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That more new man the reminder of what happened here. The attacks have spread to the east and north of the country about 500 people have been killed and nearly 300000 displaced. Like ben no good to be in law whos hosted by well wishes in a town about a 100 kilometers away from where the leaders are meeting she fled from her home father north 2 months ago. They came to our village and began shooting everywhere weve played with our children we walked for over 15 kilometers we came out with nothing. The leaders in was the only way to help millions of people like bill maher and had children is by walking together implementing what will be decided at the summit will be the hard part catherine saif al jazeera. Still ahead in aljazeera were going to take a closer look at whats behind the new soybean meal deal between argentina and china. How the weather the last 2 days and probably the next one is going to be and has been pretty severe in east and spain the circulation of clouds around was an early autumn no really its just been pounding the since famed particularly around north sea and just to the north with rainstorm off to rain still its also reached it be certain the other body erika has i think the forecast will keep it in the east in spain for at least the rest of saturday before we see eventually move on saturday and sunday might expand the risk to rest as buy in but reduce it where its currently so bad ass the rest of europe quite the most part as you can see scandinavia the British Isles increasingly windy cloudy and sometimes wet which is all consistent with the change of season now given whats been happening recent spaniards think well maybe the nearby northwest africa will be as badly affected algerias had some big storms that basically is a wind as the interior keeping things warm such too in tunis so to knowledge is. As the rain moves away and the low fills in the temperatures remain in the low thirtys now here and todays were about down to about 24 south of this and much of after is quite the rains are going slowly size there are still some pretty big showers in south sudan for example and places to the west. I didnt know that corruption has reached a level like nothing ever before in our country. I cant cite. To president of the United States. The power was in the daytime we will honor the people with the truth and nothing else discovered. For winning the white house unfair game on al jazeera. You want you all just remind us of our top stories this hour drones have had to study out on coal or Oil Facilities triggering large explosions yemens who think rebels have claimed responsibility a Saudi Interior Ministry says one attack happened in the Eastern Province the other attack took place northeast of riyadh. African leaders are gathering in hadi to pay tribute to farmers zimbabwe president Robert Mugabe he died last week in singapore aged 95 his burial will take place in about a months time. West African Leaders are attending an emergency meeting on terrorism and book a no fuss so the heads of state are looking at ways to deal with a sharp rise in cross border attacks involving groups aligned with al qaida and i saw. Ok lets go back to our top story on the drone attacks in saudi aramco Oil Facilities Rodger Shanahan is a Research Fellow at Lowy Institute for International Policy is also a former Australian Army officer hes joining us on skype from beirut thank you very much indeed for your time so what does this attack tell us about the capabilities of the hoofy rebels 1st of all well its already saying that organization. Their right to reach far into the right in territory. But the structure and in this case it can only give the structure. So that waging a Strategic Campaign the same time as. The studies whiting. Fighting against that mean in yemen. What does this also tell us about the abilities of the saudis to be able to intercept attacks like these are these isolated attacks that have managed to get through some sort of defenses defensive system or is it very difficult to target a drone that is flying in well its really the last. We dont know exactly what. Its. Like a lot its going to be you know we appear to have lost our feed to Rodger Shanahan there we will of course try and get him back in later programs but in the meantime lets move on heavy rains and strong winds are threatening search and rescue efforts in the bahamas the national how to consent or is forecasting Tropical Storm humberto could hit areas already devastated by how to condoning it and at least 50 people were killed and more than a 1000 are still missing alan fischer reports from the capital nassau. For no theres not much more to do than stand around and talk about what happened about what happens next this is a place of shelter for more than a 1000 after the horror of Hurricane Dorian police and army who are helping out the relief effort see the government has been cameras inside or christmas told me conditions are good its the stories that upset or. From. When she was crying. Or washed away in the flood. We know. But then. When the storm hit free time her daughter had to swim to safety. And now another storm is bearing down on the place shes not sure if she still calls home theres really nowhere else to stay if you look at it because the place is the water logged and if theyre not water theres no power no water the dark clouds are all mislead hanging over the bahamas the Prime Minister says theyre hoping the potential Tropical Storm will cause a few problems but people are ready but if you were to fly over those islands that were impacted you would know that many of the homes already have tops on the roof after trying to minimize any form of the kids within the home itself so people have been working already late on friday the u. N. Secretary general toured one of the places where displaced people are being housed and he wants this site is going to become more common so this is the moment to leave 1st the present trends Climate Change is running faster than what we are we need to reverse this trend we need to defeat