I know im melissa chair and im guest hosting while fairly ok is away for a few days today well be talking about the computer protect journalists latest Campaign Missing and not forgotten and learn about the stories of some of these reporters from people who know them as always on you tube cleaves post your comments and questions so that you too can plug into the stream. Welcome to our guest today he she reached here at the net and im going to ask each of you introduce yourself to everyone well start with sharif with that committee to protect journalists. Their mother used the d program. To. Show us the documents. And those who are missing because of the war. Welcome pierre yet. My name is. Not enough and i have been working as a report. Editor for ready you watch the news you watch will only busy busy one of this you independence me just still operating in the country. And. I also. Did a lot of stories about the disappearance of the missing journalists and i believe the time to talk. Absolutely and 100 ed please tell us about yourself. Thank you for having me and my name is im on the money doing that or toe matter now if you had since he was his affairs the only photograph yards and seen in iraq we are supporting for those who are not let us in on the country and also we have a next 4 or 70 more than 74 hours on offices in iraq or the savita. Thanking you and welcome sharif im going to start with you tell us about this campaign and why youre doing it right now. Well there are similarly isms one we are coming here and celebrating the commercial. Disappearance of the oldest city and and also. Just. Trying to shed only. Needed peel but a lot of those who are who waited until a lot of the conflicts the military confrontation in the middle east. And then instead its like Islamic State not really. Syria libya the more and a lot of the focus that we as an Organization Today than. President of the law is of cases of killed journalists and imprisoned journalists continued to exist but at least as of last year the numbers of illegal immigrants. Who are in prison until it. We saw this this is a good time to also. Work was you in an institution will have millions allstate fall in pieces of can say journalist and those consulates but now. Theyre not clear to. Those who specifically cover this appearance cases who said for their own boy in the film on its leash and then this to gay should and confluence. And the m. And. S. Mandate to operate on to try and bring those asian even though the local context. And i also want to at this point show everyone the website for the committee to protect journalists and the section related specifically to this campaign here you can see 64 journalists missing all over the world with a lots of red in the middle east section but also you can see in america mexico is another place where a lot of journalists go missing and if you are curious you can scroll down and do a search where you can see also the names of the journalists and you can click and learn about their bios take a closer look at 1000 journalists missing in iraq lebanon and syria in 2020 years also a very handy as well where you can pull it up and look at where in the us have been in this ng. I also wanted to get this opportunity at this time to show a video clip that the committee to protect journalists have put out and this is from rita and george their brother samir disappeared in syria in 2013 take a look he has always been the big brother whos the 1st us family he has. The rule more than. The. 2. From has started to hood. Making photography like money money is you find that question. So he decided to travel and try it in another country the water for sky in yours where he phoned to. Prove himself as a profession of. Journalism. A lot of. What he what he was going for. Despite he carried on. For a photo journalism but did not think was the last thing he would ever think of performing. His mission his job. Your brother a camera. Was captured by isis and has been missing for more than 6 years before i ask you more about him i want to show a clip its an audio clip from him about why he does what he does. I always have thought that i have something a little bit more different not more important i cant say this but different and what they asked for me. I meant my question is do you ever expect accountability after 6 years and how what kind of resolution do you hope for. The war will disappear in the kidnapping is something that i just heard from your movies before 2014. Coming on this appear its going to be. 6 years on how well everyday living with this war so if you dont. Barack to this time were disappearing and think you know theres a big difference between the whole in 2014 the expectation that they have also what are good as a result of finding my brother 1st of all who as a brother also or a doormat was. Told so many photographs of our forums are not as them and us in all of us to show the pretty side of iraq. As a part of the cover of the making of the accountability are also of the result i can say some believe that i cant see the whole or part of the my brother if you are looking through the force of the government and. Some of the afghans edition. And i want to take this opportunity right now ahmed to show the website of graffiti this is the news agency that was started by your brother and that you continue to work on today as the director and this is their main page and i encourage people to also check out their instagram because there are some amazing pictures the work of local journalists in iraq not people from outside of iraq coming in taking pictures. Now i want to turn to pierre here you were a work colleague of John Bigirimana in broome