I thought he had k. And will in the stream today a respectful representation why do you suppose he teaches so destructive to the community lets take a look at a vital twisted thread that explores the impact that some a common tropes have on people with disabilities and this is how important conversation we want to hear from you you can chat me in all tweet me at a. J. Strain. My name is Malcolm Smith and i want to stick to that media traps that affect me one i says the people are jerk wants his bad behavior is justified because there really isnt this tropi its autistic people as entitled which makes it hard pressed to get accommodations to just that people are always white male and young usually children this trial makes it harder for people of color women and adults to get diagnosed and also makes it difficult for translators that people like me to get care i just think people need respect where were trained in the media tonight is that basic need. Disabled people are lazy and just need to get off this selfindulgent butts and do some hard work or anything is better than being disabled all you look disability inspires me offensive absolutely and only just some of the most common ways that disability used in media pop culture literature politics and so much more this is cindy ford when how those cindi she is and also who wrote that thread you just saw that has been tweeted and like several 1000 times and if you havent read it yet you can bookmark it share it engage with your community on it citys latest book is where the watermelons grow also with us on the program and how gus the most at disability and diversity activist in Monterrey Mexico and founder of the mexican woman with Disabilities Movement have you badly and how another friend of the stream Lawrence Carter long is the director of communications at the disability rights education and defense fund thank you all for being with us yes sir ready to start the conversation cindy i am looking at this thread i have read it several times just take a spot set the scene where were you what was your mood when he said when he sat down to write. With 11 troops any Details Details in here something that i had actually been thinking about doing for a couple of weeks i am as you mentioned im an author i write books for children and so i end up reading a lot of books for children too and read fairly regularly all 3 books that have really hurtful portrayals of people with disabilities and this is something that i had been thinking about for a couple weeks and i had i had kind of had the idea that a lot of the problem with media representations of disability is the fact that most people that were all raised in such an able with the fighting that we dont actually recognize what good and bad ability rip. And he is and so i kind of had this idea that maybe if i broke down some of the common tropes and explained why they were hurtful then it might help and i didnt expect it to get much traction i was honestly really just hoping that like all of library and then the kidlet world would read it or Something Like that and kind of help help to spread that message really take out how did it get this just a humble brag how big did it get i think last time i checked it was like point 6000 like theres something about 5000 retreat im just sitting at one point here you say update im having to mute this thread for now thank you everyone in the shed and discuss these words so appreciate it like ok by. So much was happening you know as what was happening here that this particular threat at this particular moment really took off it really shows that cindy hit a nerve right there the problem with these troops there are reinforced over and over again people in the hear them over and over again theyre not questioned they begin to believe them i think creatively the worst part about them is that theyre lazy right they dont give us any new ground they dont give us any new insight so would cindy did which is very great is you pop the bubble so that people could expand their brains and maybe have a different view i love money and how cindy actually numbers so lets go to number 4 because number 4 is something that you find really upsetting inspirational porn lets to get into that why did you pick that one out of the 11 that cindy gave us and then the only thing because this thread was amazing because it also had in this respect a bonnet which i think made it very real and like coming from a very like honest place think its been particularly inspiration for bothers me a lot because. Especially. That it has in everything from politic. To our lives through everything because we. Were not seen as subject right and were not given those rights but only when we become inspirational to others thats when we you know become alive. And also i think that when it comes to Inspiration Point it that narratives about that very able to narrative about that we came obviously will live this you know who inspire us not the stable for i think was a very powerful one and to be described in this way disabled person inspires every one of them by dint of that very presence changing lives cindy you work a lot with kids and you are saying that these stereotypes a harmful for children can you explain why oh it hugely harmful for children i have like i mentioned i will periodically read a book that i took a library get sent to me that has a harmful portrayal of disability and often its hard for me to read sometimes its like almost physically hard for me to read because its so invalidating of my existence and my realities and like im an adult you know i have my own kids i have a fairly like robust. But when a kid is reading things like that they dont have any of that framework built up and they themselves and the difficult kid in the usually still coming to understand what their disability means and how its different from other people and i am