Transcripts For ALJAZ Pre-Crime 20240713

Logical what 1st ending the presence of Foreign Forces as an emergency measure and making arrangements for that secondly to go back to the draft decision that was put forward to the parliament before the current government took office. But all kurdish representatives boycotted the session and most of the sunni m. P. s were in there the emergency session of parliament is a reminder of the deep ethnic and sectarian divisions in iraq being so nice shias and kurds at least one commander of the. Group has said that if the Parliament Fails to cause a decisive resolution against the u. S. Presence in iraq on sunday all future sessions will be worthless. A powerful cleric who heads one of the leading blocs in parliament criticized the decision as a weak one so theyre called for the shutting down of the u. S. Embassy on socalled resistant groups inside and outside iraq to form urgency battalions similar sentiments were echoed by other shia majority political blocs. This is a real test for loyalty and patriotism we dont want to disappoint iraqis as their elected representatives if this council cannot protect sovereignty its useless. Not everyone agrees with a quick pullout of corelation troops and these protesters carried out an anti iran rally they clash with pro iran supporters a similar sentiment runs through Anti Corruption protesters who forced out of the as the Prime Minister the iraqi pm says legal procedures will begin to fulfill the parliament nonbinding resolution but he leads an interim government with limited powers. Its a resolution not a law if its really binding iraq will be exposed in front of us all americans helped iraq there are a lot of problems for the economy as well. Even if lawmakers could all come together and vote to end the u. S. Presence in iraq immediately that process would take more than a few months to implement on the ground time with groups out for revenge do not want to give u. S. Forces on the job a down to 0 like that. Meanwhile calls for revenge are growing louder as hundreds of thousands of people gather in the iranian capital to welcome home some somalis body these live pictures show the procession in tehran 3 days of mourning have been declared for silly mahdi his remains were buried in his hometown on tuesday. And iran says it suspended its commitments to the 2050 nuclear deal saying no limits on its capacity to enrich uranium germany france and the u. K. Are urging it to reconsider. In other news a u. S. Soldier and 2 American Defense contractors have been killed by al shabaab fighters who stormed a military base in kenya the Group Released these pictures which it says shows the pre dont attack in lamu county friendship type as announced that turkish soldiers are being deployed to libya to help in the fight against warlord. Libyas u. N. But government declared 3 days of mourning for the victims of saturdays airstrike on a military academy in tripoli which is count up by forces loyal to. Firefighters are getting some relief as they battle hundreds of bushfires across australia after weeks of very hot weather cooler temperatures and some rain hoping crews bring more fires under control theyre working to reopen block roads and evacuate residents whove been trapped for days. At a chaotic scenes inside an outside Venezuelas National Assembly after Opposition Leader and his allies were blocked from entering the building by the police those who were allowed in boats to replace with a politician was recently kicked out of an Opposition Party for alleged corruption well those are the headlines and he continues here on aljazeera after a precrime station watching. And the term free crime comes from this movie a minority report in which a prediction is being made about something in the individual has not yet done but is going to do and a preemptive arrest is made of someone before they performed an act. If you would have asked me 37 years ago if we would have gunshot detection or video cameras in neighborhoods or be able to predict where crimes occurred i would have said youre crazy. Claiming to us a future of the future is already in the present right now its the securitize ation of fossil sciences. I have no idea what the next 5 or 10 years is going to be into Law Enforcement terms of technology advancement. Just look in a world weve come so far its going to be mind boggling. Can we predict an actual crime. And i meant just before it occurred to. Our strategic subject list called the s s l is a system that we worked with a professor from the Illinois Institute of technology an academic partner here in chicago to be able to assess and analyze those people that are at the greatest risk of being a party to violence this system is able to prioritize and tell us those individuals that we really have to focus on the work with to try to prevent that violence when you have so many different data sets or you have so many cameras watch which ones do we watch social media right so many Different Social Media communications out there how do you know what the concentrate on thats what our predictive aspect towards is for teaching subject list thats what i thought. When i heard of this story for the 1st time i thought now its finally happening hollywood has eventually merged with real life. Software that predicts where and when the next crime occurs police without arrive at the crime scene before the perpetrator computers that generate lists with tomorrows murderers. Precrime they call it. A friend writes to me theres something foreign looming on the horizon and we can only guess that a question a person tired one day. They experimented with a with a little bit in 20122013 is really when it took off they came the Police Department came up with. More than 400 names