If we understand the differences and similarities of cultures across the wound. Center magic. Aljazeera bringing the news and Current Affairs that matter to. Aljazeera. Its approved and called sputnik 5 russia says its the 1st vaccine against covert 19 but many governments are skeptical so what are russian scientists pressure to cut corners and is there significance of the timing of the announcement this is inside story. Hello welcome to the program. Since the outbreak of covert 19 theres been a global race to find a vaccine but scientists are worried some countries maybe are brushing the process and compromising safety earlier this week russian president Vladimir Putin said his country has approved the worlds 1st Coronavirus Vaccine put in says it shows what he called sustainable immunity against the virus in his own daughter was in aka lated but scientists in russia and abroad are skeptical about its effectiveness they say offering to the public before the important final stage of testing could pose Serious Problems we bring in our guest in a moment 1st this report from charley and its a race Everyone Wants to win but rushing it could prove fatal president putin says russia has approved a vaccine against covert 19 despite not completing crucial phase 3 Clinical Trials not who can use usually you and you today. In the morning the 1st vaccine against the new corona virus infection was registered although i know it works they effectively form stable immunity and i repeat it has gone through all the necessary checks dubbed sputnik 5 after the 1st satellite in space the vaccine has only been tested on 138 people one of them 2 tins daughter based on a proven vaccine against add in a virus the common cold this vaccine allegedly gives immunity against 1000. 00 for 2 years but the results of that limited trials have yet to be made public. Coronavirus has ripped through russia it has the 4th highest number of cases in the wild the Health Ministry says doctors and teachers will receive the 1st doses before a Mass Vaccination Program starts in january 20 countries have rushed to preorder it read 1000000000 doses according to moscow but the World Health Organization says the vaccine has not got best on top of approval yet we are in a close contact with the russian how her car keys discussions are going to respect possible government truck requalification of democracy yeah prepublication of money maxine the rigorous review process all required in effect and the Scientific Community say the speed of development and lack of transparency is causing them concern we have no idea whether even the claims that are being made about the safety and the immune response of this virus are true or not i hope theyre true you know once there is a safe and effective vaccine personally i dont care where it comes from we need to Work Together to get this to everybody around the world one of the things that i worry about is that you know this is really more about you know sort of geopolitics and being able to claim victory it may put pressure on other countries to cut corners on safety and effectiveness as well and that could put us all in danger. Until the w. H. O. Give the vaccine the queen light this is not a race russia can claim to have one child angela aljazeera. Lets bring in our panel in moscow what have maria lipman senior associate of the institute for European Russian and eurasian studies a George WashingtonUniversity Lancaster derek gatherer biologist and lecturer of the Lancaster University also in moscow constantine so very no professor of the skulk over institute of science and technology and head of the laboratory Waksman Institute for microbiology are trying to go as University Welcome to all maria in an ideal world when someone and now says that a vaccine for covert 19 is ready to use should generate massive momentum and optimism what weve seen is the opposite skepticism all over the world why do you think so well apparently and what are so many experts and laymen seem to agree that this vaccine has not been tested enough that their results of the testing conducted so far have been insufficient and certainly inconclusive seems that important phases of the testing have been skipped and what so far what the report it as a scientific success in is used for political purposes for taking pride in. Pro big of the world that russia has a superiority in science. Derek what is the problem here the problem number one is because the russians have not shared any of the data about phase one and phase 2 with this Scientific Community they really helpful if we had that data we know virtually nothing of talk about this vaccine other than that it sir. Based on the chimpanzee advice platform its the chant platform which is also the basis for the chat auxlang seen which is the oxford vaccine so that we would assume that it works and more lace the same way as the oxford vaccine but apart from that we know very little told its probably be through face one and face true Clinical Trials and what about gates and face the trial starting know that that means its not really much for the pipeline and several other vaccine projects but the difference seems to be that its going to be ruled out to the general population rather fast. Constantius i mean when the russians say the moving forwards with using the new vaccine without starting phase number 3 i mean this goes against the whole. Culture of the has been prevailing for decades in the Scientific Community well actually if you look at small trends youll see that for a general public to the scene not going to be released until some time in 2021. So in a way it could well be that the claim for the registration of the axiom is just essentially a declaration that if these 3 trial will begin in earnest which they will go to someone to disconcert disquieting statement made that the o. C. A. Will be offered to medics and also High School Teachers in the in the in the fall and this may be part of the. 3 trials which of course is not appropriate because this will be just a general population as opposed to being administered to the scene they may not be able to say no to because theyre all Government Employees maria if this is politically motivated why why make the announcement now how significant is the moment where are are it is always a good moment when you can say that you are ahead of everybody else and that the fact that president putin himself made the announcement apparently is supposed to sound even weightier in our in more important i would also point out that the press put in mention that his daughter was already vaccinated with this vaccine which is noteworthy because putin usually refrain from mentioning his children hes got 2 adult daughters this done too he did not say which one of the 2 was vaccinated however he only answers questions about his daughters never ventures his own statements and when he cant. Those questions he is very reluctant to talk about however i would say that if he may want to make a statement or credible this will not work this way in russia because people would assume that what is accessible and available to a person as important as the president