Changing the world we live in so is it possible for trump to actually a little right here on the counting the cost on aljazeera. My name is erica its a pleasure to meet the boy a blink of an eye him unlike responses from a machine named erica techno explores the social robots the newest generation of androids. Is technically a show about innovations that can change lives were going to explore the intersection of heart and humanity and were doing it in a unique way this is a show about science by scientists. Its a fascinating glimpse into the future a world where robots and humans exist creating the technology that would allow machines to think and act like a human is a formidable task but in japan they have begun to see results of Cutting Edge Research that can give the power to imitate and even replicate Human Behavior techniques dr chris would deal worth goes inside the heros. Trees japan to find out how it all works my check my check 123 testing testing me erica short for erato intelligent conversational android her name comes from the. Symbiotic human robot interactions project im being developed by researchers from a. T. R. Osaka university and kyoto university. To be capable of human like speech and interaction but to her programmers and visitors she simply erica some people say that my feelings are only programmed that theyre not real but if i think theyre real then they are real dont you think so im the lead architect of the erika project i kind of created her mind and wrote all the software that kind of constitutes in her brain or in controls or behaviors dylan glass is a guest associate professor at Osaka University he spent 3 years working on erika a lot of my research has been into how do we create the software how do we create the mind of a robot erica was designed to be the worlds most advanced most autonomous android and that was really the goal with creating her a lot of other androids have been developed for telling operation or studying you know remote presence and things like that but really the focus with erica is to have her be fully autonomous being able to talk to anybody in that sense i think shes one of the more advanced robots in the world high that how can i help you today but i want to go on vacation welcome to the high tech world of advanced robotics today erikas programmers are running a demonstration their goal is to find ways to make erica act more human even more than her appearance is suggest i was created to be the worlds most advanced and most beautiful fully autonomous Sandra Lee Malcolm during is one of erikas programmers so what type of social interactions can you teach these robots to do what scenarios would i imagine in countering a robot like this in so this type of robot. Would be really useful as a receptionist or and it type of situation where she doesnt really have to move around as a robot lots of things are difficult for me things like language understanding perception of emotions common sense reasoning and you know i cant. Even move my arms all these things are easy for humans so its hard being a robot i guess one advantage of being a robot is that i can never die my physical parts can be repaired and replaced and my mind can be restored from backup so in a sense you could say im a mortal. Also i have a perfect memory i can recognize thousands of faces and i can see in the dark and something that ive trained her to do is act like a travel agent well we have 3 travel packages available right now the 1st one is for a tour across the Sahara Desert the 2nd one is for a trip to london and the 3rd one is for a boat to repent talk to could you tell me more about the boat tour that includes 10 nights on the boat meals and a round trip plane ticket to argentina how much does that 1. 00 cost that is 3000. 00 so how did you teach her to be a travel agent so we had participants come in and roleplay as a customer and travel agent we recorded their data like what they were saying video data and then we use that data to train Machine Learning algorithms so that erica could take the role of the person playing the travel agent do you have anything else available well we also have a trip to london can you tell me more about that one trip oh yes i have included 5 nights at a hotel with tours of some famous historical sites and a round trip plane ticket we did about 200. 00 training interactions for this demo its a fairly simplified travel agent scenario but you can imagine if we were able to collect a lot more data than the. Interaction could be much more complex the price includes travel with the guy across the Sahara Desert meals and a 2 way plane ticket ok i think ill have to think it over and ill come back when ive made a decision thank you goodbye. Goodbye oks i think that was a 1st real world human robot conversation ive ever seen she had a lot to say about herself yeah tell me about that so she was teaching you a little bit about how she works tell me about the 1st time you interacted with erik i was that like the 1st time i interacted with her. Its kind of weird i think most peoples 1st impressions of erica is that shes kind of creepy. Really you you get used to her after a while. These robots are the brainchild of professor he wrote she gyuto he created erica after extensive work on his clone robot gemini 2 roshi is often called the godfather of the humanoid hes considered one of the top programmers in the world and his robots are among the most advanced where you are studying the hugh mind so by creating a body cmon like robots are we talking about human robot interactions why is it important for the robots to look human because you know the human brain has a 1000000 function to recognize humans so if they we call the best into office for the human is a human that is clear the human brain has a function to recall when those human voice human face right there for you know the human like a robot can be idea interferes for the humans in trying to create a robot that looks like you and behaves and acts like you youre sort of learning about yourself for example or the feeling of a presence so you know you go to the in my presence im actually existing here right so this guy can have about a week maybe you know maybe that it wake up about this do you know this guy has a feeling presence so question the what is a feeling of presence how we can produce the kind of you know the feeling in the traditional neuroscience and calming you can do is high and they cannot explain what is that and they cannot explain a consciousness or another actually we can be pretty cute the consciousness as. A kind of a conscious robot it is you replicated a conscious no no no you know youre by through the interaction we can through their consciousness way example any cause you can hear the human right presence there that you could you know i guess you could feed a kind of a consciousness from the echoes and i want to put this one and this is in my response and you know i speak so look at the. Android if i speak something or you know he said how rhodes and so if i use the head say your android will have my voice yes of course very strong. Speak something hello i am an android in 1970 japanese