Is the war in syria about to end the u. N. Is bringing the government and the office ition together to try and change the constitution could it be the start of his political solution to the 8 year conflict this is inside story. Hello and welcome to the program im devika pollen 80 years of war had devastated syria an estimated half a 1000000 war dead millions more living as refugees and a country in ruins now signs if an agreement to words what happens next after 2 years of negotiations the United Nations says the Syrian Government and the opposition will sit down to rewrite the constitution the u. N. Hopes its the 1st step towards restarting political talks to end the fighting with syrias largest ethnic minority the kurds is angry at being excluded all thats happening as Government Forces backed by russian airstrikes continue months of onslaught in italy thats the last remaining rebel held province i strongly believe that the launch of the city unknowns and city and lands Constitutional Committee can and must be the beginning of the political process out of the treasure the towards a solution in line with the resolution 2254. 00 that meets the legitimate disputations of all cd ns and these based on a strong commitment to the come to be so for Energy Independence unity and teddy totally integrity. So lets have a look at the power of balance in the battlefield the Syrian Government backed by iran and russia control nearly 2 thirds of the country Opposition Armed groups are mainly confined to adlib province in the northwest the Syrian Government launched several offensive to retake the last major remaining rebel stronghold lunts ago turkey back some of the fighters in it live and has military forces in other cities in the Northern Syria turkish troops went into african jobless and bob after launching an offensive against eisel and Syrian Kurdish fighters the y. P. G. Turkey considers the y. P. G a terrorist organization and wants them out of the border areas the kurds are backed by the us and control much of North Eastern syria thank you we can now bring in our guests joining us on skype from amman is. The uns Regional Humanitarian Coordinator for the syria crisis in istanbul is he. Hes the spokesman for the Syrian Negotiations Commission and on skype from damascus talib abraham a former professor at Auburn University welcome to all of you thank you very much for coming on the program im going to start with you mr moon sis to talk about the prospects of this new agreement thats been reached to try and change the constitution there have been several rounds of discussions prior to this do you think this is this how optimistic are you that this time we will see some kind of progress towards some kind of a resolution. Well i mean as the secretary general says this is really a positive Development Development and the dialogue and progress on the Constitutional Committee on those form of the political progress is extremely important from my perspective as a humanitarian a 6 germany in order to see progress on the political 1000000 of refugees of internally displaced really we are very much looking forward to seeing progress on the root causes of what makes a situation extremely difficult and challenging on the inside syria still yes the remains of the humanitarian crisis it is still a protection crisis so the solution of post is not committed to an assistant there which causes its political so any progress on that is very much welcome mr abraham this was suggested 2 years ago by russia for it to be able to form a committee that would work towards a political solution for syria but then the government rejected it mainly because of the fact that they would be asked to change the constitution what has changed now why is this it would the Sudan Government agree to this now. I dont think that firstly the Sudan Government rejected the project at all but there are a little lost some. Contradictions in the between the. Position of Sudan Government and others the now everything is ok i dont think that anything that big change is bought but if course if you look at the buttons on the the ground its had been changes and now the Syrian Government is much more stronger and it will do take a very large part parts of this to get it if there is and this is video we can understand that no government will go up for negotiation or to. Decide the future of the country at or why this government is not controlling the matter about still to this directory that they how this is not so important but the most important change from my point of view is that there is a kind of International Consensus about finding what is a go to dilutions of the crisis in syria because now it is an International Crisis and that not only for syria for all of that and i were of the countries and even voted already in kansas and here in studio we are very happy to see this agreement about the constitution that going with the which will open the door was before vote but it got a submission which made him the charge of the of millions of syrians and that mr ellery the how confident are you that he would be able to they would be able to make progress with this Committee Given the fact that the Syrian Government right now has the upper hand what or what would you say the opposition are looking for there was originally there was a proposition to amend the constitution but the opposition groups have asked to completely rewrite the constitution is there a compromise in between. Well 1st of all we consider this to be a step in the right direction towards achieving peace and. Implementing the Un Security Council resolutions starting from the geneva communique up to 2254 from the very beginning. Of this crisis in syria the regime has just selected for itself the military one not the peaceful one selected this because just raised the a motto that either i rule this country or i ruin it and this continued as such for a long time and people were forced to resist and then interfered be taken the interference of terrorism with the russians interference actually things as you can remember probably remember that 90 minute putin said that we will be there in 2015 for a few months and we are going to solve this problem and now 4 years have passed and nothing has happened they talk about politics about. Political solution all the time but what they do on the ground is a military one all along they have rejected the peaceful approach the to the crisis in geneva there were several rounds and all the time there were progress to nation on obstacles and this Constitutional Committee which is making all this. Noise about what is happening in syria and the possibility or probability for developing a peaceful a Peace Process. Came as a result of the agreement on the Constitutional Committee under the pressure of the russians because the russians achieved all sorts of things