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On friday where the president s legal team will need to tell the house Judiciary Committee if theyre going to be taking part in hearings that the Judiciary Committee will be convening not tomorrow on monday here in washington but starting a week from monday and that is another opportunity which House Democrats say will give the president the opportunity to tell his side to bring in witnesses to present evidence as this inquiry continues but it is widely expected here in washington that the white house will once again wait until late on friday to say that theyre not going to participate because at least from a political standpoint they are now making the argument that the entire process is fraudulent and that this is nothing more than the democrats trying to undermine the president s efforts at being reelected in 2022 other news in Iraqs Parliament has accepted the resignation of Prime Minister. And follows weeks of violent antigovernment protests which have left more than 400 people dead he will stay on to lead the caretaker government but attention now turns to just who will replace him. I know what i want a homeland i want fair rule my heart is heavy you politicians are all thieves and you need to be rooted out that the current Prime Minister resigned the parliament should resign and the party should get out we dont want any of them. Now with our demands was simple we will take changes and reforms at 1st but now weve discovered fake faces and we dont want any of them we want to change the entire constitution and the World Health Organization has raised concerns over the deepening violence in eastern democratic republic of congo it says the fighting in the area has limited Health Workers progress in containing the ebola outbreak. Prime minister Joseph Muscat says he will stand down in january after growing calls for him to resign this is over his governments handling of the murder of journalist definitely. 2 years ago president. I will write to the president of the labor party so that the process for a new leader is sit for january 12th 2020 on that day i will resign is the leader of the labor party in the days after i will resign as Prime Minister. Just a few of the stories australias foreign minister says china is subjecting one of its citizens to daily interrogations including whilst being shackled prodemocracy writes a young join has been detained in china since january accused of spying. A local official in albania has resigned of the comments she made about these death toll from last weeks deadly earthquake the mayor of the city of jurist sparked outrage when she said she was quote satisfied only 50 people died in the quake tourists is one of the hardest hit areas the 6. 00 magnitude quake killed at least 51. 00 people and left 2500. 00 homeless and thousands of protesters known as sardines have rallied in milan against the far right league party in the saudi movements become a symbol of resistance to the partys controversial leader matteo so really it started as a response to the growing strength in the north of the country of the right Wing Coalition led by billy those are your headlines studio b. Unscripted starts right now. You cant really make a record racial this was something monumentally horrific as slavery a thing under natural and we connect on our collective anger a lot of the time what it what it actually do for you is just rock. My name still isnt punk you can call me george the poet something happens over the mediterranean you go from being someones child to an immigrant im a london based spoken word artist roots in uganda. Im free im but the problem i 1st started at cambridge i want all black faces and. Im a lecturer a historian and cultural commentator i was born in india i live and work in the united kingdom. I was intrigued because how often do you get to share ideas solve problems and have a conversation with someone who knows so much about resistance and colonial power. Because i was curious he comes from a different background he has different experiences but i think all roads will cross like our stories and all identities i won this game to. Pass. Thank you so recently weve seen a lot of western universities reflecting on their possible involvement or heritage linked to Transatlantic Slave Trade your institution Cambridge University obviously the same university that i attended yeah i read some interesting tweets from you regarding the universities and. Investigating its own links to yeah every can you. Yeah i raised a few questions on one more stat it was presented as exploring if cambridge and whether and in what ways cambridge has benefited from the slave trade the point is that there is no Major Institution in britain whether its banks or financial houses or the or markets. That have not benefited from the immense Wealth Creation that slavery lets too so its not a question of if but in what ways the point is that slavery lets to benefits across societies and they were networked benefits right so if you had railways that were built in part on slave wealth generated from slavery and those railways came to your town you benefited from slavery if your students and cambridge catered for instance to any young men came from landed wealth people who had plantations an empty gold jamaica and they were paying fees to you you benefited from slavery is so i think we have to understand that its a very complex picture of benefits and also one of the thing you cant really make of reparations for something as monumentally horrific as slavery and you cant actually bring back the generations who died