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Is glad im here putin creating a new reality on the ground in crimea moscow and explained theyre from ukraine in 2014 and russia as its been under International Sanctions but now the russian president has opened a direct train link to the peninsula so what does this mean for the future this is inside story. Hello welcome to the program im still robin a new road and rail bridge now connects the Crimean Peninsula with russia the 4000000000 dollar transport link is the longest in europe but it seemed by many in kiev as a symbol of moscows control over the peninsula and the United States and European Union consider it a violation of ukraines sovereignty and impose sanctions on Companies Involved in its construction moscow and kiev as relations have worsened since russia annexed crimea in 2014 the peninsula had only been accessible from mainland ukraine until the bridge was opened last year now marked by president Vladimir Putin he drove through it on a truck now trains are starting to cross running from St Petersburg to crime is largest cities the best of all but on tuesday from moscow to the capital simferopol. Russia and ukraine have recently taken some steps to ease those tensions theyve agreed to implement a cease fire in Eastern Ukraine by the end of this year now that deal was reached in paris earlier this month when russian and ukrainian president s met for the 1st time almost 2 months earlier ukraines president of la them is alinsky agreed to elections in separatist held parts of the dumbass region and in september russia and ukraine each exchanged 35 prisoners Ukrainian Government troops and russian backed separatists also withdrew from key frontline areas in Eastern Ukraine over several months. Well lets bring in our guest for this edition of inside story well joining me from moscow is victor all of which the lead analyst at the think tank center the actual politics ilya bottom of it is the c. E. O. Of trident acquisitions which focuses on investment in oil and gas in Eastern Europe hes also a former member of russias parliament and the only member to vote against the alex ation of crimea in 2014 he joins us from kiev via skype darrent deal is principal russia analyst at the global Risk Consultancy maker croft he joins us now from london gentlemen welcome to this edition of inside story ilya put amount of in the care plan to start with you i mean how significant is this in terms of a milestone in the fractious relationship between ukraine and russia that this bridge has finally been built and is it operation well to my mind theres just a lot was. The main. Its already happened when it was a cartridge last year and since that time our training is already linked to mainland russia which of course its extreme the symbolic because this breach became the largest infrastructure or to come from. Some portion of the sun at the expense of russian taxpayers for example where i mean. I can see for the council the construction of the bridge across the or final because such a breach across france cultural strait is one crimea. Other regional fresh in your future they consult a lot of the railway bridge across. The worst basically would have been done right now its Public Relations for mr wood some to support this popularity. Is russia a lot of people in ukraine are angry about this. Its. My personal take on this but at the end of the day. Say shylock remis temporary and occupation is temporary at the end of the crimea go back to ukraine in this case rain would inherit this. Huge piece of infrastructure you cannot help it it may be a really a story to tell youre going to got a lot to think about that a lot to comment on as well through this problem victor out of it you heard what ilya had to say i mean from the russian perspective this is yet another you might say infrastructure success for the president but in recent weeks in the sort of state of the union the end of year address he did talk about the fact didnt he in his address to the russian people but there were problems with the economy there were problems with corruption and so i wonder how russian people would actually take the opening of this bridge i mean do they do they see it as something they can take pride in or is it just an unnecessary expense. Well of course crimea has a long history of both with russia and ukraine for hundreds of years russia and ukraine were part of a of the same state including the soviet times when the crimea was formally transferred from the Russian Federation to the ukrainian republic at that time by the crucial of the 1950 s. And of course the vast majority of the population in crimea is russian ethnically russian and they are russian speakers but the main reason why the russian leadership decided in 2014 to to take crimea was political because the russian leadership the kremlin at that time believed that if crimea remained part of ukraine after the change of power after yanick which was ousted in kiev then the kremlin believed that the Russian Black Sea fleet that was based in ukraine would no longer be able to function would need to be moved to different bases and russia did not at that time even have bases where we could cause the Russian Black Sea fleet and the kremlin it was also concerned the phrase that you had to interrupt your mother. With respect because back to your question with respect i have to interrupt you we dont need a History Lesson we we need because we know the history of the region with respect so the question again is. How do you polish react to this in relation to obviously the history of whats called an independence here in the last couple of years. Well the public mostly sees it as a necessary expense yes the Economic Situation is quite bleak and its not expected to get better in the next months and years but for the 2 people for the live in crimea and for the people that seek to travel there of course the new Infrastructure Projects. Look necessary crimea is being blocked isolated by ukraine as a territory that no longer is no longer under its sovereignty and so so moscow is attempting to lay new ground work new ways to get into crimea. Connected to the russian mainland and this bridge both as far as car traffic and train traffic is concerned is part of those efforts in the normal to cause bring you in here i mean youve heard sort of the 2 sides of this from our guests in moscow and yet i mean how much of this project is actually symbolic how much of it is actually a political or military military need or an economic need for russia at this moment in time. Well its all 3 of those things at once from the start we should distinguish the fact that. Country to ilia we would expect that the occupation of crimea at this point is going to remain relatively permanent abs and he sort of massive political change in russia. Crimea as ours was a major booster for putin back in 2014 thats worn off at this point. But at this