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For capello you know we meet with newsmakers and talk about the stories that matter. I mean ok and you know in the stream today in india will mass protest stop the countrys controversial new citizenship law we will take a look at the debate surrounding the citizenship Amendment Act you can be part of the conversation as well where on twitter at 8 a stream and streaming live on. I am an actor writer and activist but most importantly a human voice and you are in the street. Protests across india are continuing their fight against a new citizenship law that excludes muslim immigrants and stuck in fear of break to add the muslim discrimination in the country to citizenship a member at pass parliament in december and wants no muslim immigrants from pakistan afghanistan and bangladesh a quick apostle a toward citizenship because a lot benefits only people certain religions protesters say it goes against india secular constitution. We are protesting because this law divides the country on the basis of religion the tradition of our country has been unity in diversity india is not just a hindu nation india is made up of different communities. Over the weekend hundreds of thousands marched in hyderabad and in other cities across india one protest was met with clashes that injured up to 30 students at a Prominent University in new delhi so what kind of impact will Massive Public outcry have if any with us to talk about this in new delhi i should read out a protester a student at Indias National Islamic University in hyderabad a sad day in a way see a member of Indias Parliament and in Miami Florida to care tana a lawyer after school commentator its good to see you everybody i want to start with a little flavor of what its like to be online theres so much support in terms of social media going against various different perspectives on the citizen Amendment Act give you a little flavor here grandma protesting the hash tag c a a underscore n r c protests let me just give you a little bit of grandma in the streets here. Just to be clear this protest is against this is an Amendment Act i mean if you love a little sample here this hash tag see a protest 15 year old janay destroyed 9 vehicles during these protests is motherboard he has been served notice to recover damages and she has no money or property and im not sure about this bit about how she is going to raise the money but well move on we give you one more example and this is poetry for the people again it gets a citizen a member an act. The audience or absent of obviously rapid attention here enjoying the poetry talita chaos this is not unusual poetry in the streets people protesting and they are doing so with great fervor when you see this against a citizen a member that has already happened its already illegal what is your reaction how do you explain this to the world this is not just isolated bits of social media that im showing people in india a genuinely concerned about this or not. Well i think i the issue with the protest is that im sorry to say it results from a misunderstanding of the law and im also sorry to say that not a lot of people who started the protest actually have read the law the law is being touted as anti muslim but let lets look at the law lets look at the situation as it were if these laws were and if this law wasnt passed whats the right of a muslim non indian who is an immigrant in india if hes a legal immigrant he can say under the rules of his visa if hes an Illegal Immigrants and its divided into 2 sections one is. Someone who is fleeing persecution on any grounds likely city religion etc that person under the government policy can continue to get whats called a long term visa which is a refugee policy of the government of india and thats illegal immigrant who is just an economic migrant who is coming to india for such a better life would obviously is liable to be deported theres no refugee policy for him theres no policy that protects him what does the citizenship Amendment Act do does it render this muslim non indian that i know i want to go i want to be sentenced a consequence again you have to be in stopping by telling them the people who was there dressing in the space x. Men i made up the ass of north of it off the bill i was shot and not being able to grab his today and i guess at the same price i will tell you i was with the one of the students or was that indeed i have seen and i have rang the people i have spoke to the people all over the in the i dont really want to have that and i dont understand everything regarding this the hate all of the states is being its not big and how to say the signing what and whats new and thats why i dont know why but yet he said everyone including everyone as community and the law doesnt understand that being the odd little mark all read all that its not willful big ideology its the be the Big Government somebody needs to say from the information or whether they are signing for. The big b. But i did indeed on the basis that really the president of the people all over the screen but again i dont want to our viewers are you my good being so then youre not a veteran character here and that and i shall hold tight for one moment so im just going to catch everybody up is i mean the outside of india so they really do appreciate why this is such a fierce debate so as cut to k. I was explaining this is an Immigration Law it impacts foreign refugees from neighboring countries it particularly impacts people of different names the face but nobody included in those faves where they form refugees can get accelerated immigration status none of them are muslim it doesnt name any muslims which is why im sure saying this is a summer phobic i should as you were speaking to care come back in just a moment as you were speaking we were seeing huge protests from just this weekend in hyderabad why are people out on the streets in such numbers