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That he may try to work something out so that they have the cash flow that they need perhaps bringing in Oil Companies to try and make a deal in further securing the oil so it seems the u. S. President has a lot of ideas often theyre not vetted before he speaks with policy makers even top members of the pentagon and that was certainly true with the announcement of this troop withdrawal as he was that would be the case with some of these comments as well but the bottom line the u. S. President saying that he doesnt want to leave u. S. Troops in syria and then noting that when he brought this up at a recent rally in dallas texas that is when he got his largest cheer of the evening we also just looking at what was going on inside that Cabinet Meeting can really seem to get snapshots of a free range donald trump where he was talking about him being impeached he wasnt talking he didnt use the words the impeachment inquiry he was actually talking about impeachment. Yes and he was asked that directly by one of the reporters in the room his Cabinet Meetings are often like his twitter feed theyre all over the map in terms of topics so he came back and forth between syria and peach with those seem to be the 2 topics dominating he was asked if he thinks he would be impeached he would only say that he thought this impeachment inquiry was illegitimate and he also said that he believes the motivations of the democrats are that is the only way they can win the 2020 us election so in other words he believes this impeachment inquiry will keep going he also pointed the finger at his fellow republicans who we know from the news media here in the United States have grown very tired of trying to defend the president on a number of issues not just of pietschmann not just syria but even his decision at one point to hold the g. 7 meeting at his property in darrelle florida the u. S. President saying that republicans need to get tougher they need to fight amid this impeachment inquiry and then he attacked the man who is leaving it and that is adam schiff a congressman who is chair of the House Intelligence Committee you also maintain that he believes it is the democrats and the media that are corrupt that he once again reiterated something weve heard many times in this president whether a person or on his twitter feed and that is that the basement or sort of the basis of this impeachment inquiry he maintains is that the phone call that he had with the ukrainian leader in which its alleged that he dangled or withholding aid in exchange for an investigation against his political rivals he maintains once again that there was no pressure to do that and in his words it was a perfect phone Call Committee thank you so much. Facebook says its suspended accounts linked to russia and iran which targeted u. S. Users with political messages the american tech giant says russians targeted votes in swing states such as florida and virginia they pretended to be locals and posted comments on both sides of the political spectrum discussing 2020 president ial candidates. Still to come on out 0 canadians both can just include a hold on this Prime Minister the countrys tight election race. And there a few more shots across areas across iraq and also eventually iran the cloud is a bit of a clue as to whether she could be now through cheese day the rain is very widely scattered through areas attacking but as i say is working its way down into more than areas of iraq and just pushing across into the west of iran it stays in relatively the same places it does as you can see one system actually goes straight. Which is actually a few degrees below the average for this time of year and often we say that and the temperatures externally coming down as well further to the south across the peninsula all of this moisture coming from a disturbance in the back bengal but not really reaching these areas maybe just a shower into the coast of oman by wednesday probably less so the chance of that about 33 and and such a 2 across in abu dhabi meanwhile down into south africa here were dealing with a heat wave is being very hot sunny so temperatures well above the average particularly enjoyed. By but no real rain in the full cost of course we do desperately need the rain 32 choose to enjoy on his back maybe just destroyed and those he had into wednesday assen a story with a high of 28. Overthrown and exiled. Say if you are all wrong dismiss me an intimate film about the struggle of the elected leader of madagascar to return to his country and reinstate his presidency you know is the true issue and we do not think is the. Case for return of the president on aljazeera. Welcome back youre watching aljazeera our top story today lebanons Prime Minister. Has announced a series of reforms to appease protesters things could be cut in some politicians salaries in half and reducing the countrys huge deficit he says he would also support early elections lebannon Prime Ministers proposal has done little to end the 5 days of protest thousands of demonstrators continue to voice their disapproval over the government. U. S. President troops in Northern Syria is largely holding despite some skirmishes wilson says the u. S. Never gave Kurdish Forces a commitment before pulling out of the region. Prime ministers push to have a straight yes or no vote on his brakes a deal in parliament has been blocked the speaker of the house of commons said the vote was too similar to one held on saturday and wouldnt go ahead now the next chance to vote will be on tuesday rory chalons joins us live from westminster rory as ever with bricks at things forward and theyre in for a busy old few days inside the house of commons. Absolutely so basically parliamentarians had rules that in order to make the Withdrawal Agreements from the European Union constitutionally legally had to clear 2 main hurdles it had to have a meaningful vote in which they said yes to it in principle and then it had to go through the normal legislative process of being made into a bill and passed into law now it didnt actually matter which order those 2 came in but the government was hoping that it could get the meaningful vote done 1st before the Withdrawal Agreement bill that would give its essential the momentum going into that soldiers process of actually nailing it down into law give them a psychological edge so john bercow the speaker has basically ruled that was not allowed to happen because