of people who fit that bill. Individuals who are most likely to be prone to violence and either as a victim or perpetrator each of the 22 Police Districts came up with 20 names and they were chosen i dont know the science of it but it was all through mathematical algorithms basically and it didnt have anything to do so much with them being hardened criminals as much as it had to do with who are they arrested with. Mr makes no difference ties im commander west and im with the 15th it is commonplace to fire me. May we come in. Like take Robert Mcdaniel for example he was not a hardened criminal he had been arrested for many minor offenses like gambling shooting dice or smoking marijuana minor offenses but the people who he was arrested with during those crimes some of them or at least one of them was a victim of violence so the logic was that while robber belongs on the list because he has a relationship with somebody. Whos been a victim of violence because hes been arrested with that person before. It was an employee. A School Dropout it was either both get work or see a drugs in the street and sell in june 1 from. My so trying to get my ged that in. And in the midst of me trying to get my z. Started giving falling home and started. Having Police Officers walk up on me ratable me sam on a government aim where i have been in like just days like this there. I am is over so wes and a social worker actually removed his name but they had stopped in my home they stop at my house in some pain and told me that i was put to some type of test this and i was supposed to be. Thank you i know to see you are bringing us of live pictures from in side and juan weve been watching in the last 10 minutes or so irans Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khomeini leading prayers in the funeral of general suing him on of course the 2nd of 3 days of mourning when weve been seeing people all over the country as the generals body has moved around and allowed people to pay their respects so again these live pictures that were seeing are prayers and weve seen sort of manis body move around the country we know that eventually later of course to morrow he will be interned in his home but these are the pictures of the people of iran coming out to pay their respects to a man who was divisive of course across the world but in iran itself an incredibly meaningful person we will bring you the pictures of come any sending over the the body and praying for this man who means so much to so many arabians we heard one lady earlier today talking very emotion the about how personally the people of iran have taken this attack and as you can see there theyre literally is a sea of people in irans capital packing the streets were going to be able to talk to our correspondent dorsetshire bari whos going to be able to give us some more context about just how important this moment is for a country that is fully in mourning doris i dont know if you are with me yet shes going to be with us in a 2nd but as i say later were going to see him being taken to his home city where of course the streets are expected to be again filled with people interesting lee the talk is still very much the toll rather is one of revenge weve heard from the daughter of commander soon the money and she said that she still wants to see the government take. Forceful action and that is still very much the feeling across the streets of iran lets bring you some pictures weve seen very many officials meeting with general so the mollies family this is the pictures that we have from slightly earlier today of his daughter and she said that courting year crazy trum should not think her fathers death means everything is over and that feeling of anger and shock is still percolating across the entire country our correspondents have been out in the streets talking to people and the feeling really still is i think one of shots of shock even 2 or 3 days later and she is talking to the nation i think and reflecting this feeling that something has to be done in response of course there are complex diplomatic pictures going on in the back and talking to lots of diplomats globally from around the world trying to get a handle on what is a Global Crisis we heard from mousavi the arabian foreign minister yesterday who spoke about many countries making approaches to iran trying to figure out how to get a handle on this enormous crisis potentially regionally in the middle east but also globally and of course in the u. S. Were hearing comment very much along partisan lines about whats the American Public and potentially politicians should be doing to which out and talk to iran but of course the political toll may be one of diplomacy and rhetoric but on the streets of tehran these pictures that were seeing right now its very much a feeling of i think acute sadness or 3 days of mourning have been declared of course from solem. And his remains will be interned in his hometown on shoes day we have just seen in these past few minutes Supreme Leader common a and president has done rouhani and the speaker also of the Parliament Larijani praying over these body and weve seen a number of politicians of prominent figures coming out onto the streets mingling with the public again the feeling very much being one of expecting some sort of political perhaps even military response although we dont know exactly what that will look like for some of our viewers watching around the world i know that our correspondents have been trying to give a flavor of just why this man has inspired so much a following and of course he is a major part or was a major part of Irans National Security architecture so of course when he was killed in a targeted killing that has made people feel shocked vulnerable and incredibly upset and