and were maimed and lived as chattel what you can do is stalk knowledge that it has led to the impoverishment of subsequent generations and that you can make up some uk knowledge in a financial form of the damage that was done you can actually pay back what was taken this is one of the biggest frustrations around this we often see were relations being left of the discussion whether on the political front. Economic otherwise how do you build the. Energy or the momentum. Tie all these conversations together i think there are complex conversations to be had certainly about who gets read. Peroration zone in what form those reparations are paid out leads taken by some caribbean countries to say actually you know you need to acknowledge that the poverty in the immiseration that we have inherited can be traced back through the the the centuries of empire and slavery we need to make the connections repeatedly between the present and the past in ways in which the past lives on in the present to generate that energy a thing can agree more so slavery has had consequences obviously for the caribbean countries and for parts of africa but it also has an afterlife in black british communities what do you think the kind of more consequences for immigrant communities in britain for 2nd generation 3rd generation black british young people is today i think the legacy is twofold so on the one hand you have the deep sense of displacement statelessness especially being. 2nd generation in a country that your parents may not have been received well in theres that displacement theres a sense of. Not quite belonging and not really having a measure of way your story starts and what direction you should be aspiring. To progress in yeah thats thats one half of the tragedy the other half is the miseducation of the masses on this a lot of people are literate in history and it creates the tensions this conversation is nonexistent in some of the places that need to happen more yeah why do you think that is i mean on the one hand theres miseducation as in the educational system is not acknowledging the force of things like slavery any muriel is i mean i mean i was not very much teaching my students dont come with much knowledge of it do you think that the memory off off off these historical process is dying out in communities as well so this is hard to gauge you know but what i sense the older i get and the ugly the conversation around xenophobia in this country turns what i sense is that there is a a lot of pride around empire around imperial exploits around the colonial project theres a sense of. The white mans burden still having some legitimacy and winning gains in terms of spreading knowledge and technology and so on and so forth that has gone unaddressed and unpacked for a long time so it becomes further entrenched when its passed on from generation to the young black british young people asian young people do they have any understanding of the ways in which their lives theyre shaped by their heritage of slavery and empire yeah i think the Caribbean Community that the when russia generation of 50006. He did a very good job in in cork in some sort of cultural understanding the saturday schools at the west Indian Community was very successful and set up throughout the eightys but as we know economic pressures and social. Attacks on the different fronts really made it hard for the Caribbean Community to maintain that sense of education so i i see that thats dissing disintegrated a little when it comes to my generation and it makes it hard but there is some awareness what ive found tragic is especially when you look at young people that are now for 3rd and 4th generation becoming further and further distant from the information that will give them some sort of sense of where theyre coming from what youre left with this is is a shame which i grappled with for a long time and i still do yeah this feeling of having to explain why we are in the situation that we are. In on a personal level feeling that your double your own more responsible and representing you know that the potential of your people will correct in the mistakes that are attributed to your people are yeah so in a sense we have to become cost audience of these other history communities have to grab them back and remember. For the immigrant there is no government that you are priority to you know youre not in the homeland and over here you have a government that is you know for the majority here that is reacting to your presence but is not versed in who you are right has no record of your achievement of your family so you really need to take some initiative in protecting and honoring your story yeah he said immigrant communities are not particularly anybodys priority but there is the language of diversity and inclusive its the way by were allowed to place. At the tables are a handful of us are allowed to teach at elite universities or be part of elite institutions i know that youve done some work with members off the British Royal family and theres been a lot of discussion about the fact that there is a a non white member now off the British Royal family so im just wondering whether you have thoughts about the a guest the controversial question of race and the royal family and the whole question of diversity can you diversify an institution like the royal family were not seeing. A diversifying project were seeing generational changes so prince harry is the 1st person in his. Position of his time that you know represents the monarchy in the 21st century and what his marriage to make a mark or represents is is. His love is free free choice