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Says it has reason to believe is bound for syria that is a statement from mike pompei o the u. S. Secretary of state that ship was originally called the grace one it is now called the adrian darya one it was originally flagged as a panamanian vessel and now it is being flagged as an iranian vessel the British Government seized it in gibraltar and under suspicion that it would be taken to syria to offload oil that ship was released after iranian fish officials allegedly told gibraltar officials that they would not take that ship to syria but meanwhile that ship has changed his destination a few times and now the u. S. Secretary of state says it is bound for syria he says he hopes it will change course that threat comes within or else exactly what the u. S. Government might do at this stage we dont know. Well still ahead on aljazeera the opposition kids bunning despite a ban on flies by brazils president. And the websites that have allowed hackers to quietly access apple i phone. Hello a continuation of late summer temperatures in the low thirtys a few things to running around there overseas and satellite picture the big pool of plaid behind my head there which will make a difference in the next day or so but on saturday the green represents the sunda storm risk less than its been recently and is typically around the southern than the bit 3rd society so much of the plains beautiful are enjoying but a warm sunshine temps are quite high again in golden frogs typically low. Thirtys not spreads to the low countries to north germany again low thirtys they will be diggin that cooler of the pool kind of talking about its a cold front is heading south increasing wind tired and proper rain realm thunderstorms will be the fate of sunday as you can see at least for that part of europe that started this weve had some significant rain recently in morocco its on its way through our geria to tunisia of the next couple of data i think it could be quite substantial not so much sundry in the atmosphere in tins as proper rain at low level in for example tunisia in this a hell of a africa now is the time of year where you generate thunderstorms in the if you the highlands they repeat themselves as waves as they go across towards sun to go and not even turn eventually into her ricans. Youre watching aljazeera time to recap headlines now barely 2000000 people in the indian state of facing an uncertain future of the being excluded from the citizens register people whose names i will have to prove theyre not foreigners all face being detained and left stateless. People in hong kong are protesting for the 13th straight Weekend Police banned a major rally planned for saturday sizing security reasons several groups of value to define. The u. S. Secretary of state says he has reliable evidence in the rain you know is having syrian dance despite iran promising the one would stay away after being released from view this month. The leader of the fall of italys 5 Star Movement is warning its tentative Coalition Deal with the center Left Democratic Party could still fall apart. Political leaders have been meeting Prime Minister just said because to see if they can cobble together a government the previous one collapsed when they pulled the support of his right wing league party in an effort to trigger fresh elections in a 1st of all 2 of the countries in a very delicate phase we must get out of the Political Uncertainty triggered by the government crisis as soon as possible it will be a government for the good of the citizens to modernize the country to make our nation even more competitive in the International Context but also more just more supportive and more inclusive italys interior minister is blocking another migrant ship from docking at the italian island of lampedusa the crew of the journey says its facing a Health Emergency with a lack of water for the 34 people on board around 100 migrants were rescued off the coast of libya in a rubber dinghy on wednesday most vulnerable been allowed to go ashore. Greeces Prime Minister is calling a meeting of his top Security Officials to discuss an increase in refugee and migrant arrivals from turkey about 650 people came ashore on thursday they were transferred to the cravats morea camp on less boss island about half of them are children its the largest mass landing since 2016 when an aide to deal with turkey came to into effect supposed to restrict new arrivals to the island which has 5 are overcrowded camps volunteers are in a race against time to save animals trapped by fires in bolivia the out of control flames of destroyed one of the half 1000000 hectares of trouble called dr rainforest and the spreading southward towards part of why the sinew and reports from bolivia is to get out of Tropical Forest. A team of believe in veterinarians traveled to the Reserve Forest fires have been raging for weeks but their mission is to try to rescue wild animals which may have been injured. This was the scene the previous night the fire destroyed everything in its path. But if you animals were saved like this 2 day old wild pig whose mother died in the fire. The nature is extraordinary the way the allows these creatures to adapt in the face of danger and stress and find refuge in ormoc dillo with burnt eyes a hawk recovering from smoke inhalation along with a boa constrictor theyre all receiving treatment at the shelter. Today the rescue is hope to find more survivors riding in the direction of the huge black mushroom of smoke which indicates sometimes where theres a fire and we can tell because of the large number of butterflies that are flying away. This area has already burned to the ground and theres no sign of life. What is pokes around a serpent hole if its deep enough he says the snakes may have survived. If you can see this is apocalyptic theres nothing left these are part of the worlds lungs now its nature thats disappearing next it will