A whole list of these articles that all shaping society and maybe making society a little bit more conservative jeremy men shake. This comment and he framed it in this way he thinks is the slice president s influence have a listen have a look at the most prominent backers legislation. Various president s modify i mean supporters of human rights minority religions and international were really worried when modify mean became Vice President because of his connection with conservative islamic organizations as well as his ability to coopt Islamic Civil Society those worries have turned out to be valid with modern i mean in the Vice President ial palace we have good reason to worry about the future of democracy in indonesia and india are you a infest no you go 2nd. I totally agree with that because before at the protests we i think model i mean. On behalf of his organization thats all and its an islamic or going to the i think one of the oldest Islamic Organisation in indonesia he actually made a statement that was. Encouraging urging the just let if to pass the penal code bills and postponing or rejecting the antisex islands else so it is definitely something that is very warring and especially as i mentioned like its in a lot of ways the contrasts part of there is a lot of cons in terms of and i sex off islands bills and most of them are because of you know like you know people seems to thing that the antisex all files bills is very liberal because theres a lot of concept of consent and power that it makes and i think not many in a median actually understand what it means so they think that it is something very liberal so thats why conservative groups think that it will lead in an age at into a country that doesnt have really just space junk i know i have. Yet its very true i think the charts your colleagues if youre a moderate i mean if these are 1st and she didnt show candid and you know they got elected has led to this problem in terms of an awkward kind of bill but i think this is really shows a democratic country and we essentially never duck any kind of you know really just inspired. Lesions in our constitution except for one proceeds in which you have to be on the video but thats a very special case because as you know this special autonomy of the feast but why dont you know the rest of other p. C. Leisure they adopt this kind of security relations in their in their profit is but now i also think that were going to. Propose these. To be on the panel. They dont realize that a society is changing specially the young people are in danger so when they write the b. L. S. That will create in our eyes many of their you know arsenal you know their personal choice that any extra markets class better than adultery of course its just unacceptable for down and start its why you know if you look at 2 different tasks and youre caught by many outer banks in indonesia in which you know students come to the street to ask not the bill you can issue you can you can talk that we have a child getting a society. That its not being realized by the government no im so glad you mentioned the students because theres some remarkable video that has some motion and this takes us back to student protest that was just last week when we play the video to eat. Rice and her dad as a picture. And just 5 years earlier who was known as indonesia is a bomb a people really really love writing what has happened to his reputation in the interim. Yeah thats its. No easy time and i mean thats right its pretty much an irony actually if you know if you look at to the way joey came to power back in 2014 major got into him as a little for you know for that he can democracy because he has no political ties to previous a political odd establishment he has no call to dynasty whatsoever in indonesia so people really regard him you know high for a 4 engine democracy. I think it was in the 2nd hop or hes 2nd term he became a more and more conservative president we remember back in 2000 and. 16 or 17 there were a very polarizing elections are up in which you have to go home already. At a candidate that got support from islamic groups began the government and got a capital t. In that each out that manx i think we became a very different president because he house you know this. Trap for all those islamic groups well my triton despite our. What happened to the president s reputation he was smiling there was you can see the still pouting him would you have been one of those students pelting for throwing tomatoes at him with that. I honestly havent seen the video because he seemed to be enjoying it very much. This is for me i completely agree with nouri said it its very ironic to think about like you know how popular he was on his 1st term a lot of people as you mention that its a new hope and i myself one of the person who who are who are very disappointed with you know like the way he came pain on his 2nd term especially on his 1st term he mentioned a lot of stuff about you know like human rights like you will focus more on human rights which is something that previous president never really talked about but like in his 1st term like you never done anything in step there are more and more Human Rights Violations especially in and especially ones he choose model i mean as like a part of a concert of group and he was actually one of the person who were very much involved in terms of you know like a naughty mention about the general sorry the governor elections of jakarta which is the capital city of indonesia and he was one of the person who also kind of like very much involved in you know pressing chart not present at basically supporting the charge of blasphemy towards. A home so yeah so there is a lot of disappointment in terms of you know like how he shifted a lot of people say that you know like because a lot of people thing right now that joeys enemies are the students but a lot of people also mentioned that actually his enemies are not the students but his right let me share this with you this is from thank you very much for for sharing your thoughts with us at the stream on twitter he sent us a whole spread but he also points out something i guess he also mentioned and he uses the promise is what he promised 5 years ago and i still hasnt fulfilled up to now one of the voices or an important voice that you havent heard. This conversation is the voice of government in indonesia so we wanted to bring him that up to chief of mission for the Indonesian Embassy in london this is what he had to say about some of the things that weve been talking about to have a lesson on the issues of the corruption and the law and im very corruptions. The person is joe hes concentrating. Illegals options available. And one of these is through should be free should be a president ial degree. In lieu of the law on i think russians. Know is that still unclear what is going to be happening to some a full fledged a social do you have Better Capital yeah i think the president started to think you know about his decisions in approving the beyond and i Corruption Commission he was a kind of surprise in seeing you know the massive protests led by the students not only in water but also in many other cities in indonesia so thats why i think he started to think to issue what we call. It is a regulation in lieu of law to change the existing law on