Board but what mr johnson is proposing is an inverse of that so the European Union will hates it but chances are looking at the numbers he might get the parliamentary numbers in the house of commons in london to get it to fly. Well i doubt hell get numbers in a westminster i think that is a mountain that he counts 5 and thats why hes looking for an election before this is is sorted out but but its correct to say as your previous speaker highlighted that the order in ireland is extremely difficult to achieve the troll and its impossible really to imagine any any workable d alternative arrangement to the backstop that might we retain the status quo while allowing the United Kingdom to leave the Customs UnionSingle Market and thats been at the heart of the problem when there are over 300 crossings between Northern Ireland and the republic of ireland if you compare that to the eastern flank of the European Union if you go to the baltic sea for example to the black sea there are 147. 00 crossings around and theres no recognition in the world provide at least that theres an existence now where you have to separate custom regimes and and yet you dont have a border to police now but to get bogged down on the issue of trade and transport is to miss the whole point Northern Ireland has been a zone arena of conflict for for decades and indeed ireland has been in a conflict for centuries and its not a treaty trade wasnt at the heart of the conflict the pump it was essentially about identity i want gregs it has done against the wishes of the people of ireland north and south is to restrain the constitutional question and and to take Northern Ireland out of the same arrangements as the republic of ireland against the will of the people of Northern Ireland and the republic of ireland this is essentially an expression of english nationalism its nothing to do they never of course promote about the implications for the situation arent when the vote took place in 2016 and we are running out of time but why are we running out of time its true you know how few years since the french and referendum took place but no here workable plan has been outlined by to push for much and now with 10 days to the European Council meeting were getting a draft a couple of pages draft with no detail as if its the basis for some new agreement as if everything that happened in the last 2 or 3 years didnt happen i thought we werent. Go see it because it was trees amazement as you remember is the same as a member of the same party as far as johnson forest johnson was foreign secretary in december 27th with a backstop was initially negotiated and the backstop then was a compromise what hes trying to do is not you know opera time from is the compromise is already there its a matter of whether it essentially bridge covered under its existing agreements of what it is im dr or grenades and. Alex to return in birmingham would you agree with that analysis in as much as the good friday agreement i mean donna has got it right surely the good friday agreement was never about trade it was about in effect respect its the people who live in ireland respecting the autonomy and the the wishes of the people who live in Northern Ireland and vice versa but project fear quotes kind of says are Boris Johnson is endangering the good friday agreement but you can only endanger the good friday agreement if those political paymasters who had alliances in allegiances with the paramilitaries actually say to those selfsame people take up arms again and go back to the troubles of the seventys and the eightys but in reality that is never ever going to happen shortly. But i mean it couldnt come into america you can never be sure as to what the impact of return to a border would have been the moment you start contemplating any kind of installations if you talk about customs possibly you talk about placing a border with drones as some technological fantasies have been prone to doing you provide a target for disaffected people in society and i think one of the key points here is of course that the e. U. Takes its obligations as an opt out of the good friday agreement very seriously and that in turn gets to the wider significance of the e. U. Which i think is lost on the British Public particularly because many people here who object to the e. U. Just see it as a vehicle for taking british money and when its pointed out to them that the e. U. Monies returned to britain will they say to money we can spend it everyone thats what we should do better misses the wider point the wider point being of course that the European Union was a vehicle to promote peace on a shattered and largely destroyed continent and in the ashes of world war 2 and in a sense that the Northern IrelandPeace Process as mirror that in a fashion a colleague from belfast who once said to me and more than a nobody is Northern Irish other irish or youre british and the thing that the european identity element has done is to try and diffuse that in a fashion is something that both communities could grab onto as an addition element to remain as in particular that european identity as they would put it is being torn away from them and in the case of northern and that it has particular implications for have a province would go forward. Put a clip in brussels lets broaden the surface 2nd Boris Johnson is hostile to the idea of a Customs Union its difficult when youve got countries say