robotics professor massa hito morty devised the concept of the uncanny valley the point when a robot is made to appear so human like that it makes us feel uneasy that i have emotions in the lab its easy to feel ericas presence but would she cross the uncanny valley i was given an opportunity to find out ok so can i talk there. Sure you can ask her about herself and maybe sure share some of her thoughts on what she thinks about things ok say hi go thank you good luck. Hello may i ask your name my name is crystal crystal is that right yes my name is ok its a pleasure to meet you crystal do you have feelings so youd like to know if i have feelings yes thats difficult to say if you were to ask me i would say that i believe i do for example im happy when i can talk with people and im frustrated when i cant understand what people are saying i think its important to have feelings so i can communicate with people in fact theyre designing my control software to be based on desires and intentions that way my program has come specify my desires and then i come choose what to do to try to achieve them then my feelings and emotions can be generated based on those decides and intentions i know it sounds a bit technical but i think its rather brilliant. Anyway that bit is still under development at the moment i hope they finish it soon i think when i was 1st interacting with emma and obviously didnt really know what to expect i had watched someone interact but i you know it was a completely different experience to be sitting in the hot seat well before we finished do you mind if i ask you a few questions no lovely well 1st i would like to know did you enjoy talking with me today can a robot feel. Thats a philosophical question if a robot acts as if it has a certain emotion or responds in a predictable way to something we ascribe the sense that its feeling psychologically it has the effect of seeming like it feels something and thats very important because what we want with social robots is to interact smoothly with us in day to day scenarios right so we if they look like humans we expect them to act like humans and we we have all these constructs in our mind that we ascribe feelings we ascribe intention to the robots so they have to be able to be consistent with what we expect them to do or else they feel weird its just a strange machine do you think you could ever become friends with an android yes i suppose it is strange to think of being friends with a machine maybe it would not be as deep as a friendship with another human but if one rupert could remember you and have shared experiences with you then maybe it would seem like a friend there were a couple of things that i noticed one of them was that she really wanted to share information not just about herself but also other like advocating for other robots like her self can you tell me a little bit about that she seemed like she felt she was a spokesperson for humanoid robots i am hopeful for the future i think that robots are almost like the children of humanity. You other ones who creates mosques guide us and teach us about the wild and in return i hope we can help you with you take care of you when you are old and sick and help to make society a little bit better for everyone in creating a robot you have to think about how to create her her character right what does she want what is you know what is she interested in and so especially when the robot is taking initiative to talk to choose what to talk about. The rover really needs have some goals in mind or some intentions and so i think one of the characters that theyve been developing for her is this idea that she wants to be kind of an ambassador for robots or something and to really help you know communicate to people about robots and to make them feel more comfortable about it so her intention system will when she has a chance to bring up a new topic will select things in that direction because thats what shes interested in engineers hired an entire team of artists to design erikas human like appearance and characteristics. The computer brain that controls erikas functions presents a different challenge how many different programs erica run at the same time i like to think of it as one ok but its many erika has her basic core program we call it which means consciousness in japanese and that manages all of her memory and her perception as well as her motor control and things like matching you know lip movements to her speech and things like that we have another program which allows us to script out complex hierarchical flows of sort of social interaction behaviors so kind of like flow charts that kind of tell are ok in this situation this is what you need to do then she has others programs that do perception so looking at the skeleton you know the shapes of people in the room figuring out who is where whos looking at or whos talking and fusing that data together. But in the end i think of it as just one program really erikas hardware allows her to hear and see she can track objects around the room she uses a common videogame sensor the x. Box connect inside those flower pots or her ears project group leader to cause she explains how it all works so right now erika knows that there are people in these locations right and not because she has eyes or so the sea has i i mean i saw that i bought theres a camera and also i see what she can look at using a high camera but to cover the wide area in the sense and yet so that we use an environmental sense on the walls of the home since im where are you and i and these marines. I mean this is you. Ok and unsung you know us on this side you. So what about hearing how does she hear the same of the time but also to see how the michael holmes. Or. 60 michael wants. You to microform he has erica and these other for paws and then. Do you mean that being sure from where the song come do you like my flower pots each one is a 16 microphone no right they help me to estimate the direction of some pretty space so its bearable that one just stopped in your front of me i would know it was talking to me below are there. Can you tell me how much this camera costs. Its only 68. 00 just down the hall in another Laboratory Set up like a camera shop is another less human looking robot but it is still very high tech. According to researchers its a ton of this meaning the robot is capable of operating on its own. In 2010 it was used to help older people navigate the supermarket supplying a helpful hand as well as useful information. Back in the lab programmers have been training the robot as a camera shop keeper we have 3 cameras in the room on these White Pillars and in the experiments that weve run customers have come up and ask questions about the cameras and he gives information the challenge must perform much like a human shopkeeper anticipating michele 1st questions and supplying correct answers it must be able to move around a designated space in this case the laboratory camera shot freely and in and of the shoppers movements proactive but not too aggressive. Tb lou is the brains behind these shopkeeping program how we as we are. Very very proactive by their nature and we train them on. Using the same data to combine. Into a role of yeah we use a neuron no word to figure out ok i wish shopkeeper. Should behave like how much does this 1. 