at the military level when it comes to the political one there were no gains so they felt at a certain point that they need to do something at the political level they pressured that e. G. Millet agreed and we hope that this 1st step could be an introduction to political. The Peace Process that would bring so youre back to life this is our expectation and this is our hope and we need to put syria as a priority over him and he selfish interests or any aggression or personal interests because it concerns everybody especially when it has become a world issue so many hands are interfering in this installation and that has to be a solution and the russians probably at last they came to their. Reason and they pressured the one that the selected the minutes of the bath all the way and now we hope that there could be an international will to again bring syria back to life through an actual substantial political process ok at this time im saying the people that are suffering the most in the midst of all of this are the people of syria many of them have had to leave the country to find security and safety how do you hope that their interests and their voice will be heard within the framework of these constitutional jewing these discussions that are that are being planned well it is vital that the voices of all syrians inside but also the refugees are displaced people are very much taken into account to be able to move to a way forward a law meant every syrian will be watching and following very closely to see how it progresses and most importantly what effect would it have in their lives in the near future but also the years to come there is a lot at stake many syrians have gone through tremendous suffering displacement losing loved ones many still continue to live in very difficult circumstances and actually hundreds of thousands of people are still being displaced and the moment there is a significant dependence also on International Humanitarian assistance to how the Syrian People wherever they are so their voices participation in taking your concerns into account their concerns its extremely vital for a constructive way forward i think that cannot be exercised enough. Mr brennan im going back again ive previously there were issues with forming this committee the previous versions of this committee because of the makeup and the fact that the opposition would be involved how willing do you think the government is to work with the opposition for a political solution yes i think of it as area and dish and i believe that in a sense from the seat in government to put an end to this war and if this isnt possible without working with the opposition especially specific political as if they were scorched possibly if performing a power sharing government are losing some of their authority to the opposition. None of the this is a another issue but i think there is a good and distance from there for the government to work with the political. Opposition and to work to get out of course not what the gun cost of that on the sort front or isis or other terrorist groups as a part of the opposition at that how i think now that. The matter is about a unified syria and i think how to rebuild syria how to make a new state in syria a new democratic and stable a state which we got out of the order that i told everybody was the being here in syria no one can see that the access that interventions which had been inside syria got one thing that rights civil rights and the human rights of the syrians not this law in syria what about direction direction so if the rationale that nations and their best and i think relative. Or working together being governor the people position and make all guns be silent decide all guns and door together in a peaceful way in a political way and i think this is a bit a good. Introduction to write a new constitution for the concrete in which we must find put it together delusion and the post get an answer to all the questions which had been evasive and the last is the difficult years from the life of syrians this very day i make this point again now how confident are you that the current governments and their representatives will be willing to compromise so will be really willing to negotiate at the expense of them saying authority or even losing part of their power. Well we are confident about the rights of Syrian People to have like a human being on the face of this earth to a. Normal life to lead a democratic way of just doing things to have their rights not to be oppressed not to be jailed not to be displaced or uprooted from their land not to have their houses destroyed we believe in this and this is this is assured. The whole world shows syrians with their plight. Not effectively but at least theyre recognized that they are being under all sorts of oppression does ship now how confident are we with when it comes to the to the other side not that very confident because we know the study implemented or the study apology from the very beginning on the part of the regime because it just selected this military path or either you are under my control or ruin your jail you or destroy your home or you are displaced all these things now if there is a possibility for everybody putting serious interests and her people above Everything Else there is a possibility another factor that makes us confident also that the International Community is tired and old those countries interfering in syria are really tired and some of them are cornered you cannot imagine the pressure being exercised on russia on the part of the the or peons the americans also the pressure inside the russia at the economic level and there could be a possibility that under this pressure russia said to its sister to itself that well enough is enough now we are trying to control the city and jerky so that that a g. M. Would be in control they are trying to do it but not that e. G. Thats the point they say that. Controls 2 thirds of the jigaboos or thats not true it is the running nisha the Russian Military the so horses etc now how does it not been for that i sions all the iranians that he would have fallen years ago but now we are in such a stew ation we have. You and resilient sions in particular 2 to 5 for that talks about starting a political process that would put syria back to life and this is what we are working for if that a. G. M. For once becomes quite responsible exercise some sort of morality if it thinks of the opening of the children of assyrians for all these years that have been suffering unlike any other but in the world probably they would just. Have a real human feeling that there should be a solution if they continue to be such centered around themselves caring about this governing oppressing controlling everything. Not caring about people no solution would be found but we believe and we hope and we are confident