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Domestic violence gender based violence child abuse jena coronavirus pandemic and this topic was suggested by a regular viewer if you or she advanced to the 80 before the court in 1000. 00 pandemic the woman would have the option of leaving home in order to run away from the violence or even go to the police immediately and report but now they have no choice but to stay at home these people are left idle and men lash out has been flushed out for that even the smallest of reasons and that woman is buttered and bruised and she has nowhere to go because they have to stay at home and i am going to say right now that some of the things that weve been discussing may be very difficult for you to hear very difficult to watch but if you feel comfortable and you can please me and i used to chat discussion and you can talk to our guests let me introduce the guests and i rachel introduce the south. My name is Rachel Reeves later on in the arc or of no its book group knows what we dont know about Domestic Violence. Its so good to have you hello mantissa welcome to the strain tell us who you are. My name is mandy secondly im the director of an Organization Called rise up against gender based violence are based in south africa and the birth of the total shut down movement its an intersection warrant against gender based. Marcum and please introduce yourself welcoming. Thank you for me hello everyone i have a really short title i am assistant secretary general and deputy executive director of un women and for those of you who dont know if you and womens the flagship entity in the United Nations system dealing with gender equality and womens empowerment great to be yes good to have you all 3 of you ladies this is a hard topic to talk about but i know youll be very candid and share stories and take us around the world in our conversation but 1st of all for you anita you have given a un women have given what is happening now with downs around the world a very Short Description a different kind of pandemic tell us the name youve given it and why. We call it a shadow pandemic because it is as big a problem as the cole with 1000 disease but its been hidden and it hasnt been talked about enough it now needs to come out of the shadows and into everybodys lives as a problem that we all need to worry about and solve thats why we call it the shot of endemic. Rachael i think one of the best things to to understand what is going on down life and the people who are living with abuses is to shay an example can you do that for us sure i mean unfortunately ive had a lot of terrible terrible examples i spoke to a woman in texas a couple of weeks ago who said that her abuser she is a 50 year. Life especially a lifetime restraining order against him and he was on a g. P. S. Bracelet and just went before the judge and said well you know theres no point in me having a g. P. S. Im in lockdown so can i have this taken off you know when youre on g. P. S. Up and youre to pay for it yourself so the judge was lenient and took it off and now she is living in this absolute state of terror expecting him to show up at her house at any time she wont go jog route after 8 pm she has extra cameras around her house but its a form of terror i think shadow pandemic is exactly right it is a form of terror that. Is absolutely anxiety inducing others ive heard of other stories where people have been using coded 19 as a way to keep children away from x. Spouses one woman called. Line in response line an Emergency Line and said. You know my husband is spitting on me because he thinks he has these are the kinds of stories that are coming out its. It doesnt even have to be a perm its this other type of coercion and fear that their names and. Mandisa e. U. S. Seeing. People appealing to you and i say sion. In south africa can you explain whats happening. Ok so currently the reporting mechanism sewage into bass lanterns in our country are that you call in to a course into and then they dispatch Emergency Services to or whatever resources you require but then we have communities we people live in shacks or one bedroom apartments with the perpetrator would be an issue of distance so as an organization we didnt start it a lot cept live in so that you dont they dont need to hear you and you can call for help and send us a g. P. S. Location and we will essentially add. We bring help to your door we go directly to survivors and missions if you will most of them with Police Services and move them to places of safety some of the stories that weve seen particularly one of our 1st survivor is the gentleman even though we were the with the police still trying to solve in our prisons over and above that he wouldnt let him leave without taking his shoes you know that had portuguese shoes you are not going to be in this house without just before its with absolutely nothing to go to a place of safety those are the kind of situations that were seeing right now on the ground and its its really horrific for women to reflect that they voices conde heard that they dont have access to the immediate circles of support so they dont have access to their friends their family their colleagues people who would usually notice a bruise or some kind of sign that somethings going on and theyre now trapped with these perpetrators in the home. I want to ask you men do so because the text is something texting is something that ive seen a lot of response lines in the u. S. Where and they actually be nimble enough to switch to very quickly but what ive heard literally all across the country ive talked to people