yes its a bit weird for me trying to. Square my lets say working class black british sensibilities with my ugandan heritage because the monarchy is very important to my parents to my kingdom so we understand the idea of a shared heritage or a shared identity in what that you know that family as a symbol i may not necessarily. Have grown up you know in in the folds of that passion being out here but i respect it i do i know it means to people and i love people. Is a multifaceted question i dont know what your thoughts certainly to somebody off of indian descent the the. Empire was tied up with the fact of victoria being empress of india and the British Royal family is another British Institution which will have benefited from both slavery and empire so there is a question of for instance when we know that famous black poets have refused the honor of the o. B. E. The order of the British Empire we know that other. Black achievers have accepted it but its not uncontroversial what does it mean for people who descend from formally colonized peoples to carry the empire as an initial after their name there is that whole question of what should all relationship to the institution be should we accept you know the order of the British Empire this is so complicated for me i mean specifically. Coming from a family that is very close with the ugandan money so my grandfather was the 1st attorney general of our kingdom and went into exile with the king over here we know that the brand of colonialism that the british practiced in africa was one of the friending the chieftains and the leaders of the region and reaping the benefits of the land within the context of that relationship but at the same time it means a lot to a lot of people you know to have these affiliations and connections and i suppose that there is a question for individuals from. Minority ethnic backgrounds especially those that were on the colonial rule a question of strategy long term what do you what do you want a degree of assimilation do you want to forward in this country do you want to. Continue to build on the trauma of the past or are we just saying were ripping up the status quo and were currently figuring out because most of us dont actually have the game plan me oh yeah in your book insurgent empire you talk about resistance to colonialism played out in different contexts. What do you believe is the legacy of that resistance the book sets out to do 2 things in relation to the story the 1st is to park the mainstream british mythology is that when freedom from slavery and from empire came along it was because it was gifted by britain to go and slave and the king. So it sets out to. Question that and it points out that slaves rebelled all the time so its really important to put that back in the narrative but the 2nd aspect of the book is just as important that the resistance of slaves was heard back in britain and it helped create a tradition of criticising slavery and empire back in britain we often think of abolition as just some very nice white guys who decided that it was a very bad thing and were going to have you know free the slaves but actually if you if you look at the written works left behind by abolitionists many of them are really aware that the plantations are in from then on that slaves are rebelling that the colonized are rebelling the indentured are rebelling and so what im saying is that that we need to recover the stories of resistance not just the stories of empire and slave man both in other parts of the world but also from within britain theres a theres a minority dissidents tradition and britain which says not in our name you cant enslave and colonized people in our name and that story has been completely marginalized by mainstream history and our part of the conversation about bringing back all those stories i mean these histories have to be recovered and young white britons have to be reminded that their ancestors wont only just colonists and enslave us but that they also resisted and questions their government and those who claim to represent them. But it strikes me that there might be questions our audience wishes to ask of us or perhaps we should turn to them now please. My questions about the kaunas in the university and whether or not you think that itll be effective not just making voices heard that do not conform to the norms of academics p. But also in considering the valid forms of the production of knowledge its not just about diversifying bringing in a range of voices that is important in its own right but i always explain to my students that the colonisation is about understanding what we know why we know and also what we dont know and also recognizing that the knowledge traditions which are being claimed as european are not only european they have often drawn on the traditions of africa asia and beyond so we need to understand that the knowledge is which are not presented as being kind of great european thought have multiple lines drawing on other parts of the world and that these history is also need to be restored to their place of honor i mean decolonization is often presented as oh this is against you know why people its not its about saying that the world is diverse and knowledge has been produced across different parts of the globe we need to honor the fact that europe often drew on other traditions in order to produce its knowledge my question is do you think that there is an ascendant orthodoxy on the political left that is weaponize ing identity politics to breed competitive victimhood. And tribalism in a way that undermines Martin Luther kings dream that we