of course they come out on to the streets to show that as you can see that sea of people moving down the street there in tehran the other interesting thing is just how much this is targeted killings have brought the iranian public to gether it wasnt that long ago that we saw protests on the streets of iran but now there is this feeling of i think National Solidarity lets just have a listen and soak up some of the atmosphere. A. Kind of joy. Dosage of joins me now live from tehran so door so some incredibly poignant moments im just watching the live pictures here of a console him see of will and of course weve seen the. Very personal i can only imagine prayers happening this morning. Yes certainly there is scenes that nobody really expected to see in the capital this morning millions have come out to show their respect and say good bye to. Me a man they say is the father of iran and one of the Founding Fathers really we just saw this Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khomeini perform at the Prayer Service over his coffin he was standing next to him was the president has ronnie as well as the speaker of parliament other larijani as well as the head of the revolutionary guards Brigadier General salim me on his left we saw the head of the countrys judiciary you see a very important figure in the Islamic Republic and next to him was. The new head of the force. Appointed to replace the late general hossam saleh money on friday that we saw was a very very emotional Supreme Leader something we dont see very often as well as a very emotional head of the countrys judiciary ebrahim you see there was there was very very intense emotions on this play by the highest ranking officials in the Islamic Republic alongside the Supreme Leader where the ceremony was taking place at Tehran University just a short while ago and i think its extremely interesting to see as you see outpouring of emotion across iran i remember you saying yesterday that so many people had in fact that actually general so the moneys body was delayed in several places how do we explain to our viewers around the world why the perceptions of mourning that we are seeing are so intense and that. Level of a state you know. If its because the name him so that money was synonymous with the Islamic Republic for decades really he was one of the people who fought for the revolution the Islamic Revolution of 1979 alongside the likes of the now Supreme Leader and president Hassan Rouhani so these men have known each other for over 4 decades and also his service during the iran iraq war between 1981988 theres stories and tales if you will of his heroism on the battlefields theres a very famous story about him in battle when he was shot in the abdomen when he was fighting in the south of iran against Saddam Hussein and his forces and he was taken to the hospital where he was operated on and as soon as the operation was over he demanded to be released and he walked out of the hospital and back on to the battlefield so its these kinds of stories and then recent in recent years his work in syria and iraq and the videos that weve seen come out from the battlefield the way he deals with soldiers there there is this sense of heroism thats been built around this figure also because hes very very he was a very quiet and private person he didnt give a lot of interviews he didnt like a lot of fanfare even his funeral his burial place to be tomorrow on tuesday in his hometown of care man according to his own wishes is to be in a very very simple plaque at a cemetery alongside other marchers as hes requested to be buried without any fanfare or large monuments on his grave its these kinds of stories and his personality that really elevated him to the status that he is now and also the main point is the way he was killed the issue is he was assassinated by. One of the longest and most Hostile Forces for iranians that is the American Government carried out this is. Again money so the iranians are very very angry at the way he was killed i think they feel that there was this is a very very unjust act that was carried out were already hearing stories of him his death being compared to that of. Various moms in share religion how they were unjustly killed and this is a very important point for the ideology of shia muslims especially iranians and i think his death is a perfect example of that sentiment that she has carried with them of being victims and being victimized i think this is the extreme example of that very ideology and dorsay yesterday we saw the Iranian Foreign minister starts to give us some idea of what a political response might look like and of course weve heard from members of the iranian public today still extremely wrong and emotional with very strong thoughts about what the government should do next. Certainly and also interesting to point out that the late general the moneys daughter also spoke briefly at the Funeral Service this morning she was also very emotional she read a very lengthy poem about her father and his work and his commitment to the Islamic Revolution and shes very shes been very vocal about the fact that she wants revenge for her fathers death and so do millions of iranians at this point. They want some kind of a response from their government they want some kind of action weve heard from very high ranking officials including the defense minister and senior advisors to the Supreme Leader who have all said that there will be a just response there will be an avenge his death will be avenged route. We are expecting some kind of retaliation but the president has said that it may not happen today or tomorrow but in the days and weeks and months to come it is very very likely that iran will have a very strong reaction there was emergency meetings