point you know even if the rest of the world is never going to recognize the antics ation theres very little prospect of russia going out so these Infrastructure Projects are necessary to support the principle to provide direct links which will also need to see things with you know a tricity freshwater to reduce its dependence on ukraine but they also provide an economic benefit for certain people i lied towards the kremlin the people who get these contracts the people who are trusted to carry them out you know this is a very lucrative business for all of them now what this actually means for ordinary russians at this point is hard to see since 2014 weve seen the oil price kalash weve seen a deep recession followed by several years of economic stagnation and falling Living Standards throughout the regions in particular which has led to an increase in protest activity not just political protests in moscow but protests across places like otc and goals can but only as all of you know against certain aspects of the states policies whether that be plans for garbage dumps whether that be local infrastructure ordinary russians are very annoyed. And theyre annoyed with the power structures even if theyre not articulating that right now so while this bridge to crimean isnt going to get people out in the streets as to why are we wasting money on this i think. That is right that you know theres. Theres a. Cream not the crimean consensus its accepted in russia but its not saying that people are going to be celebrating with you know fireworks and fanfare. Put a lot of ink you have you would nodding your head you want to come in and those comments i think. You know i think that you know in say in terms of russians or in the russians take on this i think they will launch is this too much because they dont see the connection where the budgetary flows are coming but for people in crimea from one side of course its a sign the. Truce not forgive them the 2nd ideas on this is a very pregnant but the most important thing that crimea is struggling without fresh water. Right now struggling on the verge of political disaster and most close to investing in the bridge which has been constructed by close associates. Family which are directly benefiting from the financial. Nothing. To support for a 1000000. 00 on the internal crimean infrastructure like like Water Supplies that. All people in crimea everything victor all of it in moscow in terms of the way russia has proceeded to build a bridge and to solidify its links with crimea is that more in reaction as well to the isolation its felt from the International Community since sanctions were put in place either by the e. U. Or by the u. S. Well of course russia has felt the bite of these sanctions and not just by the west by the un the us but russia has been forced to. Adapt to a new economic reality where the ukrainian Industrial Enterprises that were part of the Russian Service the Russian Military industry defense in the state. Russia has now been forced to provide to make its own Defense Enterprises take over from the ukrainian ones that they dealt with before 2014 russia has also had to build new Railway Lines around Ukraine Russia has also been basically felt it necessary to build this bridge due to crimea to connect the insula to the russian mainland so russia has definitely had to increase its expenditures in a new economic and a new jip political reality and this is certainly a long term situation the kremlin understands that and of course i would also agree with my colleague in london that the socalled crimea is ours effect and it was a euphoric moment in 2014 when crimea became part of russia it was a euphoric moment from a new russian citizens and it was something that that. Sort of new fides for a few years for several years up until now the massive protest activity that russia saw in 2012011 electoral cycle and now as this effect is wearing off we are seeing the new protest activity not just in moscow but in other parts of the country and we can expect that people are going to manifest their. Desires and their dislike of the problems that they see in their life even watch thats fastly because the crimea effect is wearing off and give. Before we go back to ilya and kids because i wonder what do you think would be the next move now by the e. U. And the us now that this bridge is it will in operation the the road side of the bridge was operational what last year another train side has become operational it is how much of it is a good to the e. U. And the us into any moves will they will they want to this point we wouldnt expect anything beyond some strongly worded letters and expressions of concerns number one this is all just reflecting facts on the ground as you said the cart bridge is already open this is just opening up the rail network secondly we have to consider the fact the transatlantic relationship is very very different than what it was in 2014 we have a u. S. President hughes approach to Foreign Policy. We say is a typical of a lot of his predecessors who hasnt shown a lot of enthusiasm for working together with the European Union certainly not for coordinating big actions against russia and so the question is 1st off what can you do at this point that actually imposes material costs on the Russian Federation without massively escalating the situation above and beyond what it is right now and how do you get to that solution and coordinate and agree it between both washington and all the european states and keep in mind that you know france is looking for some way to reach a detente the u. K. Is leaving the e. U. And its role in the Foreign Policy making of the block is going to be up in the air so theres you know theres a whole lot of frayed connections at the moment and. And the mechanisms by which these things would usually be coordinated and implemented or just arent functioning as they would be and even more importantly there isnt the political will at the top particularly in washington and of course you know frayed connections but its also quite a. A story of moving parts bit like a jigsaw puzzle. On amount of in kiev of course one way that kiev has reacted is to get closer to the e. U. In various forms and on various agreements militarily it does want to get close its even eyeing up potential membership of nato that worries russia potential membership of the e. U. That worries russia which direction do you think you have is going to go in then with regard to if they cant find a solution with russia theyll find a Better Partnership with europe and other allies. I think the. Situation in the crimea. Likely. Look so frozen occupational like it was with the occupation of the baltics. We are soviet union. For what like 40 or more years. That didnt prevent the wests. Work with the soviet union have relations with the soviet comic ties with the soviet union but when the soviet union and began to collapse the. d knowledge that they. Were