Climate Change the number of those. Missing still stands at 1300 but new Telecommunications Equipment has been sent to the islands that will watch the fact that the hope is that better information will bring that number down theres a storm just off the bahamas the people here are hoping that it misses because its common path towards islands that already had too much to be alan fischer ill just eat up a not so in the bahamas. You know the nations board of inquiry has been set up to investigate attacks on un supported facilities in syrias north west the 3 member board is due to start work later this month in spokesman stefan giantess says the results wont be made public diplomatic editor james bays has more. The province of idlib is clearly the last target of the assad regime in the long war in syria in recent months regularly weve seen instances of medical facilities in hospitals being hit we assume that they were hit by the Syrian Air Force and by russian aircraft the un said in august that it planned to set up a board of inquiry the secretary general of the u. N. Has now done that but in a press briefing his spokesman refused to pledge that they will release the full findings board of inquiries and they routinely happen are. Internal documents and not for public release thats what i can tell you at this at this point its also important to know that board of inquiries are not. Judicial bodies theyre not criminal investigations they make no legal findings all isnt it important the full facts given these are life and death situations are made public completely agree with you that these are life and death situation this is what i can tell you at this point negotiations at the u. N. Security Council Still continue on a possible resolution proposed by 3 countries germany belgium and kuwait for a cease fire in little province for humanitarian reasons russia has some problems with that resolution and right now this month russia is the president of the Un Security Council israelis were going to the polls on tuesday for the 2nd time in less than 6 months by minister Benjamin Netanyahu failed to form a Ruling Coalition after the last round prime issues as Security Health care and the Prime Ministers potential indictments for corruption at a fossil ports. Reporter titian who sews himself as israels mr security payment reminder of its frequent absence in and around gaza a week before polling day sirens gave notice of a new round of rockets forcing Benjamin Netanyahu from the. Stage at a Campaign Rally in the Southern City of ashdod. His main electoral opponent former army chief Benny Gantz Gaza is netanyahu is a weak point on Security Policy the deterrence has been absolutely eroded its time to act its time to put an end to this its time to change the leadership challenge netanyahu to come to the southern time of steroids and look into the eyes of its frightened residents but stare out has long been a stronghold of netanyahu as likud party and in aprils elections 2 thirds of its voters chose netanyahu or his right wing allies over gun says centrist bloc and. We hope it will be fine i dont have the tools that will has i hope what should be done is done and. Netanyahu doesnt bring a security on the days rockets are launched that doesnt mean that i stop believing in him on one level netanyahu is approach is hardline israeli snipers have killed more than 300. 00 unarmed protesters over 18 months of border demonstrations rockets out of gaza. With punitive airstrikes guns calls for a broader military campaign but its precise outline and prospects of success seem as hazy as the gaza skyline from steroids for all the netanyahu is opponents criticize his gaza policy they have yet to come up with an alternative that is fully believed and supported by the residents of this area and as for the wider israeli electorate that yahoos message to them as always been that israels number one security problem is not gaza but iran and so days before the election netanyahu unveiled new allegations of Iranian Nuclear wrongdoing the only way to stop irans march to the ball at its aggression in the region is pressure pressure. And more pressure militarily israel has been ramping up that pressure striking iranian interests not just in syria but in iraq i didnt gauging in across the border escalation earlier this month with iran backed hezbollah in lebanon but all the risks being forceful on iran is seen as boosting netanyahu Electoral Prospects there israelis who are disturbed by some of his domestic tactics and hes embroiled in corruption allegations which he denies and so on but on security he seemed to be pretty credible and hes also not seen as a military adventure and he doesnt want to drag israel into a major conflict. In recent days though Netanyahu Iran policy has lost some of its luster donald trump has raised the prospect of a meeting with irans president a significant blow to netanyahu strategy of maximum pressure the challenge for his opponents is to convince israelis that they can trust such matters to someone else will sit out his ear a southern israel britains Prime Minister barak zones and says hes cautiously optimistic of getting a new brags that deal johnsons juta media rypien Commission President jiang called younker in luxembourg on monday told german media hes less optimistic this stalemate will be resolved china wont include the u. S. Pork soybeans and other Agricultural Products in new tariffs its the latest in several recent concessions between the worlds 2 biggest economies before a new round of talks on their trade war on wednesday u. S. President donald trump announced him to postpone additional tariffs on chinese goods. Well as chinas trade war with the u. S. Rages on beijing has decided to form a new alliance with argentina the south american nation has signed a deal to export millions of tons of soybean meal which will give its economy a much needed boost but argentina now faces the challenge of meeting the needs of both superpowers reports we want to. The deal has been years in the making but the trade dispute between china and the United States has created a fresh urgency for both superpowers to look the new partners. Argentina is the worlds biggest producer of soybean meal with about 43 percent of the market much of it will now be used chinas estimated 400000000. 