It will be the ability. To covert 19 pandemic force governments worldwide to impose look downs earlier this year. As 1000000 stayed on for months normal life grounds were virtual holds. That meant a major reduction in air and Water Pollution some animals even reclaimed the stolen habitats. But if some countries start to ease emergency restrictions and governments implement plans to rescue their economies many are concerned the Clear Blue Sky wont last forever. How will the post lockdown surging Greenhouse Gas emissions affect the Climate Crisis. This week we connect with one of the loudest voices urging an environmentally friendly Financial Recovery for the world the executive director of the International Energy agency dr fatty parol talks to aljazeera. Executive director of the International Energy agency a fatty barrel thank you for talking to aljazeera thank you. First something we all have in common in this pandemic and im wondering how you cope in lockdown and how the i. A. E. A. This incredibly important as crucial world body on energy dealt with the difficulties of lock down when the world oil markets were in complete freefall you are right it was a major challenge for us for 2 reasons on one hand we had to make sure that stuff members of the verge far to be non to express and express off to a year are safe and sound sick and we had an additional responsibility to understand the impact of virus on the oil markets and marriage markets and more and more to do and we basically almost 100 per cent from all right and the coronavirus in your view has presented this opportunity and in the view of many other people to change the course of the way we live but you say that time is limited tell us more about that. Of course the true cornell virus. We learn to live in different conditions in a different context one of time is of course. From home. Using different methods searches the. Video made things made things go to meetings and other ways to meet people around the verdict but this is important. Different color and different taste of life it larch our. Eyes and javi a look at. Having said that. I dont believe there dad will be a major changes to harveys use energy in the next years to come if to me recovers strongly and if to governments do not take serious measures to add this our challenge just such as Climate Change you said in fact that we have just until the end of the year to prevent a carbon rebound the rebound in emissions yes i mean. Look at. The history i mean just the great financial crisis we have seen that after a year 2008. Global emissions is it is out of a comic don turned declarant buck to be the economic recovery of the next year 2010 day increased substantially it was the largest increase in the history and then well look at the 20 to 20 vs see that the again a missions are declining very sharply if you have never seen since the 2nd vote for but to be to economic recovery david again very strongly and even lose our chances to take the challenge of Climate Change and what we can do is why i said to 6 months because of the full of ink many governments and divert. Are preparing a socalled stimulus packages recovery if efficacious and they are runs in a generation in scale and what kind of economic policies and as you put the seas we benefit from those specker just be critical to determine the future of our and i just checked and that off Climate Change the problem is mr berrill that 6 months doesnt seem well it isnt a long time in any shape or form is it and were already seeing a rebound of emissions we look at some figures emissions plunged by a global average of 17 percent in april but theyve since its back to within 5 percent of of last years levels and according to Bloomberg NewEnergy Finance more than 100. 00 trillion dollars worldwide thats 509000000000. 00 is being pulled back into carbon related industries. Yes. Are seeing it to governments are not putting the did recover the packages to get up some of them have already been put on the table but huge amount is going to come about edition of 10 trillion in the next 6 months and what kind of Energy Policies they include will determine our future i also seed it to Renewable Energies solar wind getting a lot of support for example the European Union came up with a major recover to pick each and total per cent or almost 2 trillion u. S. Dollars are there did a catered to Clean Energy Sources so i am not mystic but it is it is an. Intelligent Energy Agency brought forth to ministers and on the verge because governments together hardly cant accelerate the clean and adjutants issues to be discussed a topic and i see a. Very strong momentum in the direction of. Stations right there is there is momentum for sure but theres also amendment in the opposite direction your own. Shows that by the end of may the amount invested in coal fired power plants thats the dirtiest fossil fuel energy in asia has accelerated compared with last year. It is completely true in asia and the event i say asia for here to be a bit more specific for example china. Are seeing a coal fired power plants are enjoying it this 4 to 56 months of significant support but we even see video not the support continue through our. Very talk about the Climate Change of course all the fuses oil gas coal theyre all important elements to focus on but to make everybody to understand the problem if we have to focus on. Fuel to understand the order of magnitude of the challenge it is coal coal is the major issue here and unfortunately it is not only of luck to be a video or not he will beat new coal plants the existing coal plants we have today if they continue throughout their normal Economic Life to go on to 2 or 2 more years we have no chance whatsoever to reach our climate cause so we have to objectively. Lets we are going to be new should be. Sustainable and about the fairly but the sick and how we deal with the