Critics departure is delay but the home followed the good drama of bricks it on aljazeera. Welcome to the stream colombia desperate colombia awake that is the hash tag connect to the countrys biggest protest me as a people still raising their voices after nearly 2 weeks of demonstrations ive had hey im like a reality as thousands of people take to the streets again today we want to hear your thoughts on whats next for colombia get in touch through twitter and you tube and you can be part of todays conversation. Its now 13 days since hundreds of thousands of people held wide ranging protests against colombias government and people back out on the streets again the demonstrations have been joined by people from all walks of life with labor unions student movements and indigenous groups among those leading the way protesters are now leading a 3rd general strike after talks between the government and the National Strike committee failed to make progress and they have a long list of grievances. We are protesting because of the new reforms that the government has tried to impose on us really the congress and the council are only helping themselves they are helping the needy people of the country amount doesnt help us as workers. This is a peaceful protests because the only thing we want is peace in colombia we can overcome the rest but peace is what we need urgently. If the president doesnt listen to us well continue the strike until were heard either the easy way or the hard way. For more on this were joined from cali in western colombia by emmanuel resin tao an activist who has joined the protests from the capital bogota we have Gabrielle Santos a congressman with the ruling Democratic Center party and also in bogota sergio in his direct at columbia risk analysis which provides for consul colombias political and security situation hello everybody. You saw there the comments from protesters in the streets we recorded them just a few hours ago and they spoke to the stream specially when you know who is out on the streets who is striking are you surprised by the morality of protests. Yeah and he actually the diversity of the protest is something that gives the protest a lot of strength but its also something that makes the protest week because the number of demands and the number of requests the objectives of the protests tend to be diffused among such a large group of people and so im just thinking at manual you have been out by you have been striking what do you want to happen. Well. First of all if youre going to expression of an indignation that had been a long time and indignation again. Id say the things id like to see have heard when. The main reforms that the government is trying to introduce and are worth only. The government actually backs off from the 2nd one the government and the establishment realize that hundreds of thousands millions of people in colombia do not like our. Own didnt have a chance to say we are or are going to rule or one you or i or most of colombia of course i mean if im wrong with your just state you go we have a debt among the country do we even know gender by the people or. Not. By obama that you go along. Well that was such a clear and concise list of things that the protesters want and are calling for whats not as clear and concise as a few tweets that i want to share with you to actually help you hope that you can pick them apart for us because when we asked our Community People online why it is theyre taking to the streets why it as theyre protesting we got back several answers ill share just to this 1st one from someone who says i would like to start by mentioning the main reasons why people are protesting against the government that all started with the assassinations of social leaders that were reported and most of these reports began increasing after 2 kate was elected so thats one persons thoughts another though maria on twitter says what sparked the strike the biggest strike in colombia in modern history was the current labor and Pension Reforms and proposals that ultimately could affect the most vulnerable sectors of society farm workers young people low class low income class families so many 2 very different. Reasons from people on line but that is why both of them are al in the streets can you pick apart that for us yes absolutely if they are all truth and they are more me and thats exactly whats happening so much bill got so many reasons like the government acknowledge the fact how to acknowledge the fact that it had good. Luck and had murdered children and covered it up at least 8 and there are reports of more than 300. 00 in in 8 years well see if thats true there are reports also and we know the fact that there are more than 700 leaders hope weve got 3 and i dont need yours and murdered throughout the country we doubt any serious protection toward them and then worst on top of these all when the mobilization comes out again it u. K. Chanelle and shown back 3 forms are not there then the government goes ahead yet their day yesterday that being our goal voted yes they insulting the broke and approved in the 1st instance barry reforms we are protesting again so exactly what youre seeing in print read what youre seeing is one huge reason we are fed up. So much for you to pick up on the way you want to stop us well i would like to say i respectfully disagree with what mine will be stating for various reasons i believe these have very legitimate posts to protest but these high times for columbia and the office he must prove to be the opportunity to have these big discussions and such a society we must have. Some of the princes men once stated are not i grouped or false lets start with the pension reform which was. Basically if i read the situation right one of the 1st their requests people were were were marching up on. Their sorry theres a kind of enemy fire or type of just a 100 meters away from the from the protest a so that they would call if there were say the guard wanted to introduce these fair very straight pension reform minded this is the to reduce the salary of young people in colombia and they are absolute like there hasnt been that discussion of a pension reform there as there is no. Real all introduced by government that talks about the pension reform and there is no law introduced by the government that talks about reducing the salary to young people these have been talks mostly from private sector entities that have commented upon these issues they have made it that they have made this recommendation and International Organizations like the. O. C. D. I dont know what that is why the acronym its in english but they have stated we need a pension reform because the way we are we are subsidizing type interesting knaan days very unstable and it in and will not allow your people to pension in the future is socially leaders its something very troublesome for conferred for columbia as a society is something that it is very difficult to digest for anyone in the political spectrum but is something that hasnt been happening recently its something that its that you cannot take up on the National Government elected a year