like the relationship that alex has already mentioned like norway and sweden where its half in half out but logic would dictate that Boris Johnson isnt hostile to the Customs Union so his hostility is a function of his political imperative he wants to be a conservative Prime Minister again after the next election hows that dynamic going down in brussels for you given that his ambition is vaulting hes only ever wanted to be quotes king of the world now here is in his mind i guess if he was a 4 year old again king of the world thats why he wants to stay. What are people in brussels thinking of all this while the diplomats are of course trying to work something out and and and the Member States are to a large degree i would say on the on position of the Irish Government however there are reports from from room work that france and germany was been looking into the possibility to have a time limits. To the backstop that would also be apparently plan b. Of course johnson in case the e. U. Would ultimately reject his compromise proposal now i think ultimately the keys are with the with the Irish Government and at the moment their position is look at the u. K. Can leave the e. U. Thats possible it can leave in a in orderly manner with a deal but the condition is that a part of the u. K. Norden arent stace under the customs regime of the e. U. Which effectively with mean if the u. K. Will have an independent trade policy and of course as the worlds 5th biggest economy one day that will happen that you would need customs checks insights u. K. Territory and i think people have to understand thats not such an unreasonable its not so unreasonable for the british not just a conservative party but actually also labor to be against that so i think the Irish Government has to think very deeply if it is actually with its hardline position not creating a new deal dynamic because ultimately if there is a new deal and i dont think interview will happen at the end of this month i think it will have an extension instead its just my my 0. 05 but if there is a new deal at one point that could happen afterwards johnson is for example reelected and has been radicalized because he has to make all kinds of promises to convince bricks of party fodors in such a cause. Thanks are until being a great loser because not so much to you k. But its partners in the e. U. Belgium the netherlands from sturman it with ask the Irish Government to protect. The border an ordinance so needless let me just boil that time he tried to put that pointers are in and then a funnel going to the n. F. L. And donna simon kovan of the Irish Foreign minister being very very tough this past week but the dublin government the t. Shirt the red carpet hind the scenes they seem to be signaling actually we might be able to talk on top of which emanuel mccrone radio silence Angela Merkel radio silence is there a warming of the mood music to what mr johnson is putting out there not at all and my view what theyre trying to do is simply not close the door on on talks theyve made it clear that these proposals such as they are and not on the basis of of durable agreement simply because they lack any any detail but at the same time their political enough to know that they cant rule it out of town to specially when it seems that Boris Johnson is trying to engineer a situation whereby the plane will be put on the European Union and the Irish Government just in relation to what your previous speaker said about it all coming down to the Irish Government i think that flatters the position of the Irish Government some of ireland is part of the European Union the European Union it will see some of these issues not the Irish Government the Irish Government as a constituent part of the European Union has its views and indeed the only fronts here learn from the year between United Kingdom and ireland will be on the island of ireland so of course our image is central to those but dont for a moment think that this is not the e. U. Decision this is been a an attempt indeed by the conservative government was some time to kind of divide and rule as it were to to get the suggestion that ireland is an outlier that actually the European Union is is is really eager to concede to virus johnsons demands but its the irish somehow that are the stumbling block they are at the one. Page on this indeed he used Parliament Steering Committee yesterday he said that what Boris Johnson was talking about was not even remotely in the realm of what was or is feasible this is not something that is uniquely irish and i have to say from the long term perspective in ardens this this kind of is eerily retold and of how the order came to exist in the 1st place in 1020 were now approaching the anniversary of the partition of ireland how was it done it was essentially a private deal between the tory party which tory led government and the unionist north americans to to and essentially was done to the government of iraq which said in its documents that its aim was to achieve united arne a very same document partition ok alex that was in birmingham what you make of Boris Johnsons kind of calling card of the moment which is lets get bricks it done that was the calling card of the conservative Party Conference last week some people might say look hes being really really cynical because that the sell the selling point here seems to me to be lets get it over the line lets do it this is