Is the government not to take the necessary action to really address some of the structural issues we listen i still think that air travel is the safest mode of travel and to spend that we meet with global news makers and talk about the stories that matter. Is the coronavirus pandemic a chance to tackle Climate ChangeScientists Say we shouldnt forget the dangers of the warming climate for all for Major Economies small island nations so can recovery from the Global Health crisis help heal our environment as well this is inside story. I. Have air on that clock welcome to the special edition of inside story in collaboration with the International Federation of red cross and red crescent societies not world sadly well aware of the crisis brought on by the coronavirus pandemic but many experts are saying the world also urgently needs to refocus on a far more dangerous threat the reality of runaway Climate Change with attention focusing on covert 19 the impacts of a warming world rage on with our climate changing faster than predicted right now a record breaking wildfires burning in the launch areas of california this northern summer meteorologists have recorded the highest temperatures ever see from los angeles to the up to the atlantic Hurricane Season is upon us already breaking records with storm after storm piling up and disastrous flooding from senegal and sudan to bangladesh and kenya and all the while the polar ice sheets are melting adding to the ongoing threat of Sea Level Rise of 19 that many say present an opportunity for the world to act urgently and change course. Were facing 2 critical crisis coffee and Climate Change thats a 2nd dose and leave future generations with the hope that these moments is the true turning point for people and planet i have proposed 6 climate positive actions to recover better invest in green jobs do not buy large polluting industries and fossil fuel subsidies take Climate Risks into account in all financial and policy decisions Work Together and most important leave no one behind many countries and cities are now prioritizing Green Investments in their postcard with recovery plans well small island state of the say from the pacific to the caribbean a very much at the front line of a Climate Crisis bearing the brunt of Sea Level Rise in the devastating impacts of extreme weather yet they account for less than one percent of global Greenhouse Gas emissions for some communities its already too late is rising seeds have inundated homes and businesses so what can be done to fix this deepening emergency for island nations or developed countries on earning their commitments to help and if not why not and how do we take advantage of the trillions of dollars of covert stimulus packages to ensure the world emerges cleaner greener and safer for all. All right lets bring in our guests on this panel for a discussion is part of the i r i f r steve climate read Virtual Conference in the carbon on immigrant aid and senator simon steele whos minister of Climate Resilience and the environment Marshall Islands in the pacific to carla standing by for us secretary general of the mosul islands Red Cross Society and in geneva in switzerland jay can shop again secretary general of the International Federation of red cross and red crescent societies will warm welcome to you all broke to carla lets start with you in the Marshall Islands if i may so you live on this island nation encircled by the vastness of the Pacific Ocean the the danger is right there up close give us a sense of what the Marshall Islands is going through now what youre experiencing and what the future holds. And we experience the end tax of Climate Change daily and do we have a compound that impacts as so it could be. As our reef systems are suffering because of Ocean AcidificationSea Level Rise and yet we have to keep living day to day and responding to all of these impacts and. Its stressful its just felt to have those compound it impacts and on top of that were still dealing with the legacy of the Nuclear Testing that was conducted here of course you have to deal with emergencies as a 1st responder but youre also said living these experiences these threats all the time and every day tell us more about how the communities have to cope when when flooding when the king tides come in for example. For example looking tired all of our staff and volunteers are mobilized and we have to take care of our families as well as assistant evacuating our families and then go back into the communities and then go back and assist with cleaning up and. And then go by right back into our daily duties. Right then and right and when you say cleaning up what sort of things you see what the People Living with. After title of. You know were a small island nation and we dont have lots of. Ways to dispose of our garbage and it could be organic waste it could be waste from from the dump. Damage to houses damage to gravesites eroding coastlines and it takes a lot of effort and a lot of energy are you worried for the existence of your nation. So worried somewhat. Im more on the hopeful side and to be honest. None of us are willing to give up so we are all fighting and we are all working together and i think we all have to err on the side of hope thats louis optimism is the word is that were lets cross the world lets go 40000 kilometers away on the to the island nation of grenade or in the Caribbean Sea and theres some of the steel in grenada what impacts are you experiencing there tell us about your experiences and how Climate Change is manifesting itself there in the caribbean. I think. The presentation we just had from brockton the Marshall Islands is typical of what were experiencing here in grenada as well and i think its a common story and a Common Thread that runs through the challenges and experiences that we all small island develop in states whether its in the caribbean the pacific engine ocean wherever. These are. Truly challenging times Climate Change is here it is very real and the government it is an extreme challenge not only dealing with our. Ordinary day to day National Development priorities educating our children ensuring the health care of our citizen infrastructure all of those things that we face as a developing nation are now compounded by the extreme threats. And the impacts that with scene on a day to day basis of Climate Change and that has significant economic. Challenges for us and as we look forward and we see the Global Responsibility that exists in terms of collective Climate Action ensuring that we reduce Greenhouse Gas emissions that we ensure that the temperature rise is contained within that 1. 