Could you fit a years worth of trash into this job today we talk about the rise of the 0 Waste Movement im femi oke. And youre in the stream tell us about your trash not often that we ask that on twitter or in our lives you tube top. Cheap clothes packaged foods plastic utensils we use them and quickly throw them away its convenient but as rubbish builds up more people are embracing 0 waste living the goal is to reduce the waste that goes into landfills and oceans by consuming less followers also compost recycle and shop with their own containers and bags take him to the extreme some households have reduced a years worth of rubbish into one small job but the movement has its critics some accuser a wasted here and being elitist because it can be expensive or time consuming to shop for groceries and Household Items at Specialty Stores others question the effectiveness of the strategy they argue that economies thrive on consumption so until that system changes landfills will keep growing but advocates would counter that change is actually coming for example Large Companies including starbucks and disney have announced plans to reduce single use packaging and more than 90 countries including india add new zealand phasing out plastic bags altogether in an effort to be more eco friendly joining us to discuss 0 waste living is all to wicca from new york city order is a journalist who covers Environmental Issues including sustainable fashion also with us is a hair months or founder and c. E. O. Of 0 waste or Bare Necessities shes based in Bangalore India and joins us today from to help those who are long gone and finally we have lauren singh as she joins us from new york city shes the c. E. O. Of packets free on the face behind a blog called trash is for tulsas what he really good to see you really looking forward to this conversation our community because they had a lot to say about this and actually this show was pitched by a member of our community so i want to start with a video comment from someone named Christy Larson shes the founder of a group called earth savvy online 0 waste store and heres how shes thinking about the topic. 0 waste can feel overwhelming to begin with because you have to rethink pretty much everything but once youve established the new habits you take one step at a time and it just becomes like your new normal its easy its a little bit more time consuming because youre making your own products from scratch youre making your own deodorant toothpaste and cleaning products i get a lot of satisfaction out of doing this stuff i feel like that the negative 5 outweighed by the benefits of this lifestyle i feel more connected to the people around me more connected to the planet lays a cog in the system and move a 3 dimensional conscious human being loren i love that thought that ill decide to cut a writter at the point bring it home she talks about 10. 00 always living as for her for you how do you conceptualize it what does it mean for you are you making your own deodorant. Sure so when i started talking about the 0 waste lifestyle 8 years ago it was really cool because i was really the 2nd person to write about it in a mainstream capacity as the person that really popularized this movement i feel so excited that so many people are taking it on and doing Different Things with it to just create a whole different type of reality that we can live in as consumers and as human beings and when i started living this life now there was no book or playbook it was really where my using plastic where am i creating waste and how can i reduce that and the reason i started trash for tossers was to make that process easier for people to reduce the amount of time that they had to spend to make products that help to eliminate plastic and waste and so for me i started with that you actually make my own use but now i make a lot of products that i currently use but the whole reason i started package 3 which was the worlds 1st your waste lifestyle store was to make it even easier for people who wanted to live as your waist lifestyle to be able to find all the things that they needed to do so. And also say hey ive seen you do talks with a job like this and you say ive got a years worth of waste in this job sat what did you put in your job what is in your job right now. Good question and you know i had a god or darn contact concept tags. Contact lenses medicine you. Know what about when i went on under the long bike rides and. Im just thinking about this order its really difficult to conceptualize the idea of recycling so much in being so sustainable that your entire years worth of rubbish actually fits into a little jar is not something that you could even contemplate the after things i think for most of us if feels like a major struggle. Yeah i think for a lot of people it is a major struggle and anyone who really understands the way the Global Recycling system works has trouble conceptualizing this because a lot of things that people think are recyclable are not so there is a lot of which cycling that goes on battle caps anything thats under 2 by 2 that get shaken out of the facility struck the plastic technically recyclable most likely going in the trash. Theres a lot of things that people put in their recycling bin that are not recyclable at all and so i think a lot of that is going on when you see people getting their waist down to just a very little bit so we have another example of how someone does it how they make it work this is classic on twitter he says i make my own fresh cheese with dairy and glass bottles its not necessary to keep things fresh with oil put a plate on the bowl or wrap things with fat free paper or rap they go on to say on twitter that we have weighed supermarkets this much as possible we visit the market in small shops and we take our own bags that are boxes with us so lauren rather through an average shopping trip for you. Sure so one of the coolest things about reducing