00 pigs are going to use assistance without the signing of this protocol establishes a solid legal basis so the convergence of these 2 huge markets. And the light from argentina the deal the boost to an economy in recession so it will get us will know to go forward this is an historical cheeseman we have worked hard work for over 20 years we have wanted to open up this market and we know it will be highly valued by the argentine 3 sectors argentina already exports soybeans and also china and its Agricultural Sector is pushing for more you know the governor wants or not us yet but argentina has to try to sell products of higher value thats a challenge that argentina has in relation to china to try to improve in deep in the sale of these products which it is doing. China to meet its food and energy needs has invested heavily in latin americas infrastructure roads railways and ports the key is to have something that both china and the United States wants that they used to get from one another but no longer do because of their trade disputes but then dont risk offending either superpower politically because things change and nobody wants to put future trade deals. In jeopardy. However there are still administrative hurdles to overcome and some of course should i be getting too excited. Argentina is an important producer but it doesnt have stock and it doesnt have investments because as everyone knows the Economic Situation here is delicate and to try to expand export capacity at the moment is impossible theres no credit and we can expand export capacity then theres the United States to worry about a recently resolved a thought 10 year trade dispute with the u. S. Over meat exports its a Major Trading partner with substantial political influence in what it sees as its backyard but the but i mean. I think the u. S. State department has made various moves trying one countries in latin america to be aware of increasing its trade with china. But he also warns the current trade dispute is merely a skirmish in a much bigger war to come the technology and intellectual Property Rights of the satisfaction here of the deal just done this still uncertainty over the next moves to come from beijing and washington. When osiris. This is all just a with these of the top stories drones have hit to saudi aramco Oil Facilities turning large explosions yemens huguely rebels have claimed responsibility the Saudi Interior Ministry says one attack happened in the Eastern Province the other attack took place northeast of riyadh. Saudi aramco is not an ordinary company it is a company which runs the country and this is one of the most important countries in the middle east so this is this is going to be a major blow youve seen the frequency and the intensity of the attacks that have been targeting will facilities in the past but what you see here and with the extent of the fine is that it looks like that theyre Getting Better intelligence theyre targeting specific areas African Leaders are gathering in harare to pay tribute to the former president Robert Mugabe he died last week in singapore age 95 his burial will take place in zimbabwe in about a months time after a mostly a mens build at National Heroes acre in karate. West African Leaders are attending an emergency meeting on terrorism in both keno faso the heads of state are looking at ways to deal with a sharp rise in cross border attacks involving groups aligned with alqaeda and i saw a new storm is threatening to destroy search and rescue efforts in the bahamas where 1300 people are still missing following 100 can dorian Tropical Storm humberto is due to hit within the next 36 hours buttons Prime Minister ballers johnson says hes cautiously optimistic of getting a new brags that bill johnson is due to meet european Commission President in luxembourg on monday told german media hes less optimistic the stalemates will be resolved johnson meanwhile has dismissed criticism of his decision to suspend parliament so close to the brags that. At least 21 people have died when floodwaters swept through yemens province many families displaced by the civil war have been sheltering there at least 1500 makeshift homes have been destroyed. More than 14 taliban fighters have surrendered in afghanistan saying theyre ready to live under government control its the 2nd significant surrender by antigovernment forces in 10 days those are the headlines coming up next on aljazeera its inside story life now. We understand the different. And the similarities of cultures across the world so no matter how you take it aljazeera will bring you the news and Current Affairs that matter to aljazeera. Spreading diseases and misinformation and to Vaccine Campaign plane for a rise in preventable diseases in the developed world why is that a growing mistrust of vaccines and whats the cure this is inside story. Hello and welcome to the program. Diseases that were once eliminated back preventable illnesses such as measles spreading especially in europe and north america the World Health Organization and the European Commission joining forces to tackle the issue of the 1st global vaccination summit that. Its nearly 20000000 infants were not immunized last year many of them live in developing countries with for access to vaccines but theres concern at a growing movement against vaccines in the developed world. Oh look at the end of the modern certain parts of the world people are dying 2 to one that of vaccines here people are risking their lives and those of others by refusing them some playing the prevention game prefer instead to play with fire the World Health Organization says vaccines skepticism is one of the worlds 10 major health risks Health Officials say vaccines save up to 3000000. 