that so i think that way if the political will be issued had a precedent that could be a way out you know. Or i think were having our own its interesting to say i was on the president s a website our from just last week feels like hes listening to a task has let me show you a clip about what he is promising to do for interns in citizens have aleck. I want to strongly reiterate my commitment to democratic life in indonesia will not change freedom of the press freedom of expression is a pillar of democracy dubey must continue to guard and defend ladies and gentlemen do not doubt my commitment on that and i would have gone on in the i should i should say that i had to pull that off. But does that make you feel better you can stop protesting how do you feel that the presence of your back. Well actually. The statement that he made i think he made that last week which is its quite an irony because like he mentioned that he will keep the democracy a life and stuff like that and then during the night there are 2 human rights activist being arrested so it kind of for me its it feels like a lot of theres a lot of hype proxy so its very hyper correct for him to Say Something like that but later on the same day there are 2 human rights activists being arrested and he never say anything like he never made comments about that so i dont know im always skeptical but i am skeptical so snorri out how do you think this might play out your research you say you study democratic movements how movements actually progress i think this might play out in indonesia do you think students in the protestors have the right now. Well if you look at t. V. To Student Movement in the media it is actually a very political thing if you look at 2 trend of years ago when we have a long read president yes it is a hard go it was in more than 30 years he was forced to step down by massive protests let a student in 98 and the same is true for our 1st 1st president presidency our no who was also forced to step down by you know massive protests met by the students as well and so i think the asians in indonesia have you know in their mind when students come to the street to protest about you know part of the political issues you have to respond to your team i am i do was you know was that in my mind happened to them and i think thats what president just call me by thinking about you know hes doing the regulation in new of law to change the already approved. Law on an on topic he is simply responding to the students demand out student. Concern i dont know i never have been protesting i just want to say this whole thing from here had us on twitter and i says with a dear have to acknowledge that the idealistic students and model suppresses the government the problem is that political opportunists are jumping on the bandwagon imo i mentioned how many other they want to talk about that happening in intervals of the people protesting about it so graunt how do you succeed disincentives. Well i think its late because they were mentioning about the protests a lot of people this is very identical to what students professed but we have to remember is that at the protests that we are doing its not just students but its like a lady here is leaders you know like leaders of layers of Civil Society from students from women from labor workers assure men farmers and every part of society are joining in because like every part of society will get affected if you dont like what this issue is that we are protesting right now so this is best equipped like a coalition of people that best equally are worried and also concerned about the. Rest of the banks here norrie. Thank you so much for helping us understand the protests going on and into these yes so much better seen. As governments failed to come to a Mission Scientists are proposing drastic measures to save the planet. 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Hundreds of people defy a curfew in baghdad after 2 days of violent protests. A lot has of sake of this is edges that are live from doha also coming up. North korea confirms it successfully tested a missile that can be launched from a submarine days before Nuclear Talks with the u. S. Nigerias president visit south africa just weeks after a wave of xenophobic attacks that caused tension between the 2 countries. Concerns about a transatlantic trade war the u. S. Plans new cherubs on european goods in response to either subsidies. Hundreds of protesters have defied a curfew and central bank dead following 2 days of violent demonstrations against the Government Security forces opened fire on crowds in some areas of the capital in other parts of the country at least 13 people were killed during demonstrations on wednesday movement of private cars and people in baghdad is now restricted some cities in the south are also under curfew. Imran khan joins us on the phone now from the iraqi capital so imran whats happening there now. Well what were hearing is that there were clashes in the morning between protesters and Security Forces in areas surrounding to where square which has been the focal point for the protest of what happened on wednesday is that the Security Forces through around a ring of around Tahrir Square to try and stop the protesters going in that had a knock on effect in that the protesters still came to neighboring streets and other neighborhoods and thats where running battles took place those battles going on in the house of the morning and at 5 am local time the Iraqi Government announced a curfew with until further notice that is Still Holding at the moment all the streets surrounding where i am right now are completely empty in this central baghdad. Throughout the city people are moving all the shops to show some nobodys coming in to work so this is a scene being seen as a measure of how. A measure of how seriously the government is taking the threat of escalation of these protests so what the government is really worried about is that the process will escalate not sitting back up but become a nationwide movement and may well be coopted by religious parties by of the political opposition parties which will make the much bigger and in terms of the backdrop of these protests in iran clearly theres a lot of anger and frustration being selfish. Well absolutely i mean the people who are coming out on the streets are predominantly very very young. Frustrated because they dont have Job Opportunities and they see that this government and previous governments have been corrupt and now in order to try and meet the protest this month a demanding job you dont going to be able to control millions of jobs or even like this is a structural problem thats been going on for decades within iraq local government has a real challenge on its hands or right now what its trying to do is announce a commission to look into the events of today and wednesday to point to how it happened also is willing to meet with the protesters but this is illegal this movement seemingly doesnt look like its being led by anybody so quiet because many would meet and listen to the demands is unclear what is clear is that the protesters are determined to get out on the street but theyve been using social media for the last 2 years 2 days to get people out on the street the internet now being completely in severely cut off and restricted in most parts