held since friday between various Different Military apparatuses about what to do next and it is a very very critical time theres been a plethora of diplomatic activity around iran and various officials here we saw the Qatari Foreign minister who came to tehran on saturday so theres been a number of contacts made to the foreign minister zarif as well from a number of European Countries who are very concerned and rightfully so there is a lot of anger and the reigning public is demanding that their government do something in response but i think the initial shock and anger is going to wear off soon and i think there will be some serious thought given as to where this will leave iran and its relationship with the Diplomatic Community because this event has certainly changed the course of iranian history and also many analysts here believe the course of history in the middle east and door so we have seen and i think its no exaggeration to see to say that its been really a sea of mourners hasnt it over yesterday and of course today what are we going to see through the rest of today and into to morrow when his body her heads to be interned in this. Were expecting once the mourners today in the capital have had a chance to pay their respects the body will make its way to the holy city of form which is just outside of tehran there the people there will be also able to pay their respects then from his body will be flown out to care mon in central iran that is hospital in manis hometown and that the burial will take place on tuesday. Were expecting that to be an extraordinary event as well because the hometown of us and so the money is where he is of course most popular and we can already see from the scenes that weve seen over the past 24 hours hes been extremely popular all over the country people have come out everywhere you go i was in yes that is the number of people that came out was just the song and also people sentiments there i think is an indication of what we can expect really of the scenes that were going to see in his hometown in care man on tuesday and doris so when these targeted killings happened i remember having a conversation about whether this event would be an opportunity for 2 iranians to come together to see unify is that the feeling that you bet. Absolutely prior to this there was a lot of divisions there was a protest even if you recall in november the president increased fuel prices and had a very very severe reaction from the population there was divisions the reason dozens hundreds killed as a result of those protests that were suppressed very quickly by various apparatuses in the country i think this has actually turned everything around inside the country where there were divisions there is no longer were there was disputes there was there was no longer at least for the time being i think this has really been a turning point in the countrys history where people that even if they dont like the government or they have issues with the system itself they dont really see that as a as enough of a factor to divide them when it comes to their money he was a very very unifying figure in iran there are posters of him now across every Street Corner its a Public Holiday today for people to. Pay their respects to him in the capital theres been an airport named after him in the Southern City of was there is a street named after him now in tehran so this figure will forever go down in the history books of this country as one of the most important and influential figures many people not only saw him as a general but as a figure who united the country and thats because people say that he was a very just man he was a very pious and religious man and a very very Strategic Military commander as well so all this has put together a figure that really brings the country together and his death will certainly do that as well but its interesting dore citizens of our viewers around the world that weve got this kind of competing narratives in the u. S. Depending on which news channel youre watching and so the mani was very much looked at as being kind of invisible it waning unhinge if you like in the ball game and as i saw him being described on one channel and yet what we see. So many people across iran and there was one lady who very much struck me this morning who came out and said you know we value this man more sometimes than members of our own family and its very interesting to see these competing narratives long run alongside each other. Certainly you know the. Figure that people have in their mind in the west of us from solomon is the shadowy lurky figure of a commander who comes and goes in very secretly from. Countries such as syria and iraq and lebanon. But. Its a very different narrative here obviously its a its a one of a man who is who was tasked by the Supreme Leader to be really in charge of the Country Security he was the head of the courts force. He was appointed to that position in the early 1990 s. In the polls forces the tories slee secretive and operates very much quietly their. Assignments are never published their missions are never known but iranians are aware that they do very difficult work and they are in charge of a countrys security many people here believe the reason that i saw or other terrorist organizations havent been able to set foot inside iran is because of forces such as the bus force and the lights of general hossam cell the money so there is a very different impair narrative of what this man was like but really it was one of his main goals in life and weve heard this from his family members was to die in such a way to be killed and assassinated so. Is when they went away really the whole purpose of his life was to end this way his family his that expressed leaders daughter is that