the one of the few independent news rooms there tell us what happened. Well. First of all i need to say it is obviously the man i was. Kind of newly recruited by the watch or d before he was working for another another reused. Who is believed to be close to ready ruling r. T. C. And the f. T. So shortly after its few days he got recruited by the watch. So we heard reports of his possible we seeing and later on are rebuilt to be in up duction and docks many composers saying that it was d done by the engines or of. The D Secret Service or the Intelligence Service of the government or were only saw. Their job to get him on and then. Tried to to conduct its own investigation to find out exactly and hes aware while its a bit we would not make it we know we went to the initial d commission for human rights and tried to do its going to get a geisha and the police tried to say that it did what it might do but on syria now nobody can tell exactly what the journalist isso or we have done a lot more kind of remember i came in watch of from 10 to 16 on syria now but to date nobody knows his whereabouts and the majority of us we lost or and we say he was killed he is dead because we know nothing about him and he was married and had. 2 children 2 boys a which of course and unfortunately because of my own supports raids decided to try to leave the country yeah and now they are not in the country. And of course on the website there is a page dedicated to your colleague John Bigirimana and a town or went missing more than 1400 days and i also think its important to show people the im going to show everyone the front page of the english language landing page of you what you because it gives you a sense of what kind of journalism has been done this independent news youre going to take a look at the headlines governments youve support raises concerns to economists and heres another one look opposition disappointed by the new cabinet so you can well imagine why there were people who felt threatened by the journalist in this news room now the cases of John Bigirimana and. Cameron are not the only ones of course and this stream reached out to speak to colleagues and Family Members of other reporters whove gone missing please have a listen. In september 2001 my uncle seem to hire who was a journalist was in prison without a trial in eritrea 1000 years later we have seen no information about his conditions as whereabouts about why he wasnt present he has received a day in trial or any kind of justification for us and president and i fight for his release for several reasons one of the reasons is because he deserves justice as an individual another reason is because his family deserves justice and they deserve to see their loved you know brother sound father and has from the get go and thirdly because his imprisonment was not just an isolated event there was a part of their 10 regimes plan to silence their action people. To. Go. Just. For the. Race. War. And. And the war. Will be one day. I learned then or she then im a journalist more than 8 years ago my colleague one of the one of the always have dr martin so in his apartment at knifepoint the government at the time refused to investigate the in the disappearance and we have evidence that some government officials were involved in the cover up that it wasnt just reminds disappearance but there are. Attacks torching the media offices and to this day there has been knowledge justice for all these crimes against journalists. And there you 2 community has responded we have here are for example Asif Mahmoudi mon singh lots of journalists are missing from bangladesh issue and then just master flags saying that laws against kidnapping already exist people who do this do not care and heres it interesting question from sudanese friend down whats the best tool for protecting the journalist in the conflict area as well as we have to think about why so many governments in africa and other Countries Worldwide do this im going to go to sharif and ask you that question 1st. Sure were. Caught in the military conflict is a lot of musicians with records on a lot of trading and a lot of safety guidelines we see p. J. Would try to perform at some of those large lines. Before anyone else goes to risky to get one of the luxury of accountability to rule of law including prosecution again as the traitors of attacks against all of us and. Not just prison and gentleness and killing them methods. Of. Jugglers and could never in syria and just as an untold riches and 13 there were more than 100 case of kidnapping and see if you took advantage to show how unprecedented the level of press cause and that helped a lot of people who work in safety including. Safety for freelancers local journalists photos owners who do not have an umbrella of support from an employer or a local support to get more information and some of them for example in syria and we have at least 60 journalists escape to safety from and to live and surrounding area due to the conflict to europe. Here and what kind of impact did it have been easier on your colleague john disappeared. Well im not checking on it. Well to be honest d i must say. It was hard it was a hard reality to rise to. Because i actually when a person when ive jolliest of course journalists are supposed to be a family so when you hear one of your one of your colleagues is reported missing this creates a sense. It came as a for as its raised to the john its just too in their way that its hard it was a little bit harder for us to be able to do the work that way were supposed to be doing it because most of the attention was on the i tried to talk to the to his disappearance and we conducted multiple reports