00 lives each year but in the past 3 years 7 countries have lost their measles free status including 4 in europe the Czech Republic greece and the u. K. That says the increase in measles is due to the spread of misinformation on social media about the benefits and risks of vaccines. Lets bring in our guests in nebraska we have dr lee high and here is dean of the university of Nebraska College of Public Health and a former senior administrator of the u. S. Centers for Disease Control and prevention in brussels heidi lawson director of the Vaccine Confidence project a professor at the London School of hygiene and tropical medicine and in lancaster data gathering a biologist and lecturer of like us the University Welcome to the program dr hunt isnt it interesting that were talking about the growing influence of the anti vacs are not in a desolate country in Subsaharan Africa but in some of the most advanced countries in North Western hemisphere. No not at all least in the wet and warm and you know in some back seem to have the bends the really the funk you know Public Health. And people most long in the many in the army and back bankable leaders and then a lot of misinformation but low and the people being worried about. You know whether they need a vaccine at all im not surprised at all of them backing her and. At least their version of it we see in the United States. I do were talking about countries that. Vances in science and technology where you would expect some sense of consensus about the safety of vaccines but that does not seem to be the case well the consensus is and more in the Scientific Community and not. Necessarily the Broader Community having said that. Not all of science around vaccines is 100 percent certain and thats part of the challenge that were dealing with there is a. Significant amount of science thats quite certain but there is some thats theres some level of uncertainty and risk and that when people as we just heard arent focusing on the threat of disease as they shift to the risk of the vaccine. Is this sense of uncertainty about what those vaccines where is the medical community what was the established of politics that should be sending a reassuring message to people. Think that the authorities of are already doing their best to reassure the general population as best they can the problem at the moment is that mordor more people in the developed world are getting their news via our unofficial china was there using social media applications and theyre using general internet search is to get information about things in the dont necessarily see the Public Health messages that are coming home there i also think as the the last contributor mentioned its to do with the perception of or of risk i am sometimes asked if i can get and t. That such and such a vaccine for instances 100 percent safe and we can never guarantee that because no medicine as ever 100 percent safe even something as simple as an aspirant cant cant be did lee of tikkun wrongly or taken in to higher dose so it sent no norm nor more or less safe than many others things that we do in our deal with arrives late driving a car getting on an airplane in saw on these things a not what 100 percent safe either but many of his do them all the time because the risk is acceptable and the general population need to get the message that vaccines art an acceptable risk in that the relative risk of not being vaccinate it is actually much greater to few if you dont vaccinate your child then the risk of your choke contract in me source and then suffering serious side effects as a consequence is viral greater than any time in rests that there might be from an adverse reaction to a vaccine miss the hummed this bsoeuf heidi and eric were talking about is this something the has to do with a look debate that was laws in the late ninetys one a doctor so that theres an established coalition between vaccines and developmental disorders to some extent but that is that study were burned. And the author of the study was far from that of our complete ortler publication so its partly its part of it but its not the whole issue you know ive been putting my dads issue around privilege and potentially why. Where are you going to tell him that. And as we heard from our theme folly they dont see the law you get now to focus on misinformation they issued and you have the whole perception changes at that point when your child isnt dying of it and yet when our generation would were lining up to get their kids back it was sending them out in the summer because the program would get crippled you dont see that in the United States and more you dont see the impact of it syria or meet in the us and. Say well why was it activated and youre breaking that social contract that we have. Back and to protect our whole community we have to all get back. To a sink to build consensus in the community you need to in a way or another to have the boxes on board however this is what they will tell you doctors the medical community is creating an environment of fear and describing them as demons. How do how can you build bridges between the different communities. Well i think that the sensationalized media are all are creating a kind of vaccine populism in a sense of how theyre creating you know theres the public and then there is the you know the elites but theres actually quite a spectrum of people in fact the majority of people arbitrate between the 2 ends of 100 percent confident and the anti a now there are the serious absolutely aggressive efforts which is a very small but very vocal and sometimes Aggressive Growth but 80 percent of the people on the metal i would say are asking reasonable questions so i think its really important that in terms of building bridges we dont lose that that population that when they have questions theyre not feeling. A looked down upon for asking the question that we make every effort for those who are very much. Open to questions are open to or discussion that we engage and we make that extra time thats needed we need to build a resilience in this group that are somewhere sometimes on the fence because if we dont help build their resistance theyre much more vulnerable to the misinformation that is out there or do you have a concern that if the until a Vaccine