stage one and some people are saying stage 2 might take a decade. Yes i would think to put it to fully that remark is a bad as instrumentalists being in the kitchen and saying that chop an onion you know what happens at the end of all that the simple answer to that fact is the patrol agreement is only even the beginning of the end to quote a 0 churchill its just the end of the beginning if we get a Withdrawal Agreement in place in the improbable possibility of that happening you know in the next few weeks that would just be part one and and b i lets be clear about this people who say they are secure breaks the finke that breaks it should come to an end get breaks it down simply getting Withdrawal Agreement in place will not get bricks it done if we want a new comprehensive economic relationship with the rest of the European Union if you look at a relatively simple case such as the canada a year Free Trade Agreement the sita that took a good 8 years of negotiation now its it entirely different ballgame when you have a member country that wants to leave and wants to have a level of economic integration that just goes beyond simple free trade this process could easily take a decade so people are sick of breaks that now they havent seen nothing yet and even if the u. K. Were to fall out of the European Union they would all agreement in place it would then have to begin the process of patching up all those bilateral arrangements that would cover case sectors such as chemicals aviation medicine food standards ok i want can i ask you all just about how it rained for 10 a 2nd as a series pizza coming to you 1st in 10 seconds do you think bricks at stage one will happen on october the 31st. I dont think so the e. U. Does not seem to be willing to engage with the compromise so i think words will resign just the example and it will have an election and there will be an extension requested by the government until maybe the 1st of april ok do not broken in dublin do you think bracks that stage one will happen on halloween. No i dont think so i think were not anywhere near one for thats possible alex how bout you. Well there was a time when i thought no deal was distinctly possible at halloween but now i dont for the simple reason that the bad actors all but ruled that out and i dont think Prime Minister johnson got funded by ramit so now i think theyll be an extension and the ban act thats a whole different conversation gentlemen the clock as ever has beaten us here on inside story thank you so much for a Company Thanks to all i guess they were the makah or clip professor alex the rooster and thank you to you for your company you can see the show again anytime you want on the website al jazeera dot com forward slash inside story and for further discussion do go to our Facebook Page thats facebook dot com and you can also talk to us on twitter our handle as ever at a. J. Inside story or you can tweet me at pizza topping one for me peter davi and everyone on the team here and thanks for watching well see you soon but i for now. As governments fail to cut emissions scientists are proposing drastic measures to save the planet. People in power ways technological endeavors to counter humanitys pollutants against the risks of further meddling with the environment to have a feel like this is playing god its actually quite unsettling ancram frankly makes me quite anxious. Klein attacking us on our disease. Aljazeera for me is different because theres a maturity about its views gathering in the israeli generally a reporters channel but the pats take the risk of a story i will. Still hold on im not going anywhere else as is setting out to give thanks to the reality on the ground that the reality of the ground can only be combat because the next day the people of iraq thats what we do and i think thats what we do well. 2 planes came from sudan and 15 men check in now hotel mr youre my missing for 5 days it is possible to fully clean the premises all forensic evidence but what you then leave is evidence that you have fully cleaned and mr a wanted to give them some of the stuff is speaking about the role in the before even the saudi government probably just have Jamal Khashoggi murder in a saudi consulate on aljazeera. Elevator in fact going to here in doha the top stories on al jazeera iraq has lifted a curfew in baghdad and other areas where theyve been violent protests for days at least 93 people have been killed part of it is holding an emergency session to discuss the protesters demands. And protests are being held in hong kong despite a rail shutdown and calls to cancel demonstrations fewer people than in previous rallies to pass many covered their faces in defiance of a ban on mosques imposed by hong kongs chief executives score tied to reports now from hong kong. Despite a late message going out by protesters on saturday the b. Events of the day had been cancelled hundreds of people still gathered in causeway bay that grew into thousands and this is a market thats going toward the one area i know its very interesting because the protest movement they said that they wanted to cancel the event to save up for on sunday because they say it is going to be a very big day on sunday you know as this is transpiring there was a video message released from terry lamb the chief executive of. What she said she called why on friday the violence carried out by writers on friday as a justification for