A conversion was going to say that had these institutions not sheeted you could send the outcome of the referendum might have been different i think it is completely reasonable to say that there could be a difference in the wrestling. You know had there not been in my view. There needs to be a deeper investigation of the of fake accounts and a group of facebook groups being used to propagate information conservative m. P. Damian collins is the chairman of the British Parliamentary Committee weve had evidence from facebook but we feel that we should hear from oxford because he buys into mr hes the person who decides what happens at facebook there are still big concerns are faced with not enough to investigate the role of fake accounts theyve not been transparent on the issue of data breaches in user data and make up in the hands of people who shouldnt have it. Fake accounts russian trolls data mining complicated stuff and none of it doing much to quell my fears the. There was something unpleasant lurking in the brakes it undergrowth but i barely scratched the surface next up was another whistleblower this time someone whod worked for the official Vote Leave Campaign i was working with the some of the top advisors in the country you know constantly seeing Boris Johnson michael gove you know some of the most influential politicians in britain. Recent graduate sharmas sonnie joined vote leave in early 2016 and was asked to engage with ethnic minorities but weve understood that they couldnt just win on white votes they understood that they couldnt win on like people that he immigrants. He was tasked with working with one of the official campaigns Outreach Groups called believe it was led by a Young Fashion student i met Darren Grimes in the 1st week that i joined there was one of the government one of the few Outreach Groups that was very focused on the liberal progressive matter but sunny says he later realised the official Vote Leave Campaign and another purpose in mind for their young volunteers to circumvent the legally binding Electoral Commission spending limits but leave understood that they had a spending cap so they needed to find a way affectively to breach that spending cap its also a good idea was told that vocally had found a way of getting the believe Outreach Group some new Campaign Money but there were Strings Attached effectively vote leave advised us to create ourselves into a separate Campaign Group so that they could give us almost 700000 pounds to spend but they gave it on a condition they gave on a condition saying the only way that they can give it to us is if we give it to a i q which was a Digital Company working at. A i. Q. I. Q. As its sometimes known is a canadian based data business it works on us president ial primaries in 2015 with best elections cambridge i love the tickers Parent Company literally a week before referendum day we were spending hundreds of 1000 pounds a day. On air q yeah a day the money was sent directly from vote leave to take you in never touch be back accounts son is this quiet at these events later turned him into a whistleblower he passed his evidence to the Electoral Commission and in july 28th they find locally 61000 pounds for among other things breaching the spending rules the founder of believe down crimes was fined 20000 pounds he is now appealing that decision. But theres other stories involving strange sums of Campaign Funding that havent yet been as adequately explained. Belfast Northern Ireland one of the poorest parts of the u. K. Which has benefited the most from e. U. Investment for many here theres long been concern that breaks its effects on cross border relations with the Irish Republic could mean a return to the dark days of the troubles so when a small local Political Party received 8435000 pound donation to the brics it campaign the largest in the partys history eyebrows would raise why he was a Northern IrishPolitical Party being so involved you know in the referendum in Great Britain in england and scotland back in 2016 investigative journalist peter keegan was shocked when he saw a proto leave 1st assessment in a local english newspaper the ad was sponsored by else the Democratic Unionist Party do you pete. For them is a huge sum of money so theyre spending it on a on a piece of material thats not going to circulate norton in ordinary let on at all the single and ferguson cost the day you paid 282000 pounds almost 5 times as much as they had spent on their participation in the u. K. s general election the Previous Year but no one knew from where the money had come to pay for it norden arent these unusual laws as do the secrecy of political donations when ordinary and you didnt reveal the names of political donors and the reason for this was kind of a hangover from the troubles of violence an ordinarily. The loophole was used by the dea u. P. S. Shadowy benefactor to hide their identity finally after intense media pressure the d. C. U. Revealed the money had come from a body called the Constitutional Research council or c r c but exactly who or what lies behind the c. R. C. Remains to be seen do you know where the constitutional search came to get its money from you not asked the Constitutional Research here saying you dont know any other i believe that they have released their money legitimately under we were delighted to receive the donation from that you say you believe that it really meant you have to know that legally l m we did you know their incessant and say oh you didnt tell us what useful Research Council would publish where they do their fundraising not as a matter for them not for the deed the constitution Research Council is jargony term its called noncorporate association it means they dont have to follow Company Accounts they dont have time to address because of the donor secrecy laws in order and we dont they dont have to tell us who they are they dont have to tell us where they got the money from but the Democratic Unionist Party is supposed to be completely sure it has checked where this money came from of the money is that just us we also asked