thought there will never be available to them derek the russians would tell you the same time because these are extraordinary times extraordinary measures will take and were not going to wait for the 1st phase which is what about safety trials the 2nd one we will expend of the 3rd one which is what about efficiency we can combine the phases as we move forward otherwise you wont be able to have a vaccine any time soon you have to wait for at least 23 years. Normally it would take several years to develop vaccines and if we would back to the last pandemic that was that they could use a term by 2060 min to seek a virus pandemic we still dont have a fully laced since vaccine for secretiveness and that snow coming on for almost 4 years now so under normal circumstances it can take a while to develop these things once again with corona virus late late with secret virus we never had to develop a vaccine for humans for that particular group of viruses before secrets as we divide us and the way to viruses that are quite difficult to develop seems against are some good examples what you know fever that have been developed and have been used for for quite some time with good results of the fleet if i this is we are having such gruesome things like dang if you have a for instance among the coronaviruses we some of them havent really had much experience trying to develop a vaccine for humans we have some new vaccines but we never before had a project like this with trying to develop a vaccine for this group of viruses for humans and in the context of such an International Emergency so the pressure theres a lot of pressure all around the world to to accelerate this process and indeed in other countries that had a back seat of course this is also being somewhat excel what it is so we have to be very careful about what the consequences might be and make sure that before we sign anything off its been through all the appropriate Clinical Trials faces and this is why the russians should release the face one in feast truck to truck Clinical Trial data as soon as possible so that scientists around will continue to look at it. Constantine epidemiologists are all over the world from the leading authority in the United States of america dr Antony Funnell cheap the World Health Organization have always cast some doubt about the capability of the russians and the chinese to manufacture a vaccine anytime soon saying that theyre not very transparent about all the data isnt this something that could further just compromise any attempt by the russians to project themselves as these saviors of the world well if you look at the history of this for example the polio vaccine was developed our at the same time in the soviet union as it was developed and the Salk Institute trade so theres clearly a president who russians being at the forefront of some of this research that having been said during the last 30 years after the collapse of the soviet union russia clearly lost much of the scullery including the man which yes does complicate the development maria when you bring the well to this new narrative which was which resemble what happened in the fiftys and the sixtys during the. Cold war isnt this something that could just undermine any chances in the near future to find a vaccine because everything becomes very political and every world leader is desperate to be shown as the one whos country has has found the the vaccine. Well im not sure about everywhere in about everywhere this research being politicized. The russian reaction to or incredulity is show and by world experts was that they are unhappy about competition from russia making it even more politicized and i think the it the only way to make it less political in more credit all is to actually present to the world all the results that russia has received so far actually as i hear it from some of the experts in russia was that what has been made so far. In terms of the back scene is good enough for excellent publications in scientific magazines in scientific journals not for Political Announcement nor for a broad public announcement that we are ready to vaccinate and why was it that instead of publishing and making themselves famous and congratulated russian scientists offered their result for political use is anybodys guess lets let lets get into the very heart of this whole debate about when a vaccine can be produced delic theres been no 165 vaccines developed in different parts of the world a so far the most trusted the one by Oxford University shows that it can stimulate the immune system the other one in the United States of america shows that the patients has triggered an immune response among the patients isnt this something that the bus shows them serve called also achieved if many many many laboratories all over the world have which vets benchmark. Yes what we would expect at the very least that come of the face true travel would be that the subjects that had received the vaccine as opposed to the placebo would be generating antibodies against school that 95 assume that these would be ideally neutralizing antibodies meaning antibodies that in other border to can be used to deactivate the virus and render it nor infectious so the implication of of finding places and utilizing antibodies in a volunteer is that that volunteer would be immune to the to that infection at least for a while of course it doesnt actually prove that they would be route resistant to infection in a natural setting because we dont know whether the presence of huge rising antibodies award would be enough and that sort of thing can only really be determined by the face 3 Clinical Trial where we vaccinate some volunteers for the vaccine and receive a placebo and then then we let them go about their general business and after often after several months they become back and we effectively how many have have suffered from an infection and the statisticians get what determining whether the virus. The vaccine is statistically significantly protective and that that hasnt been achieved yet in any particular vaccine trial at the moment the best that weve got is that some vaccines that come out viz 2 with demonstrable neutralizing antibody so thats thats sort of inferential evidence that might be protective but its not proof ok constantine i mean theres a divide in even among the experts in russia itself they got Malaria Institute credited by putting for putting together the vaccine has been one of the last institutes to step in worldwide when it comes to launching the research and then starting the the trials and suddenly they say that they have managed to. Do. So fast track and get to this point i mean as a scientist what is your concern about the announcement that was made about about the vaccine in russia 1st of all i would like to say that truth to be told there certainly are reports of these reports and russian so this is basically what derek say in cancer in one very concept and the report that has been presented certainly shows that that is nearly in the middle and tears or have been subjected to explanation at stage one of these 2 so this milestone certainly has been reached in terms of your