coverage of the rest of the 2020 u.s. election. only just. tired for me ok and your in the stream today breck said it is finally here the indian flag has come down at the european parliament but in places like scotland where they voted 62 percent to stay in the e.u. and northern ireland where they voted 56 percent stay in the e.u. the departure for you paying union has sparked great interest in leaving the u.k. it is a show we will discuss whether could break up the united kingdom we want to know what you think your thoughts with us and our live chat. going to wave. in the future. if you disobey the rules you get cut off could you please remove the flag. you know. i. am really lays it down resume your seat put your flags away you're leaving and take them with you if you are leaving. in this memory mcginest their vice president of the european parliament disciplining breck said party any peace on january the 29th and 2 days later the u.k. officially left the european union begin a transition period until the end of the year to negotiate a new relationship the historic end to 47 years an e.u. membership was met with a range of feelings celebration mourning and a sense of anxiety for many u.k. citizens living in scotland and northern ireland places where the majority voted to remain in the new black sea has generated renewed interest in independence from the u.k. as some citizens say that london no longer represents their interests with us to talk about this any longer now does he or senior correspondent. in kabul north scotland james kelly author of the pro independence blog scott goes pop and in brussels alexander phillips a former member of european parliament for the brics a party i had to tell you as alex was watching that video there from the european pilot your smile was so wide you are enjoying every moment of that why alex what should be today how you feel about rex in the year good you know 13 years like campaign 2 it's worked for a lot of people it's a lot longer and the fact that we had a referendum and it took 3 years to actually implement the result it came as a huge relief but what was making me smile at. he was that would mind if i prickly the e.u.r. this is basically european union of member states they caught that the idea. it's a really bizarre thing and you know we had a lot of fun in that parliament we actually put a bit of democracy i'd like to debate it but change that for the 1st star and i think they're going to miss us so you are now coming the unemployed because you are former any pain and she with that in brussels last week what was the mood like from the europeans perspective oh they will stop caring about a lot of it go to see the 1000000 other things it's a worry about and you know think of think in a way you know it's like if you're their teacher a playground and you got some kids that are heaps in the bins on fire and there's some poor indigo wallace in russia. without these people in 47 use the u.k. has been in the european union the complaining about everything will tell him. it's you know i think i think it in a way that quite relieved the turning of the virtual ice ice and well look you know the last 3 years we've you know we have a trust issue closer together for the members that are meaning. you know it's actually there's a bit of good riddance and they're trying to be nice and single goings on and. this is alex but this is the the thinking there as well i think to some degree that it will go away the. i'm just looking at james at the defense team the way the alex thomas was not complex it down the way that you have mark in boxing day alex in all caps we are out yelling at our very happy and out as they were chatting down james and not looking too happy and you can work out why with everybody celebrating your mood today is what. well i haven't really changed my view since saturday i just thought it was bizarre i kept thinking back to 2004 when all of the eastern european countries celebrated coming into the e.u. and the reason they celebrate is because it brings rights it brings an individual rights it brings european status and so the right to live and work in any other european countries study brings economic prosperity and so there are people in the u.k. celebrating the self-inflicted wounds of taking all those rights away from ourselves crazy. yes no i mean look i actually if you're an east european country to form a satellite states a question your perception but it's interesting isn't it that your skepticism especially is on the rise in eastern european countries that actually they were also depended on the united kingdom to be the voice of fact it's because the direction of travel of the european union is one that is absolutely veering towards the governments of europe it's not a federal block they don't like member states they want one entirely consolidated government of europe and i did a very bizarre juxtaposition that a proud nation like scotland that has been campaigning where people like james become paying for independence would want to be subsumed into a block where they would be a tiny little parts that have very little democratic voice and abseil the juggernaut careering 2 or something that doesn't represent a democracy so all. so you can just you just have to say rich really quickly to sort to what's in it is it is true there's lots of lots of countries there's this antipathy towards the european union but there's an 80 country that's this remotely close to having a majority in favor of the thing i mean even in countries like italy was the of very rightly. so to say in the european union is about 75 percent the country with lotus support staying in the u.k. the czech republic actually was still above 70 percent in most places some of the 18000000 see so you know they don't like being in these countries they don't like the bureaucracy they don't like that the way in which financial guru forced on them but no the tools and the internet i think