00 degrees the whole of. We see it only jetton worse so. As a government we have to grapple with those things reality plans for the future of small island developing states we are showing the ambition but its called flow of global level however that our ambition and the action that we can take is severely constrained by our local resources and the limited fiscal space we have to carry out those actions ok let me leave you alone let me move on to jagan chaff again thanks for setting out the story for us both of you that in grenada are in the Marshall Islands but jenkins have again that your secretary general of an organization has declared the Climate Crisis a dire humanitarian emergency the world of course has been dealing as i said earlier with another emergency and thats coronavirus how do you think the potential impacts of Climate Change down the line compare with what the world is experiencing now here in 2020 with coronavirus covered 90. Thank you so much but the question of course is right now we have to put. This. Caucus almost every country of. Millions of people killing hundreds of homes that have been couple of great interest in learning come. One is of course who for the new where were on some of these new where were. Allowed us to find a way to work in a more environmentally friendly manner the 2nd thing the equipment one thing. We have to come together is a group we we live in a global we dont come together. Not possible respond to the crisis like the court and also apply to be the climate. Sometimes we see this narrow thinking around these countries affected countries affected by crime and im sort of caught type of thinking on for were not going to have. A country in the press big i. B. M. Of the caribbean. The call global economys going to convict. One the world is affected by a climate since. This of the war you remember a few years ago went bankrupt or the whole supply thing was affected all around the world because bankers many of the little material from the book some maturity of to the world are manufacturing war so one can listen from the corporate to the Climate Crisis would be that we have to this. Is a global. Term were going to jump in there it is all she one thing in terms of the impacts of the coded 19 crisis that weve seen across the world do you think a crime with emergency would create fall more stress around the world far more danger and difficulties for people its probably not have to compare one crisis with the other is having to see that impact. But what i feel is you know. The Direction Technology hopefully would be available next year the medical advice thats happening the countries that are loading that probably in a couple of times look line the way to deal with. What the climate. Of the climate. You know if you can have longer. I mean to have a multiple impact on the life from ivan could. Do have the impact of the Economic Impact on how the countrys finances we could manage in the longer. Can have a media act. Of the human beings in the long term so if we think from that perspective the biggest and the. Impact of climate and the people i think would be better even if i dont i cannot think of any other. That would have the type of impact the crime this would have. On the on the line i wrote a book to carla given that nations like yours had nothing to do with causing Global Warming thats down to the big industrialized nations yet your very existence or your way of life at least is is threatened because of it what responsibility should be borne by the Major Economies. Mitigation you know we are we have no choice but to adapt to Climate Change and constantly adapting adapting our shorelines adapting our ways of life and i think the larger economies the larger states they have a great responsibility to mitigate those impacts so that Frontline Community if from small and small island states a large ocean states indigenous communities do not have to continue adapting and to to take on that responsibility and to fully Fund Investments schemes like like t. C. F. So that we have access to assistance when we need it and senator still at 2020 of course is supposed to be a crucial year for the climate with the 1st true test of the Paris Agreement industrialized nations supposedly pledging to step up their ambitious climate plans because of it brought what have amendments and there was to a shuddering halt how much of a setback has 2020 been in terms of making progress on Climate Change. It is a step setback however it gives us an opportunity as a Global Community as the un extra see. To look at some of the sticking points that have existed since the Paris Agreement was signed in 2015 there are some Critical Issues that have been kicked down the road over the past 5 years whether its agreement on the paris rulebook whether this issue such as loss and damage which are so important to small island developing states the commitment for the 100000000000. 00 a year commitment from developed nations in support of mitigation and adaptation financing for that and then you come into this year was in it in 2020 ups absolutely and a call for ambition with the new when he sees so i believe we should take advantage of the additional time that we have for its an op committee for the governments who now holds the cop presidency to work with nations developed and developing nations alike to have an inclusive approach in the negotiations and let us get to the core issues that as a Global Community weve been on able to address since paris so the opportunity is to take advantage of the additional time so that the outputs of glasgow in 2021 is actually meaningful and reflective of the ambitions and the goals that were set back in 2015 embarrassed and Surgeon General jake in charge again as you alluded to 1000 has actually over the lessons of having once you presented opportunities not least through the trillions of dollars of stimulus packages to what degree has the potential for progress improved because of the vast sums of money that nations can threat recovering from covert 1000. 