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Through your theyre all individuals with children. In the back story this place has become a complete trap. There is simply no way to put all these people you have to deal with them to treat those who didnt you expect. Is bollywood cozying up to these far right hindu nationalist government lost 2 of the indian Film Industry is best known creative figures. I made the house and with the Indian Government targeting of minorities demonstrations against them in the road these increasingly authoritarian rule have sprung up across india so why is bollywood being so silent indias powerful Film Industry afraid of modi and the b j p ill scream going to job up there and directing the haitian public but 1st ethiopian Prime Minister ahmed won the Nobel Peace Prize and 29000 for ending a decades long conflict with eritrea and introducing long overdue reforms to his country but after cracking down on protesters and dissolving his own Ruling Coalition ethiopia and sliding back into repression and violent conflict this weeks headline a close ally an advisor to the ethiopian Prime Minister. Thank you for joining me from your Prime Minister ahmed one of the 2019 Nobel Peace Prize at the end of a year in which he locked up journalists detained protesters and cut off the internet is that really how no. Peace Prize Winners are supposed to behave i dont know where you get these fights the there is no any your knowledge is in prison now he didnt arrest 5 journalists in september 29th. So the police failed to produce any shred of evidence for their alleged crimes theres an exaggerated thing now that i mean exaggerated is not a single exaggerated means of what there was one im going to leave it there if that there is one incident then were fake news has been. Put in a market to decide violence against the groups so what is amnesty is director for east and Southern Africa saying the return of mass arrests of opposition activists and supporters is a worrying signal in ethiopia these sweeping arrests risks undermining the rights to freedom of expression and association ahead of this years later this is not happening ethiopia tube is a free everybodys living here now to hear him there is make a mistake for. Telling you although youre not a star out of prison or a Political Prisoners are we out of prison be admitting they were not as the robes to these these are the prisoners detained by the previous regime or oppositions are removed and peaceful are invited back so the political space is wide and everybodys in the country that are just starting campaigning in different parts of im not questioning that people are campaigning or register im just saying that Human Rights Watch for example has said dozens of ethnic im horrid journalist were held 20000000 team in their report in the country i mean you were on this show 2016 as someone living in exile criticizing the previous government for being repressive authoritarian locking up protestors and journalists and now youre being criticized your government is being criticized for doing the same thing to your irony this government is not doing im not aware of this. And this government is not everything gone and is that about internet blackouts there is no any time the internet was blocked i mean who should people believe well wrote well known well respected people when they had to do for their investigation but i think you do need a result of the intel. The check out where the internet when the countrys very very very service is very low their coverage is very low. But i have not come across any incident where into you have a couple of protesters you havent come across the term journalist you havent come across internet blackouts no thats very convenient given its well documented are you sure its. Not ok im not in any your Prime Minister what a peace prize for ending the decades long conflict with neighboring eritrea and hes been applauded for that by many around the world at home but even in ethiopia the conflicts continue ethnic conflicts the violence is in fact escalated in many places ethiopia as one of the largest internally displaced populations in the world 1600000 people internally displaced fleeing violence thats a pretty massive failure on your governments part as well the displacement has its own cause as you know the top is going through it for the means. Or the group that is overthrown who are sponsoring conflicts in different parts of the country so this is a politically motivated. Displacement in order to. Sabotage the transition and the reforms that the Prime Minister looks like the records of a 1000000 people were displaced that there were 1st half of 20 really there were also just a political move to embarrass the government of india a 1000000 people it is people that have been people used to live together peacefully this is a politically masterminded. From behind in order to sabotage the 4 isnt the danger is that that structural problem is removed now people are bad to their residence and today now the top in it the new groups in every part of the country are living together in a very harmonious when i interview a lot of people on the show from Different Countries different Political Parties youve been on the show twice and its interesting interviewing you because you came on the show in a debate with the then member of the european government you were. Im living in the us yes and if youd said all this stuff there and he your opponent then the government had said well this is all just you trying to make us look bad to start your arguments can be used either way i do wonder if you you could sum up the previous government i do understand the record of the Prime Minister is clear the. Clear our Prime Minister is peoples our Prime Minister rehabilitated peace with their fear he media did peace between cells and sudan he has but he cant stop labels are being displaced there is only are the very sort of elation. Will from being displaced it is own