the mass ban that she put into place both elected and how. Ling held their rights as extreme acts made hong kong enjoy a dark day last night it is made hong kong paralyzed everyone is worried anxious and even skat the Hong Kong Government has the greatest a temptation to suppress violence i appeal to everyone to support the government to stop violence in a legal way. Obviously as you can see in the faces of these marches today they are defying that ban you can probably see more of that expecting much more of that on sunday because multiple events are planned and thats why the organizers initially said they wanted everyone to stay home and rest up for a big day on sunday greece and the United States have signed a new mutual Defense Agreement u. S. Secretary of state mike compare was in athens for the meeting the agreement establishes a new u. S. Base near the border with turkey the Prime Minister of greece urged the u. S. To help defuse tensions between cyprus and turkey it comes as nato member turkey continues to develop closer relations with russia including buying its s. 400. 00 missile system. The United States is eager to go a partnership with greece on a range of Energy Issues for the sake of your prosperity and a stable Eastern Mediterranean region last march i met with the leaders of cyprus greece and israel in jerusalem we free countries with free markets want to achieve Energy Security together we want to make sure that rules govern International Exploration of the Mediterranean Sea as Energy Resources and that no country can hold europe hostage cameroons Opposition Leader maurice come to a will likely be released from jail as part of an amnesty ordered by president pull bia come to was jailed in january for organizing protests this latest Development Comes as a National Dialogue aimed at ending a separatist conflict concluded in the capital you know own day camerons English Speaking regions have been fighting for 3 years to break away from the french majority on thursday president bia announced the release of more than 330 people to syrias ahmed idris reports now from your own game. The latest amnesty comes 48 hours after 333. 00 people were released by the government just before the conclusion of the National Dialogue its not clear who the beneficiaries are or how many people will be released in the latest round but really. That modest come to president ial opposition candidate in the last president ial elections will be among many held the government concessions that include the release of detainees as well as those recommendations of the National Dialogue as important steps towards recourse in the country but Big Government concessions could also be a smart move to father isolate hardline separatists who see the concessions as cosmetics they are used to steam and complete independence from cameroon. Officials from north korea and the u. S. Arrived in sweden to resume talks on denuclearization north Koreas Nuclear negotiator and the u. S. President s special envoy are among those meeting on an island of stockholm theyll discuss north korea ending its Nuclear Program and return for sanctions being lifted saturdays formal talks the 1st since donald trump and both koreas leader kim jong un met in june those are the headlines well have board for you and i was here after head to head next. Not happy here then you can leave them bringing drugs theyre bringing. Their rapists. Racism corruption accusations of collusion and love affairs with dictators Donald Trumps presidency has been engulfed by tales. From day one. Many still support the president and say hes doing wonders for the u. S. Economy but with many economists predicting a recession potential big trouble for the. Summer beginning to wonder if trump is headed for a defeat in next years election my guest tonight though is Stephen Moore one of americas most famous conservative voices on the economy and an advisor to the trump 2020 campaign hes argued that the president deserves the nobel prize in economics and whatever trump is doing on the economy it sure is working because weve got these you know tremendous conditions right now and a lifelong champion of free trade more is now defending trumps tariffs arguing that theyre all part of the president s grand slam to make America Great again i support what the president s doing but theres no question. This is short term pain for long. And ive come to washington d. C. To go head to head with Stephen Moore a Senior Member of the trump 2020 campaign and one of the president s top economic advisors held for the 1st time at George WashingtonUniversity Oh ask him whether trump on a mix is really helping ordinary americans and whether a volatile and seemingly unstable trump is even fit to be president of the United States. Ill also be joined by rick wilson a long time republican political strategist whos become a leading conservative critic of the president and author of the book. Everything trump touch is. A constitutional lawyer a member of the trump 2020 advisory board. Cross a liberal commentator and cofounder of the National News website the b. Please welcome Stephen Moore. Moore is coauthor of the book trump a nomics inside the america 1st plan to revive the economy. Stephen moore thank you for joining me on head to head 1st to be here why is it stephen that you think that u. S. President donald trump of all people deserves to win the nobel prize for economics