would be judged by the content of our character and not by the color of our skin whatever. Strand of identity one gives primacy to thank you great question i think is happening on both. The left and the road to characterize it as either playing into it. We see that these kind of identity politics. Play up in times of economic downturn or you know in tandem with cycles of. Big changes as we see in. Western europe and other parts of the world when the political rhetoric becomes increasingly polarized and divisive i see it as a dialectic and something that dialogue respectful dialogue Contact People being in close proximity with one another can begin to address and break down its like its something awful i think a false narrative everybody has an identity everybody is political in one sense or the other so identity politics is with us the difference is whether it is recognized as identity politics or whether it is not so the white majority has an identity and it has a politics so it is often wimmin or black people who are accused of having an identity politics but in fact in an institution like cambridge is full of either white identity politics its all over the place i cant thank them without. Coming up back against an assertion of aggressive whiteness theyre just living about victimhood today who is claiming victimhood its launch really white elite men theyre claiming persecution theyre friendly theyre. Strong trump a multimillionaire claims he represents victims. You know and theres a range of commentators in britain constantly claiming theyre being persecuted by people of color and aggressive woke up black and brown women this is a nonsensical narrative and i think that we should say this narrative as floored it does not represent reality and we need to have an honest conversation that isnt determined by the sort of myth or the tree of oppressed white men suffering at the hands of identity politics. Weve talked about how their eminence of slavery and colonialism have evidently left us with this ystem that is you know stacked against us but i would like to know whether you think that change is better effected by so working within the system working our way up that way or being kind of more of an outside Disruptive Force whats really the way forward for young people essential to find the good fire is accepting that the changes you want to see might not happen in your lifetime thats a hard pill to swallow but its something that i am definitely grappling with not just on the western front being here. In the diaspora but also when i return to the homeland the 1st thing i have to accept is that its not just about me feeling happy with my sphere of existence you were really apply yourself to a Long Term Strategy a long term understanding of the challenges 2nd on an individual level i think is really important for us all to take responsibility of ourselves of our personal sense of awareness what who you are who i am this is why this is the journey that ive been on in poetry at one point i was a cambridge student before that i was a one of the few black boys and in a Grammar School after i went straight into the Music Industry all of this stuff really disoriented me and its only through taken time and articulate in myself and given just given myself my whole twentys to come to terms with who i am that i was able to pinpoint my contribution and land on exactly what i can stomach and exactly what i am able to do i can stomach working with the royal family some people couldnt and it shouldnt be expected of me to you know want to bring everyone. To the same for the fighting one thing i want to add to that its true that change happens on many fronts and we each position ourselves differently in relation to change and i think that change dos happen if all of us work to change but equally we also have to be aware that sometimes it is presented to us as something that only people from above can do it i think part of reclaiming our personal agencies to be able center everybody can can effect change and you do not have to be a member of the royal family or a cambridge dawn has and in my case to be able to make effective interventions but i think wherever we are we can choose to keep a critical perspective i think that is absolutely essential we could be part of any institution but to say im not going to inhabit it fully im not going to buy it story is as selfevident truths im going to sit on the margins and examine things in all their reality and in all their honesty. 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The World Health Organizations raised concerns over the deepening violence in eastern democratic republic of congo and says the fighting in the area has limited Health Workers progress in containing the above the outbreak maltas Prime Minister just of moscow says he will stand down in january after growing calls for him to resign it is over his governments handling of the murder of journalist daphne 2 years ago. Straight his foreign minister says china is subjecting one of its citizens to daily interrogations including whilst being shackled prodemocracy riot a young girl and has been detained in china since january 6th used to spying the foreign minister marie spains as yang is being held in unacceptable conditions on the urging beijing to release him. And a local official in albania has resigned over comments she made about the death toll from last weeks deadly earthquake the mayor of the city of the arrest sparked outrage when she said she was quote satisfied only 50 Percent People actually died in the quake tourists was one of the hardest hit areas tuesdays 6. 