this was the ultimate soxer sacrifice for him but the idea that he was a terrorist he was designated as a terrorist by the United Nations and the u. S. Governments many many years ago really added to his status elevated him by bringing him to the forefront of what hes actually achieving in his life dorsetshire by their joining me live giving us some context for these pictures that were seeing from iran dorsett as always thank you if youve been listening to door son and on aljazeera over the past 10 minutes or so you will have been seeing these pictures these incredible pictures from all across iran yesterday and today this is the 2nd of 3 days of mourning were seeing a complete poor of grief a very interesting the door so i was just telling us that so many prominent. Officials have been showing a very emotional site which will give you some idea of just how much general sort of mani meant as. Of Iranian Civil Society is part of culture as pots all of the Security Architecture is incredible pictures from iran with the level of a state funeral where weve seen the Supreme Leader praying over his body and over the next few hours were yet to see more mourners come out to. The only. Look to see. On the previous episode of talk to aljazeera we spoke to even born the founder of a South African based private army heres what he told us. The operation were going to were going through phases the 1st phase was to actually cut a dividing line across northeastern nigeria and isolate boko haram into 2 defined areas we were not allowed to finish because it came at a time when governments were in the process of trying to end president jonathans government possibly so the entire boko haram contracted for. Called that almost as a last gasp in order to be going to popularity the incoming president president bihari was heavily supported by a Foreign Government and one of the 1st missions was to terminate our contract could you name the porn government yes we were told it was the United States now heres part 2 of our conversation with even part. I. Lets talk more about money this is the only thing that would get you to accept a contract and what jobs you have turned down 1st of all lets start with what weve turned down im not going to go through the whole list but i will take you back to a country which was known as i here known as the democratic republic of congo where a previous president asked us to get involved in assassinating one of his ministers who is the president that was president he wanted his minister says and i hated because the minister was caught stealing money you know were not in the business of carrying out assassinations on behalf of governments we will go in to help a government thats in a conflict situation and that is actually given up hope and in fact we are the last people they turn to. And sometimes it can be too late to actually help that government. I think the the 2nd part of that question is we were approached by governments we dont go and told governments that they must give us a contract but we work in an area now where the Playing Field is very unlevel and i say im level because governments have to pay us where is a lot of the Foreign Companies that come in are sponsored by their host government so it costs the government nothing so the koreans flip to either pay the South Africans or the South African Company to come in or to take whats offered for free invariably they take whats offered for free. And you believe that its free no of course not theres always an exchange theres always a string attached some way. And that string could be resources influence accept or we are still in africa but was another protagonist the russian that they have reports that it has cologne and youll want to Pioneer Company executive outcomes Business Model in angola and settle your own in securing their paychecks by way of mining concessions is this your Business Model i think lets go back to the so called mining concessions that was. A story sucked out of their thumbs by the sprit 994. 00 south African Military intelligence i have the Intelligence Reports marked secret claiming that we are being paid in oil and diamonds and i have never been able to understand how men would work for a barrel of oil a day or a month or a week. We need funds money to sustain ourselves we need to be able to pay for medical expenses we need to be able to feed our men and we cannot do that on oil and diamonds so they just be very honest and straightforward about that that is a lie and the paper that published that very interesting the. Took it from the old south African Military Intelligence Report which tells me that some way someone is feeding them this information in order to make it real or just perpetuating lies so as far as that media outlet is concerned i regard them with the contempt they deserve secondly Many Companies of try to clone executive outcomes not only the Russian Company companies in the west of trying to clone executive outcomes any of the admitted to that. The irony is that assume is the Russian Company came in suddenly they were the ones that cloned the company and that story started as well in the media. In the Mainstream Media system which claim that i was actually responsible for helping them to establish wagner so you know when it comes to companies such as that and stories such as that myself the state got involved in helping to establish wagner. Just a piece of fake news that actually any normal sensible person will will discard with a contempt that is coming to mozambique. These people came into mozambique not understanding the conflict not understanding the origins of the conflict not understanding the operational environment not understanding the area of operations not even understanding the people in the culture. And