the day you paid what do diligence it had on the true source of the money Spokes Person told us the Electoral Commission has raised no issues in relation. Into the d u p Campaign Including did donation which came from a permissible donor who in turn are themselves regulated by the Electoral Commission. Interesting lay the do you piece spent another slice of the mysterious donation on the services of agric i q the same data company to which boat leave said money when illegally circumventing the u. K. s strict referendum spend in laws the d. P. Did not declare that they were working with anybody to say that they were working poorly on their own yet they spent money with the exact same companies of for at least money which despite these curious circumstances the u. K. s Electoral Commission has said that it does not have sufficient grounds to open an investigation the d u p had broken the lord had committed a criminal offense q. C. Joe mole is a director of the Good Law Project a body now challenging the commissions decision not to investigate the law is very very clear to protect out of mark received from foreign interference values him except our nations have a clear positive obligation to look at and to understand who is giving them money says the vote lead story all over again. Since the breaks that referendum questions about the mysterious donors and the socalled dark money have continued to surface. Journalist peter jukes focused his attention on the biggest political donor in you case history insurance mogul banks. Allegedly he transferred more than 8000000 pounds in loans and donations to leave you and other breaks in campaigns the been face questions about how to for this because theres no visible means of support is not a wealthy man has a big house but has 8500000 pound mortgage on. The natives 9000000 pounds at least. You were never questioned banks has been evasive about the true source of his wealth his reticence troubles m. P. Damian collins chairman of the British Parliamentary Select Committee investigating disinform ation and fake news the reason these questions around our backs and money persisted we keep being told different stories we keeping told well he sold this business in the money came from that sale but it turns out there was no real profit made on that sale or it came from these mines or it came from somewhere else and it never makes sense but what really concerns investigators are the multiple meetings mr banks is known to have held with russian officials in london in the months running up to the referendum why would he be meeting in the breaks and so many meetings made turned out if youre talking about levy u. S. Officials and russian you know Embassy Staff 11 or 12. And im up to perhaps one earth why are the russians dangling lucrative offers to a british businessman bankrolling braxtons you have to ask the question did for money make into the Rights Campaign in june 28th aaron banks and his Business Partner and 2 more appeared before a Parliamentary Committee but he left before the m. P. s were able to fully question him hes misled parliament and the public not only about his own financial activities but also the frequency of his contacts with the Russian Embassy here in london in november 28th the Electoral Commission referred our own banks to the National Crime agency on suspicion that there is criminal offenses may have been committed banks declined to answer questions but he has consistently denied receiving money from russia and dismisses other claims as ludicrous the case is ongoing in the form of government minister bradshaw believes a full inquiry into the referendum is long overdue he wants an investigation similar to the miller probe into alleged collusion between russia and the trump president ial campaign is its very embarrassing for our government Fran Townsend services to look flatfooted like this and to leave it to an american political and congressional process to reveal the truth about what happened in britain. Over in brussels de facto capital of the union reps it is want to leave many think the truth is already out there i went to meet sajid kerim a leading u. K. Conservative member of the European Parliament he lays responsibility for the brics it mess squarely at the fate of russian president Vladimir Putin a weakening of the European Union is in his interests it is is aimed it is his goal and im afraid we are on the verge of. Delivering that for him today i dont think brits and certainly many of the europeans have actually understood to what extent their lives are about to change. Unless our governments including my government in the United Kingdom take the step of investigating and protecting our democracy today. It wasnt the only warning about russian meddling i heard in brussels russia is responsible for 80 percent on the information given it is illegal 80 percent after European Commission conference electoral interference former nato secretary general Anders Rasmussen was giving a stark warning of the threat europe faces over the past 2 years foreign interference has been detected in at least 10 elections and lives on both sides of the atlantic. Rest most and says was surely one of russias targets but i have no doubt and i think we have evidence that they interfere so i think the lesson. Is that we should focus on preventing this from happening in the future. Back in britain the endless political rally over bricks it was rolling on but always about half implemented rather than the legitimacy of the referendum that got it going. I began this film with questions about the brics a referendum that urgently needed answers what ive heard has only increased those concerns. As britains departure from the e. U. Draws ever closer im left with one chilling thought were we here in britain jute into making one of the worst political decisions in our history if you win our campaign or a referendum or an election based on breaking the law then it is a democratic its a lot its a scam its cheap. In september 29000. 