country about drugs of thousands of the but the hands the hands. Who is masterminding all this violence is aimed at or is this is your satellite is already in or is the overthrow in leeds ok ok the people who are enjoying privilege for the last 27 years they minds they want to make sure this process is you have any evidence that what i meant is that is very patient i mean you have any evidence for example whats your evidence for that there is there is lots of evidence there is include evidence what is it there is little evidence this latest one but its a very clear ive learned 3 times what is the evidence weapon is being smuggled through because groups you found these weapons to seize for the of course there is a lot of weapons that were for those captured that comes through through the borders and money has been distributed in order this is all very very letter about and an attempt on the life of the Prime Minister also was tried in adult so there is people are living north stone and unturned in order to to to to to prevent it to appear to transit into democracy your party came to power in 2018 and now your Prime Minister ahmed is transforming ethiopias ethnic federal political system some would say without any real electoral mandate hes dissolved the Ruling Coalition he set up this whole new party the Prosperity Party to which your own defense minister has come out and criticized and said there are many dangers to doing these big dramatic changes in a hurry right now so why do it while this up people it was a natural process to coup to come to to come up with a party that is unified and the 1000000. 00 children go so its a Party Decision some members a decision the Central Committee decision that we finish executive Committee Decision so it has been done through the party rules and regulations so why did your defense minister say merging this party is not timely and there are many dangers we are in a transition this is borrowed time it is not our time we should focus on maintaining peace and stability why are you not focusing on peace and stability why are you doing these Dangerous Things according to your own defense minister peace and stability is a burning issue theres no question about that ok the Prime Minister liberalize a political space. Oppositions are invited in including those who are in the struggle those who are in prison with lives and now the political space is no danger turning a very dangerous move well the changes in ethiopia are very sweeping ok we have to either ok transit ethiopia into democracy otherwise there is no way the other will tell him to start but we have a global audience watching the show there is no any other option i understand our viewers around the world are watching the show they see you Senior Adviser to the office of Prime Minister saying this is a good thing and then they hear the defense minister of your government saying this is not a good thing should they believe well everybody is entitled to subpoena not really he said your government is really be singing from the same hymn sheet but what he said is what he said is hes not opposing the world hes not opposing the process but is saying maybe things are going so fast ok that is his opinion the current Prime Minister your boss up there has been in power for less than 2 years he was not elected directly to office and in november with just months before this upcoming general election in august he approved all these big changes this dissolution of the Ruling Coalition. Does he have a mandate to do any of this stuff i mean nobody nobody elected him to do any of this to the party it is a party this is but in america its european constitution the federal structure no he has not done all it will be in federation of state hes not tampering with the federation hes a federalist the multinational for the nation is a Constitutional Order what is being transformed and what is being rebranded is a party going to have a mandate for that you know as a matter that the members have in mind it in the members are doing that suv massive deliberation deliberation has been taking place within the party for a year. Thanks for joining me out front thank you so much thank you. Attacks on students moblin chings an escalation in hate crimes and the mainstreaming of a hardline brand of hindu nationalism these have all been features of india under the leadership of Prime Minister Narendra Modi whose party lost a key election in delhi this week yet few celebrities have spoken out against modi or the rise in intolerance many of them instead of big supporters of the Prime Minister but today were joined by 2 of the biggest names in bollywood who havent been shy to make their voices heard jahvid up there is an acclaimed screenwriter songwriter and poet as well as a former member of indias upper house of Parliament Im irish but is one of indias best known film directors and producers whose directed over 50 films since his career began in 1974 java dr marriage but thank you both for joining me from java dr let me start with you how bad actually is the situation in india today in your view in terms of rising nationalism bigotry authoritarianism. If i look around and indeed it is much worse but the fact is in india without it i can see it with. The dark and it is true. And mahesh bhatt do you agree with that how much is the india that want to tout it secular pluralistic multifaith credentials in india that you enjoy of it grew up in how much of that india is gone do you think well it was called the mother of civilizations it was a little land which gave birth to people like now look and the mother of our mission had begun and the fact is there were jobs up just said is that it couldnt have been worse and the night is only deepening we have had a real hope just a few days ago where. The the drubbing. That they lost the election to get it was the party but thats just one little of all measure but you said in the past that fascism is quote alive and well in the land of the mahatma