rushed in and thats not how you contain a conflict in africa if arrogance and overconfidence become the Foundation Upon which you operate youre going to get hurt in a previous single interview you said and let me quote you there are certain pm sees that enjoy the privileges of their own states we are not and that the cold reports say. The blood is one of those companies that uses russian army and Navy Transport facilities and sometimes the combatants fight side by side with the russian army. Does that represent unfair competition to your company well of course its unfair competition if you regard it is that. You know western pm seas or russian even chinese that are operating on this continent make use of their National Armed forces many of them well most of them are actually paid by their host governments we do not have that luxury we do not have a government that supports us in terms of a host government so what we have to go and try and secure for the company we have to do. In such a way that the government is willing to pay us and as i said earlier the opposite side is they believe theyre getting something for free which theyre not getting for free but those are choices governments make but it does actually minded the waters substantially because of the way a lot of these people have behaved in africa and of actually got involved in criminal activities but ironically the media chooses to always focus on executive outcomes and step companies that have been successful and those that commit crimes on this continent or ignored they never written about the fact that they supported by their own governments is never mentioned and i actually find that a little bit hypocritical because what it does say to me is that as long as africa is in a state of conflict a lot of people are very happy because theyre making their money out of it do you think that is going to be kind of a game changer in the continent well i dont think so unless they start learning lessons very very quickly. I think what the casualties that wagner suffered and dont get me wrong i do not rejoice when any of the casualties in wars and be in mozambique i dont rejoice when any people are killed of a private military company or a National Force but theyre going to certainly have to up their game and start realizing that this is not europe that operating in or the middle east its a very different continent look what happened to that. Progressing once progressing and relaxed country like muslim beat i mean it was stable progressing and peaceful why such influx of the mcs ironically they discovered oil and gas and it doesnt take Rocket Science to figure out that any country that discovers oil and gas is suddenly going to find themselves under Severe Threat from many quarters as people try to claim that oil and gas for themselves we see my. Big shortly after the oil and gas discovery was announced a previous Liberation Movement known as room norma suddenly reappeared with new equipment and new uniforms where did they get that from. So you can look at any country would you think that from will we can only speculate on that i dont have the proof of that but it doesnt take Rocket Science to figure out who was up there when the oil and gas was discovered have a look at a country such as a bob way which does not have oil and gas no one is interested in it look at a country such as the d r c which is rich in minerals everybody has an interest in a country such as nigeria that has oil everyone is interested in so you know the resources that countries have although it ought to be a blessing is in many cases because for those countries would like to listen to your take on the year see whats happening in the r. C. And them and ask oh i think 1st of all if you really look at the d r c and the amount of money thats been put into it to in this conflict i dont think its been very well spent and i need to point out that the un has always been very critical of the companies that i have cheated. Perhaps its because the un doesnt like the conflicts to end. Number one number 2 i would like to say that the un is had a perfect opportunity to in the conflicts but this hasnt happened. And i really need to understand in my mind why they have not been able to in these conflicts east india see is a mineral rich area but it is also become a haven for religious and criminal inspired terrorist groups Liberation Movements whatever you want to call them and yet the un has done nothing however the un has actually set and watched people being slaughtered are not going to the rescue and i find as any force claiming to be there to ensure peace i think these actions are despicable. I cannot understand how people can claim that they want to secure peace and bring about peace when they watch people being slaughtered and. People cannot tell me that the area is too big to control that is absolute nonsense and if people say that they are really trying to cover their own inability to do their jobs maybe its because of the different nature of the 2 jobs your job your companys shop and the job of the United Nations peacekeeping troops because they are out there to keep the peace which is nonexistent your mission sometimes is to enforce peace i hear your argument. However how do you keep peace between 2 warring countries why hasnt the un intervene between general halftimes people and the government in tripoli why havent they intervened in syria if they so concerned with keeping peace. And do not get me wrong im not discounting the un as an organization but im saying there are elements in it that are certainly not doing their jobs how can you claim to be peacekeepers if you cant keep peace so to me it is just a little bit of a twist on whats happening in there that conflict could have been ended a