of the vote that was amended in the houses of parliament on saturday so essentially now the government has to go into this Withdrawal Agreement and build process without really knowing whether it has the numbers to get it through and that is a bit of a dents in the governments confidence and it means that the process of pushing it through is going to become even more torturous than it was already going to be does that mean that Boris Johnson a number 10 is tonight probably thinking hes losing momentum here. What it could well but of course this has many twists and turns as we see over the days and weeks and months and years since this started and but this is going to be a very very crucial and perhaps decisive week for brakes it because this Withdrawal Agreement bill is basically the nuts and bolts of how britain comes out of the European Union and what opposition parties want to do is to perhaps try and amend that Withdrawal Agreement bill as it goes through the house of commons perhaps attaching an amendment that means that the u. K. Stays inside the Customs Union perhaps attaching an amendment that says that it has to be put back to the people in a 2nd referendum or perhaps voting it down entirely now of course the government is going to be fighting that the government wants this thing to pass through as quickly as possible it wants to get this through parliament by the end of the week now most m. P. s many m. P. s are going to be saying whoa whoa thats way too fast this is incredibly important bit of constitutional legislation one of the most important constitutional changes to the u. K. In living memory and it needs more time to get that nailed down but of course the government is still thinking that it can get out of the e. U. By the 31st of october and it is going to try everything it can can do to make that happen ok rory will leave it there many thanks. Now protests are taking place in several cities across sudan as thousands mark 55 years since their 1st revolution sudans new Prime Minister and suffering council with military and civilian members were sworn in 2 months ago followed months of Political Uncertainty and violence protesters are calling for all former regime members still in government positions to be removed to morgan now from khartoum. Its been more than 6 months since a dancer former longtime president ahmed bashir was our state largely because of protests very much like beanies but people are saying that 6 months on they feel that the revolution that they started in december is incomplete theyre saying that this still feel that members of the former ruling party are in power and that they share the government which they had said blood for this thing that they want justice and accountability for those who have been killed so to commemorate the anniversary of the 1st revolution that happened inside out in 164 called the of the revolution people came out in the thousands in the army not just here in particular here but in various other states around the country as well theyre demanding justice and accountability and theyre saying that 1 they were once but now Transitional Government which is a large civilian they want that government to ensure them that that justice will be delivered but also that members of the former very party will be held to account for any crimes committed since they came to power in 1809 so weve got people here protesting saying that theyre going to march to Freedom Square which is great that has been named after the revolution started theyre saying that theyre going to march to their theyre going to make their demands and loud and clear and that its not exceed if it doesnt feel they will feel that their revolution is not complete and not yet successful and that. The police in hong kong are patrolling the streets as prodemocracy activists continue to voice anger over a ban on face masks this comes as a Chinese Communist Party Newspaper described hong kongs Education System as a disease that must be treated the author described liberal study is being taught at schools as fostering illegal behavior and government demonstrations began 5 months ago sparked by an extradition bill which was later shelved. A state of emergency in the chilean capital santiago is now being extended to other parts of the country as well at least 11 demonstrators have been killed in the rioting the former chilean president Michelle Bachelet is calling for an independent investigation the military has been deployed to control the civil unrest against the transport pharaohs has been reversed after the protests began the chilean government has extended a nighttime curfew to cities all over the country a court in london has denied a request to delay the extradition hearing for the wiki leaks founder Julian Assange on the 48 year old remains in custody as he tries to fight extradition to the u. S. Where he faces charges of conspiring to hack into a government computer at the pentagon is legal team asked for a 3 month delay to prepare their case however the judge ruled a full hearing will go ahead in february as planned. Canadians have been voting on a tightly contested election thats expected to produce a heavily divided Parliament Polls suggest its a deadlock between the Prime Minister just intruders the liberal party and their rival as conservatives in 3rd place is the n. D. P. With jacques meet seeing at the helm making significant gains in the last few days to form a majority government a party will need to secure 170. 00 seats in parliament which polls suggest is unlikely and in case of a minority Government Support from other parties will be crucial to pass the legislation daniel lak has more from toronto. Its been pretty brisk here at this Downtown Toronto polling station turnout so far polls are open across the eastern part of canada its a huge country with 5 time zones and itll take pretty much 12 hours to get all the voting done and the count underway at the campaign has been pronounced by many commentators as less than inspirational it certainly hasnt budged the numbers of the of the Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and his liberal government incumbent government and the conservative challenger Andrew Scheer there are quite a few differences between them on issues like Climate Change mr trudeau says he wants to fight it aggressively mr scherer seems to be more hands off about it the other parties in the race have also done well at the expense of the 2 main parties there is