be us this is no sign of firefighters here as you can see the wind here is absolutely fierce and its fanning the flames again in this direction the plan is to bring a super tanker helicopter here in the next couple of days to leave water for the animals that have survived but that helicopter is also needed to put out the fires to save human life. The fire remains out of control a thick layer of smoke and ash fills the air making the sun look red. Its too dangerous to stay and the 2 nerines are upset that they couldnt save a single animal i mean. I feel impotent because people are and seen how the amazon is burning how animals of burning alive and no one is doing anything. While much of the world focuses on the fires raging in the brazilian amazon the devastation here in neighboring bolivia is receiving far less attention. Even though assistance is desperately needed not. To put out the fires but to regenerate this fragile and diverse eco system so that what has survived will still be able to live here you see in human ill just see that in the Tropical Forest believe via. A brazilian delegation including the foreign minister and president. Or in the us to discuss aid for fighting the amazon fires also not an issue he rejected an offer of 20000000. 00 from the g 7 after a war of words with the french president and said either except the money if he can control how its spent or the amazon continues to burn this bibles and are putting a 60 day barrel on fires in the region that is a bow reports and part of a 0 rando near state j. D. Wilson otoh may have banned fire using amazonia in an attempt to discourage people from setting the forest in place. Despite the president s 60 day decree on friday when i was away from the city of port in the state or from the nia fire men struggle to contain the flames the anger nearest told us the situation is desperate. F. L. Often have a bad living room it is our life these days fighting one fire after the other we still dont know whether this is criminal or not but its happening all the time. Is located in the center west of brazil thousands of hectares of forest have already been destroyed its an example of how the agricultural frontier continues to grow in spite of regulations in place to protect it. The increase of deforestation under president has generated an International Outcry its difficult to know how this fire began whether it started naturally because of the time of the year or whether it was setup land in this part of the amazon rain forest is precious for agribusiness and in many cases fires like this one are started in order to take over the land. Land is like real state here and once deforested am burned it can be sold for thousands of dollars. Evil seal weighs a farmer he believes this fire was intentional he says hes worried that the world will stop purchasing brazilian beef to punish water natl. People are exaggerating or raise cattle or sell meat and milk and now because of the fires im going to stop selling it i want the criminals to suffer were here to work for a living. The government says theyre winning the fight against the fires and theres been a drop in the past days but inspired the latest effort the brazilian amazon continues to burn. Many say call to develop the region is to blame. The president says hes now willing to talk to leaders of the European Union that have condemned his environmental policy. A phone call with Angela Merkel is jupiter day she began with a certain tone but then went back to normal im ready to talk but some people accept the idea Mccraw Alessi apologizes about our sovereignty over the amazon then ill talk to him. International pressure is what has forced the president to take some type of action to prevent intentional fires in amazonia fires that until now nobody seems to be able to stop. And over the long run danya hurrican dorrian has strengthened to a category 4 storm which forecasters describe as exist dreamily dangerous its gaining momentum as it tracks towards the u. S. East coast with wind speeds of more than 180 kilometers an hour. It is that this things been getting stronger very consistently and completely in line with all the forecasting and so we anticipate this arriving somewhere in florida as a major hurricane could reach for a category 4 plus winds and you know that is a significant significant storm that will lead to really significant storm surge and the same cost on a j. Gray has more from cocoa beach in florida. But it looks like landfall at this point will be sometime late in the morning or early afternoon tuesday this storm has slowed down significantly and thats bad news that means its gathering strength its forming and getting a more solid eye and really could intensify significantly before it does make that turn and head toward the florida coast here we have seen lines around Grocery Stores lines at gas stations Home Improvement stores packed with people buying supplies generators were sold out for a short time here more have been moved in fuel is going to be an issue across the state according to the governor and right now there is a high tension for millions up and down the coast because we just dont know at this point where this storm is going to strike look at it has been a storm thats been very difficult to predict its wrapped up very quickly in the warm waters of the atlantic and a lot of people now worried about where dorian could go next no Evacuation Orders and the main reason according to 1st responders and officials is they dont know where to evacuate they dont know where the storm is going to make landfall what we do know is theyll likely open some shelters to people who dont feel safe at home can at least start to move in there what theyve told everyone else is pack what you will meet if youre going to have to leave if you feel like youre going to leave regardless of an Evacuation Order do it now go all the roads arent packed if youre going to wait for us to tell you to leave dont wait to pack once you get that word be ready to go and get out quickly. 