00 Londons Metropolitan Police announced they will be taking no. No further action against the leave e. U. Campaign for spending offenses in the referendum despite accepting that it broke the law the National Crime agency has also said it will be taking no further action on these masses against leave e. U. Foreign banks and others. Until now the coverage of latin america and most of the world was a covering coup de tas tragedies of quakes and that was it but not for how couple feel how they look how they think and thats what we do we go anyway 5 and a half months of demanding a good Education System that was introduced to. Latin america as a 0 has come to fill a void that needed to be filled. And. Matthew has on hold an arrogance to account. And. Head to head on a 0. 0. And this is the news hour live from coming up in the next 60 minutes it was here and it was incredibly you know sure you have to do is one of. The u. S. President maintains hes done nothing wrong as the memo revealed he did cranium counterpart to investigate his rival joe biden. Irans president warns the u. N. That the gulf is on the edge of collapse and accuses the u. S. Of economic terrorism. As johnson returns to westminster and says the Supreme Court was wrong and ruling his suspension of parliament on norful. And diane new warnings come down on global c o 2 emissions or crystal cities face the real threat of vanishing. Now u. S. President donald trump says he supports transparency for investigations to access a whistleblower now this comes as alarms have been raised over the white house allegedly pressuring ukraines leader to dig up on political rival joe biden democrats have relaunched an impeachment inquiry into the president s actions john hendren has more from washington d. C. As the 4th u. S. President to face an impeachment threat donald trump is scrambling to elude history its a joke no president yet has been removed from office through impeachment on wednesday the United States 45th president sounding unusually said dude seem to feel historys wait its very sad what the democrats are doing to this country theyre dividing theyre belittling theyre demeaning our country so many leaders came up to me today and they said. What you go through no president has ever gotten through the white houses own account of a july phone call between President Trump and ukrainian president villota mirrors alinsky was released wednesday it revealed that is trump was withholding 2 150000000. 00 in aid from ukraine he repeatedly asked the lenski for in his words a favor investigate former Vice President joe biden for trumps potential president ial rival trump asked selenski to coordinate the probe with u. S. Attorney general bill barr and trumps personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani trump without offering evidence accuses biden of ending a conflict of interest probe into his son hunter biden took a lucrative position on the board of ukraines biggest gas company in 2014 while his father was directing u. S. Policy there in the summary of the phone calls alinsky promised his top prosecutor in his words will look into this situation but with trump it is side ukraines leader says he did not pursue it im sorry but i dont want to be involved to do all. Elections. Anyone you know that question that is the answer a whistleblower in the u. S. Intelligence community alarmed by trumps apparent use of state power for political gain reported the president s call to an Inspector General however the complaint was not passed on to congress under instruction from the white house and the Justice Department amid the fear it has now been passed to lawmakers i found the deeply disturbing. I also found them very credible i can understand why the Inspector General found them credible the House Intelligence Committee received the whistleblower report on wednesday on thursday acting director of National Intelligence testifies before congress that session is now part of a formal impeachment inquiry into the president. Asked about the call trump repeatedly turned the focus on biden fully support transparency on the socalled whistleblower information even though it was supposedly secondhand information. Which is sort of interesting. But also insisted. From joe biden and his son hunter when the millions of dollars that have been quickly and easily taken out of ukraine and china no troops efforts to prompt an investigation into his rival have instead helped to prompt another historic probe one intended to decide whether he is fit to remain in office john hendren Washington Well here are the notes from the key part of that conversation between trump incidents which were declassified by the president and then released by the white house ukraines president voting is a lengthy thanks triumph for u. S. Support saying his government is almost ready to buy more job an antitank missiles from the United States for defense purposes now trump then according to the notes replies i would like you to do us a favor because our country has been through a lot and ukraine knows a lot about it he then goes on to encourage selenski to speak to his personal noir Rudy Giuliani and the u. S. Attorney general bill barr about allegations concerning joe biden well our correspondent she had returned he is following developments from washington d. C. So she had some very different interpretations from democrats and from President Trump of just how incriminating this call was. Right and now we have the original whistle blowers complaint which he withholding all from congress was the main source of anger within Congress Votes from republicans and democrats for that matter it seems like yet again the white house was subverting the law was trying to keep information away from congress that whistleblowers report is now in a skiff in congress and members of the House Intelligence Committee and the senate with youre taking a look at it as you heard adam schiff there saying oh this is all this is troubling disturbing as you might expect at least one republican senator has now said. Quote real troubling things here and quote senator ben sasse of nebraska i think he said one republican thats all