and the thing that haunts them are the survivors who call up or who are taxed and say im calling because i text i texted because blah blah blah and. And then they hang because they can then many easier theyre about to be caught. Yeah and what i what weve heard is that in south africa in the last week of march there were to over 2000 cases which is 40 percent more than the same number of people would called in 2019 is that true. In definitely true and also what we found is there is an extreme spike because of different lines so youve got a range of Domestic Violence hotline and we just have a general gender based violence hotline and all of that we have seen dressed increases in terms of numbers calling in particular. Were also seeing. Were also seeing an increase in rape within the household so open cases of children being listed by either father. Or someone in the whole while ready turning to finding their you finding parental laughter into the ribs or. Marital rape theres a huge increase in that as. This so no you never make it out if i may just im just im just going to be im just looking at a tweet from the United NationsPopulation Fund and they are just showing the impact to cover 1000. 00 women and girls and they say if the lockdown continues for at least 6 months can this me so run 1000000 additional cases of gender based violence could be expected to occur that number is even difficult to fathom i want to jump into the conversation and share it with you ladies and a design says i think Domestic Violence existed with these families. But this pandemic has more to the front and people feel trapped in these do you want to take that 1st of all. Yes i think shes right you know women are not safe at home the place where you should feel the safest is your home and actually what this and emic is showing is. That hole is not a safe place for a lot of women and the reason by the way we call this a shadow pandemic is because the definition of pandemic is something thats global in nature so this isnt happening just in the u. S. Or in texas or in europe were seeing it in south africa were seeing it in pretty much every country in the world and so i think there is really an urgent need for governments to come out and say you know what we are fighting a disease but we have another Public Health emergency which is Domestic Violence call it a Public Health emergency and give it the attention it deserves youve got a large stimulus packages that governments are managing theyre trying to prop up their economies are the focusing on Domestic Violence as part of the stimulus package thats one of the things that we had you on women are asking for were saying this is a Public Policy issue name it and fix it fix it by spending on shelters fix it by spending on Law Enforcement and lets get the private sector involved lets get Telephone Companies to give away Free Services to women who need to call lets get pharmacies and other institutions involved that can be places where women can go to lets get Companies Like google to say well share information on how many searches there are on Domestic Violence so you know everyones got to play their part of it and like the donations are taking us in a need to because were going on a away from this is the problem to this is what we can do when ds or your organization rise up against gender based violence there are tweets and posts where im looking at what you have done during lockdown which is an intense lockdown can you explain to our audience what is possible even june intense lockdown were not really allowed to go out only just to buy groceries and there are police in the streets what is possible. Look what weve done since we have permits as essential services we have. Given ourselves to the evacuation process or the part of evacuating survivors another thing that we havent spoken about is the economic violence that comes of Domestic Violence so you having men that are starving their families as a form of punishment during the slap down so were providing food parcels and packages for those families so that they can continue during this time also another thing that we that has also been encouraged by you in as well is to provide the support made took so many sort of Community Based what groups where theres some kind of chick interested a team where you actually do safety checks and ensure that everybodys ok and they can be able to report to them those clips of something is going on and someone in the neighborhood can intervene with out breaking lockdown conditions so this is something that each and every Single Person can do in the in the communities in their neighborhoods to contribute i dont mislead want to share this with you ladies but im going to because there are people in the well to think like this and i want you as their well being to actually understand and maybe we can help them understand what is going on with gender based violence so in you tube unapologetic 662 what is the woman doing that subsetting and rachel can you explain to that i knew it was an attempt to make you. Laugh but also time talking to abuses as well as people survive Domestic Violence so youve got. Well you know the thing is until the 1970 s. All the literature had that same framework around Domestic Violence if a woman was being beaten it was because she was she was bringing it on herself so i will say that that the structures that exist for men exist for women as well and they exist were children right we havent talked about children being abused in the home but i had an e. R. Doctor in portland say to me just a couple of weeks ago its not. That cases im going to