of i think a big part about it is of course you've got 17 countries financially locked in the european union because they became part of a single currency i think a lot of countries are sitting back and watching to see what happens with that and i think you've wrecked it is a success which i'm certain it will be i see no reason why it would be this cold fact how do you know it's going well listen what i think the discourse is fundamentally changing quite a bit so you set out a kind of what are going to we have today the last 3 and a half years of debate when we've done that and we're now in the brics a transition period what i did want to bring in though is what we're talking about today is the future of the union of the you can say is it after rests on bricks a day we spoke to and picked up some of the opinions from an overnight and i should say that northern ireland voted 56 percent to stay in the european union hasten ideals from the street about how they're feeling about blacks at. a lot of people in bad form with this because a lot of education on whether. by the end of year a lot of others a hard ball the resolve ball that we're leaving we're appealing it ain't against our will and the deal that's in place is only a temporary measure i think you should measure the real important stuff is happening this year the timing for the elections for island is on county now and what should we be expecting coming up for this weekend. well in the south in the republic of ireland even if it is the issues there aren't really super exit things to the housing crisis and health care and frankly that you know that the echoes of all the austerity that brussels and post on when the banks went ringback on several years ago i don't completely bend over for germany and so they would say voss and civil saraswati and put the devil the people there and the still suffering the consequences of all that now there's a terrible as it crosses in dublin where there is a sudden expense of the working class people having to move out of town completely so so since that that's the source of the issue that the shin fein are doing very well in the election in the south but that's because the reposition themselves as a sort of a left wing 11 populous policy the issue in northern ireland which is much more potent as this is over the nationalists it will be completely dead against bretz it but it was the unison loyalists who said they were supporting it until boris johnson decided that his version of the 17 different versions of bricks you can have is the genesis to a trade war down the r.c. and at that point the unit said no we're not we're not we're not taking this at all because it aligns their economy much more with us of the republic than when i was an adult for the election before christmas the loads of democratic in this party those who said they prefer to stay in the european union that than have the vote in the brics so that the concert is no no party or not in the sport for their inbred and that's a big problem for them actually it's almost a big problem as in scotland. i'm just think the. i think the irish general election regardless of what the issues are as far as words are concerned his bones are hot and impacts all in on the question of whether it will lead to lead to the breakup of the united kingdom because f. shen fein becomes the largest single party in the doorbell and potentially if they lead a coalition government which would have been unthinkable and sell it stream we recently got up to a border pull firmly on the agenda on the good friday agreement the irish government would have a say in that and if there's a board to pull in northern ireland then there's a reason realistic chance of a united ireland but in a few years not could have a knock on effect in scotland so i think what's happening in ireland is absolute fascinating alex is that both thinking that it may be of work for the union of the to break up was not part of the. this is i think actually very to follow pragmatic in that i think a lot of voters understand that we need to wait and see what circumstance the change is as a result. i'll tell you this we have to look i don't like what boris johnson has done in putting up or to die in the irish sea i completely fundamentally disagree with that i think even very cynical and tactical to use the idea of the good friday agreement or the hot border between the island to push their cause to try to make it stay in the customs union and i think the years of wretched but peddling by to reason may boris johnson always have no choice but to swallow this just to get it done using his campaigning slogan so we are in the situation we're in that it puts northern ireland in a peculiarly unique position which although i disagree with it could be economically to their advantage because they will be the middleman between the e.u. in the united kingdom that could well see a huge influx of investment into northern ireland and i would say actually you know let's give time's a manifest let's see what happens i think economically it's going to be a success as you'll notice that the bank recently has turned to the e.u. talking about it's a level playing field so the u.k. on its doorstep is not too competitive we had all of this old wrecked it's going to be a disaster and now the narrative is switched over oh my gosh we must make sure britain doesn't make a success of it because they go it but isn't it isn't it. isn't it to sing us a cause we don't we think yet. of course without you this now comes down to what the conservative government with a big majority choose to do because we've heard a lot general election. will get all of our fishing rights back you know he's talking the talk the question is is he going to walk the walk and the negotiations begin in earnest and botch there's a very short timescale about if there's going to be an extension to the transition period the house to have come do so alex take take take a