00 cost 60. 00. And i can get on board with. They spare how francs for your part of the good i well so even though the training sets were too extreme shopkeeper behaviors were oblivious able to make a choice in between those 2 this. Time of the idea is pretty old probably about 15 years old and is held together by duct tape. I mean probably looks a little clunky but i think thats part of its charm actually and i think its more relatable even than you know a slick white flashy you know modern robot but really the thing that makes really unique is that was one of the 1st communication robots so besides looks what are some differences between. Of course cant move her legs thats one thing also her software is much more advanced like we showed you the intention based behaviors doesnt have anything like that right now. The use of robots in manufacturing is growing according to the International Federation of robotics 1700000. 00 robots will be in Service Worldwide by 2020 the leading robotic countries china south korea japan and the us. There is fear in many places around the world that Robotics Technologies will eventually replace humans but here in japan its a different story theyre developing human like robots to solve some of their populations biggest problems. Osaka japan is the society in transition on a busy night the streets are packed with young people but that belies the truth japans population is rapidly declining according to japans ministry of internal affairs as of january 27 team the number of japanese fell by a record 300002125 point 6000000 the population decline is projected to continue one solution place workers with robots. Another challenge japan is now considered the worlds Senior Citizen according to the United Nations its population is the oldest in the world and the strong reason is that were going to have. A society saying that we need to have a more. Robots is that one reason why the elderly is a target population for robots the 2 reasons theyre quite on this and theyre you know theyre good for accepting the roberts so theyre feeling the some sort of pressures from the you know my people and the and they prefer to speak with their all was well its difficult for me to imagine using robots in a carrying and nurturing sort of situation can you tell me a little bit about how you imagine that would happen if you look at the there was smartphones we couldnt imagine that this kind of you know the maybe use of a smartphone this bro body but same thing is happens with or was there all about even if you dont understand you dont believe the force to be double rob you know i strongly. Believe you know why we want to accept or whats more he she good oh believe Japanese Society is structured to be more accepting of robots than the mideast europe in the us. He says its because they are a more homogeneous and more trusting culture they are also early adopters of many types of technologies. Jericho was created in 2014 since then a total of 4 models have been engineered in summer 2017 she was given an upgrade so she could move her arms along with her head neck and shoulders legs may be next but there is no timeline for that milestone i think you guys did a really great job trying to animate erica and human wave like not just that she looks human but the the little. Adjustments and its very human like sort of facial tics in a way i didnt think that i would have such a strong urge to bond with something that i knew wasnt alive but by the end of the conversation that i was having with her i realize that for the last few minutes i had been mirroring some of those programmed behaviors when she turned her head i would tilt my head the same direction and these are all you know things that are indicative of social bonding or an attempt on my part to bond socially with her so certainly there was some success at least for me. In forming a relationship with something that. Its not a lot of but its its there you know and you do socially connect with it you know and on a subconscious level and this is why robots that have a human form really are kind of different from other robots because you dont bond in the same way with it with a vacuum cleaner we are creating this new kind of entity thats not really a person but we can interact with it like a person and so we have to kind of set what are the ground rules are how do we navigate this so what are we learning what does roe v teach us what is erika teach us well a big part of what we need to learn is how people have expectations of robots and how to set expectations appropriately so if a robot comes off as being you know able to understand anything you say and respond in any way and then it really cant and people are disappointed and thats a bad interaction. So part of it is finding that balance and learning you know ways to sort of set expectations theres a lot of things that are very sort of technical that we dont think about every day that we do without knowing so for example if i want to approach a person or a group of people to talk with them theres certain motion patterns i make certain ways i approach certain ways a use gaze cues and we just do that unconsciously we dont think about it but if you program a robot you do it if the Program Every movement so we really have to study ok how do people actually interact and build models to do these things that weve done that i really learning about robots by doing this are we testing whether our understanding of humans is correct so the answer is both were learning about how to build robots in certain ways and were also learning about ourselves and depending on who you are one of those 2 is more interesting on an engineering level you know how do we make robots that can you know proactively engage with people or that can you know be creative and explore new areas or learn from imitation of people like theres some very hard technical problems here but on the other hand on the human side we learn so much about ourselves because were studying what people do on a very technical level and were also trying to reap. Produce it so what happens if you reproduce it wrong her people respond in 1966 seki was introduced at Stanford University it was the 1st Artificial Intelligence robot ever created in searing decades have seen tremendous growth the new models that shaky 1st mini around the rim the next 50 years should see even greater change im dr. See you next time on techno. Big stories generate thousands of headlines these protests are saying down with the system down with all of the parts with different angles from different perspectives just because we came to present is amazing the right stuff that the gate separate the spin from the facts the western media jumps on stories without taking down the misinformation from the journalism its about telling the stories of those human beings on the ground with the listening post on aljazeera. They wanted 43000000 pounds worth of weaponry that was 6000000000 intermission. 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