00 magnitude quake killed at least 51. 00 people and left about 2500. 00 people. Up to that the headlines and thats my lot for today thanks for your Company Studio b. Unscripted continues next. The British Royal familys another British Institution which will have benefited from both slavery and empire for immigrant there is no government there you are priority this is something much victim hood today who is claiming victim politics its a largely white man. Can you tell us a little bit about your own journey from where you grew up to cambridge which is a very distinctive kind of place and often involves a degree of Culture Shock can you say a little bit more about what that is entail so it only occurred to me i only grew up around black people. To this day 46 percent black african and at the time was put predominantly caribbean so what that afforded me was a very strong sense of self i was. You know within the Caribbean Community but part of an african family that had a very strong sense of cultural identity so so so many points in my life i had to affirm and reaffirm who i was. Take pride in my point of difference and celebrate that so by the time i got to a Grammar School it was shaken a little bit it was shaken a little bit when i learned what what what black and est meant to other people i never knew that we had all these middle class white and indian and. Chinese kids asking me about you know whats it like on the estate is it is it dangerous is it. You know you spoke a little bit elsewhere about your going to the Grammar School appreciating the discipline that it gave you but also being troubled by what you saw as the enforcement of white norms. Can you say a little bit more about that yeah so im very grateful for the school that i went to but i definitely got the message that a sensible gentleman a credible person. Is x. And x. Doesnt do that doesnt sound like that doesnt talk about it doesnt walk or dress like that. And that really really disturbed me for a long time because i really absorb that narrative you know and its not until i really came into my own as a poet in cambridge having to articulate my experience with my own words our dialect our colloquialisms to audiences that are not part of our world that i really started to except maybe even after graduating and presenting myself to the world and started to do t. V. And news appearances i still have these rules in my mind dont embarrass your parents dont talk how you talk with your friends because how you talk to your friends is clearly criminal you know and it takes a while before you realise all the ways in which this feeds into the harassment and misunderstanding criminal criminalization hypermasculine a zation of young black men in particular what it what it poetry do for you again and this is an explanation there are often not often but in my early years i kind of swerve this explanation but its rap. Its just right. Here because i was like all these poets techniques and devices that were studying in the curriculum are done to a much higher standard and. So that emboldened me you know. Definitely so for your when weve spoken youve referenced your own upbringing and how that gave you a privileged outlook in many respects how do you make sense of that now ive had oh an upbringing that was partly subcontinental and partly in the west and. In india although im a woman i belong to an upper caste i belong to. A community that. In a way like like you know white britains does not see its own privileges does not see its own advantages and very frequently likes to think of itself as the victim because other people are making them on so. The lower costs. A non traditional dominance communities are making demands when im in the west as a woman of color against a white Majority Society i can see i can see it the other way around that i can see how White Privilege works i have a certain double consciousness around this which is i know what its like to be part of a vulnerable minority i also know what its like to be part of a privileged majority that a doesnt understand its privileges being feels like a victim when challenged on those privileges so in a funny way i actually see how whiteness operates i sometimes sterile. White men who are a bit threatened. That you know what i actually know what its like to be weighed because in my country im a white woman. In my country im a white woman and ive been to that process where ive only thought about gender and not thought about my cost privilege in the way that we are familiar with you know women here talking about gender but not talking about their racial privilege so i think the overall consequences to understand that not enough us are necessarily only victims or only oppressors i think that part of our exploration of colonialism and decolonization has to also involves understanding all role in it you know what is the what is the heritage we come from what did our ancestors do in relation to the imperial project who was a decolonisation isnt about saying oh well all white people are terrible and all people of color are grey. Its never been about that ridiculous narrative that is often propagated as the victim narrative its about 7 saying we were all influenced by this huge historical process that unfolded over you know several centuries and i always begin my lectures to students in the beginning of to im saying i am here because of colonialism colonialism picked a group of elites indians to be taught english and to be made in english in every way but blood and color and i am the descendant of the people who were treated as privileged intermediaries between the Colonial