So no matter how you take a. 0 were bringing you the news and Current Affairs that matter to you. I am finally actually allow continence train 100 listening to the past few days will be looking at how different functions are now thought to. A loose. Anyways and each a washington hands who are. Down schools not down. Each other very decent of. What gene to against. Was a former student he stood on the street while hes in. Residence. I means. Its a commercial. Greetings from stockholm sweden where life is not under lockdown and im currently at a park which is bustling with families and kids out on a sunday afternoon. There while were not under lockdown its not really true that life is proceeding as normal hours for example since the middle of march ive been working from home and i think that most people are probably taking this seriously and thats been my experience there with exceptions for example my neighbors last weekend decided it would be appropriate to have a multigenerational Birthday Party where there were little kids and grandparents as well you know while i appreciate my liberty and my freedom to move. I wonder if maybe were not making the sacrifices that we needed to make to save lives. And certainly from the numbers. If you can persuade and with other countries in Northern Europe we are doing much worse. Is this a good Long Term Strategy im not sure. And he lives in sweden i know that you have questions as well and the way to the new concerns is to jump into our chat. And you can be part of the straight meet. That youre the incident. Hi ira. And im a reporter at the swedish newspaper afterall and ive been reporting about the coronavirus in the whole war world and in sweden for millions of readers and been answering their questions as well. We look forward to your expertise hello and isa. Hi im helen thank you for having me im a professor of Political Science at Upsala University in sweden where im following this from a political and ethical perspective most for. The japanese and uk and i can see delisted and you our genealogy stooges. Am and my chance to join in epidemiology working at. 230 in stockholm and im also a Science Writer as i also try to explain to people whats going on which means we a part of the world doing tests. Or ladies uncertain to see if im out on. The move looking. This is one of the senses that. This is a many locked up countries the ideal in sweden isnt not easy. Its not exactly. What love is like. In sweden how would you explain what. Well as to say we havent adopted a Strict Lockdown but mention before loafers and to really usually if we do have recommendations and some regulations as well. Were not allowed to to meet more than pretty persons at the same time and there is a ban for example visiting Nursing Homes where the elderly and to sum it up with these recommendations and and rules are of course. The governments and the Public Health agencies way of. Battling the coronavirus and the goal is the same as in other countries as well yes we havent adopted a strict law that one has many of. Its yet good mind to animate and not should not know who the well dont know what is right. Now but i agree its very i think its very important for people around the world are stamberg there are some restrictions in sweden because now people other countries. Starting to talk. Restrictions i think its important to understand. The measures taken swill down our track and that the goal of them missed your. Subjects is a car distancing between people and getting the elderly to flatten the currents and distance. Quite close to what other countries are trying to achieve but will might be trying to achieve it in a different with my recommendations instead of a harsher measurements and. Restrictions why. Do you need to from. Huge sense as the rest of your world. Yeah. There and think there are some politico and lugo there are reasons for this its not very easy to mistreat. People here in sri lanka we are so her history our high trust in the authorities. There are examples for instance when it comes to what in other parts of europe there are people who are very system magnet in their children and people are skeptical who are as Service Oriented last minute and against me as souls in sweden we have noncompulsory attacks nation but still there are 7 percent of all children are fully vaccinated so we had this kind of her culture in trust india or georges and following in direct meant mendacious so i think thats part of the return however to business of course a very special situation or not but it lou not. Which measurements work the best so you know its new ground for everyone so its difficult as point and see whether the his recommendations are enough or not and let me bring you into the conversation to see the noted example to which is rather than under. Explaining what would be able to be back today and inch on the krooman finest alley in the us as its important to know doesnt legally couldnt be a lockdown as seen in other countries within the debate goes on that. In the constitution and then nick says this is an important part of the discussion often gets left out so. Easy a legal team each cannot have a not out was not a coaching think actually you dont need a lot of very sensible. Older has i would say and i think i have. An endless arguments and. Yes sure ed i would say its its a combination of both culture and f. F. Favored interpretation of the constitution. Yeah i can stop there but wanted to Say Something sorry. I wanted to add that there has been some law changes in case the government says a trip to close down schools for example. And we are reminded all the time that if. If they feel that its necessary and there might be more restrictions as closing down schools for example and there has been changes for example