long time ago but i think that these both domestic and international will lacking because there are Many Companies that are currently in the d. N. C. Exploiting those Mineral Resources illegally for their own benefit. And under the watchful gaze of the un weve seen this happen time and time again however the un will talk at us and single us out yet they hire contractors to make use of pm cities to clear mines to help move logistics except or but no one talks about that and in that case it tells me that there is actually a large amount of hypocrisy going on here but its expanding on this you always say let me quote you on this p. M. C. Is a more efficient and much less costly in bringing conflicts to an end in comparison to the United Nations peacekeeping troops in light of the u. N. Convention that bans most of the activities dont you think that 5000 conflicts can work as a one way train weve weve never advertised or promoted the idea of privatizing conflict. What i have said is that the import of pm sees into a conflict as long as you are part of that National Military can actually in the conflict quicker and cheaper then what the United Nations or others can do and i would like to take you back to the genocide in rwanda the un did contact us no matter how much they deny it they called us from geneva and asked if we could intervene. We submitted a strategy that strategy was developed when did that happen this was in 199495 i cannot remember the exact dates of the genocide it was submitted to the un the un came back and said that we have to procure all of the equipment that we would need which included the vehicles the air transport the medical support the weapons the ammunition the uniforms eccentrics cetera the figure came to 100 1000000. 00 if i recall correctly for a 6 month period because that was what we were asked for. It was declined because it was too expensive the u. N. Instead tried to do it themselves that cost 150000000. 00 for 6 months and the genocide actually occurred so you know to me it is that there is a very clear distinction between cost efficiency and just spending money we have never wasted a governments money and they have never told us we are wasting their money and we never go into a conflict with our only quitman we make use of the governments equipment so you know the stories that is propagated in the media that we come with helicopters and tanks and and heavy equipment all lies those are all. Our kind of swear on camera but but its rubbish we make use of what the government hands certain critical equipment we will ask him to procure but we dont procure it because its that governments equipment but yes we have been much cheaper than what the un has been and probably will ever be and till someone fixes the department of peacekeeping in light of this do you think theres a need a real need to even though shape the convention and you convention that would regulate the e. M. C. Industry shes in the last 3 and in order to put more restrictions to stop the wyly violations attributed to some of these car companies. Lets go back to south africa there was a more promulgated. To actually control private military contractors operating outside of the country. I think south africa found itself in a unique position into just going to independence it had become or democracy rather. And it suddenly felt that it owed this to africa to prevent people running around causing conflict and maim across the continent we actually contributed to that bowl that was finally passed in parliament for the simple reason that Many Companies set themselves up claiming to be executive outcomes all illegally or trying to get contracts under our name. We were one of the very 1st companies that were actually awarded a contract to operate or license to operate by the South African government the media ever discounted that and i was told its not in the publics interest to know that so if its not in the publics interest to know that that we actually have a license to operate. Why do we then get a license to operate while within subjected to continue our lies and disinformation about the company and why do we actually have to put up with it thats the one side of the coin the other side of the coin is that this industry has given birth to many people that are nothing other then chances are they will take whatever chance they have they will deceive governments in order to secure contracts unfortunately though they deception leads to the loss of life on this continent and the list africa puts a stop to it its not going to end but to stop it governments need to develop a very strong and decisive political world is the reason why the same year you had yourself slices in south africa you decide to solve your company well 1st of all i left executive outcomes because i had been targeted for assassination several times in south africa i had become exhausted from having to fight a battle against a street in a foreign country as well as the media the south African Department of Foreign Affairs certain private interests that were held with rebel movements as well as south African Military intelligence and all of this was being fought in the media against us all the other actions were put in place to try and stop us as i say me being assassinated by lift executive outcomes because i was exhausted i become mentally and physically exhausted fighting this on a day to day to day basis and how do you defend yourself against continual lies you cannot that said that. The closure of executive outcomes happened after i left the company i had left the company and closed down approximately 6 months after i left and the reason it closed down is something that they can best explain the main 2 i gave the company. But i was told that they were several arguments