Campaign continues to build momentum the very notion of immunity would become from eyes of we would see. Diseases that would eradicate it come back. In theory thats possible for any disease where vaccination simply stops in the case of measles it we it doesnt take very much of a reduction of talk in order for measles epidemics to start taking hold again because it means it was this is so very very infectious its the most infectious. That we nor and it has a rep factor which is a statistic we used to to estimate the number of cases or the number of new cases that any one case will give rise to Something Like 15 so any any measles case will produce another 15 cases in an unprotected unvaccinated population and at those levels of infectiousness in order to have heard a minute we have to have extremely high levels of the population vaccinated and well in excess of 90 percent no currently at the moment were just teetering really on the on that borderline currently in in many developed countries so its fairly likely that museums welcome back and of course we have seen the United Kingdom and other countries lose their muses free status as a result the World Health Organization is urging social media firms to do more to combat misinformation on vaccines what do you do about it where you start with not giving people focus information and thats really what were calling for by working with faithful can pay interest and instagram to say take the false information of whether its not scientific facts take that away and then get give people a real choice but a well informed choice by showing them really what the evidence in the dating is ali were talking about 2 different angles of this story which is the medical aspect which is convincing people that vaccines are good for the kids and for humanity and the one which is purely legal about the need to combat misinformation what do you think should be the top priority now. Theres a lot of reasons why were back. Back in nation and i want to go back to our commentary about lets not lose the majority of people in the middle what we can potentially sway that may help what better measure and id like to start at the point the recognizing that except for a group of back in paris and that number of countries. Here in the west bank being had then the people love their children as much as anybody else and if we can approach them from that aspect and if we can approach them from the trust aspect we can help get them back to make it and helping the create misinformation by making social media a lot more responsible its absolutely the way to go in new york city actually we started seeing the media being a lot more responsible about their messaging and about social norming that we get our kids back maybe we love our kids Everybody Loves it but get them back on to civil libertarians would tell you that liberty comes a ball safety and security and that any attempt to contain the riots is an infringement upon basic fundamental universal laws. Well if thats absolutely i mean they do have a point ted last july the u. N. Office very human rights can being to hax Extraordinary Commission i and rapper toured to look into of this because they felt like there were a lot of calls on social media of just start restricting all kinds of information at any were concerned that if what trust pass into that line a freedom of expression particularly and more author or an tarion states but it to i addressed this kind of difficult lion 5 of of mitigating without imposing a kind of consensus or are reducing create a mugger expression to what this social Media Companies have done and i and i know our and facebook of for example has chosen to brain that the at Accurate Information up to the top so to end without deleting some of the more ambiguous are or negative information necessarily of less its extreme and it established in correct farther down so bring it in the 1st think you save being a a card that says errors you know for the 1st information gona w. H. O. Or c. D. C. Your a National Authorities but the other thing theyre doing so one is the prioritization to make the easiest to axis the to the best information he and the other revs kind of in the backend they are its your at changing be algorithm says at were reducing the it what we would call the application of raised by limiting how they can the negative more negative an eon correct information ok its not replicated derek know if we put into place new mechanisms and meet new laws to prevent social media from being years as a platform to disseminate misinformation with vets be enough because many of the until Vaccine Campaign as with tell you we dont trust a with duct has i think that thats a defensive measure to try to limit the amount of misinformation thats out there are also what we need is an isnt or fence the measure of the medical community the Public Health Community Need to to take social media much more seriously and we need to think about whoa we can become social media professionals most of us are not cheap trained us social media professionals we do a little bit of on the side and in a somewhat amateur capacity but opponents some of the antivaccination people are very sophisticated uses social media so we have to get up to their speed so that we can fight on a level Playing Field with them or on social media another point which was made yesterday at the antivaccination. At the vaccine symposium in brussels was that in fact some of the antivaccination lobbyists are really just spreading misinformation because they know that Misinformation Campaign didnt find and potentially to condone rapidly what theyre endeavoring to do is simply to spread dote so they dont necessarily give it out any message that you can point to and see that thats completely incorrect and it needs to be removed theyre just sowing doubts in in peoples mind saying all these things are not are not completely safe and so forth and that that registers with the general risk aversion and more of the public whereas in fact we nor that these things are not completely safe because no medicine isnt completely so if we have to