pause alex because i want to bring in some people who argue paris well astro says you should ask the parks lady that is alex a former and we pay for the bricks a potty why should scotland have to ask permission from westminster and still call the e.u. democratic so i think what we're actually saying that in order for scotland to have a another referendum they have to ask for it from the from the government they have to have to ask permission. why why should thank. god i don't i don't like the law but that is the united kingdom stands as a nation together consolidated well a united kingdom before nations by all means but we have become we being a separate entity for centuries. did have a democratic votes in 24 scottish people said no i'm full referenda i'll vote for change change and what do you guys change that's something he said no not really on the specific basis i was promised by the no campaign in the referendum in 2014 that it would keep scotland and the european union we were told of voting for and i did not take it i like to hear opinion so it's not i don't need to read the whole basis upon which we voted against independence has gone and there was another moment basically it was i don't remember that the scottish referendum was anything to do you membership that was it we don't let's win it we want it so that was exactly he told me that we were independents that would take us out of the european union and we voted against it we would stay and and lightly are you know the shot which didn't end well to be an absolute tidy middle of a member state in the government if you're if you couldn't state you're just being a player like i was because like ireland which is. what can we have england speaking over scotland scotland go ahead. ireland has demonstrated the power that a small country has within the european union because the results are exceeded between the $27.00 countries scotland be far more powerful would be able to protect its power far better as a member state of the european union we have no power whatsoever within the u.k. our course is totally ignored we have tried to compromise with. you have a huge i think evolution i'm telling you that still because. they said this is really a little bit loud so let me bring in some more scottish voices this is from the 1st day of actually happening let's have a listen. it's a sad day for scotland there to be t.v. or dr as i would say of the ear. buds will be shocking. but we're 62 percent of the scottish people hoarded data mean. and will be against her beliefs and i just feel. that is a wrong move breaks is a wrong that was until i called it. by the detroit that i had to give up sales. now let me bring you back into the conversation hat i'm just looking on the cheap right now thermodynamics says boxing is still english the scots and irish where it is only a matter of time before they leave the u.k. have been covering this for such a long time what's your take on the. whether it's done in the boat that the police or the demographic you know. scotland's 5000000 know a lot of the wealth of the 3000000 england's whatever it is 50 something 1000000 primary bricks bricks it is an english run the british. think is that you know the problem i think it's going to alex making the bricks. this is the potential accusation of hypocrisy one of alex's former colleagues claire fox would only be as well they're very interesting article saying about the celebration of sorts when when the u.k. left and the people who are interested swordfish sport listen and see all of all nations big and small. explained they were scotland's concerned and you know the there is a child of course it's the maid against that equally i think i think it's probably also true that even though the polling sort of the lone statistic but potentially marginal majority for leaving you know to the idea the s.n.p. didn't want what i'm struck for them before it's become clear what direction actually looks like i think the s. and p. up to charges trying to force something through without it will be able to make a completely reasonable decision because plainly once once it becomes clear it is telling whether cities hold and are all sorts to war whatever it turns out to be then i think you know if it was called and said ok we really do want another referendum because there has been this much material change of the good the very unreasonable through and through houston. i agree with that and i just want to weigh in defense of my colleagues have got because she is a huge advocate of free speech yet she has her think tank all about the freedom of speech and i don't think in any way shape or form and i did say that he cut the largest most repeated night record so putting that to one side scotland has had recommended in 24th you know look i agree with you if materially the changes after practice it's not suitable to scotland if scotland and say we wanted dependence now we've seen the consequences of this decision that was taken by the u.k. and the u.k. joined as a conference it's ok we have to leave as a competent doctor is just the way it works but it's got intense and it you know 5 years and says let's have this process it's have another referendum i would fully support but i believe in democracy i believe the power should be closer to people let me just bring in a way i was into this conversation wales voted about 20 percent 29 percent. to. devoted never really to leave. early may seem like a slight and i think it's mining by in fact i know it's recently to my mind i was a sticking say so i mean let me. let me let me show you let me show you the map so we can see what we're talking about here so this is talking about the 2016 and the areas isn't in the orange of the places where people wanted to remain in the united kingdom and wales is just there on the left hand side a little bit up from the. from from the english channel and then you can see well and 52 percent wanted actually to leave but i