Government and the millions whom we govern and so for me to say that im here because im great and i just did the hard work and i got here without some nonsensical narrative im i am i teach today at cambridge partly because of inherited privilege so to what extent do you think youve been able to change narratives or to what extent is your work aimed at changing narratives that we dont often question so i think this goes back to earlier point that we discussed about cost or your ship of astoria being our responsibility i think through poetry even just the move from rap to poetry ive been able to say to guys you know that the rumors that we just took for granted that you as a young black man. If you know the hardest and youre not the most chauvinist stick then youre you know its harder to know its you youre less valid in those rules are. Completely redundant if you say theyre. You know it gives people license to decide exactly who they want to be and that im able to impute that simply by cherry picking the aspects of my own vironment that i want i want to absorb but if theres a self destructive Oppositional Force that comes along with it that is kind of like taken for granted because 17 years old my biggest fear was another 17 year old black boy i dont like that one someone else can say that its not for me that kind of thinking. It needs to be scaled and its very hard when we dont have custody and ship of our own story to ensure that all of our young people are getting that message and what that what sort of stories do you think would actually help make for change at manifest levels like what kinds of things that you think people dont think about that they should be about so few years ago i went to ted conference in vancouver yeah and these guys were talking this is that was the big argument the ethics of basically a visa system for mars this was 2015 or talk about interplanetary exploration lays a new laser treatment face hiv thats whats missing thats whats missing in communities like mine an awareness of more than racism for a lot of young black people the what is wrong with our situation is kind of delegated to us as our business you must spend the rest of the next 20 years fighting the ills of this society however if you really were invited to these conversations about mars if you thought a stake in cutting edge laser treatment to revolutionize. The battle against hiv if you really thought some ownership in that you would be run in that in that. Direction and i see i see that with a lot of much poorer young people on the african continent so i mean are you suggesting that what you describe is kind of self destructive ness is connected to not thinking about where else you could go but kind of focusing on the ills that you suffer statelessness we dont belong to anything. Thats why a lot of young people can take the lives of another person. Who am i was. Fallen from or what was the big and car that i need to break out of in order to you know become. More rate you regard anger as a young as a young man yourself youre still young but as a teenager do you think is a an unproductive that is self Destructive Force or do you think it can have consequences that are beneficial. I think natural. Doesnt do productive unproductive nature is is nature in my life has been helpful ive been able to and in what way is ive been able to channel it to my starts to just figure out exactly what i want to be in the world why i want to be these things a lot of the Unanswered Questions about who i am and why my environment is the way it is drove me to become a socialist and empowered me to be able to feed back into my community and we connect on a collective under all of the i dont know what your experience of that has been i would say all the thinkers who have theorized resistance and change and rebellion at some level have been driven by indignation by a sense that injustices have been committed and the world has to be set to right so i completely concur that anger can have it can manifestly have sort of destructive consequences if its not thought about and not channelized towards thinking through facts so you know currently we have certain forms of majority rage in many contexts not just in britain and contexts across the world but that rage i think is different from righteous indignation you can be angry and you can blame any number of people you want for your situation that doesnt mean its factually correct but legitimately harnessed indignation which studies the situation and understands what injustice is are and thinks about it carefully that can be a very productive kind of emotion but random rage at having your privileges snatched away i think thats thats one of the dangers that were looking at in the present interest and so use in the ability to articulate exactly where your anger comes from is what legitimizes young girl i think to understand what it is youre upset about and who is who and what is rationally responsible for. So in a situation where youre upset about austerity it doesnt make sense to blame immigrants it is your government and it is the rich of this country who have inflicted austerity and. So this is to say that anger makes sense if you can wield it with precision and with wield it with care simply lashing out at the nearest vulnerable object in rage thats not a good thing. Is it does not become a double edged sword when we get really you know the age of the demagogue. Able to put together a narrative that holds true in the minds of a lot of the audience it is extremely wanting in my own country we now have the rise of majority hindu nationalism which absolutely feeds