Twentys 17 we began to realize after interviewing chinese officials we go official as Police Officers and local residents that large numbers of wigglers began to disappear than through our investigation by speaking to chinese officials we were able to confirm that in kosh car prefecture alone more than 120000 a week years have been arbitrarily and ag traditionally detained in this camps than we began to Pay Attention to other areas as well in the what down prefecture for example just in one conti nearly 40 percent of the male Adult Population were taken to this camps gradually we realised the Chinese Government were detaining large scale numbers of we girls and other ethnic indigenous population and building this camps throughout the region covering this story from such a distance cannot be easy what can you tell us about the methods you rely upon for your journalism where i have an office and china or we dont have stringers there. We did have sources that we used to call and our method is primarily based upon the calling and targeted areas regions police stations mosques streets etc sometimes it takes a few days and we can verify certain things that have happened certain detentions 13 even bathrooms in detentions so thats usually the math that we use. For many of your colleagues your reporters this story is personal given that so many of them still have Family Living in the region what kind of personal blowback have they been facing china sea radio free asia practically as an enemy station and in particular though we are service because we are service is one and the only independent weaker media in the world so chinas government targets were reporters. Chinese government has detaining. Parents loved ones and family members of almost all of our Staff Members 6 of them when public about the detentions and the others have been low key Chinese Government frequently pressure and the threaten their loved ones theyre telling them that they should convey the masses to the rebbe our reporters basically to quit their job or to provide information to the Chinese Government but this pressure on strausss the not distract from our work important work we are doing and actually that is. The reason that were doing more ever since day one since you launched in 1996 beijing has seen r. F. A. As a threat what do you say to your critics who see your reliance on u. S. Tax dollars for funding as having a compromising effect on your organization and the journalism it produces yes we do receive u. S. Tax dollar u. S. Funding but we are an independent and nonprofit Radio Station and we make our own editorial decisions independent of u. S. Government or other agencies so were not directly affiliated with the u. S. Government or its own agency is where completely independent our operation but that doesnt prevent the Chinese Government or other authoritarian governments in asia to label laws. As an arm of the u. S. Government or even cia but thats not the fact. Tof thanks very much for speaking with us today. I grant pleasure. The chinese news media refused to cover the sin jang story until the reporting produced by International News outlets grew too compelling to ignore the aerial shots of specific camps the documents proving their ultimate purpose that material was 1st broadcast on radio and Television Networks outside of china but much of it was handed to those journalists on a plate by a handful of independent researchers practicing open source journalism relying on online tools ranging from Search Engines to satellite imagery those researchers have played a critical part in the reporting process and beijing is on to them its now doing a better job of covering its tracks online burying the evidence of its operations in sin jack the listening posts daniel tory now on to open source investigators and the role they have played in helping foreign journalists and the rest of the world understand the reality of sin janks caps. The most heavily surveilled probably of one of the most surveilled countries on earth. Most every movement is monitored whether you are a local or a journalist on assignment. The 1st thing you notice is the extreme level of Police Presence on every intersection on every block there is often a multistory Police Building there are security checks everywhere and if you know that there are also surveillance cameras on every Street Corner get it out with facial Recognition Technology and then you very quickly get a feel the sense of being watched wherever you are. According to a report by the Foreign Correspondents Club of china 9 in every 10 foreign journalists who travel to last year spoke of interference from the or fortys some with detained by Police Others forced to delete data on their phones and other devices. Most all. 96 percent say they were visibly followed. But then there were the far graver dangers that face local sources. Last year journalist james palmer formerly based in china spoke about his personal experience trying to cover. All of my weaker sources of. Cash i dont talk to people because. I cannot reach them when we look at the lists of reasons theyve been given for people to be sent to concentration camps having had contact with foreigners is the single most dominant music. I have certainty of one of my sources being sent to a comp with the others i dont know whether they just cut off contact for their own safety or whether theyre actually imprisoned i stopped trying to reach weaker sources in the middle of last year because the risk to them was much greater than any possible benefit of talking to them. To respond china says there is no such thing as reeducation camps. A growing body of evidence suggests otherwise despite the straight jacket imposed on reporters inside. Coverage of the camps has surged over the past year. Now i cant find it. Across. Much