i show you go ahead. People had there and they were clearly and the audience what does the actors all about i have to say a bit see it it should not be and a lot is not it cannot be understanding alone it could be connected with and not be connected with n. P. R. Benami b. And c. But in great bargain that one of the intensity in the its not its not my poor big genocide going to happen in india the people who have understand that people have got everything for them people have yet and i like her over that back thats why the people that coming in but not that they are coming in the street in the mosque number this is that theyve been freedom fired back happening in india this is what i would expect stared back as might meet with her or no one but you know especially in the university if you have seen that how do believe the quality of attacking the b student in the you know i did how the police have been at bad the people in their people in you would be you that what the british people how brutally they were bad bad if you think me in the chain you know im a good muslim and i was the day my big you know new god theyre going the people who are into gear go to our Community Norm and a lot of the barbers the are getting the people who are educating people oh i didnt see it again. So here are even beyond what theyre happening in the up at structured races from week to ease why should i shy again im going to ask you just to slow down just a little bit so everybody can hear what youre saying and understand what youre saying because you have been involved in these protests since the beginning of the south got to go ahead go ahead yes the only question i want to show is that this law citizenship amendment if the really the goal of the government was to make this a hindu state or a new nation as if shes alleging why would christians why would parsis which is a restaurant you know originating from iran several years or several hundreds of years ago why would they be included in the law and the reason is that this law is about religious persecution that minorities suffer in 3 may bring countries and let me tell you very specifically all constitutions of the. These 3 countries specify islam to be the state religion now how can you potentially argue that morris lim said you know the our country iran iraq and iraq are my refuge to protect. Him or made it through i love how can. I are refugees and theyre fleeing religious persecution is like a case of pushing back and saying its no islamophobia sat there going out join us join us a 2nd i had. No with mr carter good or did it deliberately misleading your viewers. The basic structure of the india because you should and know more about this movie government id dominic and wally the basic structure of the constitution. Please understand that i dont know that it is sort of the ship i dont know the state of us out. In the state i saw. 1. 9000000 people loons that explored it is that it p. J. Finance minister abbas who says he only said that the 500000 or bengali tindalls visit be given citizenship india citizenship and does it i dont act the 500000 muslims bengali muslims who have been excluded or must stop but a lot of it is it is shared then it says are just committee such as these are just after the for the 2nd sabbath the sabbath i want to listen and then lead them to raise and lower economic analysts the fact that nothing i do not included in the systematic that is that is the problem so the people who have passed let me just telling it has it all because no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no please the problem of it the problem is you dont government has why noted the constitution of india you cannot make laws to the best of religion laws have to get it yes yes you can the constitution i think you have got to be at least of it because if youre going to talk about that acting social wrongs in article 15. 16 differentiate between dollars well a little bit of india out and you cannot make base of the footage of the base of religion that i did like we say that you are changing the girl it is on the day i was if youre just going to beat this country cannot become pakistan this country would not become bangladesh this country would definitely not become about this time and as an indian design i dont care about whats happening in pakistan bangladesh or not but it is not because understand that you cannot why did my constitution you cannot take away that you cannot make laws the basis of religion because the end result would be this country would become a chaotic country so yes i think if i like it or not i would i want to bring in some other voices. That aside if i may i want to bring in some other voices into this conversation this could be a legal or policy conversation but it goes beyond this because people are being killed people being beaten and there is violence amongst the protestors i want you to have a listen to seraphine arayan can laugh and shes a senior lecturer at the university of cambridge from her perspective this is what the protests are about have a listen have a look at the opposite ends of as a refugee no but it is not the law in fact introduces a stratified notion of citizenship in which privileges of religion and in need of class determine political but the law in this sense runs contrary to the commitments to equality and nondiscrimination that are provided in the Indian Constitution it is contrary to preamble of values of a secular and socialist republic and it is also what noting in the past few days as protesters have tried to invoke these Constitutional Values they have been met with very high intensity high scale violence from the state which is particularly targeted at muslim areas and universities. So im also just looking here at what the j. P. Is saying hand theyre talking about spread facts not myth you can have a look here on my laptop and they are talking about people just just not understanding the