2021 is the trial date set for the 5 men accused of the september 11th attacks on the United States suspected organized the check mohammed is charged with war crimes terrorism hijacking and the murders of navy 3000 people Karen Greenberg is to drag 2 of the center on National Security and for the middle school in the u. S. She says defendants lawyers will present evidence of torture in custody. What lies at the heart of this case is is it possible to bring this case with clean evidence evidence that was not derived from torture we all know from reading the 911. 00 Commission Report and many histories now im 911. 00 that there are many facts that are out there in public but what how the case can be. Delayed as weve seen or impeded or or justice but to these men by bringing the back of their torture up is very important one of the issue is the Death Penalty this is Death Penalty case and so there may be some further negotiation theres been a lot already about the Death Penalty to have these men are very ill one of at least one of them 2 of them are alleged at different times to be suffering from some kind of brain damage or psychological illness so that is also going to impede the trial. Google Security Experts have uncovered a hacking operate in the tug of apple i phones for at least 2 years they say the hike has used web sites to infect phones with Malicious Software that gave them access to photos messages user locations and other data apple was made aware of the problem in february and released the security update to fix it larry mcgee is chief executive of connect safely dot org an Internet Security firm he says its worrying the breach took so long to become public. Why didnt apple disclose the details at the time they did disclose that there was a Security Patch but we didnt know how bad it was in terms of how bad it was we dont know exactly how many people were affected but we do know that this particular malware was capable of taking over the phone which means it could read your email you can read your text message of your instagram private messages it could know your location it could do practically anything that you could do by having the phone in your hand in an unlocked way and it was able to transmit this data unencrypted so it was a very serious flaw apple gets credit for having fixed it very quickly but criticism for dot having disclose details until were finding out now not from apple but from google and the i phone is by no means invulnerable and we see that from this hack there isnt a lot you could do to guarantee that youre protected but the best thing you can do is to keep your operating system in your browser and other software and apps up to date to get those are vectors for security flaws in apple in this case did fix it in february the other thing you can do is to try to avoid going to unknown web sites but frankly thats very difficult because a lot of us are always looking around the web and dont always know where were going. To take you through the headlines in aljazeera now there are 2000000 people in the indian state of awesome all facing an uncertain future off to being excluded from a citizens register people whose names are on it will have to prove then all foreigners face being detained and left stateless people in hong kong are protesting for a 13th straight weekend of the span the major rally planned for saturday signs and security reasons several groups have found to defy it. U. S. Secretary of state mike pompei o says he has reliable evidence an iranian all tanker is heading to syria thats despite irans promising. One would stay away after it was released from earlier this month. And is strengthen to a category 4 storm with forecasters describing it as extremely dangerous its gaining momentum as it tracks towards the u. S. East coast its packing winds speeds of more than 180 kilometers an hour the one thing thats been pretty certain is that this things been getting stronger very consistently and completely in line with all the forecasting and so we anticipate this arriving somewhere in florida as a major hurricane could reach for a category 4 plus winds you know that is a significant significant storm that will lead to really significant storm surge. Early 2021 is the trial date set for the 5 men accused of the september 11th attacks in the United States suspected al qaeda organizers Khalid Shaikh mohammed is charged with war crimes terrorism hijacking and the murders of nearly 3000 people the accused have been in the Guantanamo Bay prison camp in cuba for 13 years google Security Experts have uncovered a hiking operation that targeted apple i phones for at least 2 years they say the hackers use web sites to infect phones with Malicious Software that gave them access to photos messages user locations and other data apple was made aware of the problem in february its inside story now. What guarantees will you give to the people will be attending the minimal workshop we listen im supposed to explain college eyes for someone who is also terrorizing we meet with global newsmakers and talk about the stories that matter. Allies become enemies in yemen war the United Arab Emirates accused of bombing saudi backed Government Troops to help separatists in the south can the coalition between the 2 gulf nations survive such a rift this is inside story. Hello and welcome to the show im sam is a that now is threatening the saudi amorality Coalition Fighting the war in yemen the 2 gulf allies are supposed to be on the same side but the u. A. E. Is accused of attacking the government that the coalition is trying to restore yemens internationally recognized president says u. S. Warplanes bombed Government Troops around aden separatist trained by the amorality taken over the Southern City we have a new government is urging saudi arabia and the United Nations to intervene but the u. A. E. Says it only tugs it what it