waste and eliminating plastic is when you go shopping to a Grocery Store you actually avoid it most i also so i buy a lot of my peers at Farmers Market but you can go to any Grocery Store and really shop without waste its just going into aisles that have produce an instant buy produce act it should plastic youre going produce thats literally just wrapped what it is so let us doesnt need plastic to be lettuce you just have to take it home and watch it and i actually really enjoy that process of getting in touch with my food using all of it composting the scraps and really knowing where things are coming from and where theyre going when i buy food so i bring my own bags to the Farmers Market or to the Grocery Store my own jars to refill with things like all of the oil sands living this lifestyle really reduced the types of things that im consuming which has ultimately led to meet eating things like fresh fruits and vegetables things like rice and beans so my lifestyle is so much healthier my diet is so much healthier which over 8 years has resulted in me having more energy and saving a ton of money so i am just thinking the way that no one is describing had i shall be a typical market day many people who are in the villages in india even living in a big city in india that idea that you would actually take a plastic bag to go shopping that doesnt even make sense theres Something Else that you also pointed out that really fits into this idea this concept of recycling and we using and we can often find this and perhaps the developing world where you we may have already lost that ability in the west and well have a look here on my computer this is a double one and they described as one of the worlds best food Delivery Systems you want to explain exactly what happens and how this works because this is sustainability right under your nose. Yeah thats actually my favorite you know with examples from the indian context. Its the double which is an 18th century is an invention its a combination of food equipment but also a supply chain system and theyve done this case studies even at harvard on the double that and the margin of error is like close to nil and the century every day 2000000. Healthy home cooked meal been delivered employing about 7000 of all that and mumbai in just one city alone and i think thats a phenomenal example of you know if theres absolutely no i think that you know the journey kind of the anti pieces of the whole food delivery. Phenomenon that we see today that its strongly with both and i think it to your point i think you know its needed actually journey not the enemy because the but i thought i we dont have to great for the weekly from a market that is mature Farmers Market i think your house at any given point. Having a lot of things that we are talking about and they will bend it just advocating going back to how we used to think because kind of in the you know we had west on 5 or 3 stores that were giving you predicted amount of packaged food and so thats why i kind of advocating for the kind of going back to you wouldve seen how we used to do it and. I think really though that inventing the wheel its all things that people have done in the past less than a 100 years ago people live without plastic this is living a lifestyle the way my grandmother did one of my employees is indian and her familys indian from india and have sent you know bamboo toothbrushes weve been using those since i was a child stainless steel container to speak been using those you know making different meals out of leftovers theyve been doing that for my grandmother made her own laundry to them none of this is novel and people think that its impossible but its totally possible it happened less than a decade ago. Well i think its possible if youre ok with the fact that or you remember that our grandmothers did a lot of these things themselves because they were stay at home. A lot of the packaging that was invented so they want to get out of the household and stop having to bake bread every day and. Do all of these things that require a lot of time and now that we have a lot of dual income households we dont even have time to go to the Farmers Market because it closes at 3 pm. And get all of these packaged. Or. I have a job and a single apartment and i sell and ive been living this life now for 8 years i think its totally possible for anyone to reduce their waste with being a woman and with having a single income. Luxury of 0 use doesnt mean that you have to eat in a relationship or expend extra time i find out that your response now saves me time and saves. Me so what i did. And lauren and ill do and i think the people in our Community Better on both sides of where companies very much result. Lauren i hear where youre coming from and i want to bring in our community because i think there are people on both sides of this that can hear both of your points of view and so i want to share a few of them several people in our live you tube chat right now talking about what youre talking about one person says for example take our orders from restaurants cause a lot of trash if youre willing to eat from the restaurant then eat in the restaurant another person says im thinking of bringing my own tupperware to the taco bell drive through so one solution there but there is pushback here and ill give this to you tales of darkness sets or handle im not practicing nearly good enough thats why im here in this you tube shop but making ones own toothpaste that seems extreme and another person on twitter that ill bring in kind of echoing that point there bethany says. Some people dont have the time to commit to growing their own produce or making their own products and they dont have the money to shop in 0 waste stores if they even have one near them normal supermarkets often have a limited range of low waste options so sedating on the point you were making ounds and but before i go to you i want to pull up this article you