me over the course of you know. 20 years or so this indicated across Northern Nigeria is not just North East Nigeria this decaying. System we process all but in many other parts of nigeria and this is really led to many people who have the resources to be sending their children to Public Schools while the private schools are up and School System is to. Make booking again this feels like its in education when i create schools and kids can actually things it please go to school how is this project helping. If the debt isnt you know very fantastic specially because we know that if schools are not to have been able. Theres nowhere for children to go to school and that is also considering the 5 that even when we think of technology as the i think we should be. A lot of those children and thats community kind of. Technology but i would like to see if that whether you talk about the top on and on schools i talked to. One law yes will d contextualize them its been. My advice is. These are also situations that are ways that you know all the things in the 5 that schools can be attacked and when you look at it. Its the which is and its and then once again you would see how that went on stakes in what we believe basically at systematic only. Schools or who want 6000000 children have been affected and the results of these mad on that out to 6000 of those children that are affected ague else going on but its a lot 443000 who out of the 3000 and the shop of them now are affected but let me close my thoughts when i seen that this conversation with their we had 80 of covina 19 it being to the question of section and. I was aware. That when we say its a waste thats how its spent you know child and keisha we see how a lot of girls. Access to adequate michelle and sort of the day interest because. Many of those projects have nots to go its all going to school all schools these are the result of seeing schools that do nothing to him because they are. Yours of course for the fair or the. Health consequences are we more or less a lot of go there who are still being sexually abused sorbet me as i stick my nose they sure are absolutely crosssectional sure that we are. In charge of education is really on the. Lower the way that we really understand Northern Nigeria from a new space fact if it is looking at and their activities and rosie really covered it well as i how do we get these young people out of the book of iran and then doing something thats very constructive their governor of borno state described. As being a young man is being pregnant with id is just such a great visual but having no way to share those ideas how do you see. In the context of where we are in t 20 and then impacting kids at school or kids out of school because a covert. I mean just. That it was an incredible suit and. Education for me is the most important weapon that to endow maine and finally defeat book. But unfortunately education is a long term investment. While politicians talk think in election cycles and unless we have that aint right kind of investment into education then it will be very difficult to get books out of military the military air force should continue of course theyre important explicitly because they would contend that violence but address in the root causes of boko haram need my safe investment in education and i think thats part of what we see in the film. That you just spoke about but wait and then that we need. Much more than just coffee talk Capital Investment into it we need investment into the money power by employing 258 teaches and what youve hit it with would savvis conditions we need excellent managers and administrators strut i mean is that the billions and men tend dumb and we just need continued investment into education if we were. To now that the point is that i am and is pregnant with 8 years as the governor rightly said the former governor i should say but he is and example of the thousands of night g. B. N. You with that how do you to make change in that empty and in whose we stands people who were born before independence and who have exhausted their ideas without taking our country anywhere so what i would see into that owned. In that judea is to give way to young people like ahmed gov catching jetsunma has sent an exam. And i think more people should be given an opportunity young people in this state and we have across nigeria we have been intense of thousands they are hungry to make changes. With ideas but there is no opportunity it cant our exit in politics because it requires a matter of capital invested men network and skin in and and destroy young for that and i think this is a wake up call for an amputee and politicians to give the young generation an opportunity to impact on lives in their communities. I guess we could spend a week talking about the issues impacting not is education over nigeria but 9 tyria i want to pivot a little bit because youll tearing wood which is really tackling some of those big challenges for instance up lad who is an architect he talks about what he has intense of his skill set that will change the level of education that is available for youngsters lets have a listen to him he spoke to us a little bit earlier building a guinness book just particularly in the not history you know of nigeria is the most part which will for a long time it is as i guess bill clinton is against but what has destroyed over our antos in 400 schools and firsthand its all to gloss over the 1000000 children or gently need access to education and in the history you know of Nigeria Education is the only weapon that plays significant role in their lives it housed them on their trauma it also helps them to have hopes about future so the expression of education up a salute is into region is the best response to what the times actions to stick with it kitchen. Rosie i have a question for you from the roche events to the 80 and he says how would this education protect the students from book a home rom especially goals the go child deals with society know what education has to do emphasis on early marriage and then being baby factories and then some and then some and then some rosy how do you deal with that. Then i got one of the 1st questions that i asked. How he had integrated security into is designs. But in the village it was if you have your tune you have to go to do a degree we say the so us at least. They all the. Researcher by not only hide this is that they have a double fence many of them and. They are mighty curious ritual. Cancelable around its heavily fortified is heavy presence in and so i think that was really you know behind thinking when he decided to concentrate on city because he felt that it was better. Than now and then the outlying areas it is true there is a very heavy military presence there in terms of some of the perennial problems they see children around sick girl. Children in. Nigeria issues that are poverty its hard. Ultimately i just said education is the best rates her. You know. And it isnt the bride price it is you know its a Promotional Exchange ultimately is that you know who are