of that recent reporting is the result of investigations done from a distance by researches using a method known as open source. Open source is shorthand for the tools and dates are available to virtually anyone with an Internet Connection a nose for Forensic Research and in the case of this story the ability to read mandarin open source journalism is not limited by geography and respects no borders which is why ive come here to stuttgart in southwest germany to speak to a researcher whos been investigating the camps almost 6000 kilometers away in sion john. So you are one of the 1st researchers to use open source methods to investigate these counts in changing what made you think that you would succeed using these tools where conventional journalists had failed the big advantage of this open Source Research is that you can uncover documents that speak of systematic policy where the government itself says we are doing this and every local government under us is also supposed to be doing to us and often times i was able to find this kind of document. Was this particular dog so this was the main suppose that early got from the asian for reeducation so when the chinese say we have a step the extremist cation sent us based on the law this is the document to refer to. Another document that i found talks about the goals of transformation through education and even very blatantly says transformation through education and chinese joey trying to cleanse us to brain from evil thoughts from the thoughts of religion thats a piece of evidence that speaks as much or more than 100. 00 newspaper articles because it basically proves that this is a systematic policy. The document that sends uncovered evidence of state policy but proving the camps had actually been built enough of them to hold hundreds of thousands of people required another open source tools satellite imagery. Thats where sean jang a Chinese Student based in vancouver came into the picture. Was. Yeah. I started my Research Last year when i heard reports that around 10 percent of the way given ching jiang had been detained or disappeared i used a few keywords to Search Online and found lots of information such as government tendinitis for camps to be built these documents contain the addresses of nearly 100. 00 counts so i searched on google earth and found the satellite images they looked very different from civilian facilities for example there were barbed wire fences the watch towers structures that youd expect in prisons i found more and more information and so published it on my blog. From a researcher and. Construction documents found by. Psychological. Children of parents taking to the camps a lot of mainstream medias coverage has built upon adrian or from work you see in the babies using government documents and hiring information. Show the extent to which the Security State has grown and changed. And sean has used satellite imagery to show the compass being built almost in real time the Financial Times weve also used satellite imagery to look at the location and size of the canvas weve also used research by indians and on the contracts that governments are using to buy new materials for the camps and i think the really important thing about these kinds of Research Collaborations is that because the data is open the journalist can also check what the research is looking at and if needed you know challenge whether the data theyre seeing is representative of the region or how the data is chosen. Communist Party Officials not usually known for their transparency gave open Source Research is a helping hand by leaving the evidence in plain sight now beijing is in damage limitation mode trying to delete documents before investigators in stuttgart bank and elsewhere in repose. And online game of cat and mouse over one of the worlds biggest stories. This year going to join us i post my findings on my blog and i include the links to the original documents but those links started showing up as invalid within a couple of weeks or even within a few days of me posting them i could see the Chinese Government was reading my blog and deleting the original sources the set of documents that disappeared basically describe the details of the camps the security features barbed wire watchtowers how big they are and what they cost a lot of that disappeared and so on we were a few versions starting to archive websites and spent almost entire days archiving hundreds of links but i think in some sense they put it too late we already had the information. By staying one step ahead of beijing open. Source research is on earth the evidence about the camps that journalists on the ground and she could not. But going up against a superpower magnifying scrutiny of an already notorious human rights record comes with consequences. All the more so in this case if you are chinese citizen. Really and since i started my research i felt a lot of pressure from the Chinese Government for example theyve contacted my family in china so in the near future i think i will avoid going back on this my tool this i think doing this work is worth it because there are so many we could people detained theyve lost contact with their family at least my research can raise awareness of this problem and help pressure the Chinese Government into finding a peaceful solution. Without the reporting thats taken place outside of the country chinese officials would have very little to answer for on the send jang story as we heard from. Our f a whig or beijing is now saying that the vast majority of the wiggers interned have since been freed their thoughts transformed however no evidence has been offered to back up those numbers so you can expect the journalists working out of washington and researchers combing the net for the truth in vancouver and strict guard well be Fact Checking that claim as they have so many others in the coverage of this story youve been watching a special edition of our program on sin jang and the media well see you next time here at the listening post. Rewind returns with a new series and brand new updates on the best of aljazeera missed documentaries take it. Easy on the little. Rewind continues with saving some seeing the line 10 years later the plot of a rich person. 