00 but also at a crema green a future which will help the small island nations down the line. I think this is a very very important point and i want to be them in the sense that i think a lot of time the. Amount of and their spent on the ocean is the discussion for meetings and conferences i think we start moving the hokus to our actions that will be i think very very important the sources had of the sources have always been a kind of billions of dollars for resources have been a bite and of course public with the covert means that its been more resources coming in but the fundamental mistake i believe that is happening is we havent been able to in the crime of crime it approaches not more development we have been investing billions of dollars not one Development Activity but somehow we seem to keep the development on the one side and quite the shortest of the Climate Action on the other and of course the amount of Resources Available are not. What we need to do and the government and the organizers like this have to hook us and we need to get the climate the smart Climate Smart development in our normal development you know im not one of many in this right representing as a general. Im sort of just going to jump in there again its easy to say that we need to do these things but just yesterday the answer general intended to terry said that too much stimulus spending is already going to reinforce call concentric policies and when that just be the whole story it will be just wasted opportunity how do we make sure that money goes in the right direction here. And i think thats exactly where the government and of course when comes the rednecks and like ill step out of mathematics we have the state trooper out or we go and make the president paddies and we go on the gratian in new york but when we go back home we go back to our all happy and this is something has to come from inside ourselves inside our own couple to protect our plans to predict the future when our children and grandchildren it doesnt have to be imposed by someone someone else the Government House to make a difference in their own country and i should have the commitment to make that kind of in my organization so the elite gen think that. Into the real commitment is the big issue and somehow we have looking put into math lessons but important ourselves why do i need binding that laces we steer my arms and i dislike the commitment i can thats the fabric the sponsor that is the global leader. Otherwise people spending time on new shiny new deprivations and were looking for within course them but not really sensing our behavior right and thats why the selfdiscipline is the most important happened to me this is absolutely essential still your Prime Minister said last year the grenade or another small island states are not prepared to play a waiting game waiting for the Major Economies to come to the 4th and come to your rescue but realistically senator what youll turn of as a small island developing fact we have to show leadership. I believe that that is something that is in question at a global level we are at the front cloying of the impacts of Climate Change we have no choice this is a matter of life and death for us. So with all without the support of the International Community we will do those things that we know we need to do and can do ourselves but were also realistic and recognize we cannot do all that its necessary without that International Support and in an environment where there is a leadership. Than we a small island of elephants they are stepping forward to demonstrate that leadership but as effective general 3rd we have to complete the rhetoric and the words into concrete action and i think one of the areas where there isnt enough focus is recognizing that Climate Action is actually Good BusinessGood Business at a local level Good Business at a global level however the need for the political well to make those necessary transition that required for it to get on to that path is what were battling with right now. Brooke to color in the Marshall Islands this phrase green a clean the future trips off the tongue doesnt it talking about reducing emissions electric cars and so forth different forms of Sustainable Energy but for you the land is literally disappearing under your feet all of that wont help the predicament that you are in right now what do you need to happen. I think we just we need people to realize that they they also everyone has a moral obligation to to this place to the pacific to ocean states and that our ocean health directly impacts human health so so again for for investment to be accessible to. For for larger states to to take that political will and like the other 2 guests have said. To turn that into action. And we will just keep doing the on the ground work because we have no choice here Surgeon General in geneva has a Global Response to giving you hope that we can the world can come together to solve what is this greater more dangerous problem. You know im im a little bit with my colleagues from the past live and ideally want to be on the side. Of it has grown you know if we understand the problem in kandahar i think the one difference for really between the corporate and the crime is. That the what would impact its often comes up once we have seeing our print from families being affected by this so thats why there is an urgency in action unfortunately in the climate we have lost the same level of argentine action but what will be get them on stage is that if the war comes together and put all this is your sister gather is this it is a sign to the gravitas that we are seeing Different Countries you know we can make progress and i absolutely believe the same is possible when it comes to crime and that we need to have a poor poor one is a Global Solidarity i think thats extremely extremely important what the other speakers talk about that. All short importance to put on the hook or domestic action if every government is doing what they asked of work to do in their country it will have a Global Impact so what elements need to get the same Global Solidarity for that the same crime busting acts and use of your own countries you have reducing the Carbon Emissions you are investing on the metaphor that there is a high you have never heard of the full capacity in the conference you are creating the green job you are investing in the clean then you are investing in the clean industry that is gone everywhere in the world has the war that type of global and domestic approach needs to go hand in hand but im very bad. That the world will come together we ask seeing the impact on life more and more and well create what moral obligation but i also believe it will create the political obligation of the leadership to come together. 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