the separatist bloc a backwash in quebec which could end up holding at the balance of power if theres a minority situation if this close vote is that reflective of the Public Opinion polls and also the green party and the social Democrats New Democratic Party theyve also done very well in the campaign canadians tend to be enthusiastic voters the sort of historical turnout level is around 70 percent advance polling was very strong this time around so its all going to have to wait for the opinion of the voters to be reflected in the votes Public Opinion polls dont have a great record in modern times and well have to wait and see what is actually going to be the situation will we have another majority government in canada a minority and if so who will it be its really not clear at all right now. Abortion and same sex marriage in Northern Ireland will be legalized in just a few hours but the historic changes of spot controversy especially because they were brought in by the u. K. Parliament not the assembly in Northern Ireland need explains from belfast. Campaigners have gathered outside the power sharing assembly here at stormont and anticipation of seismic changes to the law because midnight laws surrounding abortion and same sex marriage will change bringing Northern Ireland in line with the rest of the u. K. At the moment Northern Ireland has some of the strict to support laws anywhere in the world is but underneath all circumstances including cases of rape incest and fatal fetal abnormalities when a fetus has very little to 0 chance of surviving outside the womb for many campaigners these changes are a matter of human rights at midnight history will be me it finally we will say good bye to these oppressive laws that have police star bodies and our health care no longer will women who need abortions be treated as criminals this has been a Long Time Coming but finally our rights and our health care is being brought into the 21st century so why are these changes happening well for the past 2 and a half years the power sharing government here at stormont hasnt been fully functioning it collapsed way over 1000 days ago in the midst of a Corruption Scandal and the problem has been made significantly worse as a result of brechts it its upset the balance between unionists who identify as british nationalists who identify as irish and it significantly reduce the incentive on members of the power sharing assembly from coming back and taking up their seats not everyone here though is happy about these forthcoming changes to the law for many its seen as stripping away the rights of the unborn child we will in continue to ensure that the unborn child has a voice and we will expose the politicians here in the field to turn up here today to form a government in order to stop this terrific piece of legislation from being forced in Northern Ireland while some members of the assembly have actually come back here for the 1st time in 2 and a half years to take up their seat largely in protest against these forthcoming changes. The law but not enough of them are here to be able to block it given the absence of any fully functioning assembly or government the government in westminster now has had more of a say about what happens here in Northern Ireland going forward. Lots more news on our website the address you need house 0 dot com our top story there as well front page on the web site leprechauns Company Reforms following the protests. This is al jazeera piece it will be here in doha these are your top stories the lebanese Prime Minister today announcing a series of new reforms as tens of thousands protest demanding his resignation saad hariri promised to cut in half salaries of some politicians he also vowed to get banks to contribute over 3000000000. 00 towards the deficit and wont add new taxes in the budget in 2020 u. S. Troops across into iraq as part of their withdrawal from Northern Syria a convoy has gone to the sahil a Border Crossing in the Northern Province of the hook its heading into territory controlled by the peshmerga in Northern Iraq semi autonomous kurdish region meanwhile the u. S. President donald trump in the last hour or so said the u. S. Is not responsible for remaining alongside Kurdish Forces. But we helped the kurds and we never gave the kurds a commitment that wed stay for the next 400 years or protect them theyve been fighting with the turks for 300 years that people know of. And nobody ever committed gee if you do this were going to do that were going to stay with you forever nobody ever said that weve secured the oil if you remember i didnt want to go into iraq i was a civilian so i dont power over it but i always was thinking against going into iraq was. A great decision but i always say if youre going to keep the. Same thing if you. Keep. And well work something out for the kurds so that they have some money they have some cash flow maybe well get one of our big Oil Companies to go in and do it properly. The british Prime Ministers push to have a straight yes or no vote on his bricks that deal in parliament was blocked today speaker of the house of commons thats in there john bercow said the vote was too similar to the one already held last saturday israels Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has returned the mandate of forming the countrys next government to the president after failing to secure support for a coalition not his rival but against is now expected to be handed the task Facebook Says it suspended the counseling to russia and iran which talks with us users with political messages the us tech giant says russians talk to votes in swing states like florida and virginia they pretended to be locals and posted comments on both sides of the political spectrum discussing 2020 president ial candidates a congressional probe found the troll pharmacy also sowing discord through social media out of the 2016 election up next inside story all season. Im going on to hong kong haiti to the u. K. People are out on the streets demanding change the issues are many problems ruction to Climate Change so as global protests appear to be on the rise we ask whats driving these demonstrations and this is inside story. Hello and welcome to the program im Richelle Carey people in different parts of the world are increasingly expressing their discontent with our governments policies its impossible these days for us to report the news without mentioning a protest somewhere in the world many of the specific