explain better what the relative risks are than hope vaccination is much safer on the hall than risking contracting the disease we have another issue here which is basically it could be millett political when you have communities and areas that allow families to opt out of vaccinations without clear medical reasons. Correct and there are all sorts of laws underway provide not to really crack down on medical 5 exemption as theyre all and really limit medical when theyre only there and thats just one of the many Public Health measures that we can employ try to make sure that people get back and i think i can just go back to eric point really very eloquent so as physicians and nurses actually rank very high for profit and our experience here in the United States with a back the the onset of limitations and misinformation is that if your physician mathematic even act in your lot more likely to get back made it that we need to use that trust as a matter of unity has not reassure people and help them understand how safe axes are and as a fact their child they offer a lot. Heidi i think if you ask anyone in lets say in africa when i come from people would tell you theres any outbreak of any disease is just because people have access to medical facilities the debate were having now is upon something which is totally different a perception among communities in wealthy nations that vaccines are not good dont you think that lawmakers themselves should step in and take action. Well well i think lawmakers should step in where where theres kind of criminal behavior in a sense and i think thats. Very. A challenging decision and here i think. That seems our. Business is that to care about children and kill. You know adults are you seeing with some of the young adults who have missed their vaccines as children but im im. It is not some clearly have to fight between this being an issue and in western or a more developed countries and not in poor countries we have issues and developing countries the majority of people are not much more to the whole visible signs of these diseases so they want the vaccines but where there are marginalized populations or in conflict situations where for instance were trying to deliver the a bowl of vaccine or the thing that stopping you know the final or rather key or slowing down the final eradication of polio is because of conflict and poetry the politicization of Vaccine Campaigns though there there are anti groups weve seen whats up and facebook social media are being used in some context to undermine a program that are Anti Government so that its a different type of resistance but its true that at the population who are generally and whats interesting and the difference is its the mainstream population that is doubting. You know morning developed countries and its these more. Politically or other marginalized or other groups and in other countries so this is not. Just. A problem if its a global problem that plays itself out differently and and really needs our attention and knows that phenomena is connected. We were spoken about different angles of this story what should the provaccine community be doing what should laws be. Reinvented no light on about them about the scientific and the medical community itself dont you see that in a way or another they are losing this battle with the so in the with the and to vax the narrative what do you think sure the Scientific Community be doing now. While ive as i mentioned in my stance and i think that the Scientific Community needs to get much more serious about taking the fight to the anti vaccination activists on social media Mainstream Media is great for good for getting at its message and we have plenty of opportunity to do that and i often do it on in Mainstream Television and radio channels but its far harder to do that on social media because its sort of and because a special techniques are used for really getting the message across in social media we hear an awful lot for instance suppose you tube influencers young young people who are on you tube who have immense following who are influencing young people in all sorts of ways most of the time its about lifestyle choices its about fashion and music and so on but we we need to use some of those young people perhaps to get. Perhaps to get the vaccination message out because they would be the ideal kind of person to connect with the millions of of young people who potentially have not been vaccinated and you need to be vaccinated dr hern ultimately were talking about families with. Family doctors g. P. s abound to go consult them to talk to them about those issues but to give the impression that theres something which is missing here between the practitioner and the family is concerned at the same time this explains what the house theyre looking for different alternatives correct and so it its really important to have that relationship with your patients and buy them the best possible information then again Health Care Practitioners are very trusted in our community more trust in their government and if theyre getting out the right method then youre more likely to see people get back to that that is one of our strengths 8 in addition to taking care of all the other things that need here if i may at this point so maybe a couple of you can stop me when needed i realize this is. So the 1st thing it was starting off with a lets remember the bike has been in the last critical important but key issue the bigger issue around back getting people back to the fact that it is our back now that 1500000. 00 that every year about the bills. So that is a much bigger issue people need to get back and they dont have access to act. Political. Lets not get the bigger issue they are and as far as the legal issues concerned that we saw in new york city how using Public Health measures were renting children from going to school requiring them to get back that it made a difference in new york city was able to bring a stop to their outbreak by using rules and regulations in addition to other Public Health. Legally we do have options available to us without respect patients right to make sure that we are protecting mark thank you thank you very much indeed heidi loss and got a really appreciate your time and your insights. 