calls terrorists Alexei Obrien has more. On. This is said to be the aftermath of immorality strikes in aden yemen internationally recognized government is furious the u. S. Bombed its positions. Allowing separatists to retake territory that lost to saudi backed Government Forces 24 hours. Both sides pulling in reinforcements to battle over a divided Southern City in a country fractured by years of war like at minimum loss of all aid and governorates are safe now were dealing with some pockets and terrorist hideouts which are sadly involved with what is called the legal government. Yemens government can damed the u. A. E. Bombing of its forces saying it had caused hundreds of deaths and injuries in a statement its Defense Ministry seders held the emirates responsible for what it called a blatant aggression and president albert rubber man so how to saudi arabia to intervene again separate us from the Southern Transitional council a pass at the saudi Iraqi Coalition thats fighting who the rebels less than 3 weeks ago they took over the city of aden the state of the saudi backed internationally recognized Yemeni Government. On wednesday Government Forces took the nearby coastal town of zinjibar before pushing into aden on thursday though they withdrew again president harry said it was to spare the city and its people blow out label of not only our situation is good in the troops morale is high were heading to be on the subway and we will free every inch of the southern territory the violence has exposed an apparent rift in the saudi u. A. E. Coalition each country backing opposing sides in southern yemen which was a separate country until 990 the saudis and their artists are divided on this issues because for this from a saudi perspective what they had always wanted is to ensure that they who are not the threat that can operate across the border and launch attacks what its rocket attacks or or drone attacks into saudi arabia what the United Arab Emirates wants to do instead of course is to establish an independent state and these 2 objectives to do not align with the pm any government asked for the United Nations to meet on the iraqi strikes 60000 people have left the city batanes of thousands remain in harms way as the fighting intensifies alexia brian al jazeera. Bring in our panel into the show now joining us from new york city a hug. Absalom man director of the office of Foreign Affairs for the Southern Transitional council in new york city from our man has an bharati professor of International Relations at the university of jordan and from london also on skype is Elizabeth Kendal Senior Research fellow at Pembroke College at the university of oxford welcome to all of you in the show let me start with elizabeth in the u. K. Is the coalition now falling apart its difficult how it can be perceived as not falling apart at this point i think the latest airstrikes by the United Arab Emirates are stepped change in the clashes in the south and may now be time to start calling them a war because there are only one of 3 scenarios that could have happened either the u. A. E. Did not consult saudi about these strikes and that means the coalition is falling apart or the u. A. E. Did consult saudi and saudi gave it the go ahead which means that saudi and the Yemeni Government a falling apart and assert a possibility is that the u. A. E. Consulted saudi and saudi refused in which case the coalition is falling apart so you know youre a may have acted unilaterally but even if it didnt it means the coalition is falling apart or it were lizabeth is open for us i guess 3 beautifully summed up scenarios there has been which one do you think its most is most likely were the saudis on board with this or card out of this latest action. All i think you know from the get go the saudis have a different agenda and yemen and obviously the saudis are not on board but at the same time i think is blackmailing saudi arabia because they know that riyadh needs them in their coalition for their appearance of having a coalition and i think that think United Arab Emirates works unilaterally in order to reinforce its whatever they have in 70 m. And they want to affect the kind of a separation in yemen and they find in the. Transitional council as a tool to further the interest in yemen and that is obvious so im not saying that the area is an board like it agrees on everything but probably doesnt have what it takes to say no to the 2 i would have right now and i made that kind of International Crisis you know especially the do Strategic Development with you know if thats the if thats ok let me jump in hunston i would have been more that if if that if thats the case what does that mean ultimately in terms of the saudi coordination will will the u. A. E. Be ejected from this coalition as the how the government one point was calling for all the saudis have to look the other way and try and keep on board. I think for the time being theres no correlation that we talk about collection but in the current that we knew at the very beginning there was the one that fighting the hoti in the fighting the hoti the is fighting its own war. For their own interests. So we talk about the ecology in the one that we know the cell we delayed coalition or the out of college it is no longer there now its only United Arab Emirates and saudi arabia and we can see now is a kind of a clash between their own interests now when the saudi arabia is going to exit emirates i dont know but i think its an ultimate. As you know area that we probably see playing out soon all right lets we could bring in a huddle of your from of course the Southern Transitional council whats known as the s. T. C. Its the action by Southern Forces which youre affiliated with which has brought us to this point in yemen do you agree that you are responsible now for the collapse of this coalition thats been fighting supposedly on the same side against the who sees. No actually i completely disagree