what would you say to critics who say thats hyperbole thats an exaggeration india is a democratic country and theyre in the mode he won his majority last year fair and square well i would say that it can be done to look over from the thats that explosive silence the muslims of this are my country and not really the muslims even the other minorities a member to move to secure the field now it is shoes to. Agree to come this toot is their privilege but they do india a lot of harm when people are frightened to speak to people why the about whats going to happen next this add googling desire to india and the do not want to see it its a tragedy they will have to take stock of the situation and act with urgency with after my case but mentioned muslims and other minorities and the fear that they have just in the past year alone since modis reelection weve had this citizenship law which for the 1st time introduces a religion test for immigrants for refugees from neighboring countries everyone except muslims eligible you have a register of citizens at a sum which is excluded nearly 2000000 people many of the muslims from the citizenship list you have the Supreme Court decision which allows for the building of a hindu tell ball on a disputed religious site the site of a mosque that was destroyed by hindu nationalists all of that in just in the past year is it fair to say that muslims in india now feel that theyre in the firing line and as a matter of fact theyre not going to be. Into a muslim problem a problem a minority but not. This is the problem for india and theres the problem of his near as you can with kids can be as capris dont reach the plate from bit people put the enemy then they can be that means the fact is that. And instead maybe if you are talking not only are muslim i mean no. Joy to a community of people they did it the fact that you when you look around the theists. Who. Has been for detention is shrinking by the day did you. Hear me. Gentle well in india dead or polluted to the present regime it was not for thick steel but indeed so let me bring in moshe but here the reality is as you well know that the b j p and the r. S. S. The ideological force behind the b j p the Paramilitary Group that forms a lot of the ideological backbone of the b. G. P. Has been very anti muslim for many decades now and when you look at whats happening in for example here which was indias only muslim majority state before that the government went along and basically broke it up a few months ago and put it under siege you can understand why muslims in india muscles around the world are looking at india and saying what is going on here in terms of islamophobia anti muslim bigotry anti muslim hate especially when you look at for example the situation in kashmir. Well i dont think islamophobia the readers of islam of who are blue to the world are lame live and the like think the food is manufactured because i dont think that the average indian is so frightened of a muslim with that kind of a fear has been crafted been structured data in india media a person go out do the live chat lose are working around the clock to create to create the other they need the other 2 to stay in power and to hate the most of them is how big is the lifeline of the b j b thats not been so words are there is institutional bias which has been there since the dawn of time in this is a birth of the nation but now it is needed the mask is off and they are doing it right in their nose and. Measurements of the baskets off their inner modi won a 2nd term hes escalated his i dont know what you want to call it campaign of dominance of authoritarianism of consolidation of power for his party and for his movement whats interesting about modi is many people here in the United States where i am for example like to compare modi and trump trump doesnt actually believe anything whereas modi is a lifelong ideologue hes been in the r. S. S. Since he was a child how dangerous a leader do you think there are in remote areas thats not simplified the if youd like believing that only he did do that there were Different Things he did but he had committed to germany and he was whatever he did he did only against. Your will and the way you were thought got to everybody and its not true that actually mean what you fashion you create an enemy you. Put your own people. In an imaginary theater and that is how you control them at the moment if through all of this that for the people who think it is people are losing their freedom of expression or confident that you need to explain it is not happening to one community it is not happening to one people do you believe there are modi is a fascist or course he is i mean a child dont have guns on their head if i shifted to thinking at this thinking that we are better then at that end what your problem we have it is because of these people the junta you hear it people in all fear. Youre a fish but let me ask you this when it comes to modi and bollywood cloud i want to talk about your industry your bollywood stars congratulating the Prime Minister on his reelection on twitter you have that famous selfie that got so much coverage of a bunch of Bollywood Actors including your daughter alia there claimed actress i believe that they took with modi you have the industrys top stars the harmons and others completely silent on the citizenship bill on crush me and on the attacks on students are you disappointed in some of your fellow artists that they havent taken the kind of stand that you have. Put myself up as a mortal and asked them to emulate me whom is with their right but fear is a political who has been used to the dawn of time and we are in the business of entertainment and mass entertainment content is consumed there in the cinema hall has become very wonderful during release time and these guys have the foot soldiers there to play have war with people who dont like to go individually an actor or an actress may want to take a stand and be but he will