question about the going to reinstitute being you know being coming in late and all of a sudden coming to the whole crown so at least the official story is d that they did develop a much earlier look simple nurse which is coronavirus founded actually in saudi arabia and but thats not as such a big endemic problem its a local think and are in fact what they have been doing is essentially are just substituting a piece of the merce gene mercenaries she called a coded gene in the already existing platform at that scene from in that certainly much easier thing to do so they claim they started doing their work as early as january when the 1st gentleman sequences call it became available maria what happens next in russia do you think that they will have against the backdrop of the skepticism that has been expressed all over the world they would have to give it more time see the trot phase 3 look into the results and then move forward with. Mass producing the vaccine well of course it is very difficult to tell im not sure how russia has received the kind of reaction it expected that instead of congratulations and maybe i dont know envied c l a c thats russia it turned out to be ahead of everybody else what russia is getting these days these since the announcement is a lot of incredulity and a lot of confusion and doubts and i would also consider how this will effect the perception of russians themselves there is enough skepticism as applies to immunization in russia for instance last year almost 60 percent of people said they were not going to get the x. Unaided against flu and in general 23 percent of the russian population believe that the extra nations in general are useless and 11 percent believe that they are harmful and i wonder what will happen to this perception now when so doubts and suspicion and. Confusion has spread around people in urban centers and to be even more skeptical in russia and this is where there are of course high concentrations of people in the a likelihood of infection is the highest you know so i wonder if these people now will feel even. More reluctant to get immunized derek for our viewers who are waiting to see how desperate it praying for the day when the vaccine would be massively produced which is safe and efficient so are the community the Scientific Community of it a 3 approaches this is what people are doing of the laboratories 1st of all the taking the main street of the virus to disable it and they use it for the trial some use the sessions of the genetic. Code into a harmless virus and then to try it the 3rd one is when you take some or all pieces of the d. N. A. And the r. N. A. And i assume that the World Health Organization is scrutinizing 6 main trials which are underway hoping that one of them will hit the benchmark how much time infrastructure. This will take. Well to get to the end of a face 3 trial under normal circumstances would would require a couple of years and then there would need to be further trials beyond that determine what what the really the really really or say to face facts he might be but to get given the level of political pressure of the world in the sense that this is a is a global emergency it is likely that any vaccine that can be reasonably protective even if its not completely protected any vaccine that gates through a feast a Clinical Trial ensures that it does reduce the rate of infection in the vaccinated will probably get the go ahead for a way to rule and thats simply because politicians everywhere feel that the Economic Impacts of covert as well as many who once and a solution once had have been so enormous that if we can find a quick way out of this crisis by mass vaccination and that thats what you know what theyll go for the problem with that face 3 trials under current circumstances though is that quite a lot of the world is still on time locked on boat partial or complete lockdown and most places are observing social distancing the cancer these are conditions we are the transmission of viruses b. P. Did by by other actions that team a societal level so when when were assessing the evidence for a feast you try trying to decide whether the facts he is protected from nor would we have some difficulty determining whether there was those results are due to the vaccine or to Something Else thats happening in society like a walk or like a wedding of masks and social distancing so and so that makes interpret seem obvious 3 results extremely difficult and that thats the last thing we need such an exact races constantly and this is why we need you to explain this more to all of our viewers which is that people are talking about phase 3 and then phase 3 this is where you give the vaccine to thousands of people across different. Groups backgrounds and and age groups and then you wait and see how many become infected compared with the volunteers who were given a placebo the f. D. A. For example says its all or when 50 percent of those who were given the. Vaccine are protected that we can and consider the vaccine to be effective and efficient but of the same time we have to wait and see for any side effects that the russians decided to just move forward and say you know what we have the vaccine when face 3 is the most critical phase at all well again i think its important to actually read what has been announced and it has been in our stock the case 3 trials because rushing back scene and starting well today the next day after the announce are started out trying to defend them but one idea is to register vaccine is an important step to start producing it including the production for the 3 trials because its not just the formulation of the scene but even the site where that seems to be produced that needs to be registered and proved so in a way what the russians do you can consider this you should try to be sympathetic as trying to get a head start in this game where they will be conducting things through trials in parallel to amassing the production lines necessary should the trials be successful to produce more like a set of the dixon is not to be offered to general public until some time in 2 weeks when you run. It in germany i really appreciate your insights unfortunately were running out of time but this is a story that will definitely continue to visit in the near future this is a pandemic that has shaped the lives of people all over the world and they are definitely waiting to see when the vaccine will be approved derek governor constantin civilian of maria lipman i appreciate your time. Thank you for watching you can see the program again any time by visiting our website c. N. N. Dot com for further discussion go to our Facebook Page thats facebook dot com for was last ha inside story you can also join the conversation on twitter and it is a j its a story for me hashem the entire team here in the house i for nothing the. Last. In 2008. 0 documented a groundbreaking skiing. Preparing some of indias poorest children for entry into its toughest universities d. We return to see how the students and the scheme and helping change the face of india. Super 30 announcing or. 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