well weve got a very Strong Economy in the United States right now you know its weakened a little bit from last year when i said that i think on c. N. N. That he should win the nobel prize for economics but its the strongest economy in the world today. For reviving the economy i think trumpeters serves a lot of credit and maybe a nobel prize you say reviving the economy lets just be clear about what trump promised he promised 4 percent even 5 percent growth he hasnt even managed 3 percent yet he promised to eliminate the National Debt in 8 years instead hes increasing it by 4 trillion dollars he said he would save coal coal hasnt be saved he said he would restore manufacturing its in recession just one failed economic pledge after another i see things real differently i mean 1st of all see them differently the facts right. I mean trump makes grandiose promises exaggerates and sometimes i wish you wouldnt do that but you know if you compare where the economy is today versus where it was when he entered office its substantially strong. If youre an American Worker and youre looking for a job this is the best labor market for workers so probably in 50 years and the labor market is great they did a 107. 00 just for audience here and what your home there have been 107 consecutive months of job growth 76 under obama 31 under truncheon you say thank you barack obama look obama certainly deserves some credit for getting that Unemployment Rate down but it continues to slide lower than anybody thought was possible i think that you know if you look at our growth is growing slower on the trunk than it doing well barack obama the problem let me say this the problem we have in the american Economy Today is not a shortage of jobs you know if we put every unemployed person into a job wed still have a 1000000 have jobs left over thats a thats a pretty Strong Economy it is and im saying there inherited a pretty Strong Economy your way trump should be given you say trump should be given a nobel prize for economics when barack obama was president you said americans shouldnt reelect incumbents who quote run up the deficit by a trillion dollars in the woods this year the trump deficit crossed a trillion dollar destroy it will cost a trillion dollars a year as well so stephen surely for the sake of consistency you will be urging everyone not to reelect well no im not in the hands out of a gun or a consistent. Then. Ive been very critical of the overspending thats going on in washington and i think both parties are responsible for that the good news is that the economy is growing faster than the debt thats the most important thing make sure that our ability to repay the debt you say thats the most liberal under obama you didnt say that was a miserable the one that has just these are your goods because you cannot run up the deficit by 1000000000. 00 let me you said you said let me quote you im angry because we are borrowing 1000000. 00 trump is now pouring 22. 00 trillion dollars a year angry now and the anger one of them is that his dad is a share of g. D. P. In the last 2 years under bush and the years under obama doubled we borrowed more money in bushs last 2 years and obamas 8 years and then all of this. The according to the congressional budget of the world war 2 levels under trump do you recognize this book idea you wrote this book called in 2009 how barack obama is bankrupting the u. S. Economy tonight do you want to change the name right over and put donald i give you like no no i get your show often enough you can because theres a lot of 20. 00 in because theres a big one thats really in dollar deficit is going to different weve got you on a minute booming economy think thats going to be us no they did last year that barack obama was present at the economy grew by 1. 5 percent last year you know under very well we got fiscal 2009 as measured by economists not george bushs budget you know unless. The numbers i mean all see that the chinese trade will donald trump said last year that trade was a good and easy to win he now says he didnt say it but he did say that it clearly hasnt been easy to win and in terms of being good dont these trump tariffs on china represent the biggest tax increase on u. S. Consumers in modern time that i am a free trade guy and one of the things i 1st told donald trump when i met him when he asked me to work for him as a senior economist i said mr you know donald im a free trade guy he said look i believe in free trade he just but he said i want a level Playing Field we are in an epic battle with the chinese its going to last decades dont the trump tariffs on china we can talk about decades long but right now dont they represent the biggest tax increase on u. S. Consumers in modern times well no we can you say no but those are your goods oh wait a minute hold you said the idea of a 35 percent tariff on imported goods would represent the biggest tax increase on u. S. Consumers in modern times suddenly start working for trump and thats not true i know their average American Family has seen about a 1500. 00 reduction in their taxes thanks to the to the worst economy that ive had wiped out by these tariffs not still havent been to new York Federal Reserve has 800. 00 or how about that you know whos been everyones last of those who you know new federal reserves are awaiting the tax policies and it is really entirely for the federal budget your burden of those of those