that theres a possibility for a solution to this abraham i do you think the current Syrian Government the government of bashar assad is. We looking for a solution in the situation. In syria in the way that it will return to a democracy so that perhaps even they can lose their seat of power. Yes i think the government is very much concerned about the citizens or does not their government promise or a government from other nation. I think yes and even president bush on a set c. Than the previous piece of that syria is over everything and i am sure that now the government is working everything and bank to do everything in which. Go around. That its all syrians inside and out say syria and we will be very very much the bitch if you order a few of us come back door their country and work on their factors and their families and live their ordinary lives were love see that those are the syria which we use a. Secular syria and syria was our despairing nation between any any any ethnicity or between any religious or group i think yes the government does but we were concerned about that and working for that and i think that we must work we must work with there with the parties inside the Syrian Opposition who are taking care about that and the rest of syria syria as a state and as a nation mother because who are representing the dervish interests are saudi interests or america and the rest as are other countries and diverse that we want to see it sooner than it was a foresee the empirical says and for syria what divisions serious for syria and nothing else and my question to you would be why arent the kurdish population represented and the committee and heard something that the Syrian Government has not wanted that syrias largest minority shouldnt they be part of the conversation. From there begin to get good going to this isolated themselves and their east of you bret is and theyre jews and theyre naturals and thought it was United States not they were the other city and they were fighting as our solidarity. Yes fighting icily photos does not mean theyre then must put their hands on oil of sources and only get a gun shot and not to burden that other that goddess of other arabs and thought the law but shut us out of their earlier theres a guy in the options really very very very distant discrimination between arabs and between this and the discrimination and displacement is being made but when i see them Democratic Forces or was it back again. This group from the beginning they had chosen to i sort of them to sell that everybody go 1st represented by someone else every group had a backing from someone else regardless im going to leave that there im going to go back to mr mon sis and ask you about the plight of Syrian Refugees many of them are living in limbo with no prospects to go home or to leave will there be any provisions made sure in these discussions which could take a very long time for them what do you hope that they will be able to do in order to get back home. Well the plight of refugees is extremely important the course also the plight of the millions of syrians who are displaced within their own country and many people are really being suffering with the United Nations secretary general through his special envoy. To get paid his son is leading the United Nations discussion in geneva in really finding moving forward so the life of the psionic the g. s and i would say the overall view but its a response its very much dependent on seeing progress on all these fronts most syrians are highly something going on for far too long so this agreement is very welcome if anything long overdue many donors also continue to pay billions of dollars every year to support the refugees the country there is a certain fatigue where now in 289 years its off the conflict and everybody wants to start being engaged with the peaceful coexistence of everybody and have peaceful way forward so theres a lot to think right now and of course most importantly the Syrian People want to see that many syrians. But of course also economically the situation of the needs that we see inside i think recently more protracted theres a need for for education for all for house for live news and many of these needs also cannot be covered just by so many can lifesaving so its really important that the political process progress which really offers the door to many other aspects of Development Reconstruction peace and stability coexistence resolving the refugee resolving this humanitarian needs and to have the Syrian People to stand on their own feet and see a Better Future for themselves so this beginning is a beginning we all hope of a new chapter or pauses if developments to bring to peace the billiton and prosperity for all teary eyed. And mr allawi to me ran out of time and very briefly what do you hope will come out of this Constitutional Committee particularly with the opposition what do you think what what would the opposition be asking for from the current government well there are several things i want to comment on very quickly just this reference to the refugees refer you back to to go to risk the us because the general has said about confidence Building Measures one of the things is that to allow those refused to come back to syria without being put in jail to provide a proper and Natural Environment so they are not under threat to improve the economics to a sion and this cannot be happy to be happening without the a getting involved in the political process another thing related to the kurds issue that you just mentioned that they are not being represented i tell you that if it is an issue of a component called the kurds who are being denied all their rights for decades i tell you that in the 50 in the Constitution Committee 50 members in the us and c c n a negotiation is commission they are represented by the kurdish. National party but not that your idea because its considered to be. Labeled in one way or another another think of what we expect we expect those calls a confidence Building Measures to start at least the release of refuse. The detainees are that there are those who are imprisoned for years and years and some of them died under torture you know that these are issue that took 55000 pictures of. 11 of them. Were that under the torture all these things need to be taken care of so that there could be as. Really all responsibility to words starting this political process with this opening of the Constitution Committee there could be a political process that again could bring syria back to life but it needs goodness it needs confidence it needs belief in syria and it needs somebody honest and moto thank you very much great to speak to all of you im afraid weve run out of time firstly thank you very much mr yeah. Mr Taleb Abraham good to speak to you and. 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