about his disappearance but within our hearts it was some kind of grief some kind of group about imagine having somebody missing you dont know his whereabouts and you tried to conduct an investigation the government it seems to be not much more important and this is you understand that we really are kind of but feelings. Im struck because peer mentioned that journalism and journalists are kind of like a family and here you didnt start out being the journalist your brother was the journalist and hes continued to do what he used to do you know is that one reason why youre driven to continue to run to try to feed. Actually 2014 i was trying to get out of my class in germany to start studying music and i was far away from journalism i was helping cameron because in 2005 when cameron was taking photos in kirkuk he the cover its one of the exclusion and he phoned his identity and said i have a photo of their 15 people died right now and i want to see the 2 years to be published and i does he says sorry cameron we are not going to take your story today because we do have another story from mosul that 35 People Killed and many more injured but one of the the well know that accountability is going back to the nude identities that made the journalist as to cover the bloody side of the situation and thats why mr graef is found thats come out and said what about the abuse side of iraq of course we are going to cover all the negative 5 balls and all the others but what about our civilization what about covering the beauty thats what in 2008 or 9 it was never the other american cofounder they made little graphic and i was witness and what can one trying to do all the photojournalists as were trying and they were competent each other to get the blood here for us and if i go only back to government and their organization does that im not supporting journalists or not protecting them what about the news. And see that there always are or during the bloody 4 or so we were trying to convince and to show the different size and i still remember when one of our photo story was not about the explosion publishing c. N. N. And others we were celebrating it so thats why i left my cue yet i missed our been a director of this i didnt see it and im really proud of it. And there something very special and different when local journalists report on the story schieffer i want to just go back to this campaign and then a little carious has there been successful cases where missing journalists have been found and what were the things that you believe really helped. Well a lot of the good cases are cases of journalists who disappear with maybe a. Little 100 cases of clinton. In syria or many of them are in the u. S. And any more. Than fortunately most of the cases we documented for those missing some terms say code for the kids surety of that is. Recent cases have incidents. But there are cases to wave to the. Civil war in the ninetys and some 2 in early 2000 it in iraq and also cases more of just not even try and then mean it leads to our current ability. Of our what i want to say is the hope is the u. N. Mechanisms but also. A lot of the Diplomatic Community and cross and other International Organizations will continue to press local initiatives or for people to continue to demand that their families are. To defend the Broader Authority and of censorship. In stories that are not told because people are afraid to go missing. So they dont even cover those too. Yes the hash tag is missing not forgotten we are getting nearer to the end of the show and i want to give pierre and ahmed a chance to tell the viewers what can they do what can people do in each of your respective cases a colleague and a Family Member that happened last year what is your message to everyone i met my my my most Important Message is to their family to their journal out to their family which is composed of journalists in general well i should tell them is we should not be afraid we should do our work despite multiple 3. Against our us and in that thing i would just call on the government or i mean the people who are close to the government not just to take journalists is the enemies of the country journalist into the building of the nation and being a journalist is not a crime journalist journalism has never been a crime its arrived the way of rwanda reinforcing 3 dumb of expression and by so doing everybody can have a talk everybody can feel they belong to the world because they had a voice can reach far and to journalism saw our deal for it in everybody with the uppity to do whatever it takes to protect journalists wherever they are because the at the lights of the world. Avnet whats your message to everyone. Up to the situation in iraq. The feeling my feel friends and put on others is as they should be the people that bring the news not trying to be the news or not affected by their not having education by Security Forces so when you are in frontline you are alone and no one is going to protect in your wildest so many politic of artists they have come for like the Security Forces so you are not on. The war and you will get support in the future. Care ive met and sharif think you so much for joining us today and i would be remiss if we didnt mention al jazeera as all on journalist Mahmoud Hussein who has been detained in egypt hes not missing hes been detained in egypt for more than 1300 days theres his challenger and his web site free man weve seen dot com if youd like to know more thats it for now thank you so much for watching and well see you next time. Business leaders as to why no bra spar. With. Business leaders as to why no bra spot. 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