off the rage of people are and invites them to think about muslims as their main enemy and in fact it has been immensely successful and it is immensely dangerous and i was tremendously about a nation that is still fairly young its about 70 you know 70 odd years old which began as a kind of dream of inclusiveness inclusive ety and secularism and multiple religions flourishing now turned into a singular rage against minority groups and i think thats deeply dangerous. I think we have some orders questions that so many of us in this room have benefited open of fisheries of the legacy of the British Empire. But a lot to ask you is should we take responsibility for its wrongdoings of the past and what do you think are the best ways that we can atone for sins in the modern. The 1st thing i want to say is that im personally dont use the language of atonement and repentance i mean i think if people want to atone thats a private act between them and their god or their church the language of responsibility is slightly different colonialism didnt end all that long ago for many african countries they ended in the 1980 s. So you know its within a lot of peoples living memories and the continent of africa and much of asia struggles with those legacies so what we have to do is to say what are the manifest ways in which populations peoples communities within this country have been damaged by the legacies of slavery and colonialism and one of the ways in which we can start to enact structural changes which address the disenfranchisement and the injustice we cannot have an attitude to the past where we say were really proud about you know the 2nd world war and the british victory in the 2nd world war but colonialism that was in the past i think that that particular fault opposition has to be. My question is more how in generalities when police beat us the kind of be unable to find our own identity how do you think be able to overcome that in regards to not being able to be our general selves at work and if anything will ever be done about it. I think. Back to the idea of statelessness and us not necessarily feeling like we have a space different communities different ethnic minority communities have different coping strategies for that kind of. Dynamic often my asian friends were quite happy to talk to their names or their appearances in order to just you know move on. In our world as a you know a black person its a to boo its like dont dont Start Playing with your name as a disrespect your ancestors however i also became aware that not everyone takes that personally and i think oftentimes that community in the family so Something Like doctor in your name for the school is just business is just a transaction dont take it that personally however i feel that when it comes to us or me me in particular with that stay with that sense of statelessness i take a final a lot harder to make those kinds of decisions and the solution that i have created over time is just to make my own space where i only account for myself and that happens through enterprise but before the enterprise aspect it had to happen person and you had to be in cambridge and be able to just be exactly what i am so until you reach that sense of absolution. There will always be that tension on the front of the workplace or wherever else you have to do it this. I always come across this term i dont see color i think there is color blindness expression when i have conversations about identity politics with 2nd or 1st generation immigrants and they say oh if i recognize raise this Structural Racism im perpetuating this thinking obviously we see color and from my observations most of the people who bring up this term are relatively well off or they win the game already so in my understanding for these game winner they are supposed to have more issues showing Cultural Capital to be the game changer but why would they have to scream of thinking and what were your advice to talk to these kind of people you know there are penalties for talking about race my 1st 15 years at cambridge i never use the word race or whiteness or anything. It was very clear that the norms enforced the fact that anybody who discussed race was a troublemaker so 2nd and 3rd generation people who want to be successful and you say they are you know fairly well off. Lets face it they are understand the price to be paid for being incorporated into the main stream off the society and 1. 00 of the things that you are required to do in your door to do several things with one is play the game that theres no color nobody sees color and therefore there is no racism but you have to collude in that mythology secondly you are invited to perpetuate the mythologies of the Mainstream Society so you not only agree to play along you also act as its mouthpiece you know that you know theres theres a problem with identity politics is a problem with the right people claiming victimhood theres a problem with snowflakes theres a problem with you know no platform so i think we need to. Think about that tony is a finger agent that people of color are required to use in order to be successful and i think that you in a sense you answered your own question. There is also the very real experience of a lot of people of color who feel a point feel burdened by this constant conversation of race like i said were taught a young age that our business thats where you get to do it thats where you get to be an expert any time you see a young black person on the news but theyre going to be talking about race but. I personally can identify with a frustration with that that cycle for example last