The path to democracy still now look if youre watching this on you tube you see that box over there yet right there that is the live youtube chat help me out get in the conversation we have a producer in there thats going to get your comments or questions to me and im going to try to get them in the show now let me catch you up on whats been happening in sudan were just over a year from omar bashir is government being toppled the new government set a goal of elections in 2022 years thats what everyones watching some of the problems as they were then lines along the way like establishing a Legislative Council but they arent even missed those deadlines so concerns are rising particularly as the economy seems to be in dire shape which shortages of food fuel electricity and inflation on the rise now new protests hit the streets just at the end of june take a look at those here. A lot and then all the demands we want to filter out the formation of a Legislative Council that can see fights over the governments activities the 2nd demand is the cheapens of comprehensive and just peace and the 3rd is a civil state what about it. When your 3rd demand is a civil state its a sign there may be trouble theres been a whole set of laws that came out in the last week or cell that seem to liberalize things but other laws were cracking down and there have been conservative protests since then check out of his conservative voice is not everyones happy about the new laws. So if i let him know what i would rather have we wont allow bars to reopen we want to allow prostitution again this people is a muslim people and this is the voice of the people or ive been to one of the sudan i guess in sudan men women and children are honest im spiny chair we wont allow any interference in islam we wont allow any distortion of the laws of islam and today it is our duty to talk to the streets until the government falls. And of course these challenges fall on the desk of Prime Minister abdullah dr heres what he had to say about it i think we have too many speculations of all people but if you saw the pictures from this it lucian. Alliance well the economic reform program. You know so well. Politics has to be aligned is not an easy job you are working on that getting it right in the Peace Process and this thing that it is. But also like this of the wall as if we do not have enough challenges in a lot of lives we would have to have discovered in 1000. And what seems to be the most recent news here is that omar bashir may actually face a new set of trials beginning as early as this week of course hes already been convicted once of corruption but this trial will be about the coup which he led in 1989 now to discuss all this and more were joined by an exciting panel of guests all from khartoum im going to ask them to introduce themselves but im going to begin with Al Jazeera English his own more going to have a hey how are you. Looks like there might be a delay there or her pictures frozen so were going to move on collude can you introduce yourself and tell us why youre here oh yes i a managing director of a think tank care team and we set up to help with the transition so despite the end government you know its been able to kind of manage its way its very short test function so its. Perfect thanks hey have a i just introduced it was Al Jazeera English is own and as you might there was a pause in the video and you can you tell us just a bit about where you are what youve been up to. While im in a hot zone to catholics and ive been covering a series. The latest with the developments and social developments are happening here in spanish and one of them obviously is the latest the 4 forms of the case around its great being here but were joined by one further guess which is cob but i think were having some issues with his signal to moment so ill bring him in once we get a good signal from him and have him introduce themselves to you lets begin with some of those written legal reforms you were just talking about there have a lets start with the ones that are affecting the women in sudan is this a win for women. Well ive spoken to a lot of women at heart this and one thing i want to say to the social media reaction i relent and man i also dont feel like yes this is a few steps towards what they want some people need one that has been awesome for but the fact that you know s. G. I. Has now been banned is something that they celebrate and the fact that women mother is going to travel with their kids without the permission of the father or rather without the presence of a father because its in just a matter crowning the costs a woman cannot travel with her own son regardless of the peace and without the father being there with him giving his own personal approval and signing off on the site that yes the mother from power was even going to ask for and you know one of the main requirements for having an identity or an official identity having a nationality id and 40 candles out like the face of the father now they can do that selfworth and thats thats a big step its one of if im asking for and there are people who lost their children because they couldnt travel with their children if theyre Sick Children because the father has been getting off especially separated or divorced parents that its been very complicated and there were times where they have to go to change judges and sometimes it gets front down so for them that is an improvement and thats Something Different often for 4 years. Can i ask you i print some analysts who are skeptical of these laws but theyre kind of all weve got to donors in the west and the bill of fact the privileged classes maybe in khartoum more than they will women across the rest of the country key talk a bit about the. I think taken in the broader political context is another win for the transition domestic connection much capital if you will and signaling a break away from the is the policy of the last 40 years. This does come in response to the Southeast Asian protest that. Wants a kind of more responsive off the level of reform and so you know there are very important gains to be had for example stripping the state Security Operations of the power tool to that effect or kind of everybody criminalizing s. G. M. And the benefits women i would argue benefit the whole of society because its about what kind of like if you want to live in one that. Have some level of injustice to anyone will surely have a knock on effect of this everyone to paraphrase. Most significant so you know apostasy laws which have been weaponized and used against political activists wherever they are in ending you know death of Death Penalty for. Same sex relations as what and to be most affected by that which areas. People such as these people speak to have very few social defenses and public flogging of the kind of thing that takes place when the Morality Police of the judge jury and executioner and i think limiting the safety own power to be able to oppress people in that way the very important signal for the people of sudan that there is a break away from the oppressive Political Climate of the process. Because we have to remember that syria was both in 9360 of the full. Power so this is a longstanding issues only now something to be counted. Tavor you dont hear me. Greene i want to bring you into a conversation q 1st begin because you mr round of bitter duction is by letting the