somewhat little bit more of a year ago and its not their exclusive responsibility this has been happening since the peace deal was signed and it has been happening because we have a very difficult conflict for example with the lease of crops in colombia it out just to take up also meant that i have a feeling a soldier wants to ask you something since a course that. No i mean the usual i think is important because mentioning the Peace Agreement is something that if you will is worth noting i feel that that was an important break. You know why i point it big and now i think that theres a lot of reasons that people are upset. Also because of the governments resistance to implementing the Peace Agreement so you know we dont teach these things have been festering for a while that are coming out in large part because of insiders faction with the government to to mine was point but i think youre you have a good point when you talk about pension reform i dont think that weve been having. A civilized discussion about what that means and what we should do as a country for that theres been a myth much disinformation about about that but but but people are angry also in part because of that so i want to bring in another voice before we get too much further on one of the reasonings behind why people are angry this is a video comment without from sylvie out terus is a professor of Political Science at the university of arizona got that ball that and heres what she told the story. Before our political balance was at the center of public to be fair but with the fact gone people started to be attention to all of these things like inequality corruption and shouldnt have an indication im protesting for all of those things many people feel very frustrated because they want to turn to page of Political Violence for good and that its not happening. Now brianna what do you make of what shes saying about this is why were seeing people protest about things we didnt see in the past well i would i would be somewhere in the middle i dont think that is thats absolutely right i think that the Peace Process of course opened the political space to start discussing things that hadnt been in the top of our political agenda for the past 50 years i would agree with that but i dont think thats the only reason were seeing this protest this protest they have been in the beginning someone based on an argument that are very difficult to undertake by one government for example we see some people. Vote they do National Monetary fund some people another protesters are asking for the Peace Process to be completed other peoples hire are there been taken to the streets based on follows courts or lie so its very difficult to understand where these protests come from and i would agree with a comment made earlier about this is going to be a very real problems because of the difficulty to understand 1st who needs to protest so who do you have to seat and what are the jitterbug that requests and hour can you transfer those requests into a political or into a bill into congress for example and then come with an outcome they would agree with so its very difficult to see where it is coming from cable on the point of who leads that protest just yesterday one of the members of the National Strike committee was talking about the strike that we can hear a little bit of outside have way youre sitting right now and this is what he sat at bout the plan but today. So thats like the most i see of them is that i we continue to carry out our acts of mobilization that we have planned to december 10th for now and weve been very clear with this in asking for the highest guarantees from the government we want all the exercises to be absolutely peaceful regarding tomorrow weve put forward to the government that they should not bring out the antiriot police to create a more calm scene we hope to carry out a peaceful colorful event with this Christmas Season thats already broken out in the country. Right that is at peace were outside whenever it is it has been a mostly peaceful process. Theres no fireworks which are illegal but there i could see some fireworks through my window. But it has been a mostly peaceful protest but we have been seen continuously it is. Very very Violent Attacks we had 2 very difficult not to go by last week with. People destroying public and private property and so so i understand what. He doesnt want to see that right police in the streets but its very important to understand that this is not on and protest police unit dissent and you are right police going ok it is difficult to say that we have seen in the past week lets just step back a little bit lets look at the last 15 months of. The ruling party just just looking at how they performed many well it seems like this is frustrations that building up for some time if you had to review the president s last 15 months what would you say whats happened. First were providing you with background the Political Party in power and the president in power. Had actually been part of the government that we elected president to even if youre going to. So its not just the speech in my the responsibility goes for a longer period look but im and i disagree with with the senator is because this is a long standing problem and we can fix it in 15 months not been part of the problem for a longer period of time and ill mention something very important 1st of all your minister of defense had to resign over several scandals that were made probably before they were made to the longer they were made public in the New York Times including the fact that the commanding general commander of the armed forces was made the commander of the armed forces when evidence came out in the New York Times that he had been involved in pauls part. In nation of civilly and that where later shown. 2nd last week only the riot police murdered and the images are everywhere and the. Examination of the autopsy proved this murder to be a long cruise and angered everybody in yesterdays 15 year old indigenous guard was run over. So it has been a very aggressive government they aggressive our order and they have been involved in. The brutality of corruption and of all kinds of abuses not the least of which is the assassination of the amount of 3050. 