year i had an incident with the police i was sitting in my car the engine was of our summer parents house they search me for weapons now that is classic Racial Discrimination but one phrase that i kept repeating because the thing was recorded and a lot of people saw it and some people took issue with this particular phrase a gibson ad i dont have time for this and thats the frustration of a black man thats been dealing with this all his life im bored. Look i want to talk about these are 2 months. Worth of them. So i grew free of there is a degree of game playing among a lot of us but there is also a degree of exasperated and frustration because were not given the tools to have these conversations in a constructive way to extend that story i was on b. B. C. Question time later on that year and i was thrown a question about immigration a mention the word than a for we are. Really upset a lot of people so we often find that theres a circular element of conversations about race that puts us off talking about it or seeing it in general and sometimes that you have to read the situation and give people that but respectful distance. This is a question for george actually you and priya have discussed. Only shes on racism and prejudice but it would be nice to hear your views as a poet huge so you can you recite a poem for us. One poet. Ok. The defining characteristic of a hate crime is not actually hate its prejudice we use the word hate to define it because the prejudice is born of a hateful climate but a crime is a collective mood its not an individual selective move now in the face of political ineptitude we only have one option lets improve has such a strong word for such a weak emotion a wound quiet hero if hatred keeps it open. No wounds can be physically revealed but they do deserve the ability to heal. Thank you. Thanks for the so thanks to. Who would have thought then our rich country we use hunger as a weapon its perch more difficult to be left wing than to be right wing you know because you know history of the left is full of lies and betrayals when people say im right because they are really right with you and how it has to be subversive if you dont have a level of anger about you then stand. From the aljazeera in london broke us into 2 special guests in conversation who would have still been in the rich countries we used hunger as a weapon im from uninterrupted much more difficult to be left wing tend to be right wing when people family life think they are really right in kenya like. Ours have to be subversive if you dont have a level of anger about you then stay at home studio be unscripted its on aljazeera many countries arent keeping up with their commitments to stop our planets heating up candy achieve anything at the Un Climate Change Conference in madrid. As representatives from over 200. 00 countries gather for a cop 25. 00 join us for special coverage on aljazeera. How the weathers changing in turkey now the cloud has been rolling strohs produce rains fast sciences lebanon a good part of Northern Syria its just wiped out of the satellite picture but it translates to snow of the high ground in eastern turkey and rain to the south that rain does spread along way south to focus on monday takes it all the way down towards q 8 significant rain seems likely over the plains of iraq and of the high grounds and is iran it turns readily to snow terence of 15 degrees it cools down to some degree but choose to add 10 was clearly the high ground covered in snow not far away from you this is going to be sundry rain as well and its creeping rather right side through the gulf youll notice but it leaves behind it the sunshine is 80 danker its about 19 in beirut for tuesday so the rain is coming south and not immediately monday it might reach q. H. And ahead of it quite a strong wind will bring dusty weather up through riyadh possibly back rain and q 8 the not dampens down and the rain chances of just visible quite possibly from bahrain or even from doha which sits quietly and warmly at 28. 00 degrees in Southern Africa were watching the rains come size they have made it yet but watch out in tanzania could be quite heavy. Join me maybe ill put the up front questions to my special guests. Some Straight Talk the political debate here on aljazeera. The white house declares President Donald Trump one to participate in the next impeachment hearings calling the proceedings basis. Hello there im a start the a 10 this is al jazeera live from doha also coming up the search for a new leader in iraq after huge often violent protests forced the resignation of Prime Minister abdul mahdi. Someone shuts down its government and ordered staff to help contain a Measles Outbreak that killed more than 50 people mostly children. And as World Leaders gather for climate talks in spain well explore what to stake for fragile River Systems in kenya. Now the white house says it will not take part in the next step of the impeachment inquiry into donald trump the us president had been given until sunday to confirm whether or not hed send legal representatives to a hearing on wednesday the white house says it will respond separately about a 2nd hearing which has a friday deadline the u. S. President is accused of asking ukraine to investigate political rival joe biden and bidens son in exchange for military aid while its a busy week ahead for the impeachment inquiry members of the House Intelligence Committee are due to receive a copy of the impeachment report later on monday it will outline the findings of its investigation into trumps dealings with ukraine theyll have 24 hours to review that report and