Hostilities in yemen we listen this is the moment to stop all the 30 action this is the moment to concentrate on fighting everybody we meet with global news makers and talk about the stories that matter on the ground 0. Hi anthony ok watching the streaming home edition cause i dont need to tell you the current of the list pandemic study lohan china but now china is just getting out for more of its lockdown mandates and his fascination see what looked out real life lessons we can learn as the rest of us are coming out of those staying at home mandates how does china going to lead the way that is akhil the station for today if you and i you cheap chat hello welcome nice to see if you have a question you have a comment you have stories to share and go ahead drop them in the chat and hopefully bring them into the stream and bring you an introduce you to address how in katrina tell everybody he. Hi everyone im katrina year i am the aljazeera correspondent in china travel around china im based here in beijing and ive lived in beijing for about 7 years now and im originally from new york australia. Great to have a katrina in the stream hello ya too great to have you tell everybody who while what. I am the actual americans are chair of Human Rights Watch i research and write about rights issues in china in york city right now and your accent or iris. Thanks for coming to the stream freesheet it and to see you have got so many stories i know tell everybody who you are welcome to the street. Show. On my knees. Is a mission technologist signs a sing along and a real evening in london and d over 7 years. In china these. Humanitarians. Days before the. Once easy and. The transitions are now syrian. And the muses are. Really military put in your room and stories but let me start as all of Katrina Katrina what is different in your life today that you never would have imagined would be the norm for you now that china is beginning to get out of these who are down mandates whats your life like now. Well every day in china now you have to go out and have a mask on if you dont have a mask on you feel naked its a real exposed you know that somethings wrong you have to have a mask everywhere you go and you expect to have your temperature take taken. Sometimes by people who are very serious about it sometimes or people who are not too serious about it but you have to have it take and you have to put your details down and in some sort of fall through a recent form of the removal for an app or when you go to a restaurant when you go to a cafe when going to mall and i think that suggests that if something does happen and theres a case and that person went to that area they know who else was there and they can contact traced everyone as well every time i have a guest. Or a for anything and they have to register i have to assure authorities can a barcode sure is authorities where in the last 2 weeks. And people get very nervous if they can see from this spot heard if ive left beijing city. They want to know where i am where i came from how they done why quarantine and the crime of virus basically. To see if you who had can you move around freely now health. Yes of course. We had we were allowed to move in on the neckwear over 2 to 3 months ago i was at that time didnt d they lock down the whole d not so we do see bigots which means that we cannot we should we couldnt go out of the city by that and. Since then we care in. d the city but of course we d need to check over but its a regime uncensored fire and. You know her true history and also on the. Traffic lights and a 2nd trainer just mentioned. By you know were just so terrible we can just just s. No more when in fact its more or im going out of school d d to reason my grandparents here rests easy. Of course not as to who may promise us not who i see so. This. Kind of is a thing of our own but also libyans and know us being over 100 and us navy and attorneys and so i think it could be a very different. Experience. What does it feel like to just be atic go out and about go and see your elderly relatives. In other parts of the world were told you cant go and see our grandparents who are mothers who are fathers because we may actually be a cause of them getting covered 19 but there you are planning planning a trip to see a relative what does it feel like. Oh. Its a very. Its very challenging to say that because we just made it easy answer so i think. Useful as an intermediary of the u. S. In front of the you tube. Batch of people just to news and any or any ways i care ill kind of bring our holy messages back im still worried about our you know were beginning at and were it was in in meaning in a big snow and here is where. We took a very serious and d she said. We sought a worse. Or maybe even more. Then later we understood the saleratus and. All related and there is no anything i mean by issue in fact it is more it is it out. And the police are calling her disease to score goals that its. Kind of her. Lets say afraid of religion that our generation some of the ones you know i mean you have and. Im tryna go blasting speakers and i just run a test and really. The size of my parents. For. Me to see let me just be in the absolute not she does i do think how can you describe it to us because it sounds very. Science fiction like so do you really explain what you understand is happening now with people having a coach that is a different color and and we have to go around china which this code and how it helps them how do you understand it from the human rights perspective. You know i think im probably katrina and if you can you know tell us the experience and really experience of using it but to from a human rights perspective i mean your information of where youre being you know who have been youve been in contact was another basic bio match to a mason and they were generates a coat for you that im going in the yellow are for our concern your stats 1st of all. How. How your how your of the color determine is not known to the public so theres no way you can know why you know youre getting a color secondly there is no we wait for you to ups you know there is no mechanism of so if you get a code that you dont see your you should get no you know no channels for you to seek redress so those are the human rights concerns. Let me just bring in you katrina im actually looking at your twitter account here shanghais disneyland reopens its china report 17 new coronavirus cases the most significant take since the end of april despite fears of a 2nd wave of infections entry tickets for today so now in 3 d. When its people wanted to go to shanghai drive and report it through me put it here what story and we got pictures of people with a mouse not running mickey but they were helping what does that tell you about the right set who are right now do they do they just need to play. I think so i think. The analysts that we spoke to about this she said theres just this pent up demand i guess i think people for lunch. 