issues may be different but there are common themes at the core corruption and justice Climate Change human rights are testers for challenging authorities even in places where it was once considered unthinkable to do so but just as the demands are varied so are the outcomes some have found success through their campaigns others have not and governments are divided on how to address what appears to be a global phenomenon of protest movements take a closer look at some of the protests that are happening right now and lebanon crowds are calling for a complete overhaul of their government angry over a crumbling economy hong kong has experienced months of protests against what seen as a growing influence from beijing and catalonia days of marches have consumed the regions streets as the pro and anti secession movements make their voices heard in chile sudan haiti and around the world people are angry and theyre out on the streets. And i will slow i am for the reforms i am against the destruction of lebanon lebanon has been badly damaged by the politicians for 30 years today their thrones are shaking i am with the reforms and early parliamentarian elections would become one if you have a little good. Morality a little bit of nationalism if you have a little bit of love for the country didnt please hand over the keys because the people come stand it any longer i ask you to step down step down let the people go we cant take it any longer i think with the specific and social injustices everywhere the minority concentrates hold the wealth this is about how the robot in supermarkets in health care how they profit with our pensions. And there have been some a store protest over the past 10 years the arab spring of course took place in 2011 it shook the foundations of countries across north africa and the middle east and the u. S. The killing of an unarmed black man triggered nationwide marches that gave rise to the black lives Matter Movement and 2014 an uprising in ukraine altered the course of that country the recent yellow best move in in france and bricks of protests in the u. K. Seek to do the same and Latin America Corruption and struggling economies have triggered mass protests in brazil in venezuela and earlier this year a Global Climate strike rallied support from millions around the world. Lets bring in our panel now joining us and winchester the u. K. Matt clemente a senior lecturer in the department of applied social sciences at the university of winchester and berlin john betty skull open a sociologist to receive a doctorate from Yale University earlier this year and in lancaster also in u. K. A melinda misra a senior lecturer in the department of politics philosophy and religion welcome to all of you matt ill start with you is it just us or does it seem like that there has been a decade of protests and that the numbers really seem to be increasing at least over the past year or 2. I think it has been a decade of protests as you said really that 2011 was when it kicks off in a quite a big scale not just in the arab world but also with anti austerity protests in greece in britain over pensions in france acception cetera and the occupy movement in spain so that was quite a big man in america of course and that was quite a big start to it but really its only continued since then. What it what if your observations been as it seems that that every week every month every week there is a new protest and it seems to be varied in its locations theres not a continent it seems that hasnt been touched by this. Yeah i think its typical of protest movements to come in waves i mean in europe experience you see it in 48 and there is an emulation aspect to these movements people see. Other countries are going for these movements and they start you know following the example but i think if you look at what events events unfold at a national level. Its a lot of the time has to do with informal movements and you know the traditional conventional wisdom in the social science studies this is that the social Movement Organizations proceed 1st back meeting resources or they see a political opportunity and then the jump in but what you see actually as a new love this case is people react to an event that really causes indignation and anger and this 1st kind of explosion of unrest then encourages people to take for their actions so this is what you see right now in lebanon with. This decision by the government to tax website calls which really symbolized i think the iniquity of the lebanese government and prompted a number of people to go on the streets and very quickly the dynamics change and the protest movement takes life on its own and has a great point on the window at id like your thoughts on that too is there some sort of commonality when it comes to. A Tipping Point that really pushes people out in the streets obviously for varying countries in oh theres always different. Underlying issues that perhaps then bubbling up but is there a Common Thread when it comes to a Tipping Point where people to say im not taking this anymore. Well at the heart of this debate or at the heart of this undertaking what we have is something called if you see it trust it will no longer trust in their governments people are no longer saddened that whatever the government is doing on their behalf is for their good and that is one of the reason why people are coming out into the street so the Tipping Point that youre talking about is when people realize that they have to take things onto their own hands to make that change to bring about their transformation and that is exactly what were witnessing from hong kong to. Equal though from our spring to what is happening now in chile so there is not only the deficit to trust but people also feel that they can bring about their transformation they do not need that government they do not need the Office Operators to bring about their plans for medicine so that belief in the power of their own self belief the Community Spirit has properly these movements to the forefront that we have been witnessing in the last one decade or so. Uniting to that when he said death it is a deficit. Of trust and that that being the Tipping Point but when you talk about a deficit of trust what are the types of things that contribute to that thats got to be a really extreme thing for people to to feel like theyre theyre almost in a loan and their governments not in it with them. Absolutely but i think thats the point that extremism or