00 mobilized one of the many. Small the live fire people who was who was captured with his friends let me just finish the statement that case should be known by everybody everywhere in the world. Great brutally tortured and then the skull that is out there i mean it was your veil so do you feel i. Know there is a possibility of these government out of these all right at the end of the day through is a way that i guess really well i allowed a will to. Think of any no allegations and reports that you are bringing out to an International Community gave it you know its so important to say there is no reason for the approval to reforest just. That and the this is part of the problem and you can see why people are striking and not on some of the people dont understand what its why theyre striking and this is because people sometimes called upon them with absolute lice some of which manuel has just said that that case of the might of thought of this it is a was absolutely brutal and someone was and i know member of the army was convicted just last week because of these but he was never mutilated that he as he said and this was one of the false hopes that that was said and this doesnt make it any less hurtful but it they they try to to to put some false facts in between these very real denounce us as he has just made and our forces have not been very forthcoming in this active in this i took corruption which some of them have been denounced by the same armed forces and the president has been very strict saying it order it asking our or her District Attorney to investigate them and when i was still talking about these reforms and ill show you one of the big problems of the this book this colombian people are saying but we as a party that sent them a card to quit traduced a reform. In order to have less hours per week and this is partly true and theyre and theyre calling upon the young people to say that we want them to work less and therefore her best but if they would take the law we presented and read it very carefully they would understand that were asking for the work week to go from 48 hour hours to 45 hours without discount in paper i am not even tired remember even with this proposal but does thats what the texts say so theyre taking this proposals and theyre kind of very mixed in there with how to store great advice and asking people to go to the streets. Just so i hear what youre saying i want to bring in a point here based on a few things that were said this is someone whos weighing in on the killing of dylan crusoe you mentioned they write that after he was killed in some protesters demanded dismantled the riot police who had been using force to tear gas kicking our punching every Single Person they saw however he denied to do it and instead he proposed 3 days without the vat tax so this is one persons account of that and that is how its playing out to people online people who are out in the streets i want to share the comment of 2 more people because i want to push this on a little bit and i think its all under the umbrella people are telling us of lack of governance so this is lee on twitter who says as days have passed thousands of colombian citizens have joined marches to express their anger people are tired of the fear and of violence we have a peace accord and it hasnt been fully implemented to us on the peace accord but i want to push this conversation onto the video comment from a reporter her name is Frances Jenner shes a writer at the latin american reports and they and heres what she says didnt even do good came into office his popularity rating has dropped by 27 percent louis has base minimum salary and the fact that colombia is one of Fastest Growing economies in the region at the moment theres still a lot of frustrations and. One of these is in compliance with the 2016 Peace Agreement and the fact there is not enough protection for such a leaders since a Peace Agreement 700 social leaders and activists. Including me there is also rising unemployment and trying to implement. Its series of pension and labor reforms privatization tax increases and bees along with many many other reasons why people on the streets protesting. So is there so i should mention several things that weve touched weve touched on its that the nonproduction and its the noncompliance she says to this Peace Agreement why does that matter right now in d. C. Either of those things changing in peoples eyes. Yes and no and if you look at women when congressman santos are arguing this is how we are as a society were deeply divided and we cant find the path forward and a lot of people are complaining that the contrary she seems to be rudderless because a president who has been on able to join the different parties and join the different sides to cast a common narrative in a common vision for the country i feel that if you could love me if you lived one of the problems is that the ruling Democratic Center party isnt in and of itself i mean already party it can last and it needs to get support from independent parties to be able to move forward but. Its very difficult to find compromise. Between members of the Democratic Center party itself and within members of the Democratic Center and other independent parties in the middle so many people have been observing that its hard for a president to get to pass legislation and what it takes to pass legislation is a lot of compromise and i think at the moment were not having any just talk at compromise this is what president ikeda to do kautsky said just a few days ago about talking to the strikeouts have a. You know good i guess despise your guess libya has seen many declarations from the last year we heard the demands of youth and i want the space to open up a conversation where experts professors students activists researchers parliamentarians can despite perhaps their political differences arrive at a Common Ground that transcends and which favorably impacts social justice and out of the crowd i meant that veil is that conversation started happening right now it has it has it has it has been going on the National Strike committee to sit with the government because they werent willing to talk to different sectors of the society that were not inside that national National Strike committee which i believe you said was a huge mistake if this is as i stated earlier it is a very Good Opportunity to try and promote those reforms and that legislation that has that we have been unable to pass in congress im not actually agree with this said he was a statement before its very difficult for us as a party and for a president to get a president to pass legislation in this in the current state of congress but its very difficult to talk to someone who doesnt want to talk to you its very difficult to talk to someone who whose main believes they want to change the way democratically elected leader has been or is he what hes political stance is so i believe we have to find some compromise within the government find more than compromise government has to listen and we have to find some compromise within the National Strike committee in order to to get to a middle ground where we can Start Talking about that legislation i got one last sentence just to wrap this up with what we say. Yes the president in the entire he 3 of the country that has read you more than anybody else that i look with anybody. Ive been looking. And her review was there not only that yet refuse to even listen here but. Yes call me ok these reanalyzing tell refused. And thank you for being on the show today reading appreciate it and you can find myself always online keep sending your comments to twitter. As their adult column for its last a strange life and how. December on aljazeera as this year comes to an end we look ahead to 2020 and the stories that may shape the year people in power investigates the shocking truth of disabled people in Eastern Europe scared decelerating the future of the u. K. 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