also want to share with you one of the campaigns that is actually looking to see if this actually might be possible this is sean john prince he is from the chair of the u.s. come way and this is what he has to say about wales and the independence movement have a look u.k. is going through from a lot of people who is trying to do it the possibility that you won't exist in a few years time. and people know it's support vote for independence that's a huge change in who is from starting from basically standing start a few years ago westminster. true is 160 is the g.d.p. was out of greece today there's a perfect g.d.p. is 4 times bigger with its independence is only going to depend as to focus on things as. i'm just wanting the practicalities of the independence movements that were once quite fringe and now becoming quite popular people speaking about them quite openly like that you want to support this you spent so much of your career working to have happen i laughing but this is our incredible i don't know it's pretty serious. no i spent a lot of my career working in wales both as a journalist and in politics and what i'm going to tell you is there is very little . independence in wales there's not even. devaluation in wales and this idea that all of a sudden like a meal in a box of whales what's independence just for the birds that is not what any sort of polling suggests actual i am actually still keeping the united kingdom together of course i am but i'm a democrat and i believe in referenda and like i said the referendum because we joined we had to leave as united kingdom let's see how it plays out i believe it's going to be a fantastic success i actually gave a fantastic success to scotland as well as i do you know that i like but if it isn't likely what i should miss james chuckling in my ear then look democracy let's go for it you're no theo will be going to brussels by the way all your fish will be gone to brussels and not even going so you know the governments of europe. and i would have had a chance. no i just always keep saying that you came in and that's a unitary state i had to leave the industry it was not the case it's all you know if you look at these things what i said then you know it will be one of the band markets as only you there are 3 component parts of denmark 2 of them are not in the e.u. that barrow i don't think remember not an e.u. so you know if you go back to 20 sec team a lot of people made the point it was carefully possible risk of 1000 northern ireland to either remain in the u. as part of the u.k. or shoot at least remain in the single market and customs union as part u.k. that would impair fully possible that well i've been there on the u.k. site is the u.k. intransigence is meet the things that are possible and ironically that hard line british nationalism and such that it can be no deal otherwise in the u.k. why deal apart from northern ireland of course scotland doesn't gain a preferential the other northern ireland is getting its hard line based nationalism that ironically that probably well kelle the u.k. now as i just remember about a year ago you did a report and it was about people getting ready for breakfast i remember one woman in particular she's right here on my laptop she's gulf food supply she is ready for proxy we are in the present transition period and i was just looking to see what's the u.k. government saying about it and if a silly nothing's going to be different between now and the end of the here it's going to be exactly the same as it was before breakfast today can you kind of work as our one path for us what the next 11 months are going to be a lot what's going to happen here you see this is this is a this well it's just you know this is the big deceit. system going to talk about something else starts each year the actual acts of leaving the european union is seen as these are obviously very important psychologically for the book it is entirely unclear what brics it's going to be just just yet because. according to the great minister of the you know they're going to get a deal by the end here and if they do get a deal by the end of the year that doesn't matter because they'll do wander off and do deals with tender into the also whatever exists. and it's incredibly open and play to the idea the idea they could do a trade deal with the united states it is actually that will trump the 1000000 other things to think. that that is absolute rubbish so you know that it's a thing what they're trying to do the moment he sees he's trying to get everybody to think about something else completely acceptable so sick of bricks it and then claim that it's finished when when we win plainly it's not all. you know but all of the problems that they're all that you know who did the sins of the day about whether scott was going to go no longer might go all the products of the facts of the deal that boris johnson did but which of the trades the water down the other city big because it cuts through in the gulf and as you know who might potentially give north london specially status which of us going to say well what about us you know it's this is it in belfast and in less than d. scotland which is 75 percent improvement and this is sort of the brics it's got disaster all over. now as a thank you for joining us james kelly thank you alexandra thank you very much for joining us reveal a very. specific things about where we are in terms of price set right now and we will not be for this transition period until the very end of the shit i show you talk about because i get on the strain but for now i'm wrapping outflanking fail you change comments thank you for joining us see you next time. so i break on al-jazeera. and make tension with the u.s. and protests over a plane downing iran's hanum entry election will be held on february 21st the taste of syria explores the fate of india's religious minorities on the prime 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