radicalism is becoming more mainstream becomes a more normal option for many people to take perhaps in the past would not have considered it this is because the existing arrangements tara calley told the extreme center talking about the marketplace politics of their liberalism which conduct governing. Economic regimes in all parts of the world is failing the majority population in whichever country you talk about service whats led to the loss of face and then as the last week it was saying as the momentum of getting involved in street protests that masses of people getting together i believe that getting organized the crowd starts to change the consciousness of those people involved you only have to look at some large hong kong what began as a protest simply about. A threatened dangerous sex traditional but now many of the young people are talking about a revolution in hong kong and ive really expanded that monster thats come out of the experience of of qana fighting together on the streets and organizing together on the streets that process itself has changed that the people themselves as i realize that you know youre not necessarily an expert on on hong kong specifically but you know these issues and im glad you brought that up because i think that one thing that has been really striking about hong kong is the length of these protests and the intensity really seems seems to be there they seem to be extremely organized what are some your observations about the protests in hong kong in particular. Yes i think its been a remarkable level of coordination that you can see the imagination that people show when you look at the ways in which people discards themselves and mask up in different ways so that they dont get recognized by the on that person security cameras the way that they adjust their tactics to try and make sure that the forces of repression cannot kind of beat them off the streets is very very notable in the hong kong case and i think it is a sign of a growing level of radicalization. And then some of the arguments about our the uncompressed is for example pro western and assume simply not true a lot of the complaints been about the policing all this. Thing many of the Senior Police officers actually from the x. Colonial regime are ex british Police Officers in fact sorry i think that you know theyre just talking about organizing for their rights and organizing on a massive scale. Lets go back to 2011 to need said then that can kind of be seen as some as something that kind of set all of this off what what worked in tunisia. Well we can talk about the political transition but 1st id like to go back to the question of where we explain these demonstrations and id like to really offer a consequent to the said year that youre really all has to do with a lack of trust thing there are many countries where people lack trust in their government but that doesnt mean theyre actually go on into the street to demonstrate because most of the time most people just be paid that other people and theyre going to go and protest so there is there is the really important dynamic in protest movements which is when people really are just their expectations when they start to believe that other people are going to go into the streets and in an authoritarian regime as we saw in tunisia and for the arab spring its very difficult because people are afraid of being killed or ending in the given jell so in the sittings where protests are often very unusual the mere fact of having a demonstration in itself can contribute to shattering this idea that people have that other people are going to acquiesce to to to power and which is why it didnt mix of protest groups are really crucial and in the case of tunisia because these protests with president kennedy also happened to come at a time where social media the influence of social media was really starting to be felt they escalated extremely quickly and they could panic in the in the government and ultimately the success i mean the we can talk about the organizers tactics but ultimately the success of a protest movement always has to do with the dynamics of who the target group in the case of the arab spring it was authoritarian regimes and will typically has to do with its strategic game with you know psychological and social aspect but basically the goal is to convince the target that they have nothing else they can do nothing else but comply and for this and. To see things this way you can understand well issues such as the internal city directory of the target group. Is crucial so in. In syria because the military and Security Apparatus was united by you know sectarian ties and so dominated by whites. They could not envision a situation in which a conceding would actually yelled anything good for them in of manager in tunisia was very different because the military and security approaches was professional and owns the protest reach a certain size they understood that their only option was either to kill large number of civilians or to turn their weapons against benelli which eventually what happened in the check it happened in egypt so i think the dynamics of we often focus on on the actual protest movement themselves but its very important to take into account the dynamics of the target groups in most cases the state and its elite so im a lot of what about that about when you what does it take for there to to be cracks and the groups that are targeted say that the military you know turning on a leader or Something Like that what is it when these what causes those types of cracks what we are to sing at the moment is that knopf of the false dawn in Human History perhaps in the 21st century ma says feel that they can talk to the policy without any fear that they can march and the whole world will be watching and they will be taken care of that is exactly what is happening if we talk about nonviolent protests from out of spring gong so that is a big thing because in the past the governments code muslim what was happening in 91 to them im in square when you have that long individual who was standing in front of a marching tank and he was mowed down so if you look at 90902910 almost 30 s k decades we see a sea change happening here. So government so much more costly as to how can we give you not. Let me ask you something about f. L. And i see what youre saying that the protesters feel like you know that if we can get the eyes of the world on us maybe that will give us some level of safety but