introduced to the European Union the need to stop and i think that with the crimea more or less. The same situation we have a low budget would say that its russian territory but everybody would return. Get about it for a while the 2nd which is way more important at the moment the young girl working in Eastern Ukraine where people are dying every single day and thats where your focus is right now thats where the focus from your feeling is the European Union is United States is and the focus of ukraine. I think thats where we will find the new media solution in the meanwhile while d. Praying for them in. Short ordinary craniums they would have been with. Their life. Better than it is right now with. A debate yet again for another day with people from crimea victor all of it in moscow i mean you heard our guest earlier in kiev and of course there is of the 2 sides to this of course from russias point of view as they see you crying getting close to the e. U. Or certainly more friendly. Russia has been thrown out of the g 8 its had its diplomats removed for example from the United Kingdom after the poisoning and the accusation that they were behind the poisoning of a former russian agents scrip or i mean this sort of schism between russias relations with europe is something that doesnt sit well with moscow they would like to be friendly but they cant because of the dynamics of their internal politics especially when it comes to crimea who would like to be a putin like to be back in the g. 8 would he like to have better relations with the e. U. Or is he actually quite happy with the way things are right now. Well the kremlin would like to have a better relationship with the European Union a much better relationship with europe in fact if you look back. In syrias 2 years in office he had tried to manage a strategic relationship or start a new partnership with germany on their hard shoulder at the time he had tried to improve relations with the u. K. Which have almost 4 decades been invaded tickled for from moscow. He had tried to manage should withdraw actually rock at that time the president of france and with other european leaders and of course as years passed by 1st with the conflict in georgia in 2008 and then more sick much more significantly with the change of power in ukraine in 2014 and the russian response to it of course the relationship with europe has frayed moscow has taken a stance whereby it would like to have a better relationship with brussels and with the european capitals but the european capitals are essentially not responding to that and moscow is not willing to make those steps or those concessions that would be needed in the eyes of the european. To improve that relationship so this point the russian leadership is quite thats a mistake it would like to improve that relationship but its best to mystic about the chances that hell chances of improving the relationship with europe at the same time it is pursuing. Efforts to improve or at least normalize stabilize elations with specific european states that she has only. Come goody and some others that may be more attuned to a. More attuned to a more. Normalise stable relationship with russia with less criticism of its mexico Foreign Policy so we should not at this point expect a significant change either from moscow on moscow side or from the side of the european side and the leadership is. Expected to be as big as it is right now because absent in worse we are coming to near the end of a program don im a doctor i just bring you in there about that relationship and most pessimistic on the political front its funny how strong you might say the euro the pound the dollar or the ruble speaks when it comes to building an underwater pipeline from russia to europe theyre willing to talk on that level are they not when it comes to the economy and to you might say keeping europe warm. Well i mean nordstrom too is as far as germany is concerned an economic project when it comes on line you know even even given the fact that ukraine is obviously quite upset about this because of potential for its Pipeline Capacity being bypassed by european import demand is going to be such for the forseeable future that. There will be you know even an s 2 wont be able to supply it all and ukraine will still need to be used thats kind of a long term structural interdependence between the 2 countries i want agree with with victor that you know its very unlikely that were going to see a reprimand between europe and russia we shouldnt put it down to political will power between either 2 sides you know weve seen mccraw make some very. Very Forward Looking Statements with terms of our precious month it comes down to in compatibility and basic principles of state craft from the 2 sides europe has certain expectations about the rights of sovereign states even those in russias neighborhood and there are there will they believe you to choose their own policy that has certain standards on human rights and the independence of courts and you know even as we saw this early putin rapprochement with europe largely or in part because of iraq and because the western allies were distant from the u. S. We were still seeing things like the fascination of alexander litvinenko. You know that certain free ride for russian organized crime and intelligence activities in europe and even as youve talked about building relations with austria hungary and italy weve seen russia intervening in europe to support far rights and in some cases far left populist or anti system parties so its not so much that russia you know is looking for europe to reengage its that russia really would like to see europe change fundamentally before it feels it can safely engage and to agree vita vice versa we said have to leave it with that sort of pulls for thought for the moment but im afraid we havent. The times its been a great pleasure speaking to all 3 of you victor all of it. But a lot i think daryn the duel in london gentlemen thanks very much for joining me on this edition of inside story and of course you can continue to watch this program again any time by visiting our website at aljazeera dot com and for further discussion go to our Facebook Page facebook dot com forward slash a. J. Inside story you can also join the conversation on twitter handle there is not a j inside story from me so ho rahman on the whole inside story team thanks very much for your time and your company. Football tournament like no other and one of the at the beginning we used to play football in the streets using a soft aljazeera world meets a group of sudanese boys determined to win against a backdrop of conflict and uncertainty and thats. When i walk in the street people stop me oh man its because of. Darfur put both a piece on aljazeera. Trouble began at the end of the countrys civil war when most people started returning home from refugee camps. 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