amongst themselves about the future of the company and who would get what and governments didnt want to talk to them if i wasnt there so i wasnt prepared to go back and just put myself through the same actions of having to fight the lies and deception of the media anymore in spite of the United Nations convention banning personally activities we know that the International Organization hired someone. To do some jobs could you give us some examples and why would you think that the United Nations would have such a Convention Center around and Hire Companies like yours i dont speak on behalf of the year in what i can say is that when we were in sierra leone we assisted the World Food Program to safely deliver food to people in isolated areas at that stage were good enough for the u. N. More recently theyve been Contracting Companies that provide. The services of logistics to them oftentimes medical support the clearing of land mines accept or so i dont understand what the whole argument is. Private military companies would not be nice astri if National Armies and the United Nations were able to actually fulfill their mandate so i dont think the world should play the blame before us they should go and look at why we exist. Did the African Union at any point used your expertise know the African Union has not made use of our services because its it comprises government organizations however i have been a speaker at African Union conferences especially in relation to the establishment of whats known as the African Standby force. In which i was asked to deliver my opinion as to what could make a stand by force work or not work. You Companies Step claims to have been operating in africa in asia in the middle east could you give us some examples of how these operations we worked in south america we worked in indonesia. We were asked to go to saudi arabia after the message of the pogroms that taken place we lived with the Saudi National guard and gave our input and obviously weve worked extensively across africa so you trained saudi Saudi Security on the list to keep security for the balkans no we were asked to write a strategy for them and that is what we did we did not involve ourselves in the training because their training was done by Foreign Armed forces not private companies. Did you at any time execute an order order as a nation during the time you hit it c. C. P. The Civil Corporation piro executive outcome or step. Ive never done that and its always interesting to me that this question is asked to be was a very covert wing of the south African Special forces. In the region i was in did not make up our own orders we operated with orders from our hierarchy that were given to us. Any order that i received where i was in c. C. B. Or in the armed forces never had to do with assassinating people and secondly with an executive outcomes or step anyone who says that is really looking for a fake story these types of instructions have never been issued to anyone but you have been ordered for to execute as a summation of the review you refused yes i have been there was an instance when i was in c c b where i was tossed on a mission and i simply refused the mission because the person or persons in my opinion did not constitute a threat to the republic of south africa so im not going to go out and murder someone in order to take revenge on behalf of a politician or someone else and how did it in the. Ultimate we lost my job so you sacrifice your job for not executing the water well i think we became politically expedient but it was a good way to get rid of me us. In the middle of all this with these wars against you and your Companies Recently you were appointed by the government of south tommy as honorary consul how did that happen and what are your plans with the new job as a diplomat. Well 1st of all so to my approached me i did not approach that government i was also advised that several governments had discussed me as a potential option for their consul in south africa it was agreed i should get it for sector fice and service to africa my job is to try and explain the interests of south to my in south africa and vice a versa and to that extent a lot of workers are ready been done that were 5 about south africa and south america. Most of all thank you very much for talking to on the issue thank you very much. Hello there quite a lot of rain showers working their way across the Arabian Peninsula and areas of the middle east that moving fairly swiftly you can see will cloud across the towards the levant that is where the next system will be impacting over the next couple of days that by monday those rain showers would have cleared through central saudi arabia kid away as well of from castle so a line of rain showers into more eastern areas of iran those we had over into tuesday its nice to clip as a we have all this is just impacting the eastern med so that does mean more rain showers likely levanon israel where of course weve had the recent flooding in maybe op into Northern Areas of syria as well meanwhile Central Africa we have got quite a flurry of activity hippa ticket central areas the democratic republic of congo and also out across a towards gabble in a similar story by choose day in fact if anything the show a little bit heavier on the choose day and similar story down into Southern Africa is not a bad day monday across much of south africa heavy rain showers across into both wanna north and central areas of mozambique and then on she say some really widely scattered showers and rain events really some very heavy amounts of rain at times we could see some low class flooding but it will stay dry in cape town on tuesday and will miss well with a high of 27 degrees. 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