does that actually in some cases just force the government to use different tactics i mean people get disappeared all the time in jails. Well i mean i can give you a very recent example its too close to expect that where the equator and the government of lenin moreno undertook the most read to measures which was a part of the new liberal program of cause and people went out into the streets the government had to change the capital from quito to got killed and the whole thing went on for 2 weeks finally the International Community that is in niger innis and something on one catholic charge had to intervene on behalf of the mass of the Indigenous People and the government finally had to give in in terms of for the pulling back on the street the measures that it had introduced so i would so the idea is people are taking this cosmopolitan responsibility seriously so if hong kong protest has been a success for far it is because that cosmopolitan responsibility that has come in will support from all the powers of the masses all over the world so that is something that we havent touched in the past unfortunately that has given the im nice and peaceful protest movement has succeeded because of that now let me ask you we were talking a lot about hong kong because its been such a long as such a sustained movement but part of the hong kong tactic has been i guess you could say extreme civil disobedience and you know once when the airport was partially shut down its its disrupted trains when when movements take life when they take hold. They have to plan for not for lack of a better word taking the public off at some point. Well i think initially speaking theres often a tendency just saying can we find a middle path as allow some degree of compromise that doesnt push things right to the edge because initially protesters are often worried about alienating a passive majority that havent yet joined on the streets who they want at least supporting them if you know active young active police possibly maybe actively supporting them so initially maybe this pressure towards moderation but as us protests saw it becomes sustained and they grow in momentum potentially more people join in and also are like i said people can see that possibly those moderate options dont really work for them and you know if you think about the Extinction Rebellion movement thats been popping up all over the globe at the moment against Climate Change you know that is a recognition that theres this very very little fight in any Institutional Capacity to deliver resul even if that capable no willingness to do the reform and therefore its only by the people acting and demonstrating in powerful ways that the pressure can be brought to bear they believe. That the protests that weve been seeing over the past decade they have been in dictatorships and authoritative. Regimes and democracies as well what. Does it take more for people in a democracy to actually go out and protest because maybe they have. A fun a functioning democracy that is because they have a sense of comfort i mean whats the the difference that motivates people in those different types of situations. Well i think you know i think the barrier for you know the fresh field for activism is much higher in you know 310 sitting because the risks of of you know being killed or being flown in jail on the church much more important obviously i think the biggest challenge that the miss traders have to face in democracies is that i didnt protest our routine ised we have a series of laws that are low protest in a certain conditions and as a result they do not reprise isnt political craziness most of the time they are just part of the normal life of a democracy and as a result they really fail to create among the target group the government most of the time the feeling that there is there is an extraordinary set of events that they need to react to which is why the strategy of occupying spaces which is ugle in most im a christian which started with occupy wall street and we see now with extensive Extinction Rebellion is actually a very efficient because it breaks this understanding that the protest movement is just like another protest movement and thats crucial i think to forcing government needs to consider the possibility that it will have to compromise and id like to go back to the point that you you roached with the other guest regarding what prompts cracks authoritarian sitting. I think leaving the case of hong kong aside because its its a kind of of a foreign occupying power in most authoritarian sittings what prompts cracks within the military and Security Apparatus is really a Critical Mass of demonstrators in a capital city you know if it happens in a pro provincial town its its a regional rebellion if its a small protest in the capital city it doesnt really frighten the regime once you have a Critical Mass of people in the capital city it creates the possibility eat it eat it sees it sows doubt among members of the military and Security Apparatus that the regime is going to survive and owns this that that winning that the regime is going to survive then they start to consider the possibility that they will not obey orders and less pieces of the military and Security Apparatus start to doubt that they will obey orders then exam self open to the possibility of a rebellion and when the rebellion starts to mutely the worst is a civil war between loyalists and rebels or which encourages under some conditions a physicist to actually tag along with the rebellion even if they dont particularly dislike the regime so there you have a kind of complex a game of anticipation within to the government which i think makes this moment extremely sensitive to 2 small incidents and small events that can tilt ok that action of the country as a whole ok let me bring an end to this in and democracies. Can a vote be considered a protest i mean for example voting you know for bracks it could that be classified as as a protest vote. Yes you can when you are talking about bringing about the change the transfer mess and regime change if we talk about then we can say that it is a form of protest but it is a protest that is getting to where the citizens to bring about a new government every 4 years of ideas of what it was maybe the dump but your protest implies that you are so dissatisfied that you are on happy with the current regime so it is happening within that specific time sponsor lets say 5 years so that is the reason why you want