but then theres a collective interest of the tribe which is why hes around him or her that look good effects the entire unit or it does the project that accruals writing on it so i think that is really wonderful but the explosive side of this speaks for itself that these people are free to. To speak their minds even if you can be 2 different to what they are posturing after privately java that is pretty indisputable isnt it the bollywood with a few notable exceptions is now basically team modi. No i wanted a bit of action in it so many voices are missing but the fact is that it is the proof that is so hacky this kid do all the people are given to him he would difficult feat that he is and he can many are to his ideology on the air you get what you want to park you doing do good thing lynching is wonderful it should happen more often do they really think that norm and it did good thing then then why have you not seeing it there is a question why do you are not getting what your answer is if it lets get is it purely fear it fear beauty fear fear of losing their careers or fear of a worse than the fear of physical harm because all doth people dont. Refer to the i hate not them personally and i know what they think are you disappointed that that they seem to be hypocrites. Not you see you cant have people who become martyrs you know well if theyre dead too ok so let me put this to you after the government hosted a dinner for bollywood stars recently to explain why the citizenship amendment at this controversial act is a good thing to presumably so they could have these bollywood star actors influences messengers you were invited in you didnt go but a lot of people did go how do you push back against that when the government is a little active you lot of people dont go daughters who are publicly and actively supporting the present regime only did it so you have hope or not so you have hope that theres still a lot of people on your side to kind of resist government propaganda as it were known i dont think about using this as a definite miniscule hulu part of defense and haiti is involved in what is a skill here of india is one of the biggest hole or ill tell you how 1st of all. Haiti that area. He had a must. Have he that no country can clean it and it lucian or a good fortune. That so thank you because the prophet if it had happened believe me now let me also boast but youre one of indias best no directors you directed Something Like 15 films youre a household name jury went over the after that that the role of bollywood is exaggerated i mean right now in india you have a bunch of very hyper nationalistic movies being made very movies about the Indian Military about the Indian Nation a lot of people say the bollywood is producing movies which only boost the b j p s message what judge it is obvious saying if the movie is a change of issues this mission will have become a pattern that is by no dr to be suitable these are i would love to see the brain who follows me who spoke about a coup sister that said the pure energy that lit a fire today but yes they do contribute to create an illusion that are the major the major the steam is looming on the other side and thats what their limited purpose is but on the ground it think there are other more serious things which as dimeter decided the. Particular party would rule us for the americas for actors and actresses because have a very limited role to play in creating the ad the spooks. Agree. Given the full run version of history. Some of them did then and the box office some of them feel so again that could i gave you i have not read that they are given. What you know they would not but dead the fact is i must accept it is that everything. The theft from the version of right wing version of fish. So let me ask both of you this question given that youre saying that the Film Industry is producing films that seemed to boost the right wing version of what india should look like given youre both saying that some of your colleagues in the industry are afraid afraid to speak out given your both are saying that this government right now in india the Worlds Largest democracy is fascist what hope do you have for the future is there hope for india. Where the man lives in hope and dies or the hope and be so that a little where your book a few days ago in delhi i dont think that as long as the in the d. N. A. Of india those who are added to it and i dont think that you can reduce a mission as diverse as this to one another to if you try to impose just one another to on this nation. And i dont think any Political Party can do that in the run java after i have an unshakeable belief in indian concepts believed in india and even in india and we have not had you can get who is not sophisticated in modern terms if not of hes a sensible person even sensible people sometimes 53 up to a point but then they know that now yeah after if they come back and defend on top i think it is important because we are doing he and and the well done the paid into per book of history and by me. You get 200 years so the 10 year 15 year that not the end of the word this too shall pass java dr my host but on that note well have to leave it there thank you both so much for joining me on out front thank you thank you thank you very much thats our show us from will be back next week. The whole d. N. A. Of aljazeera is to deliver news of people who are subject to the citizens made by the pound but you must know how much you feel about will the general election in december the 12th or is old anything when you see big groups of people walking through your theyre all individuals with children the lowlifes of it but stores these places become a complete trust for poor and are simply nowhere to put all these people you have to deal with them to treat those who didnt see respect. Aljazeera. After. A war plane from the Saudi Led Coalition crashes in yemen the hoofy say that he shouted out. 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