wrote not too long ago for a box the complicated gender politics of going to 0 waste because it kind of plays into what those 2 commenters for saying can you elaborate on that. Sure i guess so i notice that most of the 0 Waste Community is composed of women and i was wondering why that was and i think it comes down to a few things that living sustainably actually has been gender arise in a lot of way a lot of men see sustainable lifestyle as a sort of feminine pursuit its also keeping your Household Waste down to 0 or close to 0 is something that is just added on to the list of things that women have to do if ordered to. To run our household right were doing all this emotional labor all this work and planning in order to do the neo planning to raise the kids if we have them do all these things and then on top of this now 0 we have to get our waist down to a little bit and then on top of that the other thing is that women are still largely locked out of the rooms where these little decisions are being me that are producing more plastic so for example fossil fuel companies have invested 180000000000. 00 into constructing plastic production plants around the world and thats going to as estimated to increase production by about 40 percent now that is a supply side problem and its that all that plastic is going to end up somewhere. Whether its in my household or its not in my household will probably end up in guatemala or cambodia or other developing countries where. Multinationals are aggressively marketing their packaged products and especially places that dont have the ability to process all of this packaging and recycle it so i think that so far in this conversation weve been talking from the perspective of people who have been educated and lived in the west and were not taking enough about where the plastic is really coming from which is about 90 percent of it is coming from 10 rivers in india china and africa and were really going to address this problem we need to think about whats going to work. Theyre not whats going to work in new york city guess i want to show you this and viewers i want to show you something my in my family i have a system my brother in law who are very good about we cycling they started off recycling and did it nicely and in sort of layers and they washed all the packaging and then they got more and more into how sustainable can they be then they started to make products so that they had no packaging around the house and this is just sort of insight into what its like when i visit them because i have no idea here where to put my leftover rubbish because our systems of quite complicated have a look. This is in its rules to go inside and in 5 weeks how do the now introducing. High so this is where our cleaning products start lemon and white vinegar left in there for 2 weeks then to go is siphoned off as a bit of alcohol that is disinfectant the skins then squeezed and added to and a lot of water which reaches out 8 and the grease this is a washing up liquid that is sort of crystals and kissed it in soap with together and a little thing just in case you did not is ill you can if you squeeze your plastic and it bounces back its not recyclable so i have a confession to make when i visit them sometimes im so intimidated by their systems that i actually put the rubbish in my bag and i take it out for you and i dont give out there is no where to put it but the question is they are very dedicated and they have an amazing system at home but what difference this this really makes i had to you think whats the point you know the question. Yes you know i started living so you know its when i started working with race because in bangkok and often there we speak a community that migratory you dont have Citizenship Rights because access lecture city theyre living in housing but also cycling in. All of these types of when its what they get harmed so whether thats broken glass. All of that and it being you know we really need to look at problem because i think its a social justice issue where that in in country is shaping up that we have a sort of country shipping out there were established in countries like india and china of course now china i think that we dont take any but also. In whether its you know cotton but you know a disproportionately Better Community rather than. Us or. You know the landfill and i think we need to kind of treat think the way the country doing things at the end date is the social justice issue you know why we think of another soil water is less valuable than ours. When we talk about rethinking the says here from bethany on twitter who says after around a year of trying to force myself to be plastic 30. 00 waste i realised that it actually wasnt something i wanted to aim for anymore as it created too much pressure but the changes i have still made even if im not perfect those matters so with that in mind i want to play a video comment from someone who tries to break this down for us and gives us some tips that we can all use this is Trevor Thornton hes a lecturer in Hazardous Materials management. In the australia i believe and he sent us to he sent this to the stream. Recycling is good for the environment but avoiding or reducing rice in the 1st instance is the why the guy thats the preferred approach so we can we stop have a look in the rubbish bin see what the sorts of things are in their food vices a good example 35 to 50 percent of advice is food food that we could have a that cooked or perhaps not bored at all if we had been a little bit smarter in the shopping there are lots of other things to do do you use Reusable Packaging do you take it back to buy your groceries do you need to live on the coffee cup when youre going to be sitting around having a coffee its all about thinking about something you can do and then doing it well its a lot i want to bring you back into the conversation because for a lot of people as as you heard this can be daunting and