with the introduction i disagree with the guess bickers regarding the fall of the call ation this is a collaborative. Coalition unit that goes through a operation or operates from an operation room. Through a rigorous process before approving any specific detailed airstrikes so the u. A. E. And the. Saudi arabia are. They are working together on every front oh but there it is with the anti who at the front or the anti extremist extremism front ok but let me just as well now to explain this to me according to what youre describing them the saudis would have known that the u. A. E. Is about to launch and strikes against kerry what the u. S. Is calling terrorists but in fact what were hearing from the heavy government is these are strikes on the Yemeni Government if thats the case at all saying saudi arabia has approved or is in line with an strikes on the very government is hosting in riyadh that doesnt a lot of sense doesnt. Well its a little more complicated than that for over the past 4 years or for 4 years plus the Saudi Led Coalition has been working. Effortless with. Working. 2 to. Fight the anti to fight the ots to fight extremism and fortunately the legitimate government is actually incorporating some of these extremist factions extremists or the radicals to the a slap already into the legitimate government so the. Reactivating what would they have the any government is backpedaling by. After after raid these counterterrorism in south yemen specifically ok im actually not sorry to interrupt you again how theyre i really want to distill what youre bringing to the show this plan what it sounds like youre saying right now is the sun s. T. C. The saudis and the immoralities are lining up against the Yemeni Government is that what youre telling viewers of this show be called a mini golf that includes as you say a stream ists. That is incorrect we are not against the government as you have just said the injected with your name is from the islam party so so correct where were fighting the extremism that has been injected or whether they have hijacked the Yemeni Government unfortunately while everybody was clued in the Saudi Led Coalition the s. T. C. Saddam forces have been fighting extremism the internationally recognized government has really regrouped end quote paraded them into their units where that is not going to be accepted so fighting extremism whether they are part of the Yemeni Government is a Regional Security and that is let me all know how i or let me bring elizabeth back into it however you slice it and dice it listening to what and how to saying that it does sound like there is conflict as you start out by saying within the coalition at this point with everyone pointing to the other one is harvesting the extremists. Yes there clearly is conflict and i dont think it holds water to say that everyones on board with this and that simply fighting extremism is a very serious air strikes many many many people were killed and they were from the Government Forces i think this highlights a problem of the whole rhetoric on the war on terror that was coined obviously initially by the United States because it provides cover for what is ultimately a political agenda now its true that there has been an uptick in terrorist violence in yemen in august weve had for example more than double the Monthly Average of attacks by alqaeda and in fact if you look at whom theyve been targeting then the targeting has been very strongly against the Southern Forces but nonetheless i think one does need to remain skeptical for example and shabwah that been no terrorist attacks at all by either isis or outsider so far this year so to claim that once fighting terrorism and sharp war and not just political opposition i think doesnt hold water or lets bring hasim into the discussion is this really about the u. A. E. Plans as the who these allege and many others actually in yemen to separate the south and the north of yemen once again so that if they draw down those troops they still have a proxy who represent their interests the south. I i think it boils down to one thing that the United Arab Emirates one interest and its to do mean to protect and support the secessionists and to talk about extremism as a kind of pretext we know that islam is Muslim Brotherhood and its not classified as extremist by anyone other than the United Arab Emirates and the United Arab Emirates have actually classified qatar as an extremist a so do you believe that we dont of course when the president had to comes in public and condemn the United Arab Emirates he is not part of the party he is not part of those extremists as he said he represents the legitimacy he represent the probably the address for the money that the United Arab Emirates committed itself to bring him back to the sinai and now what happened in the past the United Arab Emirates even prevented him from visiting god and so with this is a well known story that the United Arab Emirates have its own ok with home family and kids to do what i know is to divide in the south to break away from hunters for their own economic interests yes of course i think this is the ultimate for the United Arab Emirates and why would that be doesnt care or even doesnt give attention to the how with the. Why because for economic reasons and because they want to then for dubai force etc so we know this is a well known story and so by dividing yemen to 2 yemen it would be easier for them to control it and to control this and this has been part of the whole right let me let me bring on harder into this again a divide the vienna yemen is ultimately where the resurgence of the s. T. C. Forces s. T. C. Forces are taking the country how do you respond to that. Well 1st of all lets see how did the s. T. C. Come about where these calls have came out how long have these calls been on on the ground yes the sea we got to go back track a little after 94 this was an all out occupation 2007 came out of Southern Movement