remember its the child abuse cases so. You know the thing is. The u. K. Has a response line for men for men who are violent and trying very hard not to be violent those calls that response line are up 200 percent so there is a cry for help not just from women and not just from children but from from even from some men even from some some people who are the violent perpetrators. You know the advice that i am giving to women in a violent situation or a violent home right now its totally different than what i would have said 2 months ago right to moneygall i never would have said be passive. Dont dont provoke deescalate as much as you can and these are not pieces advice that i that i as a feminist would have ever given but thats what im saying now to women right the goal is to get out of this pandemic alive. Elizabeth rainey is asking this and this is it and been a friend to all of you ladies Elizabeth Rainey is coming t. Will be our new normal for a while well options to people who have to leave an abusive situation deceased. I specifically want to talk about this because this countries that have adopted the smuggler and im like to see it adopted the world over including in my country where the perpetrator gets moved to the shelter instead of the survivor so its important because why are you relocating me why am i leaving my home my space of comforts in the area that still so my and childs school. So someone else has a perpetrator to occupy the home so if we can do is strong policy advocacy work around the world to ensure that our government state the seriously and start having shelters for perpetrators so that being one get the proper Psychosocial Support that they need they get the interventions that they need so that they can stop being tried it and also see a list of struction in the lives of survivors of violence and their children so thats definitely one of the things that i wanted to raise as a solution and i think something that can help us going forward. Oh so motoring im 2nd that the great and it or Something Else right if this lockdown situation what would you do if you of your child if you will and it doesnt necessarily have to be a woman thats being abused also could be a man of course and the options would utilize those options so i like mindy says idea but we also have to think about other things that where women can actually get help when they need it and right now its quite difficult for a lot of women who are being abused to pick up the phone and call because abusers of course control folds they control assets very often so we need Technology Companies to step in here to create amps that make it easy for women to seek help we do need what some countries have done you know when france rented 20000 hotel rooms and when france and spain created these hotlines that you could use by going to a pharmacy that was a good idea and you know so we need to see more of that but we need also showed jurors to be declared absolutely essential and we need help for womens organizations to be kept alive and for helplines to be kept alive and also we need police and Law Enforcement to be sensitized so if theres a strong message that goes out to Police Officers which sets 8 you know this is a problem be attentive that will help. I want to draw attention to the no more campaign because the normal campaign has an ad out right now where its very subtle and manish is washing his hands and then the camera pans past the man washing his hands and in the background you see 2 feet and its a woman on the floor and then theres a helpline and what hes asking is its asking us as a community as different societies around the world do we should speak up if we hear something we should say something. So on the stream earlier we spoke to pamela its a bother to no more foundation and she talks about that campaign it was not to help people report Domestic Violence when ever they hear that its happening its an honor to be hear from no more foundation a Global Initiative to the messy when its a Sexual AssaultDomestic Violence has always been an epidemic but during covert 19 numbers have increased because many victims are home with their abusers in response no more has launched the hashtag this is the from Home Campaign that encourages anybody that hears or is aware of the message what is happening to get help in order to do it safely in an emergency please call 911 or 4 support call 1807 am i safe for more information visit no more than or im just thinking right to that idea of reporting that thats responsibility for all of us not just putting this instability on the person and the kids in that situation get discipline. Yeah i think and i think i have said this is this is the time provided standards to be enforced you know one of the things that is in fact a powerful reducer is having on a situation and as neighbors as friends we can call our family members we can call our friends and check in and we can come up with cold words you know and either mention france and spain with the mask 19th what i think is a directive or a victim to come up with a code that is particular to her situation and so i think we need to get it. So you know when i was in uganda last year i saw this really cool thing that these students and had built which was a bracelet that women could wear and that was something of the bracelet and i dont know how the Technology Works but they could actually do something on that bracelet which then sent a signal to somebody who could then know that they were. Sending the signal because they were in trouble so we need some Innovative Solutions because in lockdown the things that would normally apply right when you have restrictions on freedom of movement your options are much more limited so we need some out of box thing out of the box thinking and thats where i think Technology Companies can really helps. Talk about out of the box thing i want to bring in and she had gone rock shes a Vice President of Public Engagement at the Canadian Womens Foundation and we spoke to her on the stream one of the things that she said really struck us she was equating Domestic Violence to a global disease and that government should mobilize to tackle 8 i think its really important for governments to recognize the seriousness of gender based violence and Domestic Violence at this time its getting worse in the pandemic but the violence that women and trans and our very people are most at risk of things like Sexual Assault and intimate Partner Violence and Emotional Abuse these things are always unacceptably high in our communities so i think its really important for governments to treat it like a pandemic in and of itself like any epidemic or pandemic situation government state to really invest in prevention and intervention and what does that look like i think it starts with investing in the Grassroots Community level already doing this work and anything thats exactly what youre saying do you feel that and youve been saying to us during the program do you feel that somehow where we are now with lockdown lives and people who are being abused stuck with that. How no how long do we know what we dont know do you think that is going to change the way that government authorities make policy. Yes i actually see this change coming so you when women did this policy brief im holding up to our own right next to a reading on the yeah the impact of goldberg on women rights and lots of governments are reading this and they want to do the things that are in this as policy prescriptions 136 countries actually signed up to u. N. United nations secretary general antonio good terrorises appeal and his call for really naming Domestic Violence. Theres a problem so weve had a 136 countries around the world sign up for that thats a really good sign now the next thing is to actually take the money that governments are spending to help the economy is recover and dedicate part of that to something which frankly is a Public Health emergency but has never been. Meant as a go ahead definitely i want to see resource allocation to the response to gender based violence and theres nothing that you hear from today its that resources are mrs siri this is not going to go away its not going to disappear into thin resources i mean to say womens rights organizations around the world including you in women need to be better resourced we need to start seeing governments taking issues of women seriously and actually putting their money where their mouths are is especially corporate women are more than 50 percent of the global population that we are giving you the money to continue to operate and you need to start treating us as such. Im not going to have to live to get it if i if i made what we got a lot of. Money on you were reading them youre talking to each other reprieve this christians is watching. It should be said that men do get used by women and i would have to assume that that has increased as well what do we know guess about that but youre nodding your head. Yes i hear this all the time lets not forget them and its absolutely true that the. Most lethal situations though still tend to be men against women but when were talking about Domestic Violence a term that i find a trouble term when were talking about that were really talking about. All kinds of consolations were talking about you know were talking about child abuse were talking about male victims of violence and i think all of us as here today. Agree when we are talking about domestic grounds were including those but they are there are many of us at the under resourced. It is we have one many missing one conversation that we can actually had all day so im going to ask you to give us one sentence one takeaway that might help who may the be in a situation oh maybe thinking that someone they know maybe in a dangerous situation once because we only have a minute left. The time for shame about the meth balance is over we absolutely have to address this just talk to people the me too movement showed us a way to talk about sensitive subjects publicly and we. Meant to say we now have 45 seconds take away. Believe survivors of Domestic Violence believe the dorm victim blaming them believe them and help them. And. So the time for change is now. Thank you so much to so much talk about thank you there is a very interesting conversation like the conversation going on the need that has been inspired by you rachel you monday say you need to be thank you very much for being part of the stream will of course share your candles your contacts if anyone needs help they know where to go to get a sense watching this episode is a strange and addition seen exile. In countries like mine people have been killed to be william United States have privatized the ultimate Public Function was this was a deal with saudi arabia things were done differently saudis and other arabs they came to britain for be all to help the past bombs do you will rumsfeld the. Meeting saddam isnt there interesting. Shadow on aljazeera. You know certain isolating times the listening post cuts through the noise youve been looking at another side of this story now from our 3 information around the outbreak but. The listening post on aljazeera. 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