that High School Students and University Students arent allowed to earth are in their their education is now understands and theyre doing a lot of. An emotion and arent exactly arent visiting the university essence or. Not snotty comments in the cheap commit section not an ample in this months nothing says stop romanticizing speed is approach i live and i have heard from Health Care Workers not anachronisms and see the masses in essence dont. Respond. The. Thing is. Nobody really. Our if our strategy back so far i think we have to be humble and im not trying to ruin one to size the swedish approach and we definitely see we have higher. Rates compared to our neighboring countries and we have church definitely. Elderly so the strategy. Has been to europe flatten the courage to make sure that the people needing help are is. Capacity of the Health Care System but also protecting the elderly and unfortunately we have not been able to do that so much of the high death rate since we missed explained by this virus actually just 2 Nursing Homes this is a hospital. Last a surgeon to put into the homes the elderly the real target nineteenths you need is not. So. Every they we have a press conference where the Public Health agency and they updated us about. The nearly infected numbers and the new debt and during this press Conference Press conferences they also repeatedly repeatedly say that this as this is a failure and. Many Nursing Homes actually have. The virus in their homes and that many of the deaths are people who are over 70. And all their recommendations are. Very thorough when it comes to people over 70 and like i said before the i think the most strict bound that we. Have gotten during this pandemic is the visiting Nursing Homes that is actually for britain which is one of the few things actually that is there for a bit and now its with. I will bring in just one here its the one we had on. This is the stock hunted reach heard immediately by. Im just wondering what a somebody who is really. Was. Explaining. To you and me even as we must. Oh oh this is a huge question right now in sweden and yes i would say from my point of view that they have avoided using the term herd immunity in fact are a sheaf if you danial its demian its. Said that he wanted to avoid the term because he he said that that would imply that we came up against this virus so at one point he actually said that they are not using that term and also. Consistently not using that term but if you look at the actions and the consequences of their actions. The transmission is allowed and they have also claimed that they want to have a certain degree of transmission to or as they say the side effect would be a kind of herd immunity and the figures ive seen and that they floated has been just like this like 25. 00 or 30 percent in may and that is clearly its going to happen as it looks now from. The. Tests we have right now. So. Its its a logistical goossens and who knew. Lassie restrictions are fast 50 people gathered boxes in terms of crime and i live here my partner has to go to work every day so. Whats. Been you explain it is not. What easy and the idea seems to be 1. 192 on her. Yeah well everybodys at asked to restrict their number of social contacts so even if. You know artists banister. Under 50 people people are still at a toll to limit their social contacts and the elderly people of the 70 years old are told to hear message. All of their social contacts but as you can and not to meet grandchildren there so i think its kind of a misconception that this reads i do we need very much differently compared to countries we are trying to flatten the curve of the elderly there but i think to france as you heard previously at least after action you nuts trying to stop the virus and spreading but merely slowed. The process. I think go do your point. Is here and we are not going to be stuck with. The were trying to. Slow down the spread of its soul and that the Health Care System will be able to manage it and theyve heard immunity is a side effect of this and possibly a Positive Side effect because it just will in the long run mean that this virus will stop spreading in the population. To try to see their Group Concern tissue who disagree with the policy of the swiss government like rats and all got together although the end of an editorial in the newspaper one of them is. Ones own since at least one strategy in my sins no. Sweden is nowhere near her immunity and nor is starcom we have intense clusters of infected people and people with antibodies but in the general population also within starcom its very low a few percent only and this is in spite of the fact that sweden has very high birth numbers compared to the other scandinavian countries in the last week that was measured sweden had 501 deaths where is norway had 11 deaths and this means that herd immunity is not at all a means to acquire any kind of solution to this epidemic yes im just wondering how popular an opinion that is im sure another one of you here on today this is clovis are still the closest suggesting that we tackle this game. It is a fascinating conversation that will happen my march and clearly lives in sweden and he says to the biggest challenge is 19000. New that youve been looking at and his. Lessons are being learned as all countries over its been quite successful no density of that new can speaking to the public and they think this is a good idea to fill. Well i think that you can say that many swedes trust the government and they trust the agencies and theyre. Trying to do their best to follow their recommendations and the regulations that we have many people that. Write to us at the time not that are really worried. And wonder if theyre doing the right thing if theyre following the rules some