after to end 2015 there was a sudden resistance to Southern Resistance gave birth to the Southern Forces and so so the s. T. C. Came about these separatists calls or the secessionists calls have been for over 2 decades this is not a recent through all but what you ate my 10 u. S. Surgeon its on so the u. A. E. Right so thing that events id like you to address the concern that ultimately the country be divided and one in which someone forces really are a front for you even interest there is that allegation the hudson pointed out in which the u. A. E. Wants to maintain its interests in some of the ports of yemen to clean the toilets thats that is incorrect that is incorrect because the Southern Transitional council has been very efficient working directly with the Saudi Led Coalition as far as the. Anti extremism fronts and the anti or with the fronts now these are both Regional Security matters these are not for south yemen alone this is not this is also for north yemen and for the entire region theres over 25000. 00 southern troops in the northern provinces or governorates that are fighting inside areas and other governor governor its this is not just because they Saudi Led Coalition. Couldnt find any genuine resistance on the ground besides the southern the Southern Forces this is what activated the entire court trying to kill our transiting in. There are forces or i can see live versus shaking head i think you want to get in on this go ahead i think theres a lot of truth to what the s. T. C. Spokesman says in terms of long term grievances that go back decades but these were reactivated by the formation of the Southern Transition council which was backed by the United Arab Emirates and we can see where this is heading its not good enough to say that the southerners support the coalition when they are calling back their troops from the very fronts that were just mentioned in the north of yemen to say come and defend us stop fighting the has come and defend us against the northern us even yesterday there was a tweet by the deputy of the Southern Transitional council an even break where he mentioned all 7 if you include the culture governorates of the south and said we will not give an inch now that doesnt sound Like Coalition talk that sounds like us to purchase torn lizabeth if we connect the dots a little bit we have the announcement the u. A. E. You made the announcement was drawing down its troops kind of around the same time we had all those attacks going on u. A. E. And saudi Oil Interests in the gulf which were blamed on iran. And now we have this battle going on. In aden if you connect the dots do you read through this the u. A. E. Sending a message that he wants perhaps to be closer or not so much at least in conflict with iranian interests and just wants to carve out some interest for itself in the south of of yemen i think we should see this in the broader context which is that the United Arab Emirates has now for several years been recruiting troops across the south of yemen that were not directly answerable to the Yemeni Government of president heady so its very clear that there was some purpose to these troops that may have extended beyond fighting terrorism after all the number of terrorist attacks in chaper as i mentioned it is very few and in fact when the major Counterterrorism Operations began there that only been one that year so far so it was less than one percent but the resources of yemen and of shop were are heavily based in oil and gas and so its very difficult not to see an ultimate commercial and political agenda behind this whilst saudi arabia been relatively silent on this so far do you think. And is it just down to the fact that while they you know that they want to try and keep up with nabil on board in the coalition. What i think this is the only thing that i can think of right now because we know that handle the break be a deputy of the c. P. C. Actually threaten saudi arabia and he reminded them that the whole of the hotels have been fighting them for 4 years and he and his forces can do the same so by claiming that. This council is working in harmony with saudi arabia i think this is not substantiated with any any hard evidence because the famous coming from the council is actually under country or i dont know about how you know if the jews didnt really expect any ground here and now an admission over the events going on in aden and the apparent crumbling of this coalition. Well unfortunately the United Nations has been doing nothing other than you know expressing its concerns about what is happening but on the ground i think the United Arab Emirate is destroying this part and i den and its going to decide matters in probably in days to come but does it mean that in america would would win the war in yemen the american would actually be defeated at the end of the day because the yemeni people would rise up against it and now we can witness something new that for the 1st time that we see that the yemenis themselves are saying that there will be is and you could find for so weve never hear such a thing before and i think this is a new development and the level of the conscious of the people and this cat could materialize to Different Things or translate into a probably a kind of action that would hurt united i want to take that point and that in sounds exactly like in the saudis actually if i may oh how the the calls from some yemenis to see the u. A. E. Is an Occupying Force whats your take on that as the s. T. C. Well thats the International Recognized government is trying to push all their blame all their faults all failures onto someone else as usual at a minute or your coalition with them didnt you and your. Interests so which is. The Southern Transitional council is definitely working with the saudi led Coalition Fighting extremism and fighting. To be supporting the had the government do you alternately want behind the government to rule over yemen or not. They