the democrats want to do with all this they want to start getting this into a bipartisan a bipartisan effort so its not seen simply as so easily characterized as yet another which comes from the democrats or the republicans and all in trouble saying look this is what theyre doing again they failed in russia gate i called beatrice of the election in 2020 so now theyre going to try and impeach me again the point is how serious is this was a complaint also so. Basically belittling the whistleblower complaint because he said it was secondhand and that is true from what we understand the whistleblower didnt himself or herself hear the telephone conversation but may have been alerted to the concerns of some people in the white house and were having here in dribs and drabs of what may be contained in the whistleblower complaint or at least what the next step might be from some members of congress are saying look what what this is showing us is clearly there are concerns from the whistleblower who is a part of Intelligence Community but also the question is well who who kind of alerts of this member the Intelligence Community to the concerns all the people in the white house are these people who know who might be subpoenaed by congress to talk about their concerns about what all of trump is up to while in office ostensibly while hes protecting the interests of the u. S. Is he simply protecting the interests of himself and his 2020 campaign so that all these new questions about. How much information is actually in the whistleblower complaint and whether its enough or whether its more of a springboard now for committees to take a look at the sort of things suggested by the whistleblower who played interview people who actually did hear the conversation and other call decisions told from my heart and that also includes the what the Inspector General of the Intelligence Community might have to say or his investigation might have been which actually made him think that this was a credible thing to whether he talked to people in the white house so these are all the questions though whether it was a little bit in itself in some huge smoking go to whether records what was springboard to further investigation has now this full impeachment inquiry continues she had her tansey there following all those developments for us from washington d. C. Thank you she had what weve been talking about this impeachment process so lets take a look at how a u. S. President could potentially be removed from office well that lengthy process begins in the house or the Lower Chamber of the u. S. Congress which debates and then votes on whether to bring charges against the president and then if that vote is successful the president is considered as impeached and then a trial of sorts presided over by the chief justice of the u. S. Supreme court is then held and 100 Member Senate the upper house a 2 thirds majority votes is needed there to convict and to remove the president this has never happened well for more on this that speak to current higgins who is a professor at the school of law and a former prosecutor he joins us now from new york mistaken this whole impeachment process as laid out in the constitution is based on whether the president has committed treason bribery or other high crimes and misdemeanors does the memo that weve seen today indicates any of us. Is it does it actually pretty clearly indicates bribery if you look at the readout of that you have to understand misters a landscape is a president of a relatively poor small country thats under active attack from russia he mr giuliani was sent to ukraine months ago to encourage the craney and officials to investigate mr biden they actually did and found nothing but mr giuliani has made several trips so in the transcript what mr issa lenski says is 1st of all yes mr president ukraine will be your best friend mr president were with you 100 percent mr president and then he says we have met with mr giuliani and we will meet with mr giuliani again and then the president says thats good mr giuliani is a respected man in america which hes really not and furthermore ill have my attorney general mr barr call you on this matter so in context theres no question that mr zaleski is desperate for aid of any kind from the United States mr trump is the most powerful man in the world and can supply ukraine with help encounter acting russian aggression and in context when mr trump says yes thank you for looking into this what you saying is we have an agreement thank you he doesnt say well the aid will be forthcoming but in context he certainly doesnt have to do that to show that theres an implicit understanding in an agreement with mr selenski well there has been a lot of talk about quid pro quo and this aid package that you were firing to and whether or not you can in fact from the conversation that President Trump is potentially threatening to withhold that aid to ukraine but putting that aside let me ask you about this pot where he asked the landscape for a favor and then let me quote directly he says theres a lot of talk about bidens son that biden stop the. Prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the attorney general would be great putting the aid package aside is that just that that request for a favor and to investigate the son of a political rival would that be enough for it to be a misdemeanor well it would be enough to be bribery which is whats in the statute as i said mr trump is the most powerful person in the world whether he mentions the 400000000 dollars or not the United States and mr trumps word can do any number of things to help ukraine if you look at the transcript mr issa lenski is desperate its yes or with were with you 100 percent certain you came ukraine will be your best friend sir he is desperate for help mr trump doesnt have to say anything until hes status 5 misters and alinsky understands the situation and he says i will have mr barr call you i will you will you will meet again with mr giuliani which selenski had already promised to do and so the 400000000. 00 is really a side issue