citizen. Amendments act and theyre putting out the information here to case youre saying exactly but want to sing says happening is why a people being beaten why Police Beating protesters why is that violence amongst this protest if its just a question of facts and educating the public why is there violence while people being killed because for me everyone in the nation has seen how buses public property have been torched by protesters we have no there india is no issue and cannot have any of you know what i look so dont see i know i shot you and i resent you i dont have anything and countless lining them because mostly i dont think they are any of mine what about all the nobody i am like i am a big magnet for energy but i just i dont need a good look at themselves about. Me to not appear you know yes it is really crazy that youre not all on the same page about that which is great because thats why we invited you to be on the stream but very simply just to me very simply why are people being beaten why is there violence if its just a question of facts and showing the facts for the Public Confidence briefly its absolutely possible that in individual instances the police may have committed some excess and actually i mean theres no im not going to deny that im not may have a full refund be offered may have you not such a balance id like you had 0 and if we dont do a full story a week in the middle of genocide we dont often see. Young stewart in a job maybe yeah i was reading in the library and i live stream just as gump let me write a letter we really got i think it was even if the law says i was and peter did come on you know what are you talking a little bit more than i did to get it but at least im going to let you know when you reflect ive met a protest that happened in the police was trying to maintain law and order something. Under the old executive there is. No you know i dont know how long i guess im just going to ask you just to put off for a moment guess im going to ask you to pause for a moment this is overseeing a very very important topic for you because your voice is a being raised here i show why is there violence explain to us why from your perspective as a perspective as a protester whose experience fight its why is there violence. You know why have these bad viral video everywhere going everywhere that we dont have a gun or it could have been why dont you know me better father every day from dr hamilton i think im going to you are going to ask you to talk me through this video because im going to show it for you this is the headline that we showed to our audience is on now to see what a calm indias jimmy a women who took on delhi police in viral video so this goes back to early december in a sentence tell us where you were what you were doing and then im going to play the video so you just set it up in a sentence i should go ahead what happened to the business were going all beat in bed to be have been blocked or someone you either do not you think buy the game seems to be dont want to make a buy lend or bet the biggest or god forbid begin to leak in a national id its also not at all not at the national i read the. Group or lead toward the broadcasters and a bad parent might then be led by the woman that you had all over the you know im going to be looking to be you and one of my very lucky that had my big problems the receiver had the courtyard open house in order to you were at large of my shotgun going to my other video now only at bat im going to play the video because the pictures of worth a 1000 words is the that saying goes to let me just show you a little im going. To here we have a protest this season. Going ok makes a good point you do not know the situation do you know how they start but you do see. And see the scene and theyre actors and the stakes and. And look look i show look i show what shes doing shes when the red red skull off here and shes. Laughing i like that finger wagging went viral. And if the women had not been there who knows what happened to the gentleman on the floor ok lets move on this that there is a he said she said all they said they said theyre going to say here but that there are genuine fears aside that some think that this idea of the citizen Amendment Act that theres Something Else that is going to happen after this that it might escalate one of the fields that are driving people onto the street for the a making people like a case and you dont understand the facts what are the fears can you articulate them for me. Yes the government intends to do now still going to subsidize the. Home minister used and said in the parliament what it is and how to see because youre going to see it as it is the same site of one client and yet i dont see both of them ought to be done under citizenship act of 155. 00 the national they want to stay out of citizens and then also have a National Party have just me they dont exist off yet as you know concerned that they may well exist for the honing exactly right the government thats clearly said that and then to do they have the guy would be speaking different voices theyre going to use of people who believe he was those and beyond is done and for example if my name is excluded i had im off to produce documents i havent got sequestered dont put citizen and he wont get a good object to my inclusion and as an indian citizen this yes yes seen in the state of asala i did beat up here in the state of asada 500000 muslims theyve exploded 500000 bengali including her picture of god when this discriminatory law wants to give citizenship to those 500000 bengali hindus that it is said to this committee how can i call my probably right in case he would get lost cannot pay what Prime Minister modi said about peoples feelings about this could escalate and you could end up with a National Registration like history of citizens this is what he sounds to that charge have an awesome man is kind of ironic about it but i got to tell