had a government is being supported by the Saudi Led Coalition but you have to understand also that they had a government is incompetent it is has failed on the economic level on the basic Services Level and deliberated areas where there is no not all by any services they have not been able to they have not they have failed also militarily they have related 100 year floods and soaps in my favor if you let me just finish this point the 2 engine 50000 troops in met it there have not moved. Less than an hour drive away or 50 kilometers but have been very more when it came to the southern so ok i understand your concerns my place liberated very briefly we want to see our photos the s. T. C. Want to see the how to government rule over yemen or not well the s. T. C. And the southern people actually stands by the popular will thats where it gains its strength to southern people have rights this is not were not subhuman or Southern Arizona we went 60 faces and this is a human right for us we dont have to really answer that question well leave it to the views to draw whatever conclusion from that if i can give the last 6 seconds to elizabeth are we seeing a situation emerge elizabeth where perhaps the who these and how these have increasingly something in common i think its very difficult for us to see anyone as having anything in common in yemen because the loyalties are safe lou it what is true there is i think the soften secessionist course has altered it and its not going to be feasible to have their entire withdrawal before peace talks can take place and jetta so something needs to change in the head a government or im afraid we are out of time so lets thank our guests its been a really good discussion ill hold them soloman hasan but ari and Elizabeth Kendall. 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India excludes nearly 2000000 people from a citizens list and raising fears of statelessness. Sami say that this is al jazeera live from the also coming out tens of thousands marching in hong kong in defiance of the Police Arrests of campaigners. The u. S. Says and rein in all is heading towards syria despite assurances it would. Be kind to me is actually smoke im lucy inulin in the reserve in bolivia where out of control forest fires are destroying all the wildlife in their path. Nearly 2000000 people in the indian state of us facing an uncertain future after being excluded from a citizens register the National Register of citizens was created in 1951 to determine who came to the state before neighboring bangladesh declared independence from pakistan its being updated for the 1st time and there are concerns about who is being excluded could be left stateless. Critics say the ruling hindu nationalist b j p is use the citizenship issue to target the Muslim Community who make up a 3rd of us arms population india says the process is needed to identify illegal bangladeshi migrant. Reports from go towards. More than 1900000 people have been left out of asylums updater finally richest of citizens that means they will now have to appeal to foreigners tribunals with evidence to prove that they are indian the decision on citizenship will be decided by foreigners tribunals the of course have the right to appeal it high court and Supreme Court but it is expected to be a long Legal Process the government says about 200. 00 foreigners tribe you know will start operating the coming few days and that number could increase to up to 1000. 00 additional staff have also been appointed there are also promising legal aid for vulnerable and marginalized communities of different villages and towns office but its a mammoth process and this n. R. C. List seems to be just the beginning of what is likely to be a long drawn out Legal Process deciding citizenship of these more than 1900000000 people senior b. G. P. Minister ahead of the draft ahead of the list being published has already voiced concerns about the fate of genuine citizens who might be left out and they are saying that they want to make sure that indians are not left out of the final list and they have also promised support to all these people who might appear in foreigners tribunals Amnesty International meanwhile has come up with a statement of voicing concerns about reports about decisions of foreigners tribunals that they have heard are. Biased as well as discriminatory. Tens of thousands of protesters are out on the streets of hong kong in defiance of the police theyve been marching along main roads the crowds now its. Taking back several kilometers blocking Traffic Police said rejected an application for a mass rally size in security reasons but it hasnt deterred the growing crowd several high profile activists and politicians have been arrested in the past couple of days this is the 13th straight weekend of mass protests in hong kong. Prodemocracy politician claudia mo says hong kong protest is a sending a clear message to the government. Come from people like telling her that she cannot simply wish for our freedoms this is a sad state to come home and its not that if you could be telling the truth the police force that some people would not allow this to just go about. Something whats happening in the streets and that we need to what happens what we need to excuse me i mean since when how much freedom of movement would be restricted so the message is very clear if you want to put some come under martial law or whatever emergency shes meet moods. Go ahead but then we have we stayed the fire with you. Sarah clarke joins us now from hong kong so are all these protests all gatherings illegal then. 7 7 think of. What it is i mean by city as you mentioned on friday the police abandoned what was meant to be a mass rally organized by the civil human rights front and thats your organization thats been hosting the 1700000 the 2000000 the 1000000 people marched up the last few weekends now they decide to go ahead and push ahead with an appeal in the court if tonight