3 months they were at home and you know people in 100 cities i mean as youve just heard they were unable to leave their front doors in some cases or their compounds to serve many days and not only that i mean in places like beijing and shanghai where there was more freedom you didnt have as strict a lockdown but everywhere are all these entertain and then these were closed there was nowhere to socialize there was no way to gather to be with people so i think you know in seeing how what a success this open day this was people are rushing for disneyland i think people are still afraid for sure there are still worried about the 2nd wave of infections that the same time people are just kind of tired as they are around the world they want to go out and live their life again and certainly i mean there is a certain level of trust here in the government and if the government has sanctioned the opening of disneyland of all places then people believe that it must mean that its safe enough to go to disneyland and if thats the case why not especially for parents who have nowhere to bring their children who are especially Young Children who are unable to attend school or anything like that i mean im sure theyre jumping at some opportunity to find a way to entertain their children after such a long time. Couple of questions are unusual on the other for them to katrina but see if you could take us i would love to hear that when will they open the borders katrina was one question that came to us who need change. An ideal is as in the National Borders of china that when yeah yeah ok one of the things i was thinking when youre with your 1st question family how life has changed i mean i guess everyone around the world never thought that we our ability to travel would be ever taken away from us especially im minister alien living in china and i never thought that i would have to think twice about leaving the country because i wouldnt be able to come back as it is now foreigners are still denied entry into china because of the fear of imported cases even though or 90 percent of imported cases are near now all of them now are foreign nationals coming back into china and their server many foreigners are there was just a local magazine the year in beijing who did just a really rough straw poll of people expats usually in beijing and one 3rd of them said that they were stuck outside the country and so weve heard rumors that. The government is discussing opening the borders up to foreigners in july now thats occurred just a room and i expect that that will depend on a variety of things whether there is in fact a 2nd wave of infections what happens around the world as well. To see im going to bring you in here because you are arriving who had 2 days before lockdown unbelievable timing when you have family back in again of course where they are going to be when winking again. Or. Its a very challenges. To those people that are. Already knew the situation was a very dangerous because as you know new ration things are getting very difficult i read of january so i kind of made it there. If things went really was really bad so i had to be was a parents and there where did my role model mom wife she still really really only as your wife states are claiming youre coming out of a membership should anyone try yeah. It isnt like actually im probably already. Yeah her i have to repeat the 1st time of coming back because today is. Coming back again i just rebuilt it. Better and then. This is raising cookies in there and the 1st time hes in it. Its just very literal i dont have any choices i am a send out a situation you or has kind of control and a red herring. And a means where about the brain not experience but what about their lives and also i need to go back to work. And yeah theres a very difficult it. Is completely to save trouble rather but i should. And at a. Time i think maybe if we excuse that a visual trip to see the i didnt go in its really employ the idea of the economy and thats been the concern not just to china but countries around the world who look down now the opening up katrina i know as a resilient. A Small Business owner in beijing and this is what he told you about now that the businesses are open lets take a look at that coming and that that little interview he did with him. Empty chairs at empty tables this beijing restaurant once served 200. 00 customers every day but because of the coronavirus pandemic its now struggling to survive on a joe towel was forced to close the u. S. Themed diner for almost 3 months you know a 1000000 here. There is no cash flow if we are open at cash flow is the most important thing for a restaurant we are still paying for the rent and stuff wages plus their accommodation in beijing weve taken a really big hit. How business is doing katrina. Its tough tough times i think many businesses struggling to survive and if they have made in this far the next few months maybe the last few months for them the government is rolling out some targeted measures are theyve made it easier for example for people to get bank laurens theyve also said that theyve put some extensions on peoples repayments or rent payments are they the government here or try as much as possible to encourage businesses to retain stuff because the last thing they want to see is a vast number of people unemployed because that would. Be a risk to social stability or social instability which is the last thing that they want to seize and trying to support these Small Businesses but at the same time sorry many have gone and. You know this Chinese New Year was a ready suppose to be a quiet time and after that people were really relying on this rush of people coming back and now even now i think people are slowly going back to restaurants and things but its. The last few months were basically just too difficult to bear some some Small Businesses especially especially when you consider in beijing there are a lot of Migrant Workers and as we interviewed this Restaurant Owner he doesnt only pay wages he also pays for the food and lodging his stuff as well so theres so many costs and theres not enough people going back out to the restaurants and in the evening people are