chronically ill and so help and illness has always been a big part of my life but when i was a teenager i became very very ill and i was i was almost completely bed bound for a year and kind of never the same after that and i struggled so much with these kind of disability tropes that we see in representation in media because i felt like there were all these things they had to do to be a good and valuable disabled person and like my life wasnt actually worth anything if i. I wasnt kind of living up to that media narrative of what a good to fable person looked like and so thats something thats always on my mind. As a kid author like i feel like you have a sacred responsibility because people are reading this when theyre still forming their understanding of themselves and the world and how they deserve to be treated and how they deserve to live their lives so thats something thats always on. And that was one of the points he picked up that anything is better than to say and we share this with you this is mashal shit michel right seen in tweets that the strain often the only exposure people have to disabled people is file what they see in the media now much of the majority of stories about disabled people are written by a body people who are writing it from even this discriminatory perspective it sounds outrageous lawrence but that happens all the time in movies it happens all the time you know we wouldnt we dont accept that anymore with gender we dont accept that anymore with that message the thing with disability is weve always had those stories told by other people right its been the doctors its been the social workers its been the preachers the teachers and the parents i think whats unique about whats happening right now is were 30 years past the time when the americans with disabilities act was passed and disabled people are speaking for themselves right theyre tweeting for themselves and everybody else can read that so theyre no longer saying the disability is a dirty word right there that its got 8 letters right 9 letters its not a 4 letter word not a curse word so we can say it right that its not something that happens incident or accident but its something that were a part of its bigger than any one individual when we say that were disabled were part of a community were part of 61000000. 00 people in the United States billions of people around the world thats 26 percent of the population here in the u. S. So its nothing to be ashamed of its nothing to run away from we dont what i feel. To short too precious to pick up somebody elses shame disabled people arent doing that anymore and were not having it which is why we like these threads like these are popular and how go ahead i should also say that michelle isnt a well chosen as some think that cindy. Said and i love this on her tweet she said cher you know all the chunks of me share you of a stereotype to me i want to hear from you and then in parenthesis disabled people only full of this please so she didnt want people who didnt have disabilities to have an opinion in this particular topic way and hell go ahead and make me what lawrence was saying and i also i think this transcends countries and language is bigger than spanish and in mexico we have the same you know how we have the same issue in our side for example if we see the little us like the biggest pop coulter. Thing that you see everywhere every person with a disability that its brigade on its like you know the poor person who cant be happy and theyre not cured and it was a part of a part of the disability one of the disability troops that was under threat. So you know it was late in the end the bad guy you know dies the bad guy becomes blind for example and its like its kind of like this curse so the disability negative narrative has been internalized even by us the person with a disability and obviously its a little able is. The only telling without having a disability is very telling way of. The nameless story telling yeah and its been like part of that and not only in the United States but i see it all around the world as well i know you took thats true yeah yeah. Yeah i was going to say i dont like the plane or most people are born into Disability Community you can be born into an ethnicity you can be born into a religion you can be born into a poor. Little party or affiliation but most people dont know other disabled folks from the time theyre born and theyre not encouraged to know other disabled folks so all of those negative means all of those negative attitudes all of those negative things that most nondisabled people never challenge get put upon that disabled kid so i think its really important that as were growing up as were talking that we begin to stretch that in switch that what i think is really incredible about this is somebody is telling you that youre not defined by your disability or you shouldnt be defined by your disability what that tells you is that theyre using an old definition if i if you go to the disabled people that i work with your address theyre going to tell you if you ask what the word means to them theyre going to say things like Culture Community institue unsee identity right it has nothing to do with diagnosis and so if youre soley thinking did this of disability is diagnosis youre signaling to everybody else that you quit the Disability Community that youre stuck in the past we need to move on lawrence im going to bring up cindys trial number 7 cindy and i want to share this with people because i feel this is where youve had to pay out into the open this kind of pretty face to face no lets put his opinion out there chose number 7 for me and dont let your disability define you i guess this comes from nondisabled people are trying real hard to make sure disabled people often seen as new wants people here and thats admirable but its also fighting to cross an important fact many disabled