either to change the government so that a new government can come in and pick up from where you had started or you want to get rid of every on certain things that you are facing of the moment so yes it can take place in a democracy through a Voting System but what we are witnessing is that that ability or that space or that process is not enough to plenty of people in different places and if there is a reckoning that things are not going to change if we are going to have more of the same in the next 4 years next 5 years or what are you that a leads to a certain sense of exist but isnt a certain degree of disillusionment and that forces individuals to go to the streets and it could also become a part in a democratic process where they realize that the government is not going to do anything because its hands are tied or the International System is such that it is going to undermine the masses now lets talk about what is happening in chile i just pick that has been a chorus moment and it is because the government has taken some austerity measures and people are out in the streets people have been killed that have been lynching that have been bomb attacks factories have been set on fire why is that happening it is happening because the government is forced to take a some stand which the masses find on palatable so to cut a long story short it can take place within a democracy by changing voting the area but the same time and people feel that they dont have any other choice the feel that they have to come out into the streets. Ok were just about out of time but im going to try to get in one more quick question to you matthew. Is is income inequality driving a lot of whats happening i believe its having a very significant effect because it its unavoidable its not just that sense of injustice that comes from seeing the gap getting bigger and bigger between rich and poor but you know so many Public Services that people rely upon are considerably being privatized all plans to profits are slim so that you know even if why is that you want to carry on why is that people think well id rather just continue with my faculties and not protest i find that the avenues constantly cutoff up for example guard to grading the quality of the hospitals i mean and i would argue certainly in the british cases degrading of so many aspects of our Public Service use of austerity which created the bitterness which in the end led to it coming out in the end of it to leave in the 2016 referendum and then all the kind of political shock waves that continued in the country since then matthew that will be the last word. 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Donald trump says he never gave Kurdish Forces a commitment before his decision to pull out of syria. Israels Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has failed to form a Government Task is now expected to go to his rival. And then over the top stories from europe including another. A setback for u. K. Prime minister barak his push to get a yes or no vote on a spreadsheet deal is blocked in Parliament Just 10 days before the deadline to leave. In sport football is in colombia off threatening to go on strike is they demand better conditions despite facing threats of having their contracts torn up if they continue with protests like this. We begin in lebanon where the Prime Minister. Has announced a series of new reforms as tens of thousands of protesters continue to demand his resignation mr hariri today promised to cut salaries of some politicians in half hes also trying to get banks to contribute more than 3000000000. 00 towards the deficit and has promised not to add new taxes in next years budget so in a holder starts our coverage from beirut. All. The people have spoken calls go beyond fighting corruption they want accountability and early elections and they say they arent leaving the streets until that happens protests are growing by the day the lebanese government however is refusing to step aside instead it is offering a plan that is supposed to fix the economic crisis without hitting the public with more taxes my thats awful within. The cabinet approved the 2020 budget with a deficit of 0. 6 percent with no new taxes the salaries of top officials including legislators and members of parliament will be cut in half as part of the economic reform package the central bank and the Banking Sector will help in reducing the deficit by of down to 3400000000 and the decisions that we have taken might not be to fill your demands but they fulfill what i have been calling for i will not allow anyone to scare you and its the government. Student to protect your peaceful demand. For too little too late the proposed reforms are not enough to calm the anger. They are right. But i minister the president and other people have. Even if they felt that there was a more positive for the city i would begin to believe that. The way forward according to the protesters involves the government resigning a Transitional Council made up of judges who dont have political affiliations taking over until elections and those elections will be held under a new law whereby lebanon will become one single constituency and sects will no longer just elect their own sectarian leaders. Demands the governing alliance has already rejected the protesters are up against those in power who wont hesitate to use it but there is hope. For. Were going to be. For many here its a new beginning. Those who are taking part in this protest movement say it is a rejection of the political elite who have been in power for decades exploiting the sectarian system of government at the expense of building a strong state that view the states resources to maintain support in their communities now some of their supporters have risen up against that its a 1st and a serious challenge. The path for political change in lebanon has now been drawn but the road ahead wont be easy i think. Is the sense of. Living a different security visit didnt. It is from the media and believed to be that of the good and the be mobilized to the not and of the lebanese the want to live together i think thats a possibility beyond the. Crowds this size protesting for this long young old rich poor Muslim Christian and without backing from Political Parties has not happened in lebanon so recent history a revolution seems to have already happened but the crisis is far from over. Beirut. Live now to beirut so my colleague stephanie. Does anyone there anyone its