this can be frustrating so what are their 1st steps that he would tell people. So i agree with that you know i started living a 0 waste lifestyle to align my day to day actions with my values for environmental sustainability my personal goal in life is to create large scale positive environmental change and when i started doing this it was really for myself to live in alignment with my values and the reason that ive continued is because it did add so much benefit to my life that i dont believe that everyone has to live this way and i actually agree with a lot of people it is inconvenient for many people but im on a mission to change that so i believe that living is 0 waste or low if lifestyle should be convenient it should be accessible and it hasnt been for a really long time why is that i believe business and subsidies are the main driver of that rationale and so im on a mission to change that i started package free to make low waste living easier for my community and people who have access to Online Shopping but i strongly align myself with the fact that every person no matter who you are where you come from should have access to product that are low waste and safe our homes and our bodies in the environment i believe that its a basic human right and so what im on a mission to do is start Manufacturing Products at economies of scale that make them price point competitive with the products that people are already using every single day but it doesnt have to be a choice of economics or access or where you live to be able to have products that are safe im on a mission to make your waste and sustainability in plastic free living accessible to every Single Person why hasnt anyone done that yet i dont know but i dont think theres any better person in the whole world than me to do it and thats why im so passionate about starting package free growing our company and bringing 0 waste to the world knowing that some of the time to humble brag that i dont know and love no past week waste let me show you this organization here on twitter thanks chad a video that stuck with me kind of haunted me he says put in thailand i just want to show you a few seconds of this he dont know whats going on until you want to little bit more. Time resumes and not say things to be stop wait until you see what it is some can and this will show can we go this is the reason you. In the big mall its in a sandwich bag how did that get into thailand so i could probably say how about i got there actually. There is a huge problem in the developing world with things called with single use stock shapes and they were manufactured in order to give low income people away cue by something that is more affordable to wash their clothes with and they become extremely popular and. Thats what capitalism has done to this problem and i dont think were going to address it by throwing more i mean you fracturing or more entrepreneurship at it and i think we need to go back to advocating to the government here the im so glad you said that because so much interrupted i think this is so important last month the United NationsPrime MinisterNarendra Modi made an announcement that was huge particularly concerning the conversation that were having here about plastics and sustainability and no waste this is what he said i think he would have to listen. No you must be as i came in here on a wall at the entrance of this building i noticed the call to make the United Nations free of single use plastic im pleased to inform this assembly that even as im addressing you today a very Large Campaign is being started across the entire country to make india free of single use plastic in the next 5 years. So i had known that i was saying earlier she felt that she was the woman had to change the way that we view plastic and the way that we use plastic but i think that somebody like Prime Minister. Who actually can say were not using plastic shopping for michigan but then probably could see something bigger than plastic but what are people buy products theyre already using every day there are no Better Options you cant just ban plastic willy nilly and expect that all of a sudden people are going to have ways to buy so buy the products that theyre using every day its not one sided you need to 1st create solutions before you create legislation that would help us how can i was going to go to the 2nd i want to hear my head i would have to have a suspect if i dont help my how to type thats a 2nd gone go ahead quickly want to get the ecosystem approach i think we do need but i legislation a place i think we ought to do anything that manufactures and say if we need behavioral economists working on it we can design studies in Grocery Stores that help people you know deal with phenomenon the exception i think policy being a policy not being back i think of too much rain which institution my things can create lots kill impact and i think policy in terms of what the critics and sent them or maybe i think if you Companies Just spend x. Amount the money on the budget on preventing that packaging. Getting tax cuts for Enterprises Like a lot of the mind to basically exist and do what were doing and you can more make an. Author called on it. And of course that india clip you saw there india is not the only one whos proposed this janet here on twitter says i love this discussion and can yeah we bring our own bags to the store the plastic ban is a way of life for us even when buying at airport duty free shops we put stuff in our bags but we can all do more to achieve 0 waste and think our thing here is really we need to ban it one of the biggest problems is that oil and gas is you know that is that a voice of law and sing along and thank you for joining us so ham and so and. You very much as well for being on our program talking about 0 waste as on the strain many can i will see you next time and so watching everybody take it. To. 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