of their also are. A bit hard to implement and to be sure that theyre doing the right thing a lot of people are so concerned that they have to go to work even though they are for example a high risk group. So of course there are a lot of questions about the strategies and. Differing from many other countries spurt. I do think that a lot of swedes. Just try to follow the rules and and hope that theyre doing the right thing to think you know that and the. Legal scientists neuroscientists know just. These and i think. No one is really sure about the right strategy. The government and the agencies are are saying this all the time that were not sure that were doing the right thing but this is what we believe in as a strategy so i think thats good to keep in mind. He says the poor nothing is equal engine at this the conversation pump you are also his and adding the seems the m. T. F. And the less the well whether the season which. Doesnt do much good point. And then i want to need one just a little bit and this is not seen many questions its really a while. Shes a work because agents who have more neednt be spent in the death of. The young and not as young as if. It was no negative effect on that colony i guess time will tell on you. Which some people. Dont and. Isnt a gamble its gonna seem collusion is in question unless you think women well are having the hardest shot in underwear get. As you can even if we have a difficulty with that connection well it turns out we were trying to carry each try once again when peoples lessons. Where i think that what arab country is doing right now are there will be. Economic costs there will also be people dying and i think its very important also to look at the long perspective where heard previously air regency higher death rates this wilderness territory or neighboring countries which some people argue that he carries a strict on measures there are many marilee boning this epidemic so its very important to consider it will be there how in the long run not only the economic costs or what but we seem countries where we have. Locked down since the increase in Domestic Violence we have seen some countries canceling their imagination probably programs due to. Sound effects are these stricter measures as so i think its very important to remember that youve thought we could reduce the rate is in short term. Nobody really knows what will be the best strategy in the long run not only. When it comes to the financial and the economy but also when it comes to your Public Health issues. I dont want to glutes you havent a who does look good whos done until people who serve in. Our lives in regard. To someone. Who is a. Well done. A lot of the same of you thank you for bringing up that question because when we talk about who you are the hardest hit in sweden right now of course its the elderly and i have perhaps another complementing explanation to why the elderly are harder than other groups since we know right now but if we talk about the minority groups in sweden we can just have as an example. I know on the private initiative in need the march and late march 1st. Time they thought were providing communications and information in different languages that could reach out to ethnic minorities and we have a large group of ethnic minorities in sweden and the discourse if we could say the over all talk from the authorities in the beginning was that. As they called it they behaved in a certain kind of way and ive heard it too in this show from my from my coke that just a fence that they rely on swedes to act in a certain crying a way follow the rule. Respecting the authorities and yes sure but we also have groups in sweden that. Spend time with each other in their everyday lives in perhaps a different way than than the authorities counted on. I mean it. Has a right to be entered. In sweden right now because of your luggage it was. I dont hope like it and i dont think its working and the measure i have on that is our Staggering Amount of deaths and the excess deaths so consider that fact its not working out say. All right this is a conversation because even sweden doesnt want this mug and they will be neat you can change one actually if they feel the need to sneeze all of china its not going to one of us loves the us a she did participate in an unseemly how good outcomes. Was just stated by one of us one of us a much means ones and how you do that which. Is the sooner you think we should cover not down he can see that some of us i suggest you make this once you can do this very snotty thank he cause his we have looked at the swedish responses and didnt make the point youre going to im going to ask now for a coolest against session passing of the t. V. But i want the consequence including thinking 6. Hours. I easily test. And trace frank assessments its only struggling to cope with a number of her own voters failure to take really aggressive action really get them behind her informed opinions its going to be much more challenging in a place like eva theres one ventilator very relieved people in depth analysis of the days global headlines india done enough to nip the spread of the one of ours in the inside story on aljazeera. They wanted 43000000 homes with a weapon that was 6000000000 pounds intermission. Theres no hope of any more because theres always a small cobbles people for really really good misfits. In essence we in the United States have privatized the ultimate public function. Shadow on aljazeera. There was. Israel on state t. V. Airs video of an alleged u. S. Mercenary hear president mentor oaklands was behind a failed coup washington denies any link. But im Richelle Carey this is aljazeera life until also coming up official figures released in the u. K. 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