people defined by disabilities sydney yeah so this is something that has been kind of a long journey for me because like because my illness was a part of me since i was born i have grown up with adults and Authority Figures around me saying oh you are defined by this that this is just something that you know a small part of your life it doesnt have to control you and i reached a certain point as a teenager were i was like thats completely not true. This doesnt define my life theres no action that i do in my life that is not filtered through the lens of my disability because everything that i do i have to make sure you have enough energy i have to make sure that im not going to have physical joint issues or muscle issues that are going to physically prevent me from doing that i mean on and on and on and so its something that i grew to be frustrated about but i also agree with what lawrence is saying because what i always say is that my disability does define me but thats ok its not necessarily a bad thing and i think usually its only able people who see that idea of a disability defining somebody who immediately jump to that being a bad or a negative thing because like theres a lot of things that define me i mean im lactose intolerant and so that defines like whether or not i can drink but thats not something that im like oh my gosh i hope that thats adding you know. Go ahead i want to jump in and what did just said because i think its so powerful that you as a woman with you know a disability have the voice to actually say i am not defined by my disability i mean i am do and i am defined by the ability because if not then you would be raising like this effort to go day to day but you dont see that i think im i think i i thought about this job a lot and they also think that there are people who say this is a disability dozens of find them. I think it could also you know it could have a different also i think you know maybe positive vision about it about you know there are other things that i would. Considered binding but as long as none of them are based on the fact that visibility is like a bad thing that were like a broken negative not happy being then i think its great that we can have our own versions up or not but not based on the you know negative. Narrative about it ok i guess and i guess let ourselves let me just say were going to see ourselves what the assumption underlying assumption the underlying assumption when anybody says your disability doesnt define you is the disability beg im going to push back against that right to get the disability s. And i was just giving it to my little sliver of time because i want to share with you i thought from valerie couch and as she is a film and t. V. Critic and she puts a really interesting point into our conversation here it is i think its vital to have creators and storytellers who have disabilities or who know people with disabilities as well if there is family members organise friends involved in the pretrial of characters with disabilities otherwise youre viewing one particular segment of their perspective and youre doing a disservice to this audience my 10 year old son has spinal bifida and i can tell you theres a huge difference between being born with a disability and developing later in life and its important to show we all have things that make us different and make a special. While i have to so let me just show you whats happening here on where hell is says that one example of inclusion is representation its very important for people to see examples of people with disabilities in stillness a media not portrayed in a way city this is some of the you mentioned much. Particularly the kids and then in films of what happens to people with disabilities. That is my husband gets to hear my rant about this whenever watching t. V. I especially im certain types of a genre as there is a huge problem for disability in characters to be sort of a symbol of either weakness or d like ineffectiveness or evil and you see a lot in certain in certain kids media we watched on netflix last year the series of unfortunate events which was really fun but one of the things that got me every single time is that one of the adults in the story is the ineffective guardian whos never able to save his charges from the evil character and he is his main character they show is that he has a chronic car and and its the car is used as a shorthand to show that hes weak and ineffective as a guardian and it just always got me because like i have Cystic Fibrosis i cough all the time and and you see that a lot you see another thing that drives me that a lot of times a character will have asthma and theyll have an inhaler but the inhaler is actually a symbol of their lack of confidence and then when they get confident at the end they throw away the inhaler and im like thats not how inhalers work that not how i have no work it doesnt matter how much inner confidence you are having oh youll 1000 we need to find that awesome a kid over all of you or it just being 3 ways if you are a moments notice just. One of the jobs that you have an eye at this is a comment here from amanda ross and what i love she said just a reminder guys this thread is super helpful but the only way to get a better idea of if it is helpful or stereotype is to pay all trade for sensitivity read you a kind of that you are living in poverty meant that sensitivity florence for instance she was. 10 a classic movies and you were looking full representation of good disability to portray as a disability and then when we look to good we look to good bad and whack a doodle you know what we did finally look at you 137 movies from the same one era up through the time the 88 was passed in 1990 and we looked it. Over those friends over those tropes that were shown during those times and how they echoed and how they changed throughout those times and all