audience know who you are weve talked about the new set of laws and we talk specifically about the ones affected women and some of the more liberal wising ones but i want to pose to you that not all the laws were quite liberalizing the new information law seems to be trying to crack down on maybe journalists to sit can you speak to that place. Ok how are not oh oh. Or by saying no laws. They are not parliaments out peoples opinion you know if i thought boy and opposition those out any form somebodys going to. Say that youve got amendments where i mean stick by the midst of justice but thoughtless about you know everybody. In the absence of. Inviting all the. Laws and then come up with a condition. To be something that happened. About the laws i have. To hear about for a. Lot of online muslims so its all right for moms him to go drink alcohol but theres a problem here because this was just going on since then weve been sufficient devotions of us i took the document as it mentioned that the rights and your decision are about because with our present citizenship without this and we mention bears on various all religion is no consideration of course she answered that now. This mystic is not a sufficient book until now. About the. Women when you say that you know i think that there is not what he said at this knowledge is that if you sent me all parliaments and you think that all are sharing agreement that was signed in the military and the protest movement before it if we can and change coalition needed very clear that in the absence of a parliament because we months after the start of the transition period now in the absence of a parliament the council of ministers and the Supreme Council together make a parliaments and someone is appointed and i think in saying that they it was a parliament there was an arm and maybe its not clear representative because there are most of all societies there but it does fairly make up the parliament for the time being until one is actually flown which will be more offensive since youre with me on that one and i want all. Its theres also the fact that when the serial bus came in in 1080 sweet they were done by president ial decree by definition married with dictator at the time and we didnt you know cries of lack of protocol that time doesnt call things but its those cultures now who are crying foul because the laws are not in accordance with their wishes but whats with meaning is that the number of people that are in favor of the goals much more than the numbers who have come out this week or so to to criticize. What about people doing Good Journalism what about the new information. It is a concern josh you know especially for me and the journalists i think the fact that you know anything that you say or write even on social media which is your personal thing it doesnt necessarily after like the views of the media that you were where you can be you can be outright so that you can be persecuted for that and i think that kind of a fact sweden wants each other a question as a journalist whether its accepts what its every day you know people on the streets now when they see it in a very careful about i dont think that was what was intended if you look at the broader there are forms of as a whole the fact that you know the platform of a few steps forward i dont think the intention was of trying to stifle less freedom but these are going to be the side effects of having even on opening the ways for people to to to to to be able to say to you know to narrow down what they want to stay in it because i will if im an ordinary person has to be very careful about what. Theyre there for life or some place that being said you know it may be and which its quite down on you as they report it or on false information weve seen over the posse at once whether its on you know like political reforms are happening whether its on you know the pandemic or on a virus people will say misinformation so maybe the goal was to try to control that but then its like a double edged sword where youre going to have you know you control political false information that is flowing but you also settling on press freedom or rather freedom of expression because people will be able to express it easily even though weve seen it just in the last few days the military coming out and saying we are going to be a crime journalist and accept us for what they say even there also have to come from so this is a side effect of that long. It were seeing some skepticism of the military in our you tube chat right now this is from Iskander Gabriel the military are still in power and using the protests as an excuse to wriggle elections i want to bring in a video comment from someone in our community this is a big who is a professor at the university of nottingham and we hear that. Incidentally the question of what needs to be put in place in order to the station. By a number of. Measures one civilian oversight and increase in civilian pretending all over the military knowing that the military is the fundamental stumbling block to the transition 2nd the importance to the public is the military and the strange them a trip back to the barracks in the thirtys also to decrease the economic footprint of the militia within the National Economy and also ensuring that to strengthen the constitution rule of law and strengthen Civil Liberties broaden and. Human rights. So i think everyone is looking at that power sharing agreement that you were talking about him between the military and Civil Authority im wondering how is the balance of power there i know that in the protest in on june 30th they were saying that the military was in part it in charge of far too much to include some day to day Economic Issues that the military perhaps should be involved in. Yes indeed so the partial requirements that is going to be the 1000000000 will that Transitional Government which is basically the sovereign found so we test 6 civilians and 5 minutes for every transaction that is 39 months since you want to be led by the military its in by the civilians the 1st thing you want it and its very now and then 11. 00 that is supposed to be in charge of the to the players is the executive by harnessing often the hutto whos a civilian and its also some of the majors with the exception obviously of the head of all the sort of minister of interior who was obviously from the police and that the minister of defense was the chief of the military salute technically speaking at least on paper theyre the also supposed to be in charge the reason why we saw protests offensive to them is the fact that people feel like the military some talk because they see that you know the head of the economic Emergency Economic Committee its been headed by you know the deputy of the Sovereign Council is a military hes the head of our military force in iraq its for forces in iraq and undergo so the fact that hes in charge of of the body that is dealing with the current economic crisis inflation of 140 percent theyre not happy about it that is the thing that civilians should be the one for the meeting this one piece outsider right right right now going on between a corpse and the government the Prime Minister when he was appointed and said you know before us all of my transition period is to bring peace but in general terms i dont know again as the who is leading that committee whos on his board and on forward without him