of the nation is very difficult for me to even get online and most of my rocky people the people that ive been speaking to say they cant access Facebook Twitter or anything like that thats really how this protest movement is developed the governments hoping that by cutting off the internet the video to stop people coming in on the streets. In iran. There in baghdad thank him around. The north koreans confounded successfully tested a new type of Ballistic Missile that can be launched from a submarine it is the 1st test of its time 5 young in nearly 3 years and missile was fired into the sea towards japan the launch came hours after north korea said it would resume denuclearization talks with the u. S. On saturday and i said richie is a professor of International Relations at the hank Cook University of foreign studies he says the Missile Launch is unlikely to harm talks with the u. S. This is definitely a qualitative. Improvement in range versus what weve seen from testing. Was the missiles in north korea really the last few months and this well i think put pressure among other things on the trumpet ministration and how they do in north korea you know trumpets the short range Ballistic Missile tests that were not a problem that they were standard you know this is obviously a. d higher terms of threat of course its very much will depend on how good their experience the marine capabilities are and what we know about them so far is that theyre not particularly sophisticated in the submarine Warfare Technology by the us independent south korea i would have a very good chance of being able to track with real submarine so i wouldnt treat the threat alarmist way but clearly north korea is improving their delivery capabilities on nigerias president Mohamed Bahati is visiting south africa after a wave of attacks against business is owned by nigerians and all the foreigners president rouhani says he will use the visit to discuss what he calls the welfare of nigerians in south africa of the violence in september prompted nigeria to apache 8600 of its citizens for me to military is lifeless now in for toria so for me that what can we expect there from this visit. Well as a much of those visits and its the 1st state visit by a nigerian president in about 6 years much of it will revolve around economic and political ties but whats a wall to be ignored certainly is the issue of whats been described as a phobic attacks in south africa and thats happened over 3 different occasions over a number of years and it is of great concern to both governments at the time of the most recent spate of attacks envoys were sent from south africa to a number of african countries to speak to governments there explaining whats happened perhaps trying to repair strained tires now in this particular case these are african government has said its relationship with nigeria is not strained and this is an opportunity to strengthen and deepen political and economic ties but this issue of than a phobia is certainly one is that can that is one that is concerning and that most likely will come up there was a meeting between the Foreign Ministers of both countries on wednesday night and given the tone of that meeting its expected that the meetings that followed today will be quite friendly one in where both countries have renewed this important relationship between the 2 biggest economies in africa and for me there how is the recent wave of xenophobic violence there in south Africa South Africa against nigerians and other africans has that affected the dynamic there. I think the South African government has been very careful in how its dealt with these attacks and its often on many occasions has described it as criminality not wanting to say that its targeted foreign nationals or nigerian specifically but for many of the foreign nationals in south africa thats been their reality the South African government has also said that while dealing with these attacks these attacks its also acknowledging the fact that there is a high number of Illegal Immigrants in south africa people who dont have the necessary or expired paperwork and these are some of the issues that are fueling tensions between people locals in south africa and foreign nationals it says the government says it wants to deal with this in the meeting between the Foreign Ministers of south africa and nigeria its extra was expected that they would discuss concrete steps to deal with both the attacks in south africa and reprisal attacks in nigeria where South African businesses were attacked and there was a lot of anger and frustration in both countries around what was happening this of course will be a focus in talks today but so far we are expecting that these talks are really done on a quite a friendly cordial basis for me to a lot from him in a lie for us in pretoria thanks for reading. U. S. President ial hopeful joe biden has called donald trump desperate and defensive after the u. S. President called his potential of 2020 democratic rival stone cold cricket a champion again denied pressuring the president of ukraine to investigate biden and his son details of a cold between the 2 were made public after a whistleblower complaint that prompted democrats to launch an impeachment inquiry more now from shihab rattansi. House democrats announced on wednesday that they would subpoena the white house for documents related to their impeachment inquiry if they dont receive by friday theyve also asked for documents from the state Department President drums personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani but they warn that no one should think they can avoid cooperation through them feel legal action Challenging Congress is authority for example so we are concerned that the white house will attempt to stonewall our discussion much as they have stonewalled other committees in the past. Its why i say the white house needs to understand that any action like that that forces us to litigate or have to consider litigation will be considered further evidence of obstruction of justice and of course that was an article the speech meant against nixon the implications for the white house clear from the democrats dont think you can hold the impeachment process up in the courts if you dont cooperate with the inquiry will simply roll that in to potential articles of impeachment as obstruction of justice and well infer that the reason youre not complying is because what the whistleblower said initially was true now the white house donald trump once again attacked the whistleblower who alleged he was abusing the office of the presidency to undermine the 2020 lections in his interactions with the ukrainian president this country has to find out who that person was because that person is a spot in my opinion but later in a press conference with the finnish president mr trump said he would cooperate with House Democrats in there in. However he grew irritated as he was asked exactly what he had been all skin the ukrainians to do in the 1st place biden and his son are stone cold crooked and you know it is son walks out with millions of dollars the kid knows nothing you know it and so do we go ahead ask a quick question sir was what did you want president selenski to do about present my President Biden and his son hunter. 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