going back to work but in terms of people going out to have fun at still levels. Something i want to show everybody to see and that is your current team who had on Facebook Page became rizzo somewhere where people can post about this is going to show it right here so this is the idea is a private group nationally after your permission to join it so the idea was this you were posting festival than everybody else was staying so you shared them and information like im seeing reports china is experiencing a 2nd wave everybody is weighing in there with their experiences and then this im finding absolutely fascinating some pictures of things opening up and how that opening up very different late look at this restaurant you know how people are sitting there in. Space here sitting here space here the people are paying for items again these are fascinating pictures maybe the idea of this is what may be coming in other parts around the world to see the any other things that youve seen which is so different post lockdown that you want to warn us about. Yes the post says in. The face of a successful and those of. The previous stories from katrina i still want to mention that about a 2nd wave of a parody in question about 2nd wave coming and. 17 cases so cases not in the case of china law actually yesterday yesterday they were 6 more. Local cases and you cases which means that im saying to normalize the situation to d take the as a part of our daily routine d our out of licenses and the people who need to. Be here and. Then race every time not of course washing hands and the wearing rest of the public transport dense areas and restaurants this caribbean very normal situation in the station and i still want to send out and not a message is among the social distancing is in there that have a very bad saying on. Is not can be easy all the next because even though we can still seek more energy and time results. We see our as samis and the strands will want to show us what i mean sometimes you have to go or are particular kinds of our friends and spend some unnecessary time with and in that case you always have. Where do they say this to get away from them and that i know that is a very super normal in china so. There is on the negative name. Yes q i was just looking at your twitter feed here and one of the things you doing is a. In the human rights issues that coming out of china you have not stopped critiquing the Chinese Government regardless of whether theres a pandemic and not a pandemic im looking here about it talking about Chinese Government unveiled measures requiring septas to extend the same shipment to or from home and abroad you are talking here about this in a phobia that seems to have been in the hearts because of the current virus pandemic how do you continue to do your work when you know that a country is struggling with coming out of lockdown struggling with how do we keep our citizens safe and healthy how do you pick your moments do you need to pick your moments to critique china. Well i mean you know china to extend it has successfully contain the virus but we have to you know know that to china has a very sophisticated censorship system so there are a lot of you know there are successful stories the government has perpetrated but theres also a lot of sufferings and ive been censored that have been repressed you know as are you mr cho humoresque issues i am being in daily contact with people who have lost to their families in the who have suffered terribly so those stories need to be heard to make on innocent time you know in ohio now in a country you know saying that people are you know they want to go to disneyland because there is you know i want to go out however im talking to people or they have experience harassment detention by the police because they wanted to seek redress i speak for their family members dying in the pen to make them do to you know government elections. Coming up so the story to continue to work ive been talking to africans who are so because that want to government you know i am a pro has implemented a policy to forcefully tast africans for the coronavirus regardless whether they had being contact with people who have been affected regardless whether they have traveled outside of china so this is a racist discriminatory policy and people are very upset to there i totally i mean is totally judgment is so i you know i dont i dont think you know its who always say when people are experiencing us abuses they should tell their story and their story should be now. Im going to ask you to do a quick round of questions and says katrina you cant pause just not a long ass a very quick this is a few cheap who see those men in the Chinese Government telling the truth about the existing numbers cases people who died new cases. We were basically short answers we dont know unfortunately we only have one source of figures for coronavirus cases in china and that is the government and of course there is no independent inquiry around these numbers we only know what they give us and we do know that in the last few months the method of counting cases has changed a number of times for example only one counting is internet or they were only. Counting remember when you claim to. Be a drought as much as another question no no no no no no rest meant as well as my says china had the best measures to curb and curtail the spread of covert 19 does this have to do is selfdiscipline of its citizens well whether china had the best or not that thats really up for discussion but definitely there is a different culture in a different system here its an authoritarian system the way people they had they given very little choice and very as yet you mentioned very little opportunity to argue so when theyre told given a directive or a law from the government they basically have no choice but to comply. So i dont know if to culture thats just the system the way it is here im sure there are cases that are im but here you know you got what it larry i mean there is no one to read. You know people would try to. Criticise the government oh cool people who dont believe the government statistics or you can get sacked detained or harassed by the police you know by the government. 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President trumpet noras advice from his top chronic virus task force expert. Im Richelle Carey this is al jazeera live from doha also coming up a caution taken once again in china lockdown measures orientated after a new cluster of infections emerges. Starvation during a pandemic households in south africa are struggling to