the members of the Supreme Council and its very our own offensive in this discussion between now and the armed groups and and the present government so people are seeing that you know will all be government and growing economy is going to ease the military is right now taking the lead and theyre not. Going to get in our you tube audience again here clear them and toss this question to us or someone with my question for the panel is why do new ministers making these amendments while they were voted in by the people yet i think this is a question that khatami to agree with the sentiment of can you respond to the clin. Well i think i think its ok. I think i think the issue is that when people on happy with the congress or government they question differently when they are happy with what its doing they had more so theres a 7 element supply of that but i think this. Document made it very clear last year this government was going to have the full until such time as a government could be elected and its role as a childish in the government is to put in place you know the exact wishes of the people what child thing but thats where their mandate comes from you know historically we havent had much luck with transitions that had even less luck with democrats democratic elections so you know neither of those is a guarantee that everyone will get what they want they mean is actually a good there i dont know and i think that the 2 model that there was some level of you know democratic will be played out rather than one group being targeted. Because the democratic will were seeing happening here. Its not democratic but i think. Its loving the ground the the rights of the minority be done im still blah blah blah d all right all international. Agreement was on 5 on. I think its its so good the its good amendments and let me go back again to the freedom of expression restriction about the cyber crimes though actually i think im a legal rights activist i thought low and we. Knew that its the same 2007 lol they have just increased the punishment period is out of it and crimes. You know that knowledge is a continuous evolution and cycle times are instant price action was it to. Follow that incremental Lies International down while there was international down before just one year and. A loss of sudan by. By 45000000000 dollars paraguay besides that a lot is going to realizing this information and in times in formation and see on the other side says this or that debates are right like this i see you on one of my. Thats on to the forum its on this information at this information you should provide the information and make it available for all so we should make me your cyber crime slow build. The make it up to date and the omega 3 dont separate the freedom of its a version of a little more. So weve got about 5 minutes in the show letter couple big topics i want to move on to cope and my team is hitting sudan just like its hitting everywhere else and its really exacerbating some of the Economic Situation is there the war in the i. M. F. Has a special fund set up to help countries with their coded responses to 50000000000. 00 fund but as i understand it today and cannot access that money because theyre still listed by the United States state department as a state sponsor of terrorism tell your understanding of it whats the impact of that how important is that. Well 1st of all like you said yes theres no organic or the virus has its event are. There or d our actions are the warning from success that its raising providing that whats that i mean people who are all the contagious diseases the question isnt quite to get success at their homes that are going down well its important to show up and seeing people and youve seen a rise in the number. Of art and seeing that inflation is rising 140 percent before the corner virus it was around 1000. 00 or so and so on sudan has actually said it very clearly that they are in need of thats help and seen a Donor Conference on the scene of the war confiscating to get a full body or also since they were all programs launched by the un system governments weve seen them in the talks with the. Nets and once very un and the world bank to get great access to grass now the issue of the sanctions is affecting the country that its in but we also see this parliament flying innocent and. Again with the construction that they have and they since last but why this is and so thats also as you know if i dont support or grand plans its like its families that want to incomes let me shift that were seeing now sealing the current on the ground in the old are 1st of all so thats what was it for us we support the fact that it was all 41. 00 its all the money and now all of us is assistance for what its actually 43000000 and one out of every 4 is actually in some on the side of its a little farther its install is facing some challenges and it does need a from the world bank and international to fund what theyve been trying to do that will somebody who thinks that. Theyre going to be on track to meet the election deadline 2022 what are we 2 years away from that. Well yes lord be a 3rd of the way and those signs are not encouraging that that that that but that the line that might be very you know achievable i posit that childish and should be extended but of course there are many political. You know parties and misspeaks that would have would take issue with that the key is now to maximise i suppose while we dont know how long the transition would last or to maximize on the gains that we can make in the short period of time and in order to do that the government needs people to. Behave book and sort of these changes legal changes in to ensure the governing system of the country so that people actually all over the country will be able to feel the changes that have been made. To talk about a minute left here and one talks this year if they do not make the deadline of elections in 2022 are they at risk of being this kind of eritrean model of transition forever. If weve lost a top heavy did you get i always find bell or collude did you hear the question go for. I mean saddam has uptimes this in since independence and to say it just has the full sold us of governance if you will and so i think what we need to do with how mobile will political and economic you know policies that are able to move away from sudan away from this is here to perpetual childish. Action set you know build a state previous repetition so i think were on the right track on the right track im going to bring the you tube audience in here for the final word this is from doing the delegate says the reforms chart a path to relative secularism open the country to foreigners it also changes the perception of sudan in the International Stage so everyone is really looking on that stage as to what happened in the day and will they make the elections in 2022 a really want to take my guess galoot and especially have a morgan from dr english being with us today from khartoum and thank you for joining us here in that interview to live chat well see you next time. Territorial social and ethnic divisions. France has seen some of the biggest recent protests of the black lives matter. Aljazeera welcomes to some of its least privileged communities. Where treatment by the police is still a contentious issue. Parents are divided city on aljazeera. 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