existing. Infrastructure coal plants are instant plants. Plants and others so we have 2 jobs at the same time to deal with if you are serious to this to Climate Change when you say that colgan signal are important elements of the dealing with the Climate Crisis that you mean they all still needed as we made the transition to becoming called in 0 by company by 2050. So in terms of. Oil and. Gas if anybody thinks that tomorrow weve not need oil anymore in the more they are in a dream worked we even need oil and gas years to come but they are share in the Global Energy mix. Be declining because divert more in the direction of electrification electricity and it is very important that the electricity conference in addition to renewables some people talking about nuclear and there are some new technologies. Knocking on the door such as hi there engine in energy or a very important one in my view one of the most critical technologists which is Carbon Capture and storage which is a technology which can use the force a few us oil gets and coal vidot they making emissions which are dangerous for our climate so this particular issues are very important that can help us to use force if use v dot harming the environment but they are still in the early stages of being a part of our analogy markets of course where there are many who would say the technology of carbon Country Storage is something that will only prolong the use of fossil fuels that will encourage the further exploration and getting oil and gas out of the ground so to be honest with you i have no problem with energy and energy can come fuel a or a fuel b. Or for you see my problem is that emissions neji is good missions are bet if you can use energy the dot making the Carbon Emissions are the Greenhouse Gases there is no problem the issue is to find a solution to having carbone free and. And Carbon Capture and storage is one of the solutions and the others are also very important such as hydrogen we should all understand that you started the discussion with the looked on divert we should all understand it was so important to have energy to continue our. 3 lives economic lives social less to elec to misty we were able to communicate. Because could work through picked a Chemical Industry people dont like oil but particularly in dusty we were able to use. The mosques they are coming from picture Chemical Industrial or trucks. Which are run by oil brought food to to the markets very care bit by our food so therefore one has to be realistic on one down to the edges to Climate Change but on the other hand an edge to see that and that is a big think is that something that i subscribe once again analogy is good emissions are bad right i know what i expect you to subscribe to that now at the end of 2000 and why is it just comes down to this is now the end of 2019 most Energy Analysts would have said that petroleum would continue to dominate the Energy Landscape for the rest of the remainder of the 20 twentys do you think thats still the case. I think all will be. Very important part of our energy mix because oil is used used mainly for did transportation sector cars trucks aviation and for ds sectors we do not have an immediate substitute for oil 1st time he measured call coal is used in the Electricity Generation to produce electricity we have substitutes we have nature and yes we have solar me havin to be have nuclear but incomes to transport patients sector today the do not have it. Available technology as of today or tomorrow and maybe today after tomorrow so even use oil for. Years to come but the have to prepare ourselves especially those producing Oil Producing countries prepare ourselves for air transport dishes system which is run by electricity it is that complicated today we have some cars but the trucks buses aviation still run by oil it is not today but it is coming in the future so the countries in middle east or america us or asia whose economies are exclusively relying on oil and gas david news need to diversify their economies for the day that oil may not be a major part of the energy mix it is not today but it is under horizon you talk about the road transport sector but of course we can listen to what youre saying that the electric car market is growing exponentially. It is growing very strongly it still. Challenges in terms of cost in terms of infrastructure in terms of the mileage you can drive a car but these. Overcome more and more in the next years to come here the Key Countries china health of to electric cars in developed today are in china are going to have all the other countries put together if china continues its policies to subsidize the electric cars mean even to see the costs of electric cars really come down and it should be more affordable in china and. But when i look at the future in terms of the private cars i see a growing share of addicted cars divert china is important europe is important and the especially some countries in the americas are important how we reached peak oil do you think. I do not think. So many people are in no value come from many people after the. Corner virus it is some of the infect the years of the Major Oil Companies the villain never come back to the oil demand level of a gate to be hit before the corner virus i dont think so so very few from home today look at it on the verge it is on the time percent of the Global Labor Force and the. I do not think that the this changing the lifestyle the xoom made things and this and that. Be a reason why the oil demand to be not go back again if the government polices do not change the economic recovery. Go back. Before and maybe beyond that the question is. Did you determine in question is that the changing of to behavior of the people the determinant question is then and the ha fust global economy. Rebound i believe if there are no major changes in the Government Policies for example push for electric cars