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Iran says there isnt much time left to save the 2050 nuclear deal and it now has the ability to enrich uranium to a high level. Tehran has announced a major step in scaling back its commitments under the agreement it says it can increase enrichment metals beyond 20 percent only steps away from weapons grade uranium but that could be quickly reversed if europe delivers promised sanction relief dorsett de berry has more from tehran another step back from the Nuclear Agreement but a giant step forward for the Irans Nuclear program the spokesperson for irans Atomic Energy organization. Made the announcement earlier on this saturday saying that iran has already put in place advanced centrifuges in the towns Nuclear Facility now this means iran will be able to develop enrich uranium at a faster speed he said that iran was not interested in producing enrich uranium at a higher level for the time being because the country does not need it now all this means that iran is pushing the remaining signatories of the Nuclear Agreement of 2015 to uphold their and of the deal because they say since the United States withdrew from that agreement last year and imposed a series of sentients on iran the agreement is forced iran to reduce its commitment because the europeans have not upheld their end of the deal for the time being the iranian officials have given the europeans another 60 days to try and salvage what is left of this deal. And a u. S. Satellite image appears to show any rainy and tanker which was held by british authorities in gibraltar now anchored at a syrian port president Donald TrumpsNational Security advisor john bolton has tweeted the image which he says shows iran was lying about the best nation of the adrian daria one ratio 40 c. Is a vessel in july suspecting it of taking or to syria in breach of sanctions edge of brought to Court Releases ship after iran said it would not go to syria she had her tanzi has more from washington. For weeks there have been reports about how john bolton has been sidelined in various Foreign Policy negotiations and discussions in the administration he wasnt included in the talks with the taliban for example in the deliberations about those talks and just on friday there were several reports about how his relationship with mike compare the secretary of state is completely broken down that theres a report that the white house chief of staff has been trying to sideline john bolton for meetings about Foreign Policy meanwhile this week we had donald trump suggested maybe he could talk to the iranian president on the sidelines of the u. N. General assembly and then on friday the u. S. Defense secretary talked about the possibility of talks with iran while he was visiting visiting london which perhaps explains some of the the wording in this tweet that says we can talk but iran is not getting any sanctions relief until it stop snowing and spreading terror hes clearly not a happy man in other world news the number of People Killed as a result of Hurricane Dorian in the bahamas has risen to at least 43 but government Officials Say the final figure could be much higher as hundreds of people are still unaccounted for the devastation caused by the hurricane is being likened to a tsunami with entire neighborhoods flattened authorities are now focused on bringing in food Safe Drinking Water and shelter. Has the latest from freeport the main city on grand bahama island. Were standing in woods left of a family home in freeport grand bahama and i want to give you a sense of the destruction here that line that you can see on that wall back there thats how high the water got several meters and if you walk around this house you really get a sense of the power of this storm Hurricane Dorian remember a category 5 when gusts upwards of 350 Kilometers Per Hour a storm surge that came in several kilometers inland i mean the level of destruction here is just about as bad as hurricane damage gets everything that were seeing here in this debris is washing machines furniture everything and it want to show you how bad it is outside it gets even worse we have to be very careful where we walk in here theres still a lot of mud a lot of debris the structure of this home is actually not very good so we want to be very careful here but look at the senate look at look at the destruction out here just debris everywhere theres power lines theres telephone poles theres peoples entire livelihoods just lying out here in the street and the big concern right now apart from loss of life apart from the efforts of search and rescue crews looking for the people that are still missing are the shortages food water medicine all of this this crisis continues to unfold and it could still get worse without immediate action from the International Community meanwhile weather warnings are in place in canada as Hurricane Dorian makes its way up the u. S. Coast to nova scotia its expected to make landfall there on saturday as a category one hurricane at least 4 people were killed in the u. S. And more than 200000 without electricity many are still dealing with a impacts of flooding in north and South Carolina and is in charleston South Carolina with more. Well hurricane during has finally moved off the u. S. East coast after briefly making landfall in North Carolina and the outer banks there is taking a