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Could get fired by the barriers for a model barricade of all 7 streets that lead to here the middle east now is were all about change people have gone past the fear barrier the mission of the National Army is to search the entire complex and ill just your stories about telling it from the peoples 1st but what they think is happening in their culture. 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Valerie a died last week and crossing from mexico to the United States with exclusive interviews and indepth reports that commit according to the fishing life the sexual aljazeera has teams on the ground to bring in more Award Winning documentaries and allied news. Drones attack 2 major saudi Oil Facilities yemens who 3 rebels claim responsibility. Matters and this is all just here on live from doha also coming up a statement moral for zimbabwes former leader Robert Mugabe gets under way this hour as the nation grapples with his divisive legacy. West African Leaders meet in booky no fast so to discuss the growing Security Threat from on groups linked to al qaida and deisel. The bahamas prepares for another Tropical Storm that just days after how they can dorian cause devastation across the islands. Drones have hit 2 saudi aramco Oil Facilities triggering large explosions. Yemens who the rebels have claimed responsibility the attacks come just days after the kingdom said the state owned oil giants much anticipated stock listing would happen very soon saudi arabias interior Ministry Says one attack happened at the out on coast site. In the countrys Eastern Province the company says the cake Processing Plant is the Largest Crude Oil stabilization plant in the world its estimated it can process up to 7000000 barrels of crude oil a day that attack was at about 150 kilometers northeast of riyadh my colleague aljazeera is a sum of individual is here with us now i know youre following the story of for us one of the things that strikes me is that these attacks are not new that there have been threats by the who feels that theyre going to make. This kind of attack and yet the drones are still getting through what does that tell us about saudi arabias preparedness for those but robert you see this very interesting evolution of this ragtag militia wish never anybody never heard of earlier in 22015. 00 which is now carrying out sophisticated drone strikes and the drone strikes that the who these have been carrying out youve seen the evolution of these strikes as well that defers to hit border towns then they expanded to all pipelines then the expanded to other Oil Facilities and now they seem to be targeting at the heart of Saudi Aramco Oil stabilisation unit i mean this unit is crucial for turning saudi crude into exportable oil and then pumping it to its various stations so it it shows that essentially the hooty is this is not just them getting lucky the specifically targeting facilities and that question that you said that you how are they able to put these drones through well theyre much smaller they dont give out the heat signal that you would use in Missile Defense before any mental defense so it is something which which clearly shows that the saudis that defy having difficulty to deal with and theyre very very easily carrying them out and you see that it is happening more frequently and with more precision i want to talk to you about how important saudi aramco is to saudi arabia but youve done a documentary on this i want to show our viewers just a clip of the story there. It seemed like a great idea the Worlds Largest Oil Producing company pumping millions of barrels a day to become the Worlds Largest ever traded stock. For you what a novelty. And over ambitious prince eager to make his mark as a reformer wanted to partially trade saudi aramco for a fellow you ation 2 trillion dollars look the venture of failed to get off the ground and the princes vision 2030 now seems blurry. Saudi aramco is almost like the basis of politics in saudi arabia they are always intrinsically tied everybody in saudi arabia in one way or another is a beneficiary saudi aramco. Arabia it needs a strong and. Well history of saudi aramco is the history of saudi arabia transforming itself from an isolated tribal society. Well its clear from that clip that the saudi aramco is an intrinsic part of saudi arabias life and its economy and its politics how big of a blow is this going to be to saudi arabia well it has. To for us to see how big the damage is from the pictures that weve seen so far it looks like theres been major damage to this facility pumping out about 707000000 barrels a day saudi aramco is no ordinary Company Saudi aramco is the crown jewel of everything in saudi arabia and you see that it is the central part of these reforms planned by the Saudi Crown Prince is bad so it is going to be very interesting to see how saudi arabia actually responds to this because youve seen this is happening at a point where they have been major changes at the top in saudi arabia the oil minister has been replaced the head of aramco has been to place the these are positions of egypt conditionally being held by people who are not royal family now that seems to have changed it is also happening at a time like you mentioned where saudi arabia is trying to attract investment into various projects as it carries out december reforms plan but all of this happening at a time when the war is raging and you seeing that ragtag militia now evolving into a fighting force which can hold Oil Production off one of the Worlds Largest oil giants yeah i want to talk to you about the i. P. O. That theyre planning on how much of an impact do you think this is going to have a potential investors feel if youre potentially looking at investing money into saudi arabia you look at this and this will give you pause you you read want to rethink what youre doing and whether youre going to be putting your money