puts it no you cant go ahead so that rally was banned and instead today i understand that here in hong kong respect the people have instead gathered at whats been the label and really just simply anything beyond 30 people in an assembly it requires Police Permission to go ahead and it was not from place commissioned a given site instead theyve already been the spark that they spent and now much to make just one child and that you know right. It was childish the idea. To me that so. Many. That we dont like that particular area. What makes president sunsetting with a weapon which is Government House and around chinese the i was like this rat is going to hit the. Woods begs the question what posture doesnt look like the police and authorities will take towards. The guys if you think the Police Presence is here and. My son would not move my tents up times here and despite the arrests of recent years time long long the high profile arrests including sexual magnus child and even free like you know the members of the list of this crisis im not going to try and tomorrow and sunday here in hong kong if the if its more tests to go ahead that could be once again i could impact the economy here and come home but the i know deficiency if would have said that i. 6 needed to restrict landings and takeoffs as well as grounding some flight side of the protests are continuing on despite any authority or police into into. The place attempts to stop. Or thanks so much sarah clarke that now joshua wong says arrests will not stop protesters from fighting for democracy. Yesterday i was arrested with 3 trudges including organizing inciting and participating of price assembly schumanns ago i was released from prison and soon later on being arrested again but we still continue our fight and the most important thing is even i need to face the trials soon in the next there months with you a person is on our course on reelection stop produce brutality and the government must company withdraw the bill and the only way out is listening to the wants of people and home coas on one staff democracy their short term goal is to withdraw the extradition bill and a long term goal is to have free election went election referee election become true in hong kong which means that hong kong rests finally elected our own government and which means that we can be the run rule hong kong instead of beijing be the one man a plaything on hong kong People Freedom and our future the us secretary of state says he has reliable evidence in the rain and all tank is heading to syria despite iran promising it wouldnt be adrian w one has been sailing around the mediterranean since it was released from the british territory of gibraltar on twitter my pump i have says foreign minister zarif guarantee to the u. K. That the Iranian Revolutionary guard coal Oil Tanker Grace one stroke adrian dadi one would not head to syria we have reliable information that the tank is on the way and headed to top to syria i hope it changes course it was a big mistake to trust the tories john hendren has more from washington d. C. The United States Treasury Department has increased its Enforcement Actions against the government of iran specifically and oil vessel that has recently left the port of gibraltar that the u. S. Says it has reason to believe is bound for syria that is a statement from mike pompei oh the u. S. Secretary of state that ship was originally called the grey swan it is now called the adrian darya one it was originally flagged as a panamanian vessel and now it is being flagged as an iranian vessel the British Government seized it in gibraltar and under suspicion that it would be taken to syria to offload oil that ship was released after iranian fish officials allegedly told gibraltar officials that they would not take that ship to syria but meanwhile that ship has changed his destination a few times and now the u. S. Secretary of state says it is bound for syria he says he hopes it will change course that threat comes within or else exactly what the u. S. Government might do at this stage we dont know. Well russia says its Syrian Government allies are observing a cease fire in rebel held province it went into effect on saturday morning the army backed by russian air power has been waging a crushing offensive there for months on friday syrian civilians rushed towards the border with turkey demanding a complete end to the fighting Bernard Smith reports from. This was a desperate dash for the Turkish Border by syrians hemmed in to the shrinking corner of their country still in the control of fighters. But turkey isnt letting any more syrians in. You do not want to create chaos we just want to express the oppression we feel we just want them to look at our situation that this is a warning that we are coming to turkey and europe if turkey does nothing an increase in shelling and bombing of it led by the russian backed forces of the Syrian Regime has according to the u. N. Pushed up to a 1000000 syrians towards turkey they have no shelter food or sanitation but from a saturday morning the russians say the offensive will stop for now this is not the 1st ceasefire and im afraid not the losses for all the previous years for feet was the seam so the terrorists immediately brought this is for i hold that this one will last but. Given the situation that that is there but lets hope lets keep our fingers crossed. Russia has more special forces on the ground now in syria according to western intelligence sources thats helped assads forces make recent territorial gains in ad lib it shows the extent regime is regaining control is really exists in so for an hour and ultimately its the final nail in the coffin of opposition groups who ultimately lost the war they lost to assad with his russian iranian and his plan backed forces turkeys president says that it eerie orating environment in the north of syria is a humanitarian crisis. And also says that the situation in a blip is not