all really have a sense of what might happen next. I think it should be every single a person ive also does not know how this is going to focus weve heard him say his package they do will say this is a change in their country that they need to be part of this its hugely significant but they dont know how its going to play out why because yes this is you heard there these reforms its not enough for the people here they say they want change they want the government to change what you elections they dont believe that these people the country to the state that its in are the right ones to solve it so the question is this how long are people going to keep the momentum going and coming out onto the streets not just in beirut but in other areas of the country and is the government going except that is a good except having thousands of people continue to cool for its doubtful so i think the question is going to be all study the next couple of days will be significant the next weekend will be significant the numbers why and you know it today that they were on sunday but surely there was still here people still packing the streets and still having the same message stephanie thank you. A Turkish Military sources told aljazeera a deal has been reached to allow up to 1000 fighters to leave the town of ras alain now this comes as u. S. Forces of crossed into iraq as part of their withdrawal from Northern Syria Charles Stratford reports now from the turkey syria border. The. American military vehicles heading towards the syrian iraq people would or could residents in the town of commissioning throat root and speeches to try to pass. The runaway like rats says this man. The kurds of Northern Syria say washingtons decision to pull out its soldiers who are trained for and worked alongside the kurdish fighters in the battle against myself was a stab in the back. They say it gave turkey the green light to launch its military operation against them. The military campaign has caused an outcry against President Donald Trump at home and abroad critics accuse him of exposing the kurds of Northern Syria to the 2nd largest army in nato weakening the fight against eisel and losing influence to syrias allies russia and iran the us defense secretary says military cooperation with kurdish fighters was aimed at defeating eisel in the border areas with turkey and nothing for our mission was to work with by with and through the to defeat isis. We believe we defeated the physical caliphate of the isis in march and but no where in there was that we would fight a long Standing Nato ally and in defense of the kurds to enable the establishment of an autonomous kurdish state. Turkeys president receives type murder one says kurdish fighters in Northern Syria are aligned with the outlawed Kurdistan Workers Party that has been fighting turkey for decades he calls them terrorists and says they Must Withdraw to a proposed safety zone approximately 400 by 30 kilometers along the border to which Syrian Refugees in turkey can return a 5 day u. S. Brokered cease fire seems to be holding but Kurdish Forces have not withdrawn from large areas of the border ergo on his promise to resume military operations against kurdish fighters in syria if they dont withdraw behind the proposed safety zone area by 17 g. M. T. On tuesday he will be in sochi on tuesday him to meet the russian president unlist say russia has a plan for potential reconciliation between turkey and syria cannot guarantee that turkey will not restart its military offensive if the kurdish fighters dont leave the border that there was a political to which the dialogue is necessary between the kurds and damascus and of course dialogue between turkey and syria is necessary in which we are also prepared to play a role playing kerching such direct contacts the kurdish s. D. F. Alliance with the Syrian Government is purely a military one analysts say were a long way off any long term political solution which begs the question what is the Syrian Government and its russian backers have for the kurds of Northern Syria the priority at the moment is to prevent a resumption of the fighting but at this stage according to the demands being made by president for a while it seems unlikely that Kurdish Forces will have fully withdrawn from the border in time for al jazeera suddenly off or near the turkish syrian border. In washington the u. S. President donald trump has been speaking about the crisis in Northern Syria during a meeting with his cabinet he said the u. S. Is not responsible remaining alongside Kurdish Forces but we help the kurds and we never gave the kurds a commitment that wed stay for their kids 400 years or protect them theyve been fighting with the turks for 300 years that people know of and nobody ever committed gee if you do this were going to do that were going to stay with you forever nobody ever said that weve secured the oil if you remember i dont want to go into iraq i was a civilian so i dont power over it but i always was thinking against going into iraq was not a great decision but i always say if youre going to keep the. Same thing if youre the one to keep the and well work something out with the kurds so that they have some money they have some cash flow maybe well get one of our big Oil Companies to go in and do it properly live to White House Correspondent kimberly hellcat so kimberly those comments mr trump on syria put them in context for us. Yeah well the u. S. President speaking not just to a domestic audience but around the world after so much criticism since that announcement of the withdrawal of troops from northeast syria now the u. S. President this is significant having that Cabinet Meeting this is the 1st time hes had Cabinet Meeting weve spoken to reporters since that announcement also since the announcement of the impeachment inquiry which well talk about in a moment but sensually the u. S. President trying to defend himself from a pretty unpopular decision namely the perception that the United States has abandoned the kurdish fighters that worked alongside the United States lost more than 11000 fighters in that effort for more than 5 years to defeat eisel so you heard there the u. S. President saying look at we never promised we are going to stay there indefinitely he also is saying that he believes that there may be some way to work out some sort of deal with the Oil Companies to allow the kurds to at least have some sort of cash flow without offering sort of any additional ext