in there not just because of this attack in particular but this adds to a myriad of issues around the i. P. O. We know that the saudis have been trying for years to list this company but they have been facing one trouble after the other because it is for the 1st time that the saudis are opening up to the to the world this is a company which provides revenue for saudi arabia this is a. Company which runs the country it is one of the most important countries in the middle east one of the leaders of these work so it is very very interesting to see how saudis planned to carry out this app i. P. O. If at all because this is being as i said going on for years sources have said that they ruled out new york because their regulations are too strict whether theyre going to go to london are they going to invite private investors such as russia and china or are they just going to list in riyadh so these are all questions that still need to be answered but to your question whether if if you were thinking of investing a few 1000000000. 00 into this i. P. O. You would want to rethink your strategy because this war seems to have no end in sight whats on the thanks very much indeed well as we mentioned such attacks are not new there have been other attacks in saudi of Oil Facilities claimed by who the rebels in recent months on august the 19th who themes runs its. Oil and gas field the drones carried explosives and caused a fire at a natural gas Processing Plant another drone attack on may the 14th targeted a 1200 kilometer pipeline for crude oil the Saudi Energy Minister said the drones hit to pump stations causing minor damage and a fire while the who things claimed responsibility the wall street journal causes u. S. Officials saying the drones were fired from iraq awesome but ari is a professor of International Relations at the university of jordan hes joining us from amman thank you very much indeed for giving us your time sir what kind of response can we expect from saudi arabia with regards to these attacks. Well i think same old same old the saudis actually attacking the whole of the anyway they didnt wait for them for the whole thing to do anything any damage in saudi arabia to justify what they have been doing in yemen over the last 4 years so i suggest i mean i think that the saudis would 1st of all you know focus a little bit on the damage that has been done to our own pool and by trying to present the whole thing as if terrorists would rule and this would probably help them project their what theyve been doing in yemen as something legitimate especially given the International Report about the violations and about the atrocities committed in yemen i think the saudis would continue to think that theyve been doing over the last 4 years as bomb bomb bomb what do we read into the nature of the attacks my colleague osama was just mentioning there weve seen the rebels progress from as he put it a somewhat ragtag terrorist group into or a group of rebels i should say into developing this kind of sophistication what do you make of the way that the the who things are developing their strategy. I think the whole theory is been trying to place a price tag on what this so these have been doing. But also the broader context of the whole conflict here you know we have to think of iran the saudis have presenting their war and yemen in the context of containing iran and in the context of rolling back the influence of iran but at the same time when they talk about a political solution it nor iran i mean probably the United States can still win and do something in that regard but until this moment i think the saudis have been living in a denial on the one hand they accuse iran of doing that the whole thing is being a porn or a proxy for them but on the other hand they dont talk to the area they dont try to you know to iron out differences between the 2 regions superpowers set i think the saudis have noticed the whatsoever and yemen somebody good to get your views on this thank you for joining us. Leaders in west africa are holding an emergency summit in brooklyn of fossil on terrorism on top of the agenda is a review of the g 5 held a Security Alliance formed to combat a sharp rise in cross border attacks from groups but what exactly is the g 5 and why are they being accused of failing to secure the region nazaire book in a foster child molly and not attorney of the group in 2014 but over the next few years attacks from al qaida and i saw affiliated groups have risen dramatically in 2017 with help from friends of 5000 troop italian was set up but so far its failed to make a major difference hundreds of people have been killed and tens of thousands of been displaced since the beginning of this year this week alone at least 30 people have died in attacks in Northern Virginia fassel Catherine Sawyer reports from the capital ouagadougou. Heads of state from this a hell are arriving whether dougal there is a security crisis in the region following an inside inside by armed groups allied to alqaeda in the Islamic State of iraq and the levant fighters have carried out a series of attacks in book enough fassel mauritania mali chide and. They scan sand that this problem could spread beyond this hell and to other coastal countries is over and if you feel we have said that there needs to be a link between development and security if we develop the affected areas there will be security and if we provide good security we can develop those areas this summit has been organized by west africas regional bloc and has brought together president s from the so help countries called g 5 mandated to fight terrorism and illegal migration across bowed as representatives from other west african countries affected by extremist groups like the book are also here book enough fassel has seen increased attacks in recent years. And feel a few years ago when book enough read them for days come power it was removed from power. That country was largely safe but in 2016 on this trip to the top of the world the google on man stormed into that hotel and 2 restaurants more than 20 people were killed that mourn human