you that the odds that after my government came into power since 2014 i would like to tell the people in india that nowhere has an r. C. Been discussed there has been no talk of it because of the Supreme Courts direction we had to go through that and what are you the opposition talking about lies are being spread i think im going to have got it up and i. I see youve been protesting for so you know its my right and youve put yourself in danger and im going to just leave that as as thats what Prime Minister modis pushbike case the people who are worried about the escalation from the c. A. A. I sure youve been out there youve faced. Being in a very risky situation why are you doing it what is at stake for you then since. Then if you are bored at being against mr davis then rebuild be completely excluded from the confusion in the bodyboarding game all of the Muslim Community every larkham that you know how do you do usually exclude and when there is a member that see it coming we are being called to do it in the excluded we are some sulking but not for a longer know you are an old indian what it is certainly does not apply to them and i think that the lot of course you would walk again i think that youd have to say you know a lot of you know i did i mean you know. Why do people dont you know what is the law do you know you doesnt it sometimes i would. Not be an american im going to have the Good Shepherd does it doesnt represent a threat if i do i didnt i should i shut and aside complicate the consequence color casing is that see this ca it doesnt apply to you you saying it doesnt apply to you youre not a 4 refugee it doesnt apply to me i pay you just one more thing because obviously we are not going to come to agreement in this conversation thats not going to have a but i want to share with you the way forward and maybe the way forward is 5 the courts i want you to have a listen to this assistant professor we spoke to him a little bit earlier and this is what he shared with us about the way forward might be is deciding is the citizen. Is to see a isnt constitutional even have a listen. And there at all of the high court on these protests have been mixed by some typos notably those of well i have spotty should office of in the but shot in the internet battles and pleased to be detained by the high court like the one in delhi have postponed hearings and that question spending. One thing is very clear there are very High Expectations of the Supreme Court that it is just. Its both started by a new unanimous amongst lawyers and legal academics about basic unconstitutionality of the act and for the 1st time i think since independence the constitution is being sort of debated and discussed on the streets across india and the hope the court rises to the challenge. Response with could see. I think i meant at least i had that so i dont want to ask only want to ask mr o. Is he one thing here earlier said that you know the law cannot violate on basis of this cannot discriminate on basis of religion he must be aware that there is minority scholarships in india that give scholarships to students who specifically belong to this Christians Jan muslims sikhs and parsi communities it does not give scholarship to hindus how is that law legal the court the Supreme Court the high courts have held that law to be legal why doesnt it discriminate on the basis of religion the reason why its constitutional is because its a positive discrimination yes the difference it does not render the hindu any worse off than what it would have been if none of this existed similarly the ca does not render the Indian Muslim or even muslim migrants any worse off the only thing that it does is it recognises that in 3 islamic states where islam is the state religion in the constitution there are 6 religions who are persecuted on religious grounds they are minorities according to the laws and according to the constitutions of those countries and this law ca gives them citizenship it has nothing to do with indians it actually give citizenship to someone who was not an india and in regards to the us some n r c a some an r. C. It was created out of a very specific situation a very specific set of circumstances because of the d creation of bangladesh in 971 a lot of people migrated from bangladesh which was then created from east pakistan into some and are some the local assamese population did not want all this influx of migrants and they protested very violently 6 very heavily because of which and a some accord a treaty was signed and by the way everything that has happened under us and r. C. Has had the endorsement of the Supreme Court of india the government if even if it doesnt take a of yourself as i am just going to underscore im just going to pursue vapid out here because you can have a consistent in your argument i. E. Youve got the facts wrong you are misinformed actually let me just try it that i should just for closing thought her and very very briefly do you. Are you confident that the courts in india have a Supreme Court might be have to sort out this question. Like me i am very much confidence that everyone or the old guard did well and in place about using all would this be all over the board does this good thing for the audio hole be audited now and you know what that they hold that Supreme Court will be acting against the im going if you wish and i know i shut off by the media Big Government i shall thank you so much for bringing us the protest us perspective aside and cuts a k a we really appreciate you being hailed the strain thats all the time we have thanks to watching c. N. N. Does not tell. A compelling film about getting an education under occupation. That is once the been of the looked at it asked us if you dont feel sick you would dump tom frankly we dont feel secure but we come. But what happened after the cameras left rewind learning to die on aljazeera. 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