i would expect it to go back to the 100000000 but a spare day which was the case just before the corner virus and maybe beyond that how do we encourage governments we need to emissions by 2050 at least there is this stimulus that you talked about 9 trillion dollars is out there but how much of that money be spent how do we encourage companies to spend it in the right way to get to the climate destination i meant today. Governments are very ever they are the day 1st and. For most people here patience is a bond of the economies and creating jobs and what we have done together with the i. M. F. We have prepared as such they nibble the Recovery Plan our year and i. M. F. Together focusing on the next 3 years rich Energy Policies governments need to focus in order to see india economies create jobs and make sure that the missions into decline there are 3 major points shes one of. Improving efficiency especially in the buildings. Improvement then a vision of the buildings. Private buildings public buildings mean that they create a lot of jobs this is a job creating machine sickened Renewables Solar and wind is a very important day also boost the economy create jobs and turn down finally modernisation digitalisation off the electricity greets to the 3 off them. Together create jobs boost the economy and it does same time bring to emissions stuff so even the governments who do not put the Climate Change is a top priority in my view in view of the i. M. F. In is to push just. Policies just to create jobs and just to see the economy is growing but we do need leadership by example that we in the is what you all say even feasible when the man whos in control of the Worlds Largest economy thats donald trump that decides where the money goes there and we all know that hes the king supporter of fossil fuel and beautiful clean coal as he would put it. Leadership is extremely important and showing a Clear Pathway for the governments to verdict that it is that isnt 9th of july we brought the minister off is sick it up and our job for not just its bridges in mexico china india japan all of them together and discuss how he can extend it to create an agitator on stations and have this us to nibble. Recovery economic recovery via talk United States are you know it do yes. Policies in terms of Climate Change are different than for example debt off a unified many other countries but very you look at the numbers 20192020 largest decline in big global emissions as a country came from the not to states mainly as a result of nature of gas replacing coal cold again and also growth of solar energy in the United States so Market Dynamics technological dynamics innovation new not to states is very very strong right now you referred to this combination of fuels that we need and youve already said that nuclear is a key component of the a lot of people who disagree with this 3 issues is the danger that the cost and then theres the waste problem but you still think that nuclear is a very important part of the whole solution yes a Nuclear Power generates electricity we docked in interruption and we docked any a mission but currently building in new. Is it because Nuclear Power plants are costly. Its true so deaf or it is being either by a state company such as divans in a china or russia but to build it in a free market is headed difficult but build it it generates 4050 years just push the button and it generates electricity the dot it emissions. To you i live in paris in france about 3 fourths of the electricity comes from Nuclear Power then it cheap electricity you pay at home and france has one of the lowest carbon free carbon footprint. Or of course to build a Nuclear Power plant or not is depending on the governments or the population if they dont like it of course one never should push them but Nuclear Power progress electricity we made a lot of cost. Votes beat them and it did save the dr a mission from the worlds 2nd Largest Nuclear use a bit as you know i think its a plan to reduce its reliance on germany is pulling out of nuclear after fukushima the whole push behind you cure is dwindling. Different countries have a different position here in france there is a strong debate about the future of nuclear you are right in germany and when the 2 other countries in europe are facing got nuclear there is a china is building one off the other. Russia some countries in the middle east emirates is just. Building one in the United States about 20 per cent of the electricity comes from Nuclear Power a lot youve got to states. They are going to decide to be very important in my my issue is for example in europe that i am a box for talk to electricity comes from Nuclear Power if the nuclear. If we dont beat it in Nuclear Power plus the looks of the current position now reach fuz view are good to. Dick is a key question in some countries we have seen nuclear out but coal was in it to fill the gap which once again increases the. Carbon dioxide emissions right move you have to plan this very carefully again my problem is not the energy to said i did it and my problem is afford to be a talk to an i. G. And no emissions these are all very difficult issues to wrangle with and they finally majlis you mr barrel youre at the helm of the i. A. E. A. The Pivotal Moment in the human story you have a huge amount of responsibility how does the responsibility feel how do you where and bear that responsibility. Our responsibility is looking at the end tire Global Energy markets work in which all the governments. And of course the. Biggest possibility but 80 percent of the admissions causing Climate Change conference sector we have to fix the problem and i just checked in order to end this our climate challenge and fight the battle executive director of the International Energy agency thank you for talking to aljazeera. Thank you very much. And. 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