educated. Always. Opens and saying at least they. Wait to. See the next generation and therefore. Rara be reversed. Ok ok im just going to tell you that we hear you so if you could sit back and youll see it will be a come back to you so sunny says on you tube look around has unleashed terror on the Education Sector especially girls schools the federal government is however china its best to determine in ending the insurgency successes have been recorded to lama is that a positive approach is that a positive comment are you seeing that. Yes so just to bring a bit off more context lets understand that boko haram say thats going to education is not accidental reject in education and attacking it is the video or book or adams ideology the group is. Founded on this head straight for Western State education and they give Different Reasons in their rhetorics in that it deliberate attack and i made this the point because that at some places that i typed that can be seen as 10 gents joke that. There isnt but if you case and education im schools because they are schools and education and as the comment to pass it yes the federal government didnt ask. And says this against boko haram we knew that there were about 24 local governments in the hands of. The that territory has shrunk but boko haram it meant imminent threats and what we have seen in the last saw is these increases in this occasion on the part of the group we have recorded some of them with spectacle attacks in chad not judy i mean just in the last 10 months and schools are not secure. And if we continue to see the incidents like the one we saw in chibok which was about 60 or so who knows what they went into well 111. 00 goes where taking i mean at at at midday at noon i mean they were taken just like that now if we continue to see those kinds of attacks we might have that you didnt we might have the infrastructure but theyll get nobody to show up in those schools judy nice to be stepped out stepped up and bought an International Organizations would look at i mean you can do that in schools it was free zone in the northeastern part of not judea and i dont they looked at me and i know boko haram is a very difficult group but im too. Oh my god now but there could be some home or some kind of art i mean do you know or see actions that will lead to these impact on schools on hospitals and that will not be yes its true yes sometimes it doesnt matter there are still problems not just to tell and just old that we need to confront them bookie i see you nodding let me share this view and then and then you can jump back into a conversation main fight is so many says the question is what kind of education are young says able to have in Northern Nigeria you have had some successes with improving the Education System of young people share those with us ok go ahead thank you. Talk about education. And well talk about it china. For a moment and there is a book a how tight for a moment but a. Book in how tight for a moment sympathy can hear me but you know talk for a moment were not hearing you clearly and i really want to hear you call refresh your browser while i go to. A sort that takes us back to this International Day to protect education from attack because i went to unicef and they have this in terms of why this day was important why we should be thinking about not just the nigerian context but in the global context have a listen. The proclamation of the Magna International the board of education for attacks aimed at sending a receipt regarding the embargoes or see what i mean. Please use of projects and see people students in general and our enemies on the challenge of free israel children living in countries created by a graphics. Excuse me for my acronym the un i couldnt mix up i should a setting yes go and that brings us back to the film the witness fill out read the architect being connected to this idea of protecting education from attack rosie why is a day like september the knife where children around the world are recognized for the difficulties that are having to get into school to be well educated why is it important from your perspective. Especially important this year as a book you mentioned earlier because the code. In many ways is made everybody who was anywhere in the world of the subject its a lot and realize the importance of education as important is for their children so for them to surveillance well but then of course this is. 2020. Rewind to 28 like they were still you know too many pockets in the world whether its syria iran nigeria mexico where schools are coming under. The most interesting thing that heard so far is the. Suggestion by people other than that maybe. Dont this is a national day and actually look have ways to against our troops to vet. Schools. You know this really feel that this is just this is the 1st day for the protection of. Education but i feel that you whats great about it is that hes you know starting a century conversation in a year where almost every school has been affected by it and that education of course has been affected and disrupted. And you just go back to this this idea of this this day you knew you taught us how many different areas the youngsters at the Education System in nigeria is juggling with trying to cope with how does it how does a day as a unesco day help with that understanding. I think you know one key it been about i mean for national ad related this is the fact that it helps also indicates the bleak on what the or what the issues already conciseness her it helps us all soul to understand be context or do you mean i need to so different groups of people and when we look at this day that we commemorate him for the 1st time the International Day its a good sector took a shot well. Thats one day that weve weve never heard and a lot of people still do not understand what the issues are and so a day like this helps us to sensitize the public like you know we are doing its also helps us to more be life for me its who we are you know all of their last wed at the International Level to russia that level it is so passionate and there but most importantly it helps us to say leave great Senate Debate i know you for the achievements of humanity and we cant know what the architect as though and what we would see are. So we stayed there like this it is critical for us to have the conversation but what we are strategies to deal with the issues that we have all identified bookie thank you so much rosita lama and thank you so much. Take me building schools in North East Nigeria is part of the documentary series you can see it on line out is eva dot com and on said on t. V. Thank you guys thank you chip for the excellent resistance and i see you start to get. Business leaders just want to find the brass paul. Business leaders just want to find the brass paul. One of australias most love making and im the one that is under threat from an agonizing to say one wildlife country that is dedicating your life to say what i want to east makes the woman who spoke on aljazeera. 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