north east course that takes it away from all the states that were in danger for so many days remember the storms lots of for almost 2 weeks since it 1st formed about 200000 homes in north and South Carolina have lost power theyre expected to get it back fairly quickly because there was no damage to the infrastructure basically hurricane during after spending days crawling out the u. S. East coast and spared almost everybody there was no damage in florida not in georgia very minor damage here in South Carolina or North Carolina pretty much dodged a bullet as well so the Emergency Services working on restoring power there are still warnings in place in places like virginia but ultimately the storm is now headed to canada or nova scotia where its expected to hit landfall as a category one storm in about 2 days police in hong kong are restricting access to the citys airport on saturday in an attempt to stop a planned antigovernment protest their trains to the airport are not stopping at any suburban stations and only those with tickets are being allowed into the terminals protesters were planning to try to disrupt operations for the 3rd time in 2 months but they say those who enter the airport illegally could face up to 14 years in prison meanwhile a standoff has developed between protesters and police at the to transit station that speak to aljazeera is adrian brown whos there for a stage and tell us about whats happening leon. Well fully a short time ago there were several 100 protesters here facing off with the police they were taunting the police its a scene that weve seen played out so many times during the past 14 weeks which of course is when these protests began but that has now broken up think the crowd has largely dispersed the police are still on the ground some of the protesters have gone into the main Shopping Mall here in term show now it is a suburb its the 1st suburb you see when you arrive here at Hong Kong International airport and the reason why these protesters have been here today is in a sense a been thwarted in their effort to try to disrupt operations at Hong Kong International airport the reason why theyve been thwarted is that the police simply wouldnt let them get any nearer to the airport than the n. P. R. Station here also the police have set up roadblocks along the main expressway from Hong Kong Island to the airport theyve been stopping traffic basically the police have been flooding the area around the airport in much greater numbers than we saw even last week weve seen a real change actually foleys in the Police Tactics theyre being much more proactive now they are stopping people they suspect of being protesters which of course raises a number of Human Rights Concerns now those tactics will be supported by some sectors of Hong Kong Society but of course will be condemned by many others so very much a change in approach by the Hong Kong Police we do have another protest planned on sunday by people marching in support of a bill thats being proposed by legislators in the United States that could lead to effectively legislators here in hong kong being punished and sanctioned that march will happen as i say on sunday afternoon and its going to end up eventually if it gets full approval outside the u. S. Consulate adrian as you mentioned these protests are now into their 14th week why are they still going on why theyre still continuing despite the fact that the protesters main demand and that with the withdrawal of the extradition bell has been met. Yes thats right i think anywhere else in the world if that extradition bill had been you know shelved along earlier you know the protests wouldnt have followed but the problem is this the the protest groups dont have just you know one demand they withdraw all of that contentious extradition bill the house for others including demands for universal suffrage and of course the most important one of all is an investigation into what they see as Police Violence now unless that investigation happens i dont think these protests are going to end anytime soon there may be a bit smaller but theyre going to continue now if the chief executive of hong kong were to say ok we will have that investigation but only after the violence ends and perhaps that might change things but for the moment we are left with this stalemate we have a leaderless protest movement facing off in effect against a leaderless government thank you for that adrian brown live for us same hong kong still ahead on aljazeera is back in court it will be live in car to west the polls president class some tough questions to answer last. 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Hello again its good to have you back or seeing plenty of rain up here towards luzon in the philippines over the next few days manila though youre going to be just on the edge of that rain so we do expect to see more showers for you but its really going to be towards the north that we see the heaviest rain there of course we are seeing a lot more tropical activity across the region that is whats causing it and unfortunate as we go towards monday as well we do expect to see that rain lingering across the area down towards the south though looking quite nice across parts of java we do expect to see jakarta but the temperature of 32. 00 degrees there well we do have a big storm system thats finally pushing into the tasman sea but the winds are still going to continue anywhere from sydney down towards mobile and also into hobart as well heres a storm system making its way towards the east things will improve but its really going to be the winds here across the coast that we are going to be dealing with as we end the weekend melbourne at 13 sydney at 19 and brisbane at 24 degrees out here towards the west though the temperatures are on the way up when we see