of these things that cindy shows in her thread kept coming up over and over again one of the things you never saw within those 78 decades of disability in film was disability and community what happens when disabled people come together when they decided enough is enough and were not going to take it anymore thankfully it was just at the Sundance Film Festival a couple weeks ago saw the World Premiere of a movie called grip camp by nicole newnam and jim the direct its going to drop on that flicks that show these people would do a summer camp they came out of the summer camp they realize i am not alone in this and people want to change the literal world they went and they fought for disability civil rights and laws came out of that had changes in attitudes came out of that people are going to be able to see maybe for the 1st time what happens when Disability Community comes together that is a great leap forward. Politics because this of us in politics is becoming more and more of a pick a topic not 7 even if if policies may not be paying attention but certainly people with disabilities making them Pay Attention im just looking at some of the hashtags of putting. Busy right now Disability Inclusion disability counts 2020 is a new another big one because theres a census in the United States and if you are not counted then there will not be policy thats built around you there will not be facilities and services that you need that will not be health have available and you need to be counted and counting people with disabilities is very important that right there may not be a specific question about this ability on the 2020 census yet all of those things that people rely on to live independent lives things like medicare or Health Care Coverage things like special education these like snap benefits or food stamps because people with disabilities are more likely to live in low poverty or low income or poverty than are nondisabled peers learn to love accurately as if you come across Donna Meltzer shes the c. E. O. Of the national cessation of councils on Development Disability she was talking about the census and disability she spoke to us here at the stream heres what she told us. Taking part in the census means that you are being counted this is critically important particularly for people with developmental disabilities. Lack of information about being the importance of the census and being counted people away from being counted but its critically important if we want the right amount of funding to be available we have to stand up and be counted dont let stigma or lack of information stantons were that they had us yeah life is too short for somebody elses shape its really important for disabled people which is what were seeing now weve got disability counts 2020 dot org you go directly to that website you got 9 videos that are it english spanish and American Sign Language that can give you all the details that you need about why disabled people need to be counted in the census were very excited about this were seeing people across the state of california and indeed the country who are not going to be counted it is going to put themselves front center which is. Being like a genius they are now have read what it was that i think that on the census i were Pretty Simple in mexico we have this thing which we need to be counted in this time this year for the 1st time this ability is going to be part of that of the questions thats going to be on this short and long questionnaire on the census because you know where were invisible them there is no way that we can be part of the creation of Public Policy and social development of our needs and what we want and also think that it comes together with that of this ilk realty narratives and folks because in mexico for example as an example we have been told me social policy that we have today like a policy with our new president has been totally as a potential as nothing that has to do particularly where our health or you know we talk about women with disabilities about violence there is nothing about that nothing about our education nothing about you know this development so i think. Its. Important to be counted but its also important to keep on pushing this trouble this narrative because these are the sometimes these are the only you know things that people go on have any idea about his ability and have the power of making decisions know and then they make the decisions all right let me just share one muscle here from you when i got to wrap up with cindy. This comment from stick you must find 09 and she tells what invisible disability and she said that they cant be seen im treated like i dont have a disability because it cant be seen and im abusing the system so people suspicious of her saying that she has disability a disability she says i have epilepsy but you cannot see it. How do you want us to wrap up this conversation oh yeah i think that the wonderful choir i am i have a mostly invisible disability at all so i go to see what we want to thinking. And tests take and i guess i dont do regardless well i look fine but i read well i often write end to end to that are people being like saying weve got one more sentence to wrap up this show what a final salute you want to leave people with what is it i would really love to see more made for disabled people to tell our own stories because i think that is the thread that ties all of these issues together cindy we appreciate you and how thank you so much lawrence as always thank you a conversation continues online youll find me at a. J. Strain